I'm pleasantly amazed the Coens could make "Raising Arizona" and "No Country For Old Men". The word genius is overused today, but the Coens are brilliant bordering on genius.
The same reason why I love Hamlet so much. It opens in the middle of an even bigger crisis than the one happening in the family with an ongoing war and ends with the foreign army approaching the castle. There’s shit going on outside of the story that will affect or has affected the characters, but that’s how life is, too.
Bill Burr is a riot. Yes he also gets the movie in a way a lot of people don’t. Lot of other cookies I’m sure that he mentioned throughout the podcast. Blood Simple,TBL, Man Who Wasn’t There, and O’Brother Where Our’t Thou are all CLASSICS.
I like to think Anton is supposed to be Death. That's what I think all the coin tosses are about. The closest Tommy Lee Jones comes to Anton is in the scene at 2:24, where he finds the dime on the ground that Chigurh used to open the vent -- that dime is face up, a heads, the camera does a close up on the coin to show it.
No Country was the most scared I've ever been in the movie theater, not in Halloween or Silence of the Lambs way where you're scared by what's happening, but in a 3D way, where I thought Chigurh was going to kill us in the theater. When Llewelyn is running from Chigurh after the hotel shootout and he gets in that guy's car and then Chigurh starts pumping bullets into the car, I ducked so low in my seat. And every subsequent bullet made me duck lower because I thought bullets were going to fly out of the screen and hit me. That night I was walking up the stairwell at my parents' place and I kept slowing down to try to see around the corner because I thought dude was going to show up.
I'm one of the few who just thinks this is an ok film, nothing special. Miller's Crossing, Lebowski and Fargo I much preferred. The supposed tension in this film wasn't really there for me. Maybe a cliche, but just a slight musical score might've helped a bit. Was hyped to watch it as well. Can't like em all, I suppose
Yep, the only problem with Burr's headcanon there is that it robs Chigurh of any threat or agency if he's just a figment of TLJ's sheriff's memory. And Josh Brolin would have gotten away with the money as well.
But Brolin's character wasn't killed by Chigurh, he was killed in the motel by the Mexican cartel guys that found him through his wife and mother-in-law.
@@JM-cf9xyyeah it’s supposed to make you feel unsatisfied, that’s part of its brilliance. No Country is a modern western that establishes but then subverts genre rules. It’s about society and the world as a whole changing. It is no longer the country that Tommy Lee Jones knew. Based on my interpretation of your point, the kind of movie you want is the old westerns. You wanted the confrontation to occur between Moss and Chigurgh, but that’s the old world, this is the new one. The movie successfully made you feel cheated of a satisfying conclusion, that was the point. If that upsets you, that’s fine, it’s not a movie for you. But most people love the movie because it’s about that very dissatisfaction. It’s more realistic, sure, but it’s also more thematically resonant to have Moss fail, to have the sheriff fail and accept that the old old world is gone.
No Country is a period peace. There were no ‘84 trucks in the scene because it was 1980. He says how long the coin had been “traveling” and what year was on it in the gas station scene, establishing our year.
I remember hating this movie when I first saw it just because of the killing of Brolin's character off screen. I'm fine with stories where the main protagonists die, in fact some of my favourite films of all time have tragic endings, but not actually showing the death I felt robbed me of some closure with the character. Although unique, I kept thinking "how do you do that? Is that even proper writing?" It would be like if at the end of Saving Private Ryan ***26 YEAR OLD SPOILER ALERT*** instead of actually seeing Tom Hanks' Captain Miller dying we just get it mentioned in a conversation between Matt Damon and Edward Burns' surviving characters. Over the years I've rewatched the film many times and came to enjoy it, especially for Javier Bardem who has become one of my favourite and most respected actors, but not being able to see the complete character arch of Moss still bugs me.
Bill wearing out dvds matches his personality
Physical media is key. Better audio visual quality than streaming. Streaming services can't just take it away from you.
I didn't even know that was possible, I've watched a few DVDs dozens of times and last I checked they still work
dvds dont "wear out". he clearly just doesnt know how to handle them
I'm pleasantly amazed the Coens could make "Raising Arizona" and "No Country For Old Men". The word genius is overused today, but the Coens are brilliant bordering on genius.
“… then I woke up.”
No happy ending, just a bunch of shi# that happened. Just like real life.
The same reason why I love Hamlet so much. It opens in the middle of an even bigger crisis than the one happening in the family with an ongoing war and ends with the foreign army approaching the castle. There’s shit going on outside of the story that will affect or has affected the characters, but that’s how life is, too.
One of the most perfect films ever made, but my personal favorite Coen brothers film is still ''Miller's Crossing''.
Look in ya heart, Tommy.
@@jodi2847 What heart?
Miller's is easily better i think, the plot, the dialogue, the action is all perfection
I also think Fargo is perfect.
Bill Burr is a riot. Yes he also gets the movie in a way a lot of people don’t. Lot of other cookies I’m sure that he mentioned throughout the podcast. Blood Simple,TBL, Man Who Wasn’t There, and O’Brother Where Our’t Thou are all CLASSICS.
What made those trucks look so cool was the roll bar in the bed, behind the cab. Travolta's truck in Urban Cowboy is my favorite movie truck.
Crazy how bill burs enthusiasm for films has just given me a new way of think of anton chigurs character ❤
best soundtrack ever ...
It’s cool how you pull these tidbits out of Burr’s rambling basement podcast stream of thought.
I like to think Anton is supposed to be Death.
That's what I think all the coin tosses are about. The closest Tommy Lee Jones comes to Anton is in the scene at 2:24, where he finds the dime on the ground that Chigurh used to open the vent -- that dime is face up, a heads, the camera does a close up on the coin to show it.
Totally. He’s a dude that just appears, does his job using a farm tool and his haircut even resembles a hood.
He’s destiny. Which is also chance.
He's definitely talking about Scorsese and Tarantino.
Bill plays up his meathead Bostonian persona but he always has the smartest analysis of movies.
My boy's wicked smaht
It’s a great film but they are just following the book by Cormac McCarthy. He’s the real genius
Exactly.
The screenplay is damn near VERBATIM from the novel.
I named one of my kids after the Coen brothers. They have a lot to answer for.
What did you name em, Joel, Ethan, or Coen?
I named by son after the Wochowski Brothers. Boy did that backfire.
The Coen's worst movie is better than 99.9% of all other directors' best.
No Country was the most scared I've ever been in the movie theater, not in Halloween or Silence of the Lambs way where you're scared by what's happening, but in a 3D way, where I thought Chigurh was going to kill us in the theater. When Llewelyn is running from Chigurh after the hotel shootout and he gets in that guy's car and then Chigurh starts pumping bullets into the car, I ducked so low in my seat. And every subsequent bullet made me duck lower because I thought bullets were going to fly out of the screen and hit me.
That night I was walking up the stairwell at my parents' place and I kept slowing down to try to see around the corner because I thought dude was going to show up.
haha pussy
Ol' Billy Bowl-cut
Was he talking about Jacksonville Oregon?
Call it.
What am I caowlin' on?
read da book -- movie gets it, but there is more great soliloquizing by the sheriff in the book
Bill is right, listen to him at least Ford Motor Company
Wait, he actually thought they were still releasing films on VHS in 2007.
And after wearing out several DVDs he's not sure the title of the film.
To be fair, VHS only stopped the year prior
Of course Burr is right. :)
I'm one of the few who just thinks this is an ok film, nothing special. Miller's Crossing, Lebowski and Fargo I much preferred. The supposed tension in this film wasn't really there for me. Maybe a cliche, but just a slight musical score might've helped a bit. Was hyped to watch it as well. Can't like em all, I suppose
Great movie but a terrible ending
Yep, the only problem with Burr's headcanon there is that it robs Chigurh of any threat or agency if he's just a figment of TLJ's sheriff's memory. And Josh Brolin would have gotten away with the money as well.
Nah cause Brolin's ultimately killed by the Mexicans
But Brolin's character wasn't killed by Chigurh, he was killed in the motel by the Mexican cartel guys that found him through his wife and mother-in-law.
@mrquirky3626 true, but without the delays and interruptions caused by Bardem's character, he would have time to escape with his missus.
Most overrated movie
FOR YOU.
@@rotyler2177 you keep expecting the movie to go somewhere then it just ends
@@JM-cf9xy can you get the chicken crates out of the truck?
@@rotyler2177 dont even know what that means
@@JM-cf9xyyeah it’s supposed to make you feel unsatisfied, that’s part of its brilliance. No Country is a modern western that establishes but then subverts genre rules. It’s about society and the world as a whole changing. It is no longer the country that Tommy Lee Jones knew. Based on my interpretation of your point, the kind of movie you want is the old westerns. You wanted the confrontation to occur between Moss and Chigurgh, but that’s the old world, this is the new one. The movie successfully made you feel cheated of a satisfying conclusion, that was the point. If that upsets you, that’s fine, it’s not a movie for you. But most people love the movie because it’s about that very dissatisfaction. It’s more realistic, sure, but it’s also more thematically resonant to have Moss fail, to have the sheriff fail and accept that the old old world is gone.
No Country is a period peace. There were no ‘84 trucks in the scene because it was 1980. He says how long the coin had been “traveling” and what year was on it in the gas station scene, establishing our year.
He didn't say 84 trucks. He said 1980 ford trucks.
I remember hating this movie when I first saw it just because of the killing of Brolin's character off screen. I'm fine with stories where the main protagonists die, in fact some of my favourite films of all time have tragic endings, but not actually showing the death I felt robbed me of some closure with the character. Although unique, I kept thinking "how do you do that? Is that even proper writing?" It would be like if at the end of Saving Private Ryan ***26 YEAR OLD SPOILER ALERT*** instead of actually seeing Tom Hanks' Captain Miller dying we just get it mentioned in a conversation between Matt Damon and Edward Burns' surviving characters.
Over the years I've rewatched the film many times and came to enjoy it, especially for Javier Bardem who has become one of my favourite and most respected actors, but not being able to see the complete character arch of Moss still bugs me.
Martin Scorsese on " El fontanero, su mujer y otras cosas de meter " ( 1981 ) ?
For people who like good movies NC4OM is terrific. It just subverts your expectations so perfectly.