Bonham had that funk that always eludes and surprises. Just when you think you’ve got the pattern down for one of his beats, he puts a groovy spin on it to better serve the song. His bass foot dynamics are insane here and add so much!
A lot of drummers thought that Bonzo was busier on this track-there’s a lot of space here. He occasionally does a quick double on the kick drum but he is generally sparse. What I learned early on (because I also play bass) is the muted thumping that JPJ does on the low E string. If you listen carefully, he does a “Mark King” style muted bass slap in the first part of the measure that sounds like a gallop, then bangs out a low E, and then proceeds to mute again but does a palm mute and picks the gallop sound with his first finger-it’s a subtle change but it blends so well with the drum part that they are one huge rhythm section. The muted thumb slap and palm muted pluck of the low E is pure JPJ GENIUS. This is why they sounded so amazing together-that chemistry to lock in or let loose or allow the other to let loose is unparalleled in rock music and often overlooked. Bands of today need to listen to this and learn from this. It wasn’t all about Bonzo on this track-Jonesy was playing his heart out alongside him, and they listened to one another and gracefully conversed musically and rhythmically.
I couldn't have said it better, Michael! I think that's spot on to all of Zeppelin's catalog. Jonesy added so much color and thump to what Bonzo played, and on this track especially! It's understandable why so many people think Bonham is doing more with his kick here - Jones is so amazingly locked in and driving the song, as well as the bass dominating the mix over the kick, but it's mainly a true testament to two hearts beating as one; every rhythm section should aspire to what these two had together...
"A lot of drummers thought that Bonzo was busier on this track" I think a good example of this would be Heart's Michael DeRosier on the song "Barracuda." Fortunately for him, that song isn't 10:26 long though 😃
Holy cow! I could have sworn he was doing double 16ths on the kick on the 1st and 3rd. Phew! I was practicing that to no end and was very disappointed I could not keep that kind of tempo for very long. And 9:03 is when the freight train really starts rolling.
That's what I'm talking about! I know JPJ's bass part sort of blends in with the kick pattern, and it's easy to think the two are one in the same. It's invaluable hearing his drums on their own for how much space / groove his approach allows for! As impressive as it would be if he were throwing in those doubles as part of every phrase, it's tough not to think the song might feel a little more rigid if Bonham and Jones were playing the same thing throughout. Instead, I dig how Jones drives the song with the bass, and Bonham gets to push and pull like a battering ram...
@@KickItLikeBonham Years ago I heard one of the (at that time) rare bootlegs of a live version of Achillies… and he was doing singles with a few doubles thrown in. I just figured he was preserving energy because of it being a live show. Thank you for posting this up!
Hands Down, The Best Drummer For Me. Recording took Two Takes on the album and it was Perfection. They'll never be another like John Henry Bonham ✌️💞🎶🙏
This actually is Bonham. I used an AI program that's able to isolate individual instruments from songs. It's not perfect (yet), so any loss of beef is probably due to some digital artifacts that still exist from taking the drums away from the other instruments.
Ha, ha! I think about all the talent that's left this world, and I have to think that we're missing out on some of the greatest music the afterlife has ever known!
What's really interesting to me is how much space there is for such an intense song, like the bass drum has far less doubles than I thought it had from just the regular track - this tool is amazing!
I was thinking that too. Doubles that I thought werr the bass drum are Jones on bass and his percussive style on this. Played with a pick. Its amazing. Then the amazing thing is, Bonzo's bass drum work around 9 minutes. Proves he can do all the doubles he wants. And then some. WTF? Where did these people come from. Maybe he died cause he had to back to his planet cause they needed him again. And they(aliens) just lent him to Zeppelin for a while.
That's because it's a Ludwig Supraphonic and they're notorious for it. I have an early 70's model and if I'm playing anything with rim shots I will have to tighten the tension rod directly under the hit spot after every other song. It's worth the battle for the sound.
Always the best for me. Who can toucj hos feel and ability to space out hos playomg and sync wirh jpj. Guys like Danny Carey from Tool are always talked about but he is not on this level of playing.
A lot of it depends on the style of music being played, but you're definitely on to something - I don't think anyone has ever approached guitar heavy music with so much Motown and R&B influence. Bonham is more or less playing an entirely different genre than the heavy/classic/blues rock that Zeppelin is categorized into. You want dynamics, and you've gotta be able to float on the beat like a feather, not just bash the hell out of the drums.
Whew . This is great. I just came from a lame ass blog about how great Hal Blaine was at everything including rock. LMAO.Oh and whoever is in the "his son is as good as he was" camp is lame too
Aye! You can definitely hear the foundation of everything he did live here, but it is interesting to see where he decided to take chances live, versus some of the more complicated bits he does here in the studio version, but not live. Always a risk taker that Bonham!
@@KickItLikeBonham he was on fire in 1977. And while he never made to many mistakes, the ones I have heard on soundboards were really BAD elementary mistakes. If you listen to Houston 5/22/1977 during Sick Again... he screws up his own drum break, the part where he plays the fast triplets starting with the snare drum, then moving through each his toms playing those same fast triplets... He somehow ended up bring off an entire measure, which is something you wouldn't expect from him. But the really complicated stuff he did... he always nailed it. Like his drum break during Achilles Last Stand that isn't on he album. He always managed to nail that part
You can hear them in parts, and then other times, it blends with the sound artifacts that still exist in the A.I. algorithm. I'm hoping in another few years, it'll be even better!
The mighty arms of "BONZO"
Hold the heavens from the earth...👍
Ha, ha! That's what I'm talking about!
Bonham had that funk that always eludes and surprises. Just when you think you’ve got the pattern down for one of his beats, he puts a groovy spin on it to better serve the song. His bass foot dynamics are insane here and add so much!
And then on top of all that his base player is John Paul Jones.. What!!!!! what a combo.
Zeppelin had a drummer most bands would have killed for
Dude this song is a drumming marathon
No one could’ve ever replaced John Bonham. Probably the most imitated musician of all time. Nobody has ever come close. Amazing talent and grove.
FACT!
Morgan Rose of Sevendust.
Morgan Rose? Naaah…
Groove too!
A lot of drummers thought that Bonzo was busier on this track-there’s a lot of space here. He occasionally does a quick double on the kick drum but he is generally sparse. What I learned early on (because I also play bass) is the muted thumping that JPJ does on the low E string. If you listen carefully, he does a “Mark King” style muted bass slap in the first part of the measure that sounds like a gallop, then bangs out a low E, and then proceeds to mute again but does a palm mute and picks the gallop sound with his first finger-it’s a subtle change but it blends so well with the drum part that they are one huge rhythm section. The muted thumb slap and palm muted pluck of the low E is pure JPJ GENIUS. This is why they sounded so amazing together-that chemistry to lock in or let loose or allow the other to let loose is unparalleled in rock music and often overlooked. Bands of today need to listen to this and learn from this. It wasn’t all about Bonzo on this track-Jonesy was playing his heart out alongside him, and they listened to one another and gracefully conversed musically and rhythmically.
I couldn't have said it better, Michael! I think that's spot on to all of Zeppelin's catalog. Jonesy added so much color and thump to what Bonzo played, and on this track especially! It's understandable why so many people think Bonham is doing more with his kick here - Jones is so amazingly locked in and driving the song, as well as the bass dominating the mix over the kick, but it's mainly a true testament to two hearts beating as one; every rhythm section should aspire to what these two had together...
It was all done with a pick, rather than thumb and finger
Well-stated. You have a good ear.
Two Gods playing together
"A lot of drummers thought that Bonzo was busier on this track"
I think a good example of this would be Heart's Michael DeRosier on the song "Barracuda." Fortunately for him, that song isn't 10:26 long though 😃
Holy cow! I could have sworn he was doing double 16ths on the kick on the 1st and 3rd. Phew! I was practicing that to no end and was very disappointed I could not keep that kind of tempo for very long. And 9:03 is when the freight train really starts rolling.
I heard that too
Wonderful comment!
That's what I'm talking about! I know JPJ's bass part sort of blends in with the kick pattern, and it's easy to think the two are one in the same. It's invaluable hearing his drums on their own for how much space / groove his approach allows for! As impressive as it would be if he were throwing in those doubles as part of every phrase, it's tough not to think the song might feel a little more rigid if Bonham and Jones were playing the same thing throughout. Instead, I dig how Jones drives the song with the bass, and Bonham gets to push and pull like a battering ram...
I agree!!!
@@KickItLikeBonham Years ago I heard one of the (at that time) rare bootlegs of a live version of Achillies… and he was doing singles with a few doubles thrown in. I just figured he was preserving energy because of it being a live show. Thank you for posting this up!
That gallop!! Relentless.
There is always something else going on that you pick up.
Yeah it's got a shuffle vibe but clearly isn't (?)
I like No Quarter but I like how John Paul Jones plays the organ. And I like Moby Dick. And I also like The Rain Song.
Absolute juggernaut of a man. It feels like you're being pummeled against the ropes by a really powerful, funky, groovy heavyweight champion.
Still my favorite Zep tune.
Good pick
This one and No Quarter.
For me, these two stand out as the best ones.
Mine too.
No one will ever come close 🥁 🤴
He really was a freight train of technique, tuning, ingenuity, and brilliant production!
Hands Down, The Best Drummer For Me.
Recording took Two Takes on the album and it was Perfection.
They'll never be another like
John Henry Bonham ✌️💞🎶🙏
Fact!
Love what you wrote because it's the truth no wonder they couldn't continue .
Bonzo's groove alone makes you want to dance. No wonder Led Zeppelin are so good
That's what I'm talking about!!!
The goat
Bonham is a legend
That's a fact!!! I completely agree!
Bass drum sound like a battering ram against the castle gate.
Nice one - pretty similar to Bonham. A little more beef and you're there man!
This actually is Bonham. I used an AI program that's able to isolate individual instruments from songs. It's not perfect (yet), so any loss of beef is probably due to some digital artifacts that still exist from taking the drums away from the other instruments.
It is when you listen to this that you realise why God needed him in his celestial band.
Ha, ha! I think about all the talent that's left this world, and I have to think that we're missing out on some of the greatest music the afterlife has ever known!
And Here I thought I could play that one 😂. Nope.
You gotta do the wanton song or carouselambra
That was totally insane. Mind-blowing
Right?!?! That's what I'm talking about!
Love it Bonham was the heartbeat of Zeppelin.
I couldn't agree more! He had his own center of gravity that the other three were grounded in...
I'm just LISTENING!! to it and I can't make sense of it, let alone try to play it. TOTAL BADASS!!!🤟
Zeppelin was a funk band at times!
Listen at 75% speed for an absolute beefcake of a funk groove
What's really interesting to me is how much space there is for such an intense song, like the bass drum has far less doubles than I thought it had from just the regular track - this tool is amazing!
I was thinking that too. Doubles that I thought werr the bass drum are Jones on bass and his percussive style on this. Played with a pick. Its amazing. Then the amazing thing is, Bonzo's bass drum work around 9 minutes. Proves he can do all the doubles he wants. And then some. WTF? Where did these people come from. Maybe he died cause he had to back to his planet cause they needed him again. And they(aliens) just lent him to Zeppelin for a while.
Can't get over that snare sound...So good! I love how you can hear the head detune oh so slightly throughout the song from all that bash ahah
I didn’t think I’d notice that, but I do! That’s awesome haha
That's because it's a Ludwig Supraphonic and they're notorious for it. I have an early 70's model and if I'm playing anything with rim shots I will have to tighten the tension rod directly under the hit spot after every other song. It's worth the battle for the sound.
i can do that thing at the end. The very end. With the two cymbal crashes. I cant do the other stuff
😂😂😂
AWESOME!!!!
THE MIGHTY BONZO AT HIS BEST
Phenomenal....thanks for posting!!
You're a beast! Bonham is surely smiling upon this video 🙂
The isolated drum track on R&R (BassDrum) is mind blowing. Everyone has been playing it wrong for 50 years.
Hope you put that one up.
Yes, lots of 8th notes
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@@masterballs8571 Yeah, maybe the tracks Derek's putting up will bring out the bass even more.
I agree. The bass drum leads the charge …
Can't hear him yelling and grunting. The engineer must have been thrilled.
Does it kind of sound like holy wars … punishment due drum track
5:14 - He's hitting both crash cymbals at the same time between the snare fills.
Secret sauce of Led Zeppelin Jones and Bonham!
Came here for 2:18
YAAAAAA’!!!!!! I don’t know exactly how he got all those crashes in and after oh n!n
Oh 30 years of listening to it, it still boggles my mind. To me, it is the greatest fill ever.
Derrick glade to see you are still at it. I've been waiting for some new stuff from you.
The Master
Testify!
Wow good job with this isolation 👍
AI
@@myusernameisthisduh everyone knows that. This Achilles was an early Moises post
Did you eq the track at all? I love Moises but on a lot of songs, extracting the drum track isn't as clean as I'd like, even with the update.
Incredible! Absolutely incredible.
He's One of the BEST ALL TIME... What a price he's PAID ⚠️🤔✍️Do all spells have to be Broken and PAID in FULL...
Right?!?! Well said!
Isn't this astonishing?
Yes it is
THIS IS AMAZING
Try replication that on a drum machine. Have fun.
Ha, ha! Testify!
I'm not a drummer but this seems like it would be very difficult to play, especially those lightning fast snare fills.
It's actually the constant 16th notes on the high hat that will beat you up.
@@steve4321able I bet!
This was always my workout song , by the time you finish , your fully warmed up !!!
That's what I'm talking about!
Always the best for me. Who can toucj hos feel and ability to space out hos playomg and sync wirh jpj. Guys like Danny Carey from Tool are always talked about but he is not on this level of playing.
A lot of it depends on the style of music being played, but you're definitely on to something - I don't think anyone has ever approached guitar heavy music with so much Motown and R&B influence. Bonham is more or less playing an entirely different genre than the heavy/classic/blues rock that Zeppelin is categorized into. You want dynamics, and you've gotta be able to float on the beat like a feather, not just bash the hell out of the drums.
I my mind I see a train thundering down the track. Relentless and rhythmic.
Whew . This is great. I just came from a lame ass blog about how great Hal Blaine was at everything including rock. LMAO.Oh and whoever is in the "his son is as good as he was" camp is lame too
Ha, ha! You seem to be a man of strong opinions! Thank you for sharing them. Hopefully, they'll start a conversation...
@@KickItLikeBonham They should. But mass hypnosis is hard to break.
Someone once phrased his playing this song as “ beating the crap out of his drums as if it owes him money”
😂😂😂 The most tried-and-true approach to drums ever!
i always wanted to hear an isolated four sticks.
This is nothing compared tk the way he played this song in live situations
Aye! You can definitely hear the foundation of everything he did live here, but it is interesting to see where he decided to take chances live, versus some of the more complicated bits he does here in the studio version, but not live. Always a risk taker that Bonham!
@@KickItLikeBonham he was on fire in 1977. And while he never made to many mistakes, the ones I have heard on soundboards were really BAD elementary mistakes. If you listen to Houston 5/22/1977 during Sick Again... he screws up his own drum break, the part where he plays the fast triplets starting with the snare drum, then moving through each his toms playing those same fast triplets...
He somehow ended up bring off an entire measure, which is something you wouldn't expect from him. But the really complicated stuff he did... he always nailed it. Like his drum break during Achilles Last Stand that isn't on he album. He always managed to nail that part
@@chuckshartz2722 remember that at that point he was HAMMERED before every show because if he wasn’t he would have a panic attack.
Home alone and have this cranked. I feel like JHB is in my house playing just for me 8)
Awesome, such a great drummer.
I completely agree! I'm glad you dig it, William! Thanks so much for the comment!
Keep these coming. This stuff is great
Thank you John
Until the end of time! That man has given us countless gifts!
@@KickItLikeBonham My decision to buy drums was inspired by John. Would like to get back to playing them. Neighbors...
oooh to next hear Jonsey's chugging chick a chick 8 string in the clear.....
Kick drum beat down from hell... I love it!!
This is awesome thankyou
Can you post Tea For One?..always intrigued by his drumming on that, especially the rolls.
Man!!! Your insane bro!!!!! That sounded just like the recording!!! Bravo 👏
This is from the album recording with technology to cut out all the other layers of the track.
@@samgamblewhite8600 right on!!!! That’s awesome, thanks 🙏
Hammer of the Gods
That's what I'm talking about!
Haha man you answered my request, thanks!
DUDE…I freaking LOVE this channel!
Is the “stairway” fill the same general idea as the Rock & Roll ending? Herta?
Exceptional mate. ❤️
sounds great! thanks for posting...
Achilles Last Stand is so cool OMGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spectacular!
Pretty cool wish it picked up his ghost strokes tho
You can hear them in parts, and then other times, it blends with the sound artifacts that still exist in the A.I. algorithm. I'm hoping in another few years, it'll be even better!
awesome video! Have to ask, do you have a favorite kit? If so, what's your favorite kit and why? Thanks
Excellent! but massively crushed cymbals? - what's the source? :)
It's the original album track with software used to remove the other instruments. The software might remove some of the range of drum/cymbal sounds
Wonderful, thanks!!
I assume you're not getting youtube copyright notices which makes this eligible for revenue. Seems like a smart move.
Showbiz Cheatchet bring me here.
The lick at 2:17 is the shit!!!!
FACT! I'm glad it can even elicit a response from a cold-blooded killer like Anton Chigurh.
Incredible stuff. ✊ Thankful
R.I.P to that drum kit
Fantastic 💥💥💥💥
That's what I'm saying! Fantastic, indeed!
Thanks for the video 👍🔥
The feel that's what he had most
Mae buenísimo el groove!
1:04
Did he have some sort of Phaze shifter going to his cymbals?
🎩
There goes Bonzo, puttin' on the Ritz!