This Nebula deck is BUSTED. For real, the data is insane.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ค. 2024
- The core of this list has been gaining momentum for a little while, and although it goes by many names like "OnlyStats.com" or "Jeff the Baby Land Shark", it appears to have gotten even better with the addition of Nebula as a powerful 1-cost card to fill in its early turns.
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Power Estimate: So far this deck looks to be the best deck in Marvel Snap by a fairly large margin. It has fantastic winrates and cube rates, and unless the meta somehow shifts against it, it should prove to be an incredibly reliable way to climb.
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Marvel Snap | This Nebula deck is BUSTED. For real, the data is insane. - เกม
ill be working hard on getting that winrate lower
Nebula absolutely going to get nerfed once they cannot sell her for $10 next month
Yes
This is becoming really annoying they keep releasing season pass cards and then nerfing them why don't they actually play test their game before releasing something
@@williammclean6594 yeah and they tell us it's not a pay to win game... I'm 4700 but don't have a third of this deck. It's annoyingly frustrating
@@williammclean6594 They do play test but it's to a small pool of people. Every game in existence play tests to a smaller pool which is why a lot of broken stuff or bugs are only found at release hence the need for beta testing but it's no possible for game patches
She’s so cracked
I think 65% winrate is a bit telling about the game card acquisition rate. Like if a deck is really good in HS, it wil get 55-58% win rate at most, mainly because if it is that good it will be popular and everyone will be playing it, therefore it will basically just be losing to itself half the time in mirror match, the difference will be in match up against different decks that isnt as good.
The fact that this deck can get to 65% means that not everyone is playing this deck, which could be interpret here as not everyone has the card necessary to craft this deck. With such a large sample size, I think when it comes to nerf this is something the dev has to consider as the game is systematically unbalanced, favouring those with full collection of the newest cards.
100% agreed
One thing to remember is this game has a lot of bots so all deck winrates will be higher than HS.
A lot of winning in this game is surprising people. So brand new decks that do well will always have high win rates because people aren’t used to seeing the cards played together. There’s no reason to overreact. It’s only 1500 games, which actually isn’t a lot. I highly doubt when it’s hit 10k plays that it stays a 65% win rate.
I mean HS has unironically had some near 70% win rate decks this past year or so.
@@ARavingLobster Which deck? Literally no deck with a sample size 1000 has EVER gotten above 60%.
Like you can have streamers getting 80-100% win rate, thats normal. Individual stats aren't representative of the larger distribution though and the bad players average out the good and all are averaged out by the average players.
You can have a deck of win rate 100% if the sample size is 1. A deck of win rate 70% with sample size 10. 100 games is still not enough to get an accurate assessment of the deck usually. it is often in the 1000s that you get a correct distribution. This is just statistics
Stature was in my shop, so I decided to pick her up before the reset. Decks feels powerful and has a good flow. Still getting the hand of the deck, but when it works, it works well.
What I love about it… it has all three of my favorite types of decks. Hawk, discard, and move. It’s a little of all
Yesss
Ironically this is basically a Sera tempo deck, with Zabu functioning as Sera. So I guess, Zabu tempo ?
So I've been running something similar, but since I don't have Jeff I cut him and Miles and instead run a Wave/She-Hulk package. Its been REALLY good, and Wave turn 3, into a turn 4 Blackbolt has been suuuuper solid too at hitting important opponent cards (since they all cost 4 for that turn). I've only got 30 games played with it so far, but i'm at like a 79% winrate right now on Untapped.
Nice! The anti-Wave technology goes against opponents playing it, too. I sniped a Death and She-Hulk on 5, playing into Kamar-Taj, earlier. That felt good. lol
This is very good. I have only played 5 games with it and have already won all 5 though. Thank you for the suggestion!
Was hoping you'd have our game on this video; had the Elektra in hand all game but the Nebula to Negative Zone was too awkward to play into. 😂
I do! It's at 5:59. Good game, it was a close one!
@@RegisKillbin Watched it on my bus ride home, well fought. Put the deck from this video together, except I have to run Nightcrawler since I don't have Jeff yet. 🔥
unrelated to the deck, but in the intro, I noticed your Snowguard and realized that I have a more upgraded Snowguard on a F2P account, which is kinda funny to me. (reserves gave me this amazing card, it's actually fun to play though)
great video!
I have no chance of getting both blackbolt and stature before high evolutionary comes out, but I just crafted darkhawk and Zabu :(
i feel like with this deck, every time you think you’re gonna lose you just win
This is so true! And every time I'm confident I have a win, I lose. But that's mainly bc I'm pretty bad at piloting it lol
@@JulianAmaro100 biggest thing for me with the deck is to wait until turn 5 to move jeff, and to save darkhawk for turn 6 if you can. this allows you to play stature, miles, darkhawk, and potentially another low cost card on the final turn assuming you played black bolt on 5, i usually just snap if i have that condition (zabu being on the board helps significantly as well)
I'm really liking moongirl in here. Initially I cut enchantress for her but I'm wondering if enchantress is more useful than shang chi atm 🤔
Man I wish I had Jeff...such a cool card, and so versatile.
Same. But I’ll wait til he hits 3k tokens.
Yeah same i would love it in my prof x storm control deck.
I gotta catch you live sometime!
what supplements card can I put in if I have all of the cards but Jeff?
Nebula seems really good, so I think a lot of decks will start working in Killmongers. Maybe Armor will make her way into this deck? She also protects Darkhawk. I don't know what you'd take out though.
jeff
That's what I did, I don't have Jeff and run Armor instead and it feels strong.
jeff because we definitely have that card but just dont wanna play him
@@zladsmusic8953 Exactly, that's where my Jeff would go *if I had one*!
9:15 yoo thats me getting destroyed 😄
i tried winning 2 lanes thinking theres no way you can put that much power in
GG dude, super close one!
It's all because of Jeff. That card wins locations that other cards can't ever reach like Prof X. Now that everyone is starting to implement Jeff people will notice it.
Once again a deck that only the 1% of marvel snap can play. This is why I prefer cozy snap for deck recommends because it's shit I own/can play
5:57 lol thats a funny thing to say. I agree it was a pretty smart game
Alright but what if I don’t have stature or jeff
Went a little crazy with the thumbnail
"Nebula mid always work" famous last word before murderworld show itself 😂
20:02 hilarious LOL baller swing
Don't have Jeff, what would be the best substitute for him?
I think Nightcrawler, and Cloak weirdly, are both solid options.
Reminds me of Shaman Galakrond. Had a 65% win rate and then got nerfed in to oblivion. Play it while you can. Rock slide and a few other cards are getting the nerf hammer
What can I replace Jeff with?
oof thath thumbnail is CRAZY
I too have a crush on Statula. And regular Nebula. And Stature. And...
@@RegisKillbin regis hope ms killbin doesn’t get jealous, or you in trouble for playing too hard (although including more women in thumbnails was her idea a while back right?)
I played this deck minus Jeff and Nebula for about a week or so before season rollover and it was already cracked even then.
Replacement for stature ?
Your face when you realized the last game was a bot was priceless
After -15 ranks this season finally i need a winning deck.
I started playing this last minus Nebula plus Nightcrawler after someone posted on Reddit that it got them Infinite 2 seasons in a row. It’s crazy that this is the same exact list but someone just slotted Neb in😂 Kinda disappointed that it isn’t as off-meta as I was hoping
If it got someone to infinite multiple tiems it isnt likely going to be off-meta unless they played 1000 hours that season.
@@IncubiAkster Yeah but Stature and Black Bolt have never really been meta so
Meta is not defined by quality of deck is defined by how much it is played, so a god-deck may still be an off-meta Deck because not enough people thought about it and it's not shared enough for others to notice it.
12:14 Nebula on New York better here I think instead of mid since most don’t want to play into New York
30:55 jebotted
You should try out the one with moongirl and quinjett, keep seeing videos on it, nebula may be broken...
Played this deck a lot today and ended up cutting Miles and Polaris. They don't actually fit the curve correctly very often. I think another 2 drop for early consistency and turn 6 vomit is better than Polaris. I replaced Miles with Crossbones, surprisingly. His condition is pretty easy to fulfill lane-stacking with Jeff, distracting with Nebula, and costs 3 with Zabu. 8 power is nice against all the Shang Chi. I think Crossbones is better than Miles in this deck.
So which 2 drop?
It's flexible. I just hit infinite with Armor in that slot. I also tried Maria Hill for a while (underrated curve filler card) and she was pretty good too.
The game against sera miracle style show that nebula isn't that broken, is just hyped asf.
Also, kitty pride is the best.
I tried this the other day and was a little underwhelmed, I think the stats are inflated by a few people in massively high bot MMR right? I know of a few uberhigh MMR players are touting it.
Data I sampled was from rank 70-99, so anyone with inflated MMR pushing through Infinite would have very little data contributing to the sample. A vast majority of their games would be at 100+, by they very nature that they would rocket through 70-99 in very few games if farming bots.
@@RegisKillbin gotcha! Guess I should revisit the list lol. I think I like lamb's Shuri addition, it felt like I was getting out muscled pretty easily in a lot of games
For some reason, I had better luck with Spiderman over Shang Chi when testing both.
I've been playing this deck since the nebula release and, yeah, it's bananas.
What's your CL? I'm 4750 in the this pay to win game but don't have a third of this deck. That's the real bananas
@@franciscorodrigues3827 I've just got to collection level 2,000 about 200+ hours played and got my first infinite last season. It's doable.
@@franciscorodrigues3827 Pay2Win?? Naw. The RNG is just unfair at times! Hopefully you end up getting the card doe!
@@Amanojaku8 I've also hit infinite multiple times but I have to struggle more because I don't own game changing overpowered cards
@@westlipid They make the season pass cards overpowered on purpose (maybe except nimrod) and they get nerfed. It's a strategy to sell more but it's annoying that they're always balancing cards because they regret and they're never able to foresee how strong some cards are when released
If only i could play it but all those series 4/5 cards...
why do you use base cards and not varients?
I imagine it's for ease of content for viewers to immediately recognize every card.
someone should do a nebula sandman deck
I already do run her in my doom deck with elektro odin sandman and tiger as my main cards. It's really strong and makes it really easy to force them into one lane while I put power everywhere.
Enjoying this deck so far at 5-0. Wanna run something a little different than my sera control I took to 112 last season. Thanks for the highlight man! Love your content
What else do you run in that
@@Jim26D nebula(use to be nova may put nova back tbh) hit monkey mojo scarlet witch cloak( mainly cause hood stats to put down I also used sentinel for curve) mysterio bishop killmonger Polaris Shang chi enchantress and sera
@@banksybum317 have not tried out hit monkey yet, looks fun, im missing mysterio
@@Jim26D ok yeah mysterio is a must have for hit monkey and bishop in this deck imo. Takes a little to fully understand all the right plays of the deck but it’s a great contender against almost everything. Fun to mess with galactus decks with Polaris or enchantress their knull when they think they’ve got a clear w. Good luck on ladder man’
@@banksybum317 I don't have beast either, but have the rest
I play a version of this with Shuri and you do get pretty big turn 6 pop offs. 20 power on turn 6 is kinda sweet.
fine, i guess i’ll buy stature 🤣
I'm not sure why this deck has such a high win rate, it doesn't feel that strong on paper, nor in your gameplay. I mean you took the right decisions most of the time, but you could have lost those games as well (they were really close games), so nothing as powerful as the old Zabu Darhawk or Shuri decks that were no brainer winners. But definitely an interesting deck to see in action.
Wish I had jeff
Named the good cards nebula deck "Black Hawk Down"... Anyone else name theirs something different?
Yeah... Kitty Is just his biggest counter so...
Imagine my dismay when I spent my monthly unlock on Black Bolt to enable the Stature I got from a reserve, only for Stature decks to blow up on TH-cam. lol
Eh, it's alright, mine is pretty different.
I really hate that Jeff is getting so much play...I don't want to spend tokens on him lol.
Seems like the Snap meta is bad? I'm not too interested in playing again, but then again I'm early pool 3. So, not much incentive anyway.
The meta's been pretty great since the latest patch.
@@PenitusVox I've heard this about the meta. Maybe I'll give it another chance as I haven't really enagaged since the last patch. Thanks.
@@cylonsteve2511 the meta is currently the best it’s been. I see more variety of decks than I’ve ever seen previously.
Don't tell anyone I've been playing miles and stature for ages 😭😭😭😭
jeff replacement?
Not Murderworld mid hahaha
Yeah man. I’m not sure if you are playing the same deck as me yet. But the stature deck I am playing, I have been winning 19 of 20
Yeah. It’s the same deck
Can you share your deck?
@@RB-jf5ww thank you! Y’all are playing the same deck as Regis?
@@danh27 yeah. Didn’t know it when he started the video. But I have been KILLING it with that. I have now won 56 of 67 games
@@RB-jf5ww awesome! Hope you hit Infinite ♾️
Can’t wait for the Nebulla nerf in four weeks!
A good replacement for Jeff? He's waaaaay to expensive
woww
Boohoo. I don't have the Darkhawk or the Rockslide or the Jeff 😢
only good cus ppl don’t expect half these cards
mh.. im torn... i started playing some stature decks and i can say... 80% of the time you either play her for 5 or dont play her, which isnt great... relying in black bolt is an issue and moon knight might discard your combo pieces... And having only jeff to move for miles also. yes theres polaris but u wanna play miles on the last turn 90% of the time... vision is not an option because turn 5 is black bolts turn.. and nightcrawler... well... killmonger is so prevelent especially with nebula... so u have jeff but maybe you dont get him or need to move him earlier or have to let him stay?
and then nebula... i get why everyone thinks she is good... BUT... if you play in her path your opponent spent 1 energy for 1 power... sure its not the end of the world... but a 1/1 doesnt seem great. not to mention if you get her turn 3/4... then she max gtes 2 proccs, but opponent just plays in her lane.. if she isnt a curvefiller and u have to decide to play her or something else... i think something else is often better.
She can shine in storm / x / Spiderman decks yeah maybe.. or if your opponent plays a deck like shuri where its 1 big card a turn and he doesnt wanna play all time into nebula lane... but if opponent plays a deck where he can play 1-3 cards a turn... nebula isnt great...
Also i wouldnt say the success from this deck is based on nebula.. its just a good deck and throwing her into good decks makes her look good.
Maybe its just the Meta thats fits, maybe people are not good against new cards and have to learn how to play gainst her.. im running negative / thanos / hit monkey decks and she stays a 1/1 nearly all the time so...
I appreciate you taking the time to comment with a respectful and thoughtful comment, that's rare, but I worry you are offering instinct and speculation as a counter to... data. We have results, so we don't need to speculate about whether a card whiffing sometimes is worth it or not, because we can see the results. It IS worth it, because the data shows us it's worth it. If it wasn't, this deck would not have good data. The version with Nebula has a higher winrate than other versions. The Zabu Darkhawk decks with Stature and Black Bolt have higher winrates than those with other packages. The data tells us what's best. Could that change? Yeah, maybe, but then we'll have new data to see and know.
I think the gap between the feelings of these cards and their reality, is that cards don't ALWAYS have to work, because #1, you're not playing every card in most games. You have choice. So if Stature or Nebula whiffs, okay cool, we don't use them. We have other tools. #2, when they DO work, they swing games in your favor so significantly, that it propels the deck to easy wins. So your baseline floor when you miss is... a powerful deck, and your hits are absolutely dominant.
@@vyreck youre right. I forgot about the "oponent has 1-3 cards in it so he can deny nebula only 1-2 times tha she goes off. And as i said. The pressure to play there especially for decks with just 1 card a turn is there. I see that. Thanks for your insight.
@@RegisKillbin thanks a lot for your time to respond and explain. Your very busy, have lots of comments and i know your time is valuable. And youre probably right.. you have valid points and true. Data over feelings. Its just.. i play card games for many years and its always the same... "card x is busted" until its not ^^ negasonic was the same... people went crazy then realized shes ok.. good against shuri.. good with daredevil.. but horrible against stuff like hood / thanos (stones) or if you need to play there again. So probably i cant hear the "its busted" anymore but sometimes a new card really is. Time will tell :)
Guys you don’t need this deck or these cards in order to hit Imfinite lol… why you are all crying about p2w?? You can literally just play a pool 3 deck and hit Infinite but you have to cry that you don’t have all these cards, that Nebula is busted etc… it’s funny lol
Stop giving attention to stature, she was my secret deck whole last season. (Still great video)
i legit just won like 30 matches straight with this deck it is CRACKED
I have been absolutely despising playing against nebula. Started at 70 went down to 63, it's been ridiculous. I finally starting climbing with a death-doomwave deck, but seriously ridiculous. Honestly already hope she gets nerfed.
Feel the same bro... And they even tell us it's not a pay to win game... I'm 4700 but don't have a third of this deck, it's frustrating
@9:25 placing Nebula into Murderworld mid did win you the game! (lowered Stature cost to 1 energy)
Its a PAY2WIN month, why? Because last months 10$ battlepass was not purchased by enough players, thetefore they beed TWO months of PAY2WIN battle pass card, simple economics.
These games are way too close and you actually know what you are doing. I think I'll pass
Can you guys STOP playing Spider-Man prof X storm. How is GALACTUS complained about least I can still play…
I always hear "this is insane. Amazing winrate" but then i play them and it's just too reliant on specific plays on specific turns. This one, just like regular discard. Is too easily bricked
So... this isn't an easy conversation, and I am only saying this with tough love, no hate, but when you have decks with fantastic data like this, and Discard too right now has great numbers (both across sufficiently large sample sizes), you probably have to start looking at your plays instead of the deck. Something is going wrong if the deck is working for everyone else but isn't working for you.
I wouldn't describe this deck as a particularly "bricky" deck by any means. It has multiple proactive early-game plays. It doesn't have a ton of energy flexibility, but it definitely has great catch-up potential with big swings late. Perhaps mapping out lines over multiple turns could be something that's going wrong for you? Perhaps not trusting top-decks to fill your curve is an issue? Perhaps not trusting your swing tech cards due to meta unfamiliarity? Do you come from other cards games - are you stuck in a mindset of playing for "tempo" maybe, when that's not nearly as relevant in Snap? Turns 4-6 are 90% of a Marvel Snap game I would say, where turns 1-3 can decide so many traditional card games.
I'm just trying to understand why this might be going awry for you. I want to help.
got some wins against it but its not easy