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- Alternative fuels, like ethanol and algae, have been around for years, yet there have been obstacles hindering these biofuels' take over the market. Here's why.
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"Two prices determine its profitability: the price of corn and the price of oil. The higher the price of corn, the more expensive it is to divert from feeding animals or making high-fructose corn syrup and instead distill it as alcohol fuel for cars and trucks. Second, the higher the price of oil, the more economically ethanol can be blended with gasoline. When corn is cheap and oil prices are high, ethanol margins are fat. But when corn prices rise and oil prices fall, ethanol margins are flat."
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I've modified my car to have it run on 3 people pushing it. Works great for getting around town.
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Is that a Trabant? Hint: the rear window defroster keeps your hands warm.
I just use hamsters .
That's called renewed slavery and i'm surprised you're proud of it.
@@pietrojenkins6901 Oh? Please explain how it's slavery.
Early on, Soviet rocket scientists discovered a major flaw with using ethanol as fuel.
It kept mysteriously disappearing. True story.
Yeah, "disappeared" like millions of their own citizens.
@@sebastianelytron8450 yeah disappeared into their stomach lol
that is because the solders wher drinking it...
@array s ya, they where burning ethenol, because the Nazies cut off there oil supply. from my understanding this is what they where drinking
LMAO
The problem is not the research speed but the government and oil corporations you're clashing on.
When Europe has cars getting over 60 mpg for decades. Or when Asia has hydro powered cars and better mpg cars or when.....oil companies are evil as all get out and our Gov bending over for their money and right to rule is even eviler and the most evil thing of all...the Americans unwillingness to uproot evil from which it stands
Which is why the US government gives corn and sugarcane subsidies to make ethanol. All the sugar farms are polluting the waterways of Florida creating toxic algae.
They only do this because of profit and its availability. You really think these corpos want to make the change at the expense of money and profit?
Exactly. The gov'ts run on greenhouse gas hysteria and legislation (skillfullly put together by oil company legal scholars/teams) geared to deter research/development, which, thus far, has been very effective at stopping both research as well as much interest in such research..
More like the EV agenda*
Big oil companies:
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They would rather make fuel and money. And I would rather have fuel than electric car. Because vroom vroom
Here in Brazil, most cars are called "flex", which means they can run on both gasoline and ethanol, at the same time. It helps spread the use of biofuels here, because ethanol is not always cheaper. It is such a common practice to run to the gas station and calculate which fuel is cheaper that the manufacturers include some conversion tables printed in the car.
Wierd flex but okay
Ethanol makes food costlier bcuz so much corn is redirected to fuel rather than food.
Pietro Jenkins we don’t use corn ;)
@@pietrojenkins6901: Not necessarily. The sugar cane waste for example is processed into ethanol.
@@pietrojenkins6901
Not in Brazil, were food byproducts are abundant, while they export soy and Co.
let's make it better... why don't YOU have access to functional biofuels?
...because you're not in Brazil or Sweden
@Håkan Lundberg In Australia we have e85 ethanol fuel available from some fuel stations. It is produced as a byproduct of the grain industry here. It's a popular fuel here for performance cars and race cars as it performs much better than regular petrol in performance engines. I have used it myself and its great.
@Håkan Lundberg Yes it's a lot warmer here so we don't have the starting issues on ethanol fuels. New cars that can run on it is uncommon here but it is popular for modified performance cars so I guess that is why they must still sell it.
nope because our country wont let you get to functional biofuels
Håkan Bråkan Lundberg Finland (Neste) produces biodiesel which can be used in regular cars without issues
@Maverick Hargrave Hello, Maverick Hargrave! I would like to disagree with you, if I may... in fact, CanaSat project by Inpe shows that a great part of sugarcane farms are expanding since the 1990s from pasture areas, at least in Sao Paulo State... There are some studies by Embrapa that endorses that too... I believe that in other states things go by the same way, but I am not so sure. In Sao Paulo state, the area covered with forest is growing in the last decades. And there are studies showing that sugarcane is not a good plant for the Amazon region, so its expansion the Amazon forest is not so relevant for now...
my son has been using Waste Veggie Oil to fuel his truck for over 10 years now.
Isaac Butterfield, is that you... ? :D
Hi5.
Mine's been recently running off of transformer oil.
@zztop3000 You can eventually get it from free from local restaurants if you ask them. Or buy it new, bottled or in greater quantities from vegetable oil resellers - if it's significantly cheaper than diesel and it's already clean.
@@Bigvs.Dickvs
Not even "eventually", you can literally get it from restaurants, heck some of them will even give it away for free seeing that your doing them a service by taking used oil off their hands for free.
Proper oil disposal cost money. Free is, free.
Not all countires eat as much junk food as america, so it not really sustainable.
Technically speaking we have functional biofuel for diesel I'm a truck driver in almost every fuel station South of the Maryland line usually uses about 20% biodiesel
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@@spaceman6463 If train conducting isn't close to being automated, truck driving is far from being close. Maybe his kids or grandkids shouldn't be truck drivers, he's fine though.
Ben M
Ai isn’t trusted yet there has to be test your reason is stupid
Self driving cars are gonna come on the next 10 years you think truck jobs are gonna be magically safe there just gonna be left even tho companies have pre payed for them
@@spaceman6463 That's not an argument. That's an insult and a reassertion of your claim. Trains have much fewer variables to program for and as such have a much higher likelihood of being automated than trucks. This is literally the same reason air drones were the first to be automated, there are fewer variables to program for in the sky.
Ben M
So there aren’t good be self driving cars until 100 years into the future despite the fact we already have working modals this is your argument
Recycled vegetable oil (h-fuel as she called it) is "not" an expensive conversion process. There are "many" amateur setups where either the farm equipment (tractors and such) or their trucks, or both, run on the stuff and they save thousands of $$ a year on costs. Not just fuel costs, as the electricity used to help run the transesterification process. If you want to learn more info on it, just search for "Waste Vegetable Oil" or "WVO".
it's only expensive to the ones who "really" don't want to do it and use other types of processes as they won't make as much of a profit off the WVO than they do from ethanol based fuels.
Korishan give me some sources to read please. it makes sense but not enough proof
I think the creators know that. The video is just agenda driven. They didn't mention how diesel engines can actually run on un-refined recycled vegetable oil, though the engine will run more efficiently if processed first. There have been car set-ups where people pour recycled unrefined vegetable oil through a filter (to remove any large contaminants) strait into their fuel tank.
...of course the diesel engines need some modifications to do it.
Hey Korishan, I’m sorry you feel that way! In the video we address issues that apply to producing biofuel efficiently on a MASS scale for entire countries, which is quite different than producing it on an individual scale. We also do recognize and mention several countries, like Brazil and Sweden, where biofuels are being used successfully, but the video is about the barriers to implementing it in countries where it’s not widely used.
@@drendelous As I said, just search for WVO and you get loads of sources, videos, articles, etc.
The premise of this video is totally flawed because:
1. It states that is hard to use ethanol as fuel for cars, which is false as Brazil does it since the 70's.
2. It considers refining ethanol to be very energy consuming but forgets that extracting and refining crude oil is very energy consuming too. If it's used the Brazilian technology, all parts of the sugarcane that can't be distilled or the byproduct of the distillation itself can be burned and generate more energy than the refining plant requires. It produces so much energy that it's around 10% of Brazilian energy production.
3. Ethanol production doesn't put strain on food supply if it's done right. Sugarcane in Brazil has 4 crops a year and, as the country is large as hell, it has enough land. And no, it's not produced in the Amazon. The plantations are around 1000 km away from it...
If only our government taxed it differently from gas, it would be really advantageous, but our gas stations cartels makes sure that it will always cost 70% of the gasoline price, no matter the oil price, or if it's harvest season for the sugarcane
thanks for such info, i thought they were doing it in the amazon
I think the problem with ethanol is not because it is energy consuming but because 1 liter of ethanol produces less energy than the energy required to produce that 1 liter, making it a net negative.
This is according to Real Engineering's video about bio fuel.
Tears of my enemies is the only fuel I need
You've been running on empty forever then huh.
May be their success
That's strange, I've always used the blood and souls of my enemies.
@@Barnaclehook im guessing you've never put anything in it.
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she said “ethanol production it’s at the expense of food production” - that rhetoric was pushed by big oil... the ethanol (when produced from corn) does not use the actual seeds, but the rest of the plant (so if anything makes the corn production cheaper / therefore helps lowering the cost of corn production) ... i find most of her clips informative thou (maybe i’m missing something)
@Pit Crew Tuning PCT it can be made out of patato or methane gas so yes that bull crap is useful and the steak is not half bad either and i think some want us to leave useful stuff in the ground say oil and eat bugs and get mutations from pesticides
They grow special corn for ethonal, and any acreage devoted to ethonal corn could go into normal corn. I know this because I live around these farms.
@@thepope2412 first thats not true and for a few reasons and one is government regulation and the second is demand so just bc they can grow something else doesn't mean its profitable or useful
Corn is shitty food anyway.
you can make bioethanol using corn, which is what she's talking about, but you can also make cellulosic ethanol using the corn stalks and waste products. it's a different process though, and more complicated. cellulosic ethanol is more promising, but bioethanol is more widely known, which might be why she focused on it.
Common, we got diesel cars, they can run on any oil, vegetable oil you name it, only thing you need is to heat it up before it goes to the engine.
Is it true that Otto Diesel designed his engine to run on peanut oil?
@@james6401 easily possible, oil works man. Pretty much any kind with the right burning enzymes.
My father puts the used filtered oil in his diesel car 50 50 and it works perfectly!
All those economical costs ecc. are bullshit, because the petrol has to be extracted and refined too, which is not exactly emission free.
All they want to say is to produce electric cars, just cause they decided to.
Because oil companies keep burrying anything that isnt oil.
Right. I've seen a car that runs on compressed air. A windmill turning an air compressor is free fuel. They said"what if the tank gets punctured? It would be a rocket ". Bc a tank of gas is safe lol
That's not why.
Biofuels are inherently inefficient to make.
Which is why ethanol fuel didn't become a thing until the government subsidies were added.
The fact is it takes more energy to make ethanol than the ethanol contains.
It takes an idiot to think that it's a good idea to use a megawatt of energy to get half a megawatt of energy while at the same time making your food more expensive......
@@lordgarion514 Wrong. Ethanol has no subsidies anymore (hasn't had them for years now) and the FACT is that ethanol production is energy positive. This was proven over a decade ago. Apparently oil companies didn't get the memo (or certainly they did and smeared the crap out of it, hence why everyone hates an awesome fuel such as ethanol so much).
@@douglas685
Really?
Nit what the federal government says.
afdc.energy.gov/fuels/laws/ETH?state=US
Also, from 1995-2017 corn farmers received 111 billion in subsidies. Now, 40% of corn goes to ethanol, and it very much gets the same subsidies as the rest of the corn.
AND, the feds don't like calling "favorable" tax policies(and other money) subsidies, but the IEA which America helped set up, run, and fund does.
Ethanol gets subsidies out the ass.
@@lordgarion514 No they aren't hard to make. The amount of work that goes into making gas and oil far out classes all biofuels combined. Surveying land" buying land with oil on it, drilling/mining for said oil, building entire towns for the employees who work near these oil fields, collecting the oil, transporting the oil, processing the oil, the oil and gas that are required to keep all the machines/vehicles running so they can do all these processes is already ridiculous as is. None of that is factored into how "efficient" oil and gas are, yet it's factored into biofuels for some odd reason.
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Wow, and I thought my dinners were boring...
Lol I thought I'm the only Taiwanese doing that!
@@sebastianelytron8450 STFU ur in the same video buddy
Your English is fantastic
HOLY MOLY INSTANTLY CLICKED BECAUSE I HAVE TO WRITE MY CHEMISTRY RESEARCH PAPER ON BIOFUELS THANKS SO MUCH.
Google hemp fuel, Bio-Diesel using hemp oil, fords hemp car and recent hemp powered generator
Have a look at David MacKay's TED talk....1st few minutes v insightful on biofuel energy density
Yea, it's nice when that happens. Unfortunately for me, I have to write a paper on animal collective nouns. EVERYTHING about it is either a list or a blurb about the one good book on the subject. A book I already have.
I would suggest figuring out how the caps lock key worked before writing your paper. You'll probably get better marks and/or better reception (i.e. people won't instantly dislike it) if you do.
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Me, in Brazil, watching this...
"What is this woman talking about?!"
That happens a lot XD
I'd like to know how hemp biofuel measures up to the others. I've heard you can grow three crops a year, it has oily seeds, and can also be used for practically everything else we need...
It's the best of any of them. Sadly there's still too many restrictions on growing hemp in the United States. Henry Ford had that vision.
Incorrect as far as making biodiesel is concerned. In the UK we are allowed to make 1500L/year last time I checked without paying duty. The result? Instead of about £1.30/L (about $6.40USD/gal) it's more like £0.20/L or about $1.00USD/gal. That's using a garage kit not industrial methods. You can make it cheaper if you know where to go as waste chip fat is something people will pay you to take away. I was counting on paying zero for used chip fat. A guy I know before things went a bit nuts here with diesel issues was looking at producing it commercially and people were willing to pay £50 per tonne for him to take it away.
Rudolf Diesel designed his first engine to run on peanut oil
So Crude Oil doesn’t need vast Oil Refineries to make the Crude into a Fuel for an engine? Come on, balance things up, so like for like!
I was thinking the same ting. The way they make it sound is as if both technologies are equally as mature. Really it like comparing a 5 yr old who just learned to read with a college professor as they both read Shakespeare out loud.
Actually, in the oil field, pump trucks sometimes run out of fuel. If the driver knows what they are doing, the can siphon off some sweet crude from the tanks and use it to get back to town. Diesel and sweet crude oil are very very close and only need a bit of refining and green or red dye.
Nathan Fields That’s with ‘Sweet Oil’ which is the highest quality of crude, but most of the best Oil has been used up. Nearly all Oil now is thick dirty Crude Oil, or tar sands oil, so most Oil now needs refineries, and even ‘Sweet Oil’ is refined and has addictives added to it before going to fuelling stations.
Kiyarose3999 that’s not entirely the case. If oil fields are left alone for long time they regenerate and often produce at the same rate and quality as the original. That’s why “peak oil” is such a scam. If it’s really fossil fuels explain why there are oceans of petroleum on one of Jupiter’s moons.
Nathan Fields I can only think that gas probably builds up in disused wells, pushing the last remains to the top, making it seem like it was when first drilled, with the same pressures. But is likely to be a flash in the pan( like Fracked Wells), I’m not saying there’s a shortage of Oil of all types. New Oil is being discovered all the time, even off the UK coast. But it’s not to do with how much oil there is. But we NEED to leave the rest in the ground, and use Carbon Sequestering Algea Bio Fuel instead, so using the world’s vehicles as Carbon Sequestering machines.
You can't actually expect anyone to believe that distilling ethanol from corn is more expensive than drilling and processing petroleum. 😂😂😂😂
it's been established already vs ongoing research and development. Once Drilled, it just spews out.
@@kendelion Nope, after a certain point, you need to start pumping water into the well so that the rest of the oil comes out, otherwise thousands of gallons of oil just sit underground as waste. And of course, that's assuming you can get your hands on these super convenient liquid deposits, which isn't always the case nowadays as most easily accessible oil deposits have already run out, leading to the more widespread usage of more expensive techniques such as fracking.
And remember, this is all just for extracting the oil, you still need to distill it in order to refine it.
@@augustovasconcellos7173 I see, hope we find a way to get energy from other sources cheaper, easier, and more environmentally friendly.
@@augustovasconcellos7173 You also need to distill bioethanol. Plus when you distill crude oil you get a lot of other useful chemicals as byproducts.
It's true though
3:09 sounds exactly like my parent's chickens when they see you coming with food
Brazil: hold my beer. 🧐
Brazil: hold my cachaça.
In the EU (or at least in Germany) a certain percentage of biofuel in regular fuel is mandatory.
Well yeah it’s the same in the U.S about 15 % now but the video doesn’t mention that
It's becoming mandatory everywhere, but I don't know how much of this policy derives from a true preocupation with the environment and how much of it comes from a preocupation to please the the ethanol industry. In Brazil, the gasoline is mixed with 25-27% ethanol and I can't but to suspect a large part of this is due to lobby.
In California even the regular gas is like 10 or 15% ethanol
I run Flex fuel and will do biodiesel in the future
Na, I have the real reason: Biofuel is currently used but on AIRCRAFT. So since aircraft needs more fuel than cars, so most of the Biofuel goes to the Aviation industry. Because KLM already uses biofuel for a regularly flights using Airbus A320 families since 2011.
Since the hemp plant can produce up to three times more oil than the ones mentioned which might be why it was illegal for so long as is the best alternative. Stalks and fibers used to clothing and rope. What was not mentioned is to cost of drilling vs growing and environmental impacts of petroleum oil spills. I believe people are now using CBT oils as natural pain remedies.
Got a bone to pick with this.
A lot of the video was spent talking about biofuel for GASOLINE powered cars, creating Ethanol from "bio" sources. Ask any moonshiner if extracting pure ethanol from plant material is difficult, or energy intensive. The short answer is yes.
On the other hand, biofuel production for DIESEL engines, is absolutely there, it's 100% feasible, cheap and reliable done correctly, transesteracation is a relatively simple process and yields plenty of usable biofuel for diesel engines at a carbon neutral output.
Which takes me to the Crux of my point. Moving away from petroleum based fuels is absolutely possible, if there weren't so many stakeholders in place, that would loose out financially as a result, alliances between nation's have been founded on the basis of oil trade, massive multinational companies rely on petroleum based fuels, which was not addressed.
I love this host she's so relatable!! Thank you seeker always looking forward to the additional knowledge on a daily basis...
The saying "right tool for the job" comes to mind. There's not going to be a silver bullet here, at least for the foreseeable future.
Don't try to simplify things and don't buy into hype(something this channel should learn btw), it takes time, money and clever minds to solve problems. So if you really want to see change, don't whine over taxes, promote free education and stop whining "that everything is so difficult". That wont lead to anything. *Life* is difficult. Grow up and look at the larger picture.
Or or or the silver bullets have been shot and taken away from the crime scene so there's very little forensic evidence. With oil companies having a stranglehold on the energy industry makes things too easy for them to stay in power. They lobby, get laws made to protect their actions. They buy patents before they are publicly released and then sit on them for years and years until people forget there were cars invented which run off water and air. You see any good killer knows bullets leave casings. That's why truly evil people will remove all evidence of the violence against humanity so long as humanity continues to still put their faith in the crooked killers, the crooked prosecutors who say no shells no crime or to the crooked judge who was either paid off or is blackmailed to make the wrong decisions. You see, this problem goes way deeper than some silver bullets. When the whole system is corrupt and being controlled, this raises the question - who really even cares who shot those bullets in the first place? Maybe the ones in control will play it off as a hate crime or random heart attack or mysterious disappearance. If you need me to back up any of my claims with credible evidence showing everything I said as true, I will....
I have always been amazed by Diesel engines. It’s such good machine to work on such a low grade fuel!
Wish it would surge the market soon for biofuel.
There are already vehicles modified to run on wood gas. I am also aware of a tree that grows to full maturity in about 5 years and can reliably regrow from a stump. I can't remember the name, unfortunately, that would take some searching.
Wood gas is a waste product of making charcoal. A production plant could burn charcoal to cook wood and produce more charcoal, capturing the gas as a fluid fuel and saving the tar for use in road resurfacing, roofing or simply as another fuel source. Rather than a fuel tank with liquid, cars would have pressurized cylinders of wood gas and a regulator rather than a fuel pump.
Because oil companies are already making billions of dollars a year off of petroleum and they don't plan on stopping anytime soon if they figured out how to make biofuel tomorrow some big petroleum company with Baba formula and make sure none of it ever gets produced until they've sold off the last drop of petroleum-derived fuel.
Canaan that is very true
Quite possibly, but even if they found an effective way to make biofuels for cars and trucks, oil is used to make so many different products that we would still be using lots of it for the foreseeable future.
ur an idiot!
Here in russia, ethanol fuels your stomach!
Algae biofuel seems like the most practical option for the decades it will take for electric vehicles to take over. I want to be able to run my vintage muscle car on a carbon neutral fuel in an era where most other vehicles on the road are electric. It's going to take a while for electric vehicle technology to get to the same level as oil, because since oil has 130+ years of technological advancements, it's going to take a while for other technologies to reach that level. If we focused on steam instead of combustion for engines, for example, modern steam cars might be as quick to start and fast as gasoline engines.
The solution is thermal depolymerization.
This process can make anything hydrocarbon into oil and be used for reclamating everything from our waste streams, crop overproduction to any plastics, rubbers and most waste.
This is a net positive energy producer and a refinement using variable microwaves makes the prosess even more efficient.
I think many oil companies are working on advanced biofuels (so not ethanol) for some time now, but it takes time to bring these new technologies to the market (and investors). For example, Shell Oil makes fuel from wood, which is quite interesting. I have read about this on www.shell.com/ih2.
I am waiting for the day everything runs on electricity powered buy a fusion reactor
Cant wait for ITER to go online. Others are already working on bigger tokamaks too
don't worry, it's only 20 years away from (insert any date)
In our country got ethanol that fermented from sugarcane available at every gas station. We got mix ratio rate as E10, E20 and E85
E10 = 10% ethanol + 90% fuel
E20 = 20% ethanol + 80% fuel
E85 = 85% ethanol + 15% fuel (This is cheapest one)
Most new car here can handle E85 so they pay less for fueling but for older car need some modify to be working well.
(PS. When sugar price is dropping sugarcane farmer will likely to sell those sugarcane for production of ethanol)
That wasn’t a misstatement when she said we’ve been working on biofuels since the early 1900s. Rudolf Diesel designed his engine to run on peanut oil, but kerosene (an oil derivative then used for stoves and lanterns) was cheaper.
Ford auto company initially used alcohol fuel, but the oil companies convinced him to go gasoline with lots of money.
No talk of turning biomass into conventional fuels by hydrothermal liquefaction, you know the most viable method to date?.....No okay well
That would be disruptive to the narrative. It's been a viable solution for a decade and a half, but it doesn't make rich people even filthier rich so until the mob finally drags them out in the streets and beats them to death, don't expect anyone to do anything but pretend "we're not quite there" for another few decades still. Even though we've been "there" for well over a decade now.
Every time I see or hear the word biomass I think of zero horizon: dawn. Rip Dolphins
If ethanol is a fail, then why are ethanol blends wide spread, cheaper, cleaner and more powerful. Don't know what part if US seeker is living in.
Ethanol blends are not more powerful that pure gasoline. Ethanol and fuels like E85. 1.5 gallons of ethanol has the same energy content as 1.0 gallon of gasoline. A flex-fuel vehicle will experience about 76% of the fuel mileage MPG when using E85 (85% ethanol) products as compared to 100% gasoline. ... Pure ethanol provides 2/3 of the heat value available in pure gasoline. It is so wide spread is because it was mandated by the government to help farmers and be less reliant on the middle east. But when you allocate finite farm land from growing food crops to crops used to make bio fuels makes no sense to me.
Ben Ghazi That is true with boosted engines but why would I fill up with 10% blend and go 600km before fill up when I can get 1000km on pure gasoline for the same price at the pump?
@Ben Ghazi E10 is the same price at the pumps. I drive a 2003 Ford Super Duty extended cab, 8 foot box 4x4 with the 5.4 gas engine. Needless to say the engine is just enough for the truck. Saying that the truck gets average 17 MPG highway so I am not complaining at all. But since the engine has 9.0:1 compression and is naturally aspirated there is not enough energy in E10 for the engine to make enough power to move the heavy truck so I have to put in more throttle. That is why the range is so poor with E10.
@@garnetcampbell4389 Certainly true, however not all e85 vehicles are like this. GM used to make a flex fuel ecotech turbo 4 cyl Buick which only had a 10% mpg loss on e85 vs 87 gas. It pushed boost and timing up to some very impressive levels to effectively utilize every single drop of e85 to the max. It was available for a couple years before GM killed it. Every single e85 vehicle since with the exception of 1 new Mercedes has been non turbo with 13:1 or less compression, effectively making MPG loss look terrible. I honestly wonder sometime if there really is a conspiracy going on. Why not make turbos run e85 to take advantage of the octane and offset the loss? Also, even with the loss added in, here in the "heartland" e85 is dirt cheap, and it's low cost makes up most of the difference in my area, net is about the cost of filling up with 89.
The US subsidizes it though corn and sugar subsidies. It's a corporate welfare scam.
In Australia they have E10 fuel which is made of 10% bio-ethanol and is equivalent to octane 95 and any car that can run unleaded fuel can use it. It is also always 2 cents / litre cheaper than the other fuels
I worked for a vm backed biofuels firm a few years ago. We made jet fuel, butadiene (synthetic rubber from biofuels), n-butanol (a high octane biofuel) and other biofuels from cellulosic materials like bagasse, wood chips, and corner stover. In the end , the VC pulled its funding because they did not want to build a plant. We had proven low cost production of clean biofuels and bio-chemicals, but the money would not take the risk. This is why we don’t have widespread biofuels. There is no appetite for risk and competing with oil companies.
I feel like biofuel is never going to get off the ground, because it will inevitably due to conversion costs always being too high, the reason fossil fuels work is because they accumelated over millions of years from pre-existing dead plant matter, it's the laws of thermo dynamics at play.
your background kind of strains the eye first i thought it was the glare but then i checked again it your red blue green background
yeah that fucked me up too, to the point i didnt watch the video, just listened to it
Besides sugar cane ethanol, here in Brazil, there's a mandatory mix of biodiesel with regular diesel.
Well even tho producing biofuel requires a lot of energy, then if energy source is clean, then I find it worth. Biofuel may be just a long term energy storage, or used as you said for planes, since they contribute to co2 emissions largely. Also many times we have overproduction of energy in certain time and conditions, we can use it.
Because the government prefers to establish laws that bans memes instead.
My car runs on the blood of my enemies
Corn ethanol is available at a decent amount of stations in the midwest US, at least from my experience.
This is great, good work and thank you for the perspective. How about a 2 hour video to show all the options
I love ur glasses maren!
I’m not supporting the use of Corn etc Ethanol as an alternative fuel, BUT to say it doesn’t have the energy density of Petroleum fuel, is ignoring the fact that Ethanol is what Drag racers use, so it is obviously a enough powerful fuel, and may compare or be better than fossil fuel.
The reason ethanol or other alcohol based fuels are used is because they resist premature detonation otherwise known as knock, which allows have more power without blowing up your engine. It is less energy dense, so they have to use more of it to make the same amount of power.
in indonesia , we are using biofuel from palm oil , it's cheap , and we try to use 100% palm oil as our main fuel
Isn't palm oil use destroying the rainforests and natural habitats?...........There's rising concern around the world regarding palm oil use, especially what comes from Indonesia.
I had a client have me modify a Toyota hilux diesel pick up to run on veggitable oil, palm oil and used fry oil from restaurants.
It had more horse Power than with diesel fuel.
It was a duel fuel system and worked great.
I personally like LPG for gasoline motors.
Bacteria can shorten the time needed to convert biofuel using crops.
Nuck
Time to make some doodoo!
Do charcoal briquettes made of human poop count as a source of biofuel?
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This reminds me that some tribes in the Amazon forest used to bury poop with charcoal, and that explains some extra-fertile patches of "black soil" on a forest whose soil tends to be quite poor
Brazil has been using biofuel sense the 1970 in their cars, their distillation plants are self sufficient they have developed a excellent system that US and other countries could learn from them.
I though about this.
Limited applications for biofuels:
- Farm machinery
- Overground mining vehicles
- Military vehicles
- Ferries and river barges
- Commercial and business jets
Limited sources:
- Forestry, food, and meat wastes
- Unused parts of food/cash crops
- Bioenergy crops on marginal lands
- Algae ponds
I dont know what it is, but something about your videos makes me uneasy...
It’s the background
Too much light and color .
The ONLY reason we don't "use" biofuels is because of big oil. The tech is here
Here in Iceland we sector and contain garbage disposal sites and then simply pump the methane once pressure builds.
This way we catch the methane, which can be used as fuel, and by burning it we're effectively reducing greenhouse gas emissions rather than just staying neutral.
it's 4:16 AM and I'm not complaining that this is how I'm spending my night
Get sleep you wrote it's 416am and your talking about nightime. 😂
We probably should look into another reason: money.
Gasoline companies will lobby the crap out of all alternative energies. That's really the reason.
I think we are forgetting the main reason, governments keep subsidising fossil fuels.
Its MAGIC I certainly won’t disagree with you there-but Seeker is a science channel, so we address the science of the issue. If we went into the politics of the issues we cover on the channel, every video would be 20+ minutes long!
Just like how ethanol fuel is also heavily if not entirely subsidized by the government
@@galacticnova85 I have absolutely wonderful news for you!
The Federal subsidy on corn ethanol also known as VEETC ended back in 2011!(along with import tariffs) afdc.energy.gov/laws/laws_expired?jurisdiction=US
The G7 Nations' long standing stated goal of ending petroleum subsidies?......not so much.
In Brazil it is very common for cars to run on ethanol and all gas stations have it, but most of the time gasoline has a better cost-benefit relation for the customer
Back in the 1930s Henry Ford created a vehicle made of hemp composite and ran on hemp biofuel. It's time to start growing fields of it and lift the restrictions. The reason is because of corporate interference and greed as always.
Just chill, we got tidal, wind, solar, hydro, future fusion power with electric motor and improving battery technology....Carbon neutral....we r getting tr!
We should put our research in Electric Cars & Magnetic Levitation
What is more to research about MAGLEV?
@douglas carpenter That may be too late
@douglas carpenter there is nothing cheaper than free oil. You don't have to produce oil... It's already in the ground. It's cheaper than water. Too bad it won't last forever...
@Santa ! He does not realise the irony of his own idiocy. IE saying we believe anything and expecting us to believe his nonsense with no evidence.
Here in Finland we have Neste My diesel which is made 100% from renewable sources such as trash and from plan grease. You can buy it from the closest Neste petrol station and it costs 0.20€/liter more than normal diesel. They promise 90% smaller CO2 emissions and that it works on all diesel engines .
I'm a Maren snob, I know but this is by far my favorite sweater/ hairstyle combo! I may only watch videos with this configuration twice from now on.. 😄
long story short... petroleum mafia companies won't let you. that's it
The vid is obviously pro--oil industry. Sounds like a tobacco commercial to me. Kinda like, "We've tried non-tobacco products. But they're expensive and don't give the same kick."
If you only you could process all the salt from the youtube comment section and turn it into a biofuel.
They are working on sodium batteries. I think that the only way to extract the salt from the comments would be to process the commenters in a rendering plant. Doing that is probably a bit energy intensive to be practical. ;-)
When you consider process requirements from crude to fuel vs biomass to fuel, it is obvious that it will likely not be cheaper than petroleum sources without policy intervention in the US. It is important to note that electricity from other renewables is a better replacement for gasoline engines. Diesel and Jet are the two important applications for biofuels. I say this as a biomass->fuels researcher
what about hemp for biofuel?
For someone so smart, I would expect someone with a much better fashion sense. I'm not taking anyone serious with that sweater on.
Oh love please less mumbo jumbo we've got what we've got because of greed, not because nobody figured out something better already, they did that years ago.
Even cars that don't come with flex fuel capabilities from the factory don't require much modification.
The only things that need to be changed are the fuel lines (as ethanol corrodes), bigger fuel injectors, a sensor that detects ethanol content , higher flowing fuel pump and an appropriate tune as ethanol based fuels are knock resistant due to the lack of potential chemical energy(relative to fossil fuels) by volume so you essentially need to tell your car to pump more fuel to achieve the same energy output.
Many car enthusiasts and race car applications use E85 conversions. It allows for the production of more power, safely. Fossil fuels, particularly the lower octane ones, are likely to pre-detonate.
Also smells like sweet popcorn. It's cool :)
While we are looking for more effective solutions, biofuel does function. A portion of it is in gasoline from the gas station. You should rename the video because biofuel "functions" it's just not as effective as we want it to be yet. Also another problem is cars since most don't run off pure ethanol.
They certainly could run off pure ethanol:
th-cam.com/video/N6kPJXbPb40/w-d-xo.html
Here's an idea...
Stop!
Using!
Fuels!
Use electric only. Easy peasy.
@Mad Adam solar, wind, geo-thermal, and hydroelectric. With battery technology finally reaching the grid scale, we have no need for fossil fuels anymore. Well other than to make the rich people who own those companies more money as we destroy the planet further by being lazy and not leaving the antiquated 20th Century tech behind.
@Mad Adam oh and Co2 is a greenhouse gas. In and of itself, it's not necessarily a pollutant. It's a gas, but its being too abundant in the atmosphere coupled with water vapor, methane, nitrous oxide, ozone, and chlorofluorocarbons it can cause the climate to be drastically affected by trapping heat. Changing it in devastating ways in a very short time. Which results in catastrophic human accelerated climate change. That will change the face of the planet we know now in some pretty awful ways. The longer we wait to address it, the worse off we leave the planet for our kids and grandkids.
@Mad Adam actually most of it is being fed by coal and natural gas, not nuclear power. if most of it did come from nuclear, the world would be in much better shape and people would be a lot healthier.
@@ohtheblah we no longer need fission. It's too dirty in current reactors and to move to cleaner types would take at the very least a decade in regulatory and safety approvals. Let alone building them. Since we have the solar, wind, and other renewables finally at a mature and viable technology level. Coupled to matured battery and energy storage technology methods. We don't need fission anymore. Fusion on the other hand we could use for sure once it becomes viable, but fission is yet another antiquated technology we should just leave in the 20th Century with fossil fuels.
Edit for a typo
@Mad Adam umm your first claim is completely without merit or facts. CO2 levels have direct effects on the earth's temperature. Denying that simple science based fact is denying reality for a narrative. Facts don't care about your narratives. Facts are facts.
I didn't state CO2 is a pollutant. I guess you have issues reading what I wrote. Let me put it this way for you; CO2 isn't the only greenhouse gas humanity generates. It's a really bad one, but it's not the worst. It just gets the worst rap. We do generate it and in vast, unimaginable quantities that have directly impacted the climate of our planet. Period.
I'm really not here to give you a lesson in plant biology, but sure CO2 is good for the current varieties of plant life. In moderation. Heat also affects plants and specifically their stomata. Which take in CO2 and also put out oxygen and even perspiration like sweating. They don't do it all at once. It's either taking in CO2, releasing oxygen or water vapor perspiring. That's why high heat hurts plants. Because they can't take in other gas when they are releasing H2O in the perspiration phase. Toss on top that plants can only use so much CO2 before it plateaus. It can only use so much CO2 before it doesn't matter.
Again CO2 isn't the only GHG. There are a lot more GHGs we should also address to reduce the effects of climate change. CO2 is just the one that gets the most attention, but there are a few that should also get a lot of attention.
LoL geo-engineering and the HAARP comment show you're not caring about reality. Only a faulty narrative based in pure speculation and a lack of facts. Rather than reality and evidence. You talk about hope for reaching others and I think that's just projection for the fact you either consciously or subconsciously know you're talking about yourself.
I wouldn't be calling other people stupid for understanding science, evidence, and facts. You should be putting down the social media and TH-cam. Then picking up some STEM classes at your local community college. You really need them.
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I VOTE FOR NUCLEARFUEL. WHO'S WITH ME?
Thorium!
Lake Erie has an ongoing “problem” with annual algae blooms. Seems like the Toledo area would be an ideal location to set up a feasible processing plant while avoiding some of the costs of producing algae since it is readily available in the lake. Hopefully UofT is leading the charge in research. It’s an obvious match.
HPR Diesel uses the same refinement process as D2 so saying it takes more energy to turn waste oil in to diesel than crude in to diesel is gravelly mistaken.
A while back I read an article (Forbes Mar 15, 2012) where a garbage dump had produced fuel from garbage. It seems that it cannot compete with crude oil below $60 a barrel (2012 price).
So you haven't heard of Neste, one of, if not the world's leading biofuel developer? Check them out!
The issue is we will never just "grow" a useable liquid fuel. The conservation of energy is a constant so there will always be additional energy input into creating biofuels. Good news is, that just like with crude oil (yes, it needed an external energy source AKA the suns light and billions of years) we can ALSO use the sun to convert biomass into higher energy density fuel.
It would be a very smart case for the use of dollar energy as a means to produce liquid fuels (since solar has a tendency to be an unstable energy source) as opposed to using it to power the residential grid.
THEN you will have true carbon neutral biofuel production AND if you scrub atmospheric CO2 and Hydrogen (through electrolysis) and react them together to make SynGas you can make ANY variety of hydrocarbons and thousands of isomers of them to best suit your needs. This is IMO a much better way since it doesn't cut into the global food supply and put more stress on an already unsustainable and overworked agricultural production system.
Cars that use these fuels would essentially be cleaner than electric vehicles that charge up with electricity produced from natural gas or coal (though electric vehicles that charge off of solar and other renewables are still obviously an order of magnitude cleaner than any ICE powered vehicle)
Huge petroleum companies like Shell, BP, Chevron Texaco fears that this idea will kill their business.
They know the end is near for fossil fuels. The oil companies are some of the biggest investors into biofuels.
I've seen the practice of putting normal new sunflower oil in old diesel cars. Worked great, smelled nice. No winter problems if you blend some diesel in.
@Mad Adam shush, or you get what Rudolf Diesel got 🤫
I'm from Brazil and most cars are "Total-Flex", meaning you can fill up with Ethanol AND Gas in any proportion you want.
Biofuel actually is used by gas stations in the US. According to BP's website:
By federal and state regulation, nearly all gasoline sold by retailers in the US has up to 10% ethanol blended into it to comply with the US Renewable Fuel Standards as part of the Energy Independence and Security Act.
the brown car at 2:01 is giving da finger XD
One of the major issues is not so much the vehicle as it is the transportation system. In smaller countries with less population than the US it is easier as there are less cars on the road (easier to hit a higher percentage of cars). Also many other countries don't have cars as their major transportation source (easier to develop mass transit or smaller cars if you don't have a highway system already in place). It is no wonder why other countries are often ahead of the US when it comes to alternatives fuel use.
We've had "functional" biofuel for a while, but just not on a scale large enough to replace fossil fuels. (But like they mentioned in the video, even if we did, internal combustion engines would need to be completely redesigned.) What they didn't mention is that in most of the U.S. ethanol accounts for 10% of the fuel you pump into your car at gas stations, and that diesel fuel is also blended with some biodiesel as well. Current internal combustion engines can handle and actually benefit from a small amount of ethanol. Home heating oil, which is used to heat many homes in the northeastern U.S., is also blended with biodiesel. There is also a completely different type of biofuel made from plants which is essentially crude oil. This is then treated as normal crude and refined into products. The idea is that it is carbon neutral because the plants used to make it absorb the same amount of CO2 that the fuel they are turned into burns. Which of course is only true if the energy used to refine it is clean as well.
Thanks for the Knowledge!
Love all you do, Maren.
Speaker says we've been TRYING to make biofuels since early 1900s. Actually, biofuels pre-dates petroleum fuels. Henry Ford's model T was designed to run on alcohol (which humans have been producing for more than a millenia). Speaker implied many things that were simply wrong. Biofuels already works (go to Brazil to see how). What doesn't work is the stranglehold the petroleum industry has on our regulations, which essentially mandate at least 85% petroleum product except for a small set of vehicles. We should let economics and science decide, not oil executives.
Brazil has had some success? I fill my car with ethanol pretty much every time
don't let internet see this. they gonna get butthurt and call you a moron.
Brazil put an import tariff on our corn ethanol in 2017. We are too successful.
Also biodiesel has a tiny shelf life. A month if you are lucky. Then it starts to damage the fuel system. It has a nasty foaming problem that makes rapid refueling (a normal gas pump) less than ideal. It works best when cut about 75% with normal diesel, even then it needs to be quickly used.
2:00 Did the tan van just flip me off?