Very Different! - Force Protector Gear (FPG) - Military Field Blanket and Tarp System - FOR97
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- Today Luke is discussing a very interesting Tarp that initially was a military product that has since been altered to become a civilian overlanding tarp!
This is the Force Protector Gear Military Field Blanket and Tarp System....
It's very interesting and also, VERY expensive for what it is.
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Force Protector Gear - Military Field Blanket and Tarp System - FOR97
What it is : two-layer ThermaShield Field Blankets. Due to its light weight, symmetrical shape, and sheer performance, the FOR97 is the go-to if camouflage is not needed. With thousands in service this Field Blanket has protected soldiers and saved lives on the battlefields and made camping and adventures here at home a cozy endeavor. Attach it to your vehicle, make a hide, or keep warm by the fire making S'mores. The choice is yours.
The US Military describes this as follows : An item used to pack the camouflage screen system or camouflage support system for movement and storage
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Field Blanket Stats :
Price : Retail $400 - $394 to be exact.
With this being a military product, you can find it for a lot less as surplus. I paid $80 for mine.
NSN : 1080-01-644-8198
Field Blanket Dimensions: 112” L x 72” W
Total Weight: 3lbs 10oz
Pouch Dimensions: 10.5” L x 7” W x 2.5” D
Pouch Capacity: 184 cubic inches (3 liters)
1000D Cordura
FPG DesertCloth
FPG Reflectec
FPG SmartClips
Water resistant YKK Zipper
Military Grade Snaps, Hook and Loop, and Thread
Versions :
There is a Multicam version of this product, it is the FOR112.
There are other versions of this blanket including a 3 layer version and a X-Lite version.
There are also civilian versions of this product that are called shade panels - I will be honest, the FPG site is a mess, it is confusing and the company needs to do a better job of explaining what these products are and how they are different. I’ve noticed that for shade panels, they are often called field blankets and there are other issues which make trying to figure out what you are looking at confusing.
Features :
Finding clear information about what Thermashield does isn’t as straight forward as it should be; the links on the FPG don’t work and they don’t actually come out and say what it does which I find to be weird.
Thermashield according to the claims that I have seen elsewhere online state this;
heat reflecting capability makes chilly sporting events nice and cozy in the stands.
Make a shelter at the beach or protect your family in emergencies, both winter and summer.
Makes great stand-alone shelter when camping or to reduce the temperature in your tent.
Coyote DesertCloth® on one side, Reflectec® (silver) on the other.
Lives by the ThermaShield family tenants which are: Keep you warm when it’s cold. Cool when it’s hot. Dry when it’s wet.
The most impressive aspect to this material that isn’t made obvious is that it prevents radiant heat from coming through the material so if you set this up as a sun shade, the Thermashield reflects the heat of the sun instead of allowing radiant heat to come through the material like a normal tarp or sun shade.
12x Gromolon anchoring and pole attachment points
4xSmartClips with "Quiet Housings" for no-knot fixing to objects or vehicles
12x double sided MILSPEC snaps for attachment to multiple blankets
Fire resistant to CPAI-84
100% UV blocking
Wind proof
Highly water resistant
Hook and Loop I.D. placements
Effective treatment for shock during the Golden Hour of transport
Reduces cold injuries
Reduces heat injuries
Stand-alone shelter/shade
Vehicle based shelter/shade
Expedient litter
Thermal signature mitigation
Modular : Blankets can be snapped together making shelter size as needed.
Berry Amendment Compliant
Lifetime Manufacturer's Warranty
Made in the USA
Pouch:
Pouch is the FOR88.
Compatible with MOLLE or PALS attachment systems
Simple divider can separate contents
Drain hole in the bottom for maritime use
Sturdy water resistant YKK Zipper with 550 Para Cord pull.
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I have a few of these that were issued to me 12 years ago in Afghanistan. I absolutely love them. I have used them as awnings, shelters, and blankets to stay warm.
I think I'll stay with my 15'x15' Aqua Defender. I make a similar set up, but put the suction cups on the passenger side, loop the guide lines thru my roof rack, then set up the tarp covering the drivers side and doors, so if it rains, the water doesn't drip down the doors, so I can open them without getting water inside my SUV. Yes, it doesn't block the UV as much, but I use layers, my tent and such.
I agree. I'll do the same.
I use an Arcturus tarp ... 8.5 x 12 feet. Heavy duty and aluminized Mylar on one side. I has lasted for a couple years of frequent use and for $45 is outstanding.
I use it with suction cups as well.
The price sounds better.
Luke here is a thought/challenge for you. Use a mylar emergency/space blanket under your current tarp and it does the same thing. I have done this and it is much cheaper a d lighter. More bang for you your dollar. Give it a try and let me know what you think.
That's pretty nifty! Will have to keep a look out for one of those tarps and those suction cups. thanks for sharing this...
Good afternoon Luke and Susan thank you for sharing your adventures with me
Hi Luke. I love military gear, but this is too pricey. However, I think the set up is fantastic. Gotta admit, I have never thought of the suction cups. Brilliant, and to those who also thought of. I will buy a pair or two.
Thanks.
I've been using bungee ball ties onto the roof bars of our van,.... but suction cups allows for better placement, so I'm off to order a set.
I Save $200 ( or more) and use thermal blanket without the useless “canvas”‘layers. Works well for sun and rain. May be weaker in strong winds, but haven’t had a problem yet. I bungee to roof rack. I’m cheap
Thank you Luke for another awesome review. I've been watching your reviews on tarps a lot lately because I've finally got one of my own. I really appreciate the variety of ways you demonstrate how to use them. Thanks again for all you do!
Start to finish. Good review. I've bought many sunshade tarps and all allow radiant heat. Sounds like a great product.
Luke great review. I have a large one and a small one as well love them. Also have three poles for the mandatory the guy lines and stakes all this came with the one I have. Love using them as a over cover over the tent makes the tent much cooler on summer time trips. However as you stated they are heavy and there reserve them to car camping trips only
Good to have this kind of tarp, in the truck. The suction cups are a great idea too. All tarps will degrade when exposed to UV, wind and weather. We all know that. The thick cotton canvas, layered with the insulation, may last a bit longer. You’re right about the price. Thanks for sharing. Kentucky
$80 maybe. $400 no way!! I found commound brand sunshade type tarps on Amazon for $20 that work really well. I was truly impressed with it. Left it up through wind and rain and 100 degree days.
I like this tarp/ awning better than a fixed awning on the side of your vehicle. It’s much more modular and lightweight.
those quick connect corners look really handy!
Pretty cool tarp. But I do believe I stick with my lightweight nylon tarp. BUT, those suction cups!! Never saw those before, and I will be ordering a pair to stick inside my truck for whatever!! Thanks Luke!
Put a mylar blanket between 2 tarps for 20 dollars?
even if you put mylar between 2 Aquaquest tarps of similar size it would prob cost less than half what these do and would prob last as long or longer.
This seems like a product designed, in part to defeat thermal weapon sights. Hence the cost. A soldier could set up a tent with this pitched directly over and be invisible to enemy drones and such.
They still see your bonfires and hot coals
@@missingremote4388 Well, with military camps, pretty sure that they don’t have fires of any kind, especially if they are in hostile territory.
Hi Luke, those suction cup Holder Oners seem a pretty good invention. By the way that tarp can withstand a direct hit of up to a 20-megaton nuclear explosion. The military use tough materials that is GI Proof. Sounds like it needs spray-on waterproofing and UV protection sprayed on from time to time. Plus, I'd prefer a 12 X 12-footer. I'd pay maybe up to $100 clams for a 12 X 12 with the suction cups, but then I am the type that will pick up a penny if I find one on the ground.
Outstanding review, Luke. Very candid & informative. Strength and honor.
Thanks so much my friend!! There are a lot to learn in your videos for beginner like me. The way you keep it simple is great.
One of the only videos I've saw where it's sunny lol 😂
You put an interesting take on the meaning of the label. I read that to mean "Hey, don't set this up as a permanent shelter or car shade or it will degrade." That makes perfect sense to me to stop people from abusing their gear then whinging wanting a refund because they have unrealistic expectations.
Mylar blankets have been tested against thermal cameras in improvised observatories to great success.
Maybe that's why the videos got taken down.
Deja vu...I seem to remember you doing this item before, I only remember because I was eyeing one for the surplus price.
The and its UV light is quite destructive to many materials. It makes sense to me that a tarp left in the sun for a quite extended time would deteriorate... eventually ripping under tension.
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I AGREE WITH YOU 💯
You are spot on regarding their ridiculous website data. Too much info equates to nothing but questions.
Thank you for your work.
I will likely use these vacuum clips on my Forester with the 4x4 tarp
Brilliant idea with the suction cups! So many uses. Expensive tarps though.
Have you ever checked the DD 3x3 tarp. 9’ x9’ about $65.
Interesting. I love my surplus items. Look forward to your full review.
On my (faux) Prinsu rack I mounted 2 of the quick release shovel and axe holders, the ones the forest service uses. I have 2 PVC pipes that telescope into each other. I bought a10X10 heavy denier tarp, set of tent poles and locking pins from Amazon. I had the awning deployed in 15 to 20 mph winds at land between the lakes and it held up amazingly. Very nice place to be in the blazing sun. I think I spent $80 bucks on the whole set up. That is too small for 2 people and I could have got 3 or 4 under mine. Very cool concept though.
i have this . it was given to me when i got to my first unit back in 2013
I like how things are marketed for certain types of camper. Force Protector! While shortly I will be using my Escapist tarp to escape the city hell scape I’m surrounded by.
I like the suction cups
I think that I would rather buy 2 Aquaquest Defended tarps of similar size and put a piece of mylar between them for less than half the price of these. It would probably last at least as long and would be just as functional.
Just wanted to mention that I did go to the New Zealand based “abcamping”channel that Luke recommended and found it interesting although his vids are very long at 2-3 hrs. Also interesting is the Japan based “Coupy Channel” channel. He camps in a very small camper and his most recent vid is a review of a stealth camper built on a Toyota chassis sold in Japan. You will have to enable English subtitles.
I’m more interested in those suction cup anchors.
Great idea on the suction cups ordered the right away
Great video! I’m looking to get a tarp too. I’m now considering suction cups after this video. What kind are they? I tried finding them on your site and video description.
same question!
Find them on the moonshade site
The company name is moonfab. Large suction cup anchors. 4.5 in. diameter industrial suction cups that hold firm to smooth flat surfaces. $25 for two. Aug 1, 2022 out of stock. You can request to be notified when they are again in stock. The small 2.75" anchors are in stock. $15 for two.
@@danielcotts8673 yeah I saw that. Let’s see how some Amazon brand ones work.
I like the idea of it, but personally can't justify the price for that size.
Thanks Luke for the review.
Wow, That's a great video. I will always cheer for you in Korea I'm looking forward to a great video. Have a nice day.
Everything FPG makes is ultra expensive but good products
Maaannn... mannn, $340+ for that, no way. No way that is worth that much. Crazy price tag.
i've never had to setup in a war zone for protection from the sun, but in training i have. what we did was have a cheap tarp (< $10) then a "good" tarp directly over that with at least a 6" gap between them. this in my experience provided the best protection from the sun's heat during the day. and it was always setup close to the ground, like 24-30" from the ground.
put another way: tarp over tarp, 6" gap between them. and just high enough to get you and your gear under. the gap allows air to pass between the tarps and you never feel the heat from the sun.
my personal setup cost less than $100 and that included a ground sheet & piece of camo netting i'd just drape over the top.
side note: some of the guys would dig a shallow trench and cover that with their ground sheet to lay in. that way the tarps could be lower to the ground (i didn't think it was necessary).
You'll find that the disclaimer about the permanent shelter use is the same for most of the tents you have also. Standard industry practice!
I agree it is expensive for what it is. I am not concerned about the "disclaimer" on the label. True, they can back out of a warranty complaint, but it is equally likely it is that way because someone misused the tarp and then complained. Consider that things like firewood and car tires have finite lifespans, but we don't worry about that.
a moonshade awning seems like a better option for my car
Forget the tarp it's expensive and heavy but I do like the suction cups.
Would be interested to see a side by side comparison with a triple layered tarp for blocking the sun's rays.
Could you put in dimensions in meters too?
Almost any material is not intended for long term UV exposure-as in leaving tarp in place for months at time. Having a disclaimer is smart and this is common practice on other outdoor products.
if you want protection just from the sun, aka shade, try "shade cloth". this way heat does not get trapped under it.
Always keep in mind that military application of equipment, while it can be crossed into civilian use, is not the same situationally. This is great for a couple of LCpls out in the field, but not as effective for Dad and junior camping for a week.
That would be nice for the beach, but at that price I’ll stick with a pop up canopy.
Jake can you show us how to make the loop knot you used in this episode. Thanks Eileen clarke
Hi Luke! Thanks for all your great information and beautiful videos. I want to ask you if you have any recommendations on truck bed tents.
As I was saying, in interested in the suction cups, where to buy those. And the tarp is too expensive. Maybe $99.99
105 here in potato land. I literally got mine out to test today.
I'd love to know where you scored one for $80. The lowest I'm seeing on eBay is $179.
Hey Luke, please do some glove reviews! I would love to know what you think of the Kuiu Axis and Kenai gloves.
Hi Luke how are you.
A question a bout one of your other vids. It's about your jackery and how long it charges your fridge . I have a ecoflow delta 1300 and I've got a cooler not a fridge I don't think it would last a night. So do proper fridges use less power. Thanks Adam
Do you need to use the suction cups? Couldn't you just tie it off on the roof racks?
What are the suction cups used. Are they available at Amazon?
OOOOOOOOOH Luke, those prices on the merch>>>???? Ouch!!
Awesome review. Where do you find your military surplus gear?
Very interesting, very expensive.
Yes I do like a slipknot, both band and actual knot.
Will we see suction cup set up at the wolf-den?
What would be the price of getting a 12x10 mylar along with 2 lightweight wax/water resistant canvas sheets and sowing them together and putting on your own hardware I wonder? i am only asking this since i have to make my own kit cause i can't afford retail stuff but most of the kit i make comes from what you can get retail and from watching review vids... never thought about putting a layer of mylar in a tarp/shelter before.
Sorry for asking but what is that red watch u wear in most of your videos?
Military Contracts spoil a lot of companies
the price is crazy.....
I think the company disclaimer is really to protect them from people who choose to use this tarp as some sort of a permanent, long term months-long encampment. No tent or tarp is going to last long under that type of use.
Clever marketing.....however there is no way ANY tarp is worth that kind of cost to me!
Scrachting the hell out of your truck
NRA blanket is gold, great one for a review
I'm interested in the
What are those clamps?
An umbrella is 10 bucks. 😆
Hey Luke - Is one of these a possibility for the Wolf Den?
Put the cups on the roof.
What weather app are you using
Wish we could get a real test of it's capabilities. But the secret is more import!
those cups would be great if sold separately
I think it is to high in money. With high gas prices food prices and I just can't wait to see we're you stop here in in Iowa so could we get a hint when the video with be up
Expensive, expensive, expensive. Did I mention it's expensive?, especially for the small size. Definitely need additional units to be properly protected. Multi use yes but dang the price, even eBay surplus is high. Not for me thanks. Nice review though.
Do you have the ebay link? For 80-100 dollar it seems reasonable but a whopping 300+ pricetag is a different story.
400 bucks, imagine buying ten of them
400 bucks? It should come with a refrigerator and a bunk bed..🤣
The price has dropped to $294 on the website. Still a lot of beer tokens!
Mylar, is it bulletproof?
If you can get a military one for the right price, then yeah otherwise no.
Had a look and couldn't even find one on ebay.
I have one of these. I love the thing. However, its so expensive and a lack of a realistic warranty makes me want to baby it and not use it as much as I should. I guess you could say Im paranoid about sun damage based off of the warning lable. I got it second hand for about 60 USD.
Is it a lack of warranty? I saw it more of advice not to try to use the tarp as a permanent roof material, and just use it as intended.
$350 !! no way
If anyone finds surplus links please share
Like see more of military to stay safe in world what is the military boots do you wear doing out in wild and crazy world be safe stay safe stay cool its ben so hot 🥵 this summer cant wait until fill gets here cool down
It doesn't make sense to buy it at full price, for that kind of money you can get a DCF tarp that's actually bigger and much lighter