The criticisms directed at Rachel were mostly inspired by her very insulting comments about the original. But you are right about the costume; my first thought was "Value Village Hallowe'en rack". At least they didn't have her wearing crocs.
You have some insightful comments. The aestetics of this movie could really need some more thought. From what we have seen, it is campy indeed, and not in a good way. We are apparently headed for something full of CGI animals looking far more fake than cute, whereas the protagonist has lost the kindness and innocence of the original to become more of an entitled brat. She invades the home of the dwarfs and starts bossing them around instead of being grateful that they give her shelter. As one commenter put it, this movie is apparently about an upper-class person who thinks of people of another race as her servants. Really progressive, Disney!
Inhumans level writing The Royal family perpetuates a society where people born with inferior DNA by random chance are forced into slavery Velma- twerking over dead body and Inhumans -Medusa - absolute jerk to everyone around her except her family, making you feel sorry for everyone she meets on Earth and has no storyline -Crystal - Super racist towards humans Dumb lacks any critical thinking
I really agree with you on the design overall. There are Renaissance festival outfits that are better than this. If background characters have better outfits than I'm done with Disney istg
0:58 Oh my gosh, you wore the brown dress! I always thought that was cuter/prettier than the blue/yellow princess outfit. Well, except for the patches and the clunky shoes, of course, lol.
@@ChaoticNeutralCosplayer Curious, was there a reason you wore the brown dress? I mean, was it a special occasion or something like that? It just doesn't seem like the people in charge would bother giving the Snow White actress two different costumes (except for the weather changes). I can understand them giving the Belle actress two costumes, since Belle's blue and yellow dresses are equally iconic.
@@Kelaiah01the brown dress in the pic is a costume that I wore to the Halloween party as a guest a long time ago before the special event costumes for the characters were really a thing. There’s a parks official version of the brown dress now that they use for sweethearts night though!
The one thing that I really don't like in the trailer is that most of the scenes are composed as though they were filmed in darkness and out-of-focus. As a result, objects are really hard to see. This is so inappropriate given that it's mostly CGI. It's even true for scenes that should have a bright mood, such as the dancing dwarves scene. Six out of ten.
I think another reason people don’t like Rachel Ziegler is because she had that whole press tour where she was disparaging the original movie. The criticism of her opinions in this has always bugged me because I feel like there’s no way Disney didn’t prepare her with exactly what they wanted her to say. Like, Disney would never cast someone then let them say whatever they want during press tours, and there’s no way she would say something so out of pocket without permission (actors have been fired for less) Idk, in my opinion, if you’re gonna be mad at someone for thinking the og snow white is anti-feminist, be mad at Disney, not Rachel.
Well that's the thing, she had permission because they agree with the notion. So people should be mad a Disney for not censoring Rachel, but letting her speak her mind?
I'm just disappointed that the dwarves are going to be CGI with voiceovers and not real people in costumes and make-up. I know CGI and voiceovers are cheaper, but live actors would look so much better.
agreed on the outfits and dwarfs the outfits need to go and disney needs to hire dwarf actors not cgi nightmares, that will have kids scared for their lives at first the witch scene scares kids in the orignal but these are nightmare fuel.
Could not agree more. I was excited when I heard Zegler cast because I love her voice…BUT. The hair. Why….why…why…why did we have to go with the 30s Bob? This story takes place in the 16th century. No one had hair like that except men. The dress too could have been adapted from that stiff cartoon version to something a bit more organic and flowy. I’m just beyond disappointed in these really decisions that feel really misguided.
Snow White: A Tale of Terror. It's a straight-up retelling of the original story, emphasizing the dark/creepy aspects (the queen really DOES what her stepdaughter dead); that movie needs to be rediscovered, and this would appear to be the time for it!
They could have made the clothes more historical like they do in dramas. But the hair is just awful, I would have been telling everyone “THERE IS NO WAY I AM GOING OUTSIDE WITH THIS HAIRSTYLE “.
Wait, so they re-shot the movie without full sized non-dwarves and switched to cartoons instead of using actual dwarves?! That seems very discriminatory and taking opportunity from the community of little people..
well... nobody wanted seven magical creatures and peter's opinion destroyed his chance to play a role on the movie so they didn't had any little people for the roles.
The weird thing that’s bothered me from the start about this is that Sandy Powell, the designer of the absolutely gorgeous live action Cinderella dress…is also the costume designer on this live action Snow White. I wonder if executive meddling (to be able to sell costumes/merchandise that appeals to children with bright colours) or even the director himself’s vision had a hand in why the dress turned out so uncharacteristically garish; Sandy Powell’s designs are never this gaudy and cheap-looking.
I still think Gennifer Goodwin and Josh Dallas did the best live action snow white and charming available. Not only is it much more true to the original feel and dynamic of the characters, but they are also married in real life... and when they kissed on set in the pilot, it started to majestically snow. lol
Well, there is the 1997 version of Snow White: A Tale of Terror with Sigourney Weaver, which has a much darker tone than the usual fairytale adaptations. No real gothic horror, but still dark fantasy. I liked it. This new version is just disgraceful to the original cartoon and Walt's vision back then. The costumes look super cheap, more like a TV production rather than a 400 million dollar production. The CGI looks weird and sometimes even bad (the cartoony look, which some animals like the deer or the dwarves have may be intentional, but still ... it's a live action remake, right? However, from the teaser we've seen about 80% is CGI, backgrounds included. And when I look at the castle, not even good ones. No details, no ornaments, no flags, no plants, nothing. The overall casting is bad. Rachel Zegler was miscast from the beginning. Her attitude, her mordern, woke way of thinking every female being should be a strong leader, including a princess - nonsense! Snow White is a kind, warmhearted, gentle being, who takes care of others, everyone love her. Rachel's portrait of her - especially during the leaked "Whistle While You Work" clip is absolutely the opposite - she bosses the dwarves around and teaches them how to clean THEIR home. The dwarfs itself behave rather stupid, almost like idiots. They have nothing in common with the loveable and charming characters from the 1937 cartoon. Walt Disney would be ashamed of this remake and I hope, Disney will lose much money with this ... mistake.
What a fair, thoughtful, restrained commentary! I've seen a lot of takes on this teaser trailer recently, and I have to say, if you'll forgive me, that yours is the fairest of them all.
I know I'm probably in the minority but I actually really liked the trailer. I thought it was beautiful and seemed very faithful to the original. What I am concerned about is how much the majority of the film will deviate from the animation when we sit down and actually watch the film. I don't have an issue with them tweaking the original a little but seeing as it's classic disney and the first ever film done by them, it really needs to be quite a faithful re-telling to be respectful and please the crowd. I keep hoping they've secretly done a lot of re-shoots so that happens 🙏
Before we start, I have an amazing Snow White version for you to read, from Neil Gaiman. It’s called Snow, Blood, Glass and it’s from the POV of the Queen. Also, I have a weird question: Disney could have picked anyone to be their Snow White. They have actresses playing her in every park. They have voice actors portraying her. We animators are taught on animation rule developed for this movie. Why did they have to this little nobody who can’t keep her mouth shut for her life?
Oh that sounds like a neat book, I’ll have to check it out! And as far as casting goes: Casting a face character from the park isn’t really a solution, because it requires a totally different skill set than starring in a movie musical. There are a lot of talented folks who do park meet and greets, but just because they look like the character doesn’t mean they can sing, dance, or that they’re the right union status to be considered at an audition for a major film. Another thing is age. Disney’s Snow White is really young. Most people in the right age range to play her are pretty early on in their careers and unestablished. It doesn’t really make sense for Disney to take a chance on an unknown for such a big project when they have Rachel Zegler in the same age range who already was the lead in two successful movie musicals and is the youngest ever golden globe winner for comedy/ musical. Another thing to consider is her singing abilities. The music in Snow White is really hard to sing, and it’s sung in a style that requires a certain vocal type and style that’s sort of uncommon to find nowadays. Rachel Zegler is known for singing in this style really well. I don’t doubt that there are other people on the planet who could also do this role justice, and I get why Rachel may have rubbed some the wrong way. But she’s definitely a qualified performer.
Yellow, in my opinion, is the most powerful feminine colour. A yellow top would have been better but with some contrasring accents like cyan, blue or violet.
Cannon tales had the best version of snow white hands down. If you haven't seen it, I suggest you do. It's the only one that's every felt like a fairy tale. I think you can stream it on tubi or something. But I've had it since I was a kid and nothing has beat it yet
1:00 😮 if they had you in the Movie instead of Rachel Casted as Snow White I would still bite the Bullet on the Movie no matter how bad the Movie is becoming but Rachel? Nope!
nah rachel zegler is really not that adorable now and i understand it’s not all her fault to take this role. the original film is a classic from that time but not perfect in today’s standard esp the character designs i’d only say it’s vintage on the aesthetic level
Hmmm jusy watched the trailer for the first time and I completely agree with you, the whole thinf just feels off, I do like her vocals on it though but thats the only positive O have feom the trailer, but will see what the film brings 🤞
there is already an horror snow white movie, and also one dark movie with sigourney weaver. but yes, i always prefered dark fantasy versions of tales. or at least, a retro pin up aesthetic for snow white, and not this frog hairstyle that rachel have in the trailer. i dont even talk about the cheap dress that seems to be made in china from temu. and the cgi dwarves omg
I remember liking Snow White and the huntsman, and there’s definitely some gothic influence there. But a lot of the gothic inspired costumes still read very modern to me. I was thinking more of a traditionally gothic vibe (like almost Victorian inspired) with some Guillermo Del Toro fantasy vibes thrown in there
Girls never had a clue so many in cel bros living in their mom's basement were so obsessed with and triggered by the Barbie Movie and the Snow White film... until now. We thought these franchises were for little girls, but... apparently, not. You bros have appropriated them like My Little Pony! Now, I don't care if you're a guy who likes Barbie, Snow White, or My Little Pony. That's fine. Live your rainbow. But when it's a whole bunch of guys getting their panties in a wad about changes to these silly silly things made for little girls on the internet, you have to admit, it's kind of comical.
"But when it's a whole bunch of guys getting their panties in a wad about changes to these silly silly things made for little girls on the internet, you have to admit, it's kind of comical". There, a very good observation. I was thinking that too.
We do have a gothic-like Snow White. It's 1997's Snow White: A Tale of Terror. That film is so underrated, and it's fantastic.
I’ve heard of it but never seen it, I’ll have to check it out!
I had to go look up the trailer, despite early youtube quality and the 97 feel. That looks awesome! Why can't we have that?!
I’ve seen this gothic version of Snow White…more Brothers Grim feel to it, but extremely good! Sigourney Weaver did an excellent job as the Queen.
YES!! That version does not get enough credit. Its amazing :) and pretty scary too. Highly recommend to anyone
Memory unlocked! I forgot all about that one.
I have a weird but vivid memory of the scene with the stew?
There's something so human and warm about the original animation.
The criticisms directed at Rachel were mostly inspired by her very insulting comments about the original. But you are right about the costume; my first thought was "Value Village Hallowe'en rack". At least they didn't have her wearing crocs.
You have some insightful comments. The aestetics of this movie could really need some more thought. From what we have seen, it is campy indeed, and not in a good way. We are apparently headed for something full of CGI animals looking far more fake than cute, whereas the protagonist has lost the kindness and innocence of the original to become more of an entitled brat. She invades the home of the dwarfs and starts bossing them around instead of being grateful that they give her shelter. As one commenter put it, this movie is apparently about an upper-class person who thinks of people of another race as her servants. Really progressive, Disney!
Inhumans level writing
The Royal family perpetuates a society where people born with inferior DNA by random chance are forced into slavery
Velma- twerking over dead body
and Inhumans -Medusa - absolute jerk to everyone around her except her family, making you feel sorry for everyone she meets on Earth and has no storyline
-Crystal - Super racist towards humans
Dumb
lacks any critical thinking
I really agree with you on the design overall. There are Renaissance festival outfits that are better than this. If background characters have better outfits than I'm done with Disney istg
Why couldn't we have you as live-action Snow White instead
0:58 Oh my gosh, you wore the brown dress! I always thought that was cuter/prettier than the blue/yellow princess outfit. Well, except for the patches and the clunky shoes, of course, lol.
Oh me too, it’s my favorite! Never got to wear the clogs though lol
@@ChaoticNeutralCosplayer Curious, was there a reason you wore the brown dress? I mean, was it a special occasion or something like that? It just doesn't seem like the people in charge would bother giving the Snow White actress two different costumes (except for the weather changes). I can understand them giving the Belle actress two costumes, since Belle's blue and yellow dresses are equally iconic.
@@Kelaiah01the brown dress in the pic is a costume that I wore to the Halloween party as a guest a long time ago before the special event costumes for the characters were really a thing. There’s a parks official version of the brown dress now that they use for sweethearts night though!
@@ChaoticNeutralCosplayer Awww, that's so sweet! 🥰
I totally agree on the dress, it just feels weirdly bright and harsh at the same time, not done well at all either.
The one thing that I really don't like in the trailer is that most of the scenes are composed as though they were filmed in darkness and out-of-focus. As a result, objects are really hard to see. This is so inappropriate given that it's mostly CGI. It's even true for scenes that should have a bright mood, such as the dancing dwarves scene.
Six out of ten.
How come they didn't call you in? You look pretty much like snow white
""Lips red as the rose, hair black as ebony, skin white as snow"
I think another reason people don’t like Rachel Ziegler is because she had that whole press tour where she was disparaging the original movie. The criticism of her opinions in this has always bugged me because I feel like there’s no way Disney didn’t prepare her with exactly what they wanted her to say. Like, Disney would never cast someone then let them say whatever they want during press tours, and there’s no way she would say something so out of pocket without permission (actors have been fired for less) Idk, in my opinion, if you’re gonna be mad at someone for thinking the og snow white is anti-feminist, be mad at Disney, not Rachel.
Well that's the thing, she had permission because they agree with the notion. So people should be mad a Disney for not censoring Rachel, but letting her speak her mind?
I'm just disappointed that the dwarves are going to be CGI with voiceovers and not real people in costumes and make-up. I know CGI and voiceovers are cheaper, but live actors would look so much better.
agreed on the outfits and dwarfs the outfits need to go and disney needs to hire dwarf actors not cgi nightmares, that will have kids scared for their lives at first the witch scene scares kids in the orignal but these are nightmare fuel.
they need to hire two actresses to fill in the roles of snow white and the evil queen that will be much better.
5:40 and the same designer
The dress did not have enough blue or red to justify that yellow
The kid’s costumes are way better
The makeup and costuming departments on this movie did Rachel dirty.
Could not agree more. I was excited when I heard Zegler cast because I love her voice…BUT.
The hair. Why….why…why…why did we have to go with the 30s Bob? This story takes place in the 16th century. No one had hair like that except men. The dress too could have been adapted from that stiff cartoon version to something a bit more organic and flowy. I’m just beyond disappointed in these really decisions that feel really misguided.
It isn't even really the 30's bob. The 30's bob had more lightness and volume to it.
I wanna know what the heck the red things are at the end of her sleeves.
Snow White: A Tale of Terror. It's a straight-up retelling of the original story, emphasizing the dark/creepy aspects (the queen really DOES what her stepdaughter dead); that movie needs to be rediscovered, and this would appear to be the time for it!
snow white 1937 is the best
You totally look like Snow White. Perfect casting.
They could have made the clothes more historical like they do in dramas. But the hair is just awful, I would have been telling everyone “THERE IS NO WAY I AM GOING OUTSIDE WITH THIS HAIRSTYLE “.
Wait, so they re-shot the movie without full sized non-dwarves and switched to cartoons instead of using actual dwarves?! That seems very discriminatory and taking opportunity from the community of little people..
well... nobody wanted seven magical creatures and peter's opinion destroyed his chance to play a role on the movie so they didn't had any little people for the roles.
The weird thing that’s bothered me from the start about this is that Sandy Powell, the designer of the absolutely gorgeous live action Cinderella dress…is also the costume designer on this live action Snow White. I wonder if executive meddling (to be able to sell costumes/merchandise that appeals to children with bright colours) or even the director himself’s vision had a hand in why the dress turned out so uncharacteristically garish; Sandy Powell’s designs are never this gaudy and cheap-looking.
Right? It’s really sus
I still think Gennifer Goodwin and Josh Dallas did the best live action snow white and charming available. Not only is it much more true to the original feel and dynamic of the characters, but they are also married in real life... and when they kissed on set in the pilot, it started to majestically snow. lol
Well, there is the 1997 version of Snow White: A Tale of Terror with Sigourney Weaver, which has a much darker tone than the usual fairytale adaptations. No real gothic horror, but still dark fantasy. I liked it. This new version is just disgraceful to the original cartoon and Walt's vision back then. The costumes look super cheap, more like a TV production rather than a 400 million dollar production. The CGI looks weird and sometimes even bad (the cartoony look, which some animals like the deer or the dwarves have may be intentional, but still ... it's a live action remake, right? However, from the teaser we've seen about 80% is CGI, backgrounds included. And when I look at the castle, not even good ones. No details, no ornaments, no flags, no plants, nothing.
The overall casting is bad. Rachel Zegler was miscast from the beginning. Her attitude, her mordern, woke way of thinking every female being should be a strong leader, including a princess - nonsense! Snow White is a kind, warmhearted, gentle being, who takes care of others, everyone love her. Rachel's portrait of her - especially during the leaked "Whistle While You Work" clip is absolutely the opposite - she bosses the dwarves around and teaches them how to clean THEIR home. The dwarfs itself behave rather stupid, almost like idiots. They have nothing in common with the loveable and charming characters from the 1937 cartoon. Walt Disney would be ashamed of this remake and I hope, Disney will lose much money with this ... mistake.
I think this is more AI generated than CGI.
What a fair, thoughtful, restrained commentary! I've seen a lot of takes on this teaser trailer recently, and I have to say, if you'll forgive me, that yours is the fairest of them all.
this is so sweet, thank you!
I know I'm probably in the minority but I actually really liked the trailer. I thought it was beautiful and seemed very faithful to the original. What I am concerned about is how much the majority of the film will deviate from the animation when we sit down and actually watch the film. I don't have an issue with them tweaking the original a little but seeing as it's classic disney and the first ever film done by them, it really needs to be quite a faithful re-telling to be respectful and please the crowd. I keep hoping they've secretly done a lot of re-shoots so that happens 🙏
They need time be all live or all cg characters
Before we start, I have an amazing Snow White version for you to read, from Neil Gaiman. It’s called Snow, Blood, Glass and it’s from the POV of the Queen.
Also, I have a weird question:
Disney could have picked anyone to be their Snow White. They have actresses playing her in every park. They have voice actors portraying her. We animators are taught on animation rule developed for this movie.
Why did they have to this little nobody who can’t keep her mouth shut for her life?
Oh that sounds like a neat book, I’ll have to check it out!
And as far as casting goes:
Casting a face character from the park isn’t really a solution, because it requires a totally different skill set than starring in a movie musical. There are a lot of talented folks who do park meet and greets, but just because they look like the character doesn’t mean they can sing, dance, or that they’re the right union status to be considered at an audition for a major film.
Another thing is age. Disney’s Snow White is really young. Most people in the right age range to play her are pretty early on in their careers and unestablished. It doesn’t really make sense for Disney to take a chance on an unknown for such a big project when they have Rachel Zegler in the same age range who already was the lead in two successful movie musicals and is the youngest ever golden globe winner for comedy/ musical.
Another thing to consider is her singing abilities. The music in Snow White is really hard to sing, and it’s sung in a style that requires a certain vocal type and style that’s sort of uncommon to find nowadays. Rachel Zegler is known for singing in this style really well.
I don’t doubt that there are other people on the planet who could also do this role justice, and I get why Rachel may have rubbed some the wrong way. But she’s definitely a qualified performer.
Yellow, in my opinion, is the most powerful feminine colour. A yellow top would have been better but with some contrasring accents like cyan, blue or violet.
is uncanny how u look like my stepsister, i clicked the video thinking it was her , very impressive
I didn't care about Rachel it's just all those interviews have a really bad vibe and i thought melefisant was the snow white i liked
Remember Cinderella omg that was well done
I refuse to see the film, because the trailer looked dull, lifeless and the CGI looked unappealing.
Cannon tales had the best version of snow white hands down. If you haven't seen it, I suggest you do. It's the only one that's every felt like a fairy tale. I think you can stream it on tubi or something. But I've had it since I was a kid and nothing has beat it yet
1:00 😮 if they had you in the Movie instead of Rachel Casted as Snow White I would still bite the Bullet on the Movie no matter how bad the Movie is becoming but Rachel? Nope!
But there is a darker more gothic version of snow white, it's called snow white and the huntsman.
nah rachel zegler is really not that adorable now and i understand it’s not all her fault to take this role. the original film is a classic from that time but not perfect in today’s standard esp the character designs i’d only say it’s vintage on the aesthetic level
I agree a gothic Snow White would be very cool to see!! Also I have the same hooks in the back from Target 😂😂
omg haha they’re so handy aren’t they?
@@ChaoticNeutralCosplayer Yes they're the best!!!
lol look at you defending Racheal Z. enjoy the heat.
Hmmm jusy watched the trailer for the first time and I completely agree with you, the whole thinf just feels off, I do like her vocals on it though but thats the only positive O have feom the trailer, but will see what the film brings 🤞
there is already an horror snow white movie, and also one dark movie with sigourney weaver. but yes, i always prefered dark fantasy versions of tales. or at least, a retro pin up aesthetic for snow white, and not this frog hairstyle that rachel have in the trailer. i dont even talk about the cheap dress that seems to be made in china from temu. and the cgi dwarves omg
well... there is a gothic Snow White - "Snow white and the huntsman"! Or you don't like it very much?
I remember liking Snow White and the huntsman, and there’s definitely some gothic influence there. But a lot of the gothic inspired costumes still read very modern to me. I was thinking more of a traditionally gothic vibe (like almost Victorian inspired) with some Guillermo Del Toro fantasy vibes thrown in there
Movie looks FAKE.
Girls never had a clue so many in cel bros living in their mom's basement were so obsessed with and triggered by the Barbie Movie and the Snow White film... until now.
We thought these franchises were for little girls, but... apparently, not. You bros have appropriated them like My Little Pony!
Now, I don't care if you're a guy who likes Barbie, Snow White, or My Little Pony. That's fine. Live your rainbow.
But when it's a whole bunch of guys getting their panties in a wad about changes to these silly silly things made for little girls on the internet, you have to admit, it's kind of comical.
"But when it's a whole bunch of guys getting their panties in a wad about changes to these silly silly things made for little girls on the internet, you have to admit, it's kind of comical".
There, a very good observation. I was thinking that too.
Snow does have a great looking dress. A movie does not need to be perfect. We should love movies even if there are flaws.
We don't have to love any movie, but if you are excited about Snow White live action then that's valid!
Rachel Zegler doesn’t deserve any of the hate she’s getting playing Snow White she’ll be the best Snow White we’ve ever had