Bucky is just plainly one of the best characters in the MCU, which is a wild thing that I would never have guessed considering he was such a side character in The First Avenger. Out of all the heroes, he's one of the more complex ones with a lot of darkness and demons haunting him, trying to do the right thing but still held back by his mental woes.
I wasnt exactly hyped for this movie but after learning that Sebastian Stan is gonna be in it im super hyped. He has one of the best story in the MCU and Falcon and The Winter Soldier left me wondering what happens to Bucky after this series.
The only one I was expecting out of this official lineup was US Agent. Certainly was not expecting ghost & taskmaster. Taskmaster was the biggest let down in BW so I hope they give her enough to work with that'll make the audience care for the character. Same for ghost.
Absolutely. I actually like that they chose these characters and didn't just let them go to waste. Both the actors/actresses & characters. Not what I was expecting but totally fine with the lineup. I only hope they did more with Ronan the Accuser as well. Very interested on how this plays out in the film and in the MCU as a whole.
I don’t think Red Guardian, Bucky, and Yelena are antagonists; Red Guardian was double crossed by the Red Room, Yelena was brainwashed and then confused with killing Clint, and Bucky was also brainwashed. Edit: also US Agent was kinda too conflicted, and Ghost wanted to cure herself.
Love that Walker and Bucky should be getting more interactions, they got almost zilch in terms of decent, positive interactions in episode 6 of FATWS, totally skimped over, so I hope they do them right in this movie. Love the idea of Yelena and Bucky being together, given their red room/Hydra experiences, and I love as well that Bucky isn't just being a sidekick to Sam's Cap, Bucky is a leading character as is Sebastian as a leading man. The fans love Bucky and he's one of the best legacy characters they have left, if not the best.
It’s really surprising to see Bucky and Red Guardian as part of the line up and seeing Yelena and “Taskmaster” in the team as well is a interesting surprise. It’s gonna be interesting seeing the team dynamic when we are getting 2 “Captain america”, ghost, Crimson Widow, Bucky, and “Taskmaster”
People straight up bullied Wyatt Russel because he played his character perfectly. I absolutely loved his performance and I can’t wait to see him in the thunderbolts. He’s kind of like marvel’s Homelander
Dude, he's nothing like Homelander and I can't stand the idiots who berate him on F/WS. Bucky & Sam were more villains than him, they released one terrorist from prison and practically sided with another. All John did was try to stop them yet people call him the badguy.
@@petertracycarroll He didn't lose anything except his best friend, he killed a damn terrorist who was going around blowing people up yet people think HE'S the bad guy, ridiculous.
@@theoutlawking9123 Yeah john was just taking orders from the government to stop them and when the terrorists killed his best bud he lost control and killed one of the terrorists. But then he is considered a villain cause of that
Well we already knew Yelena and Walker were being recruited. Was FULLY not expecting to see Winter Soldier in this line up. Be interesting to see how that one ties in with the new Cap. The fangirl in me is screaming about Bucky and Yelena in the same movie though. Couple of my faves.
@@lucas_leoheart Bucky would’ve already been pardoned, plus everyone already knows that he was the winter soldier so blackmail won’t work. I think that it will be John who convinces Bucky to join the Thunderbolts
@@joshuaw9675 "We're the heroes the world's needs. We take the measure needed that the Avenger originals didn't." "So, you're the New Avengers then?" "No. The Thunderbolts." "Got to admit that sounds better than Steves team name." "Yeah. We're proactive. Not reactive."
David Harbour and Florence have such comedic chops....and John Walker was SUCH an intense character. There is going to be LOTS to unpack with this group.
@@SpinoSam There not really villains, there people who did bad things in the past, and are trying to make up for it. But some are not the greatest at doing so.
@@edwinahilner6412 the thing is, in the comics the Thunderbolts has always been most popular for being a team of villains/anti heroes so why change it? Its literally the entire point of the team so I do not see the reason to change something so big
What’s gotten me so pumped is that Bucky is going to lead this group the same way as Steve Rodgers led the Avengers;but,he’s going to bring the kick ass level of the Winter Soldier to show the team WHY he’s the de facto leader…👍👍👍
Maybe the reason abomination isn't here is because of his involvement in She hulk maybe in the end of the season they would tease his thunderbolts involvement that's why they kept him out here and for zemo they might be saving his involvement as he might be playing someone against this group or maybe he has a cameo in something before this project is out that would give us a hint .
I like that idea. I really hope it’s true. You don’t bring back Abomination…someone who could go toe to toe with Hulk or she Hulk.. and then keep him out of the dark avengers essentially
I feel like zemo’s arc is kinda over, he’s made peace with Bucky in a sense, had the chance to mourn his family, and agreed to do his time in a wakandan prison
Who is booing at Wyatt, how rude! Also the last time we saw John, he was actually trying to save people, he was actually living up to what Cap should be. Also Wyatt calling himself the most boring Avenger, that’s not true at all, he’s awesome.
a very interesting lineup , lots of possibilities but the lineup in question , it wasn't something i was hoping for, not having Zemo or Abomination was very disappointing , i think he will be part of it , they kept him off the art for a reason but i'm really looking forward indeed
David Bruhl is producing... All Quiet on the Western Front... and that movie might get all kinds of Oscar Buzz so he might not be back in the MCU ... maybe.
The tone of the trailers were really refreshing You can already feel the tensity of the shows Especially Secret Invasion With the “Who can you trust?” Theme with some espionage Looking forward to it
Fingers crossed for Bucky and yelena, plus the dynamic of the father daughter and the dynamic with a father and a potential love interest. It’s gonna be great.
OMG, I'm so excited for this. I freakin' love Sebastian Stan as the Winter Soldier and am happy that he and the character are getting another run in the MCU. The Red Guardian should be fun too. Can't wait!
People straight up bashing on Walker when he definitely doesn't deserve it. Walker is awesome and doesn't deserve the hate he gets. Wyatt is a badass and out of all these guys is arguably the one I am most excited to see return. Although I am happy to see Ghost again.
After seeing the lineup and thinking about this briefly my best guess would be skrulls camo'd as politicians or just straight up human politics who don't want the thunderbolts to be allowed because of their pasts and belief that they are still villians.
I love this cast. I had one guess right which was US Agent. I'm curious to see the dynamics between them & how they'll attack a mission as team. Should be pretty interesting.
@@brendanalexcurran3429 Red Guardian took a version of it too. Hence the 3 with the same skillset. Everyone except Ghosts is skilled in hand to hand combat, and have superhuman strength, but not much else. No Ronin, no abomination, not demi-gods like Hercules, etc.
@@daliriosnark Ghost IS skilled in hand to hand. We saw in Antman & The Wasp SHIELD trained her since she was little girl & used her for assassinations along with sabotage & espionage.
I was thinking Zemo or Abomination being part of the Thunderbolts, but so far, they have the best team lineup of Thunderbolts. Although, I believe that Marvel have some surprises for both: Abomination and Zemo (mostly Zemo while Abomination is possible) is hiding until the film is released in theaters which would be sooner at 2024).
Zemo's probably the one pulling the strings or something which is why they didn't reveal him and Abomination is in She-Hulk so they didn't reveal him because that could spoil his ending in the show.
@@santinodagostino4441, unfortunately that may not be the case because the actor that played as MCU General Ross (who was supposed to be Red Hulk), William Hurt, had passed away about a few months ago. Replacing the actor for General Ross is unknown at the moment since that is up to the MCU (mostly Kevin Feige).
The lineup is interesting. With Bucky being part of the crew, I wonder witch way they will go. Maybe more of a dark area of the government rather then a General Ross kill squad. I honestly thought they were going to do a misfit type superhero show.
I dont like that tbf bc it will completely take the picture off of everyone else on The team and toxic fangirls will put it on bucky and I mean LOTS OF BUCKY SLANDER
I was thrilled to see it. It had been rumored that he would be recruited. I love that his character brings a continuity to the MCU. He is the last remaining character from the first MCU in the timeline. Captain America!
@@lehcaraz1 he's not the last, Nick Fury is still around, Clint Barton, Thor, Maria Hill and a few more. Unless you mean the first film and not the first phase, but still, Iron Man was the first film, and Nick Fury would be the last one remaining character from that film that is still around. Unless Pepper Potts appears again, but I doubt it.
@@unsaidexile I was refering to the chronological order of the movies in real time. Captain America is the first Avenger film in the timeline. Cap is gone, Peggy Carter, Howard Stark. Only Bucky is left and he has actually been active but in the background throughout all the timeline. He has been busy killing for Hydra and the Russians until he surfaced in WS.
Mainly thinking of whatever govt owned properties that could up the power creep a little. But yes, how nice would it be to have both. But this may be just the level of power they want for the plot they’ve penned up. Excited either way.
Was expecting the comics adaptation but hope that happens sometime down the road. I loved the eventual reveal in the comics,but still a good group to bring to the screen!
That reveal was almost unprecedented for comics at the time. Doing that twist in a movie or show now would have been virtually impossible due to being spoiled by the previous material or the expected leaks that happen in our times. However my big hope is going to see the movie and they include Citizen V and not say anything until the end when they reveal you know who
1. Zemo 2. Yelena 3. Ghost 4. Taskmaster 5. US Agent 6. Abomination 7. Bullseye (good way to introduce him into the MCU from the show) This would've made a much more badass lineup.
We're getting the Thunderbolts finally. Hopefully we get Midnight Sons next. Daredevil's back, Moon Knight and Black Knight has been introduced, Blade and Elsa Bloodstone are coming, Punisher hopefully returns, we just need Ghost Rider and the lineup is complete.
I was just saying this almost exact words earlier today so weird that I see the video only hours later. But yeah I actually am not surprised about this line up. Didn’t think Bucky but don’t surprise me tho because his past life an things he did. They could have done The Punisher (Frank Castle) definitely would fit the job and team but and he actually was confirmed to be coming back same actor from the series if I’m not mistaken as well as Daredevil and king Pin especially since Daredevil and Punisher met and ended on good note. But I’m glad they didn’t add him in this because I can’t wait to see them bring in the Midnight Sons!! Best Marvel team ever. Daredevil Punisher blade and ghost rider are already in my top 10 favorite Marvel characters. the others of course are awesome to do I really hope they bring it soon. But also others joined in the comics as well so curious of who the line up will be. As long as those 4 are in it I’ll be happy. Also like the other guy that commented about Bringing back ghost Rider as Robbie Reyes or Johnny Blaze as same actors as the Two films with Nicolas Cage or in agents of shield. Personally Cage got two films first one was good second sucked but also Robbie Reyes ghost rider I liked better for some reason. An he didn’t get a film or his own series. Only got to be in season 4 of Agents of shield which btw was and still is my favorite show I’ve seen ever. But I feel he deserves more screen time and also Johnny blaze it ghostwriter was never introduced the MCU or Nick fury but Robbie Ray is Ghost Rider worked with Philip J. Coulsin which he’s a badass. So for him to be the Rider in thunder bolts would be sweet! But my Favorite Marvel character of all time is Not only Ghost rider but “The Cosmic Ghost Rider” which is Frank castle aka The Punisher! And the way he looks when he Turns is baddass! Flaming Skull of course an then still has his big punisher skull on the chest. And I think it’s lining up good to eventually have that happen. Daredevil knows spider man daredevil and punisher know each other both confirmed an Ghost Rider should just be Robbie Reyes and at the end of that maybe that’s when they will make it to where the punisher becomes a ghost rider because that would be a good opportunity to do it, or possibly just in a nether near future film or serious, but for Frank Castle the punisher to become The Ghost Rider is so sick especially because there in my top 10 people. And then if and when and hopefully they do. But when that does happen. Unfortunately Frank Castle The Punisher when he becomes The Ghost Rider he Eventually becomes The Cosmic Ghost Rider which is when he gets Cosmic Energy from Galactis which might not come in till later in this phase or possibly even the next few phases. Hopefully sooner then better. But If in the Next 3-5 years if Frank castle The Punisher becomes The Ghost Rider i will be so freakin happy lol especially if it’s still the same actor as the series and especially if it shows same actor as Robbie Reyes and The Punisher in the Midnight Sons. Then maybe the day will finally come where not only My favorite but the best Version of him will be in the live action MCU! - Frank Castle The Punishing Cosmic Ghost Rider 💯 Ps. Please Let it be Jon Bernthal that plays as him. 🙏🏼
This is actually awesome, Bucky and U.S Agent teaming up again, yelena and red guardian rejoining the universe, I love it and can’t wait to see how they’ll all interact, and I can bet they are going to have abomination and Zemo at some point but we’ll see
I'm assuming they are keeping Abomination and/or Red Hulk off the stage because of She-Hulk. Otherwise they have no heavy hitters on that team, which means it would be more of a spy film with anti-heroes in it than a real Thunderbolts team of reformed villains. Also I couldn't see more than movie length version of Capt. America & Winter Soldier.
White Vision should be a shoe in!! I was thinking about this lineup and felt the real lack of actual ‘powers’, sans Ghost, also felt they need at least a heavy hitter besides R.Gaurd. Although, having three super soldiers is I guess what it is.
i dont think red hulk is in it (the actor passed away),but the abomination is probably in the team, but they didnt show him bc he is currently in she hulk and they dont want to spoil us whats gonna happen to him, if he is a reformed antihero or he is just acting and he is a villain
No heavy hitters? They got three super soldiers on the team. I think Abomination would be cool but the SheHulk TV show so far has nerfed him by making his human form a condition of his parole. Not that they need him with Red Guardian, Bucky, and US Agent on the team. Throwing Abomination into the mix would just be for spectacle.
@@bryanergau6682 They can still do Red Hulk without having the actor who died be involved. Characters shouldn't be completely dropped just cause someone Irl died.
This is Marvel's chance of setting up the Winter-Widow ship. As much as I wanted to see Natasha with Bucky, I honestly won't mind seeing her sister Yelena with him instead in the MCU version. Yelena Belova is the only character left whom I can see have a future with Bucky. Not only that, but Bucky extremely deserves to have that in his life after everything he's been through!
@@brunonunezmosquera1803 honestly this. I kinda got that vibe from her. She a killing machine, but not a soulless character, has a mission but has fun. I'd love ace representation like that, and I kinda had that vibe already. :)
@@brunonunezmosquera1803 She's asexual in the comics. Her sexuality has never been talked about in the MCU though and Marvel tends to change things. They don't follow the comic books completely in every single detail. The Winter Soldier or Bucky Barnes was also never a member of the original thunderbolts in the comics but there must be a reason as to why they added him in the MCU version. Let's hope one of the reasons is to set him up with widow.
4 captain americas, 1 black widow and the other one looks great! I can’t wait to see what happens, and I’m sure this won’t turn out bad in any way shape or form
So freaking excited! They start filming in the beginning of June! It would be so cool if there was a scene where bucky turned into the winter soldier again
@@mjolnair I can't imagine that task master can't talk in MCU. Task master was a savage assassin in comics and even in ultimate Spider-Man animated series. The MCU task master suck!!
Also I see a lot of people saying "well how are they making a thunderbolts without zemo?" I believe zemo will make an appearance but he's not on the team. Why would he be on a team with 3 super soldiers? That's against his beliefs.
They're going to add Zemo and Abomination. You just got to wait till She-Hulk ends there might be a credit scene you never know. Also I think the reason they added Bucky is because he's probably their Handler kind of like how Rick flag was to the squad and he's also trying to find where he belongs in the world. Also he's probably going to have to keep a watch on Zemo
@@dil09ful that would make sense about Zemo and Abomination. With Bucky I can see that with being the handler. To me personally I just think it would have been better to give more screen time to others or add new characters especially when we’ll already be seeing Bucky again in Captain America New World Order
To the people booing at Russel, they should've been removed. It's incredibly immature to shame someone for doing their job. He plays US Agent so well, and if you can't see the difference between the actor and the character you're just a toxic fan.
Looks good.. Not particularly excited about Taskmaster thought that character was ruined in Black Widow. Would have loved a variant of some sort or the "True" Taskmaster.. But hey we shall see how this plays out.
I was looking for this post lol. I agree. I hope they find a way to scrap this Taskmaster. Took one of my favorite characters and made him into a joke.
@@Positepro02 You right.. A character with so much depth and skill, what they do? Turn him into a cheap version of Snake Eyes lol and the reveal in Black Widow as Draykov's daughter fell so flat.. 🤮🤮🤮
@@lylewilson6493 lmao cheap version of Snake eyes! Very true though. Like you said im praying we get a variant and this other bootleg Taskmaster gets the Axe.
Hoping that Zemo plays a role even though he’s in the Raft rn. However, him in the Raft could likely give us the return of Diamondback and Trish Walker. I can only hope
They need to change "Taskmasters" name IMMEDIATELY and call her something ELSE so the ACTUAL TASKMASTER can be introduced😭. Theres a marvel character called "Finesse" with basically the same abilities and she's a hero. There you go😂
I think the lineup is terribly bland without a great bunch of diversity. It's basically a group of equals. Six cookie-cutter heroes with the same abilities with the exception of a ghost. No abomination, no energy wielder just plain old super soldiers, with flaws.
I've been seeing a lot of hate (not in this video) for this announcement & I don't understand it. The hate mostly state the similar abilities within the characters but, abilities & super powers are not what make characters good. 'characters' make good characters. Back story & character development not their powers or skill set. I'm excited for it. Can't wait to see how this plays out.
Zemo's coming, they kept him off the art for a reason but I'm sure he'll be back for the film. Really looking forward.
Also hope Abomination comes back
Yeah you can't have Thunderbolts without Zemo!
I agree. Zemo will have to be a part of this!
100% agree.
@@MRbug_423 yeah what about Abomination & Rulk, or even Hercules, they need a real heavy hitter.
The way the crowd goes wild for Sebastian Stan warms my heart. I’m so glad we are getting Bucky again in 2 more movies.
Star Wars fans have been trying to snag him too for Mandalorian lol. He’s just so fantastic.
2 more is NOT enough
@@adelaidegreenlees7488bro he is playing from 2011😂😂
Bucky is just plainly one of the best characters in the MCU, which is a wild thing that I would never have guessed considering he was such a side character in The First Avenger. Out of all the heroes, he's one of the more complex ones with a lot of darkness and demons haunting him, trying to do the right thing but still held back by his mental woes.
I wasnt exactly hyped for this movie but after learning that Sebastian Stan is gonna be in it im super hyped. He has one of the best story in the MCU and Falcon and The Winter Soldier left me wondering what happens to Bucky after this series.
Same
Happy to see Sebastian Stan back - was not expecting him in Thunderbolts.
IKR! That was a really nice suprise!!
WS is in the most recent lineup in the comics...
The only one I was expecting out of this official lineup was US Agent. Certainly was not expecting ghost & taskmaster. Taskmaster was the biggest let down in BW so I hope they give her enough to work with that'll make the audience care for the character. Same for ghost.
The thing about this lineup, is that they are all antagonists, but they aren't purely evil. This seems real interesting
Absolutely. I actually like that they chose these characters and didn't just let them go to waste. Both the actors/actresses & characters. Not what I was expecting but totally fine with the lineup. I only hope they did more with Ronan the Accuser as well. Very interested on how this plays out in the film and in the MCU as a whole.
I don’t think Red Guardian, Bucky, and Yelena are antagonists; Red Guardian was double crossed by the Red Room, Yelena was brainwashed and then confused with killing Clint, and Bucky was also brainwashed.
Edit: also US Agent was kinda too conflicted, and Ghost wanted to cure herself.
Is Bucky really a antagonist now though like he’s reformed I would say
Yesss they’re all villain turned heroes or anti heroes
@@mattwieser3447 He's not an antagonist; he's probably just blackmailed or just came in there for support
The fact that Bucky is in the thunderbolts is crazy can’t wait to see how this goes.
Yea I’m surprised he would agree to be on the team…hope it makes sense
@@TruthSeeker23099 Fr
ikr bucky but not zemo?
He better get his hair long again
@@Dr.DisrespectFan918 naw short suits him
I'm really happy Florence Pugh is coming back. I love her as Yelena.
She is mood
Love that Walker and Bucky should be getting more interactions, they got almost zilch in terms of decent, positive interactions in episode 6 of FATWS, totally skimped over, so I hope they do them right in this movie. Love the idea of Yelena and Bucky being together, given their red room/Hydra experiences, and I love as well that Bucky isn't just being a sidekick to Sam's Cap, Bucky is a leading character as is Sebastian as a leading man. The fans love Bucky and he's one of the best legacy characters they have left, if not the best.
It’s really surprising to see Bucky and Red Guardian as part of the line up and seeing Yelena and “Taskmaster” in the team as well is a interesting surprise. It’s gonna be interesting seeing the team dynamic when we are getting 2 “Captain america”, ghost, Crimson Widow, Bucky, and “Taskmaster”
think you mean "3" captain America with Winter Soldier there lol
There's definifely going to be a lot of infighting among the group. I'm interested to see how it plays out.
No Zemo. No Moonstone
crimson widow? do you mean white widow? unless if you do realize that by calling her that meant they are controlled by hydra?
What's with the quotes?
People straight up bullied Wyatt Russel because he played his character perfectly. I absolutely loved his performance and I can’t wait to see him in the thunderbolts. He’s kind of like marvel’s Homelander
He’s really not like homelander John is an actual good person who lost his way and is trying to find it again hopefully in this movie or his own show
Yeah I agree, definitely not Homelander though
Dude, he's nothing like Homelander and I can't stand the idiots who berate him on F/WS. Bucky & Sam were more villains than him, they released one terrorist from prison and practically sided with another. All John did was try to stop them yet people call him the badguy.
@@petertracycarroll He didn't lose anything except his best friend, he killed a damn terrorist who was going around blowing people up yet people think HE'S the bad guy, ridiculous.
@@theoutlawking9123 Yeah john was just taking orders from the government to stop them and when the terrorists killed his best bud he lost control and killed one of the terrorists. But then he is considered a villain cause of that
Well we already knew Yelena and Walker were being recruited. Was FULLY not expecting to see Winter Soldier in this line up. Be interesting to see how that one ties in with the new Cap. The fangirl in me is screaming about Bucky and Yelena in the same movie though. Couple of my faves.
The fangirl in me too ,🤩🤩
one word two syllables for bucky: Blackmail
because he'll be forcedly tied in his crimes he is currently undergoing program to issue his pardon
@@lucas_leoheart Bucky would’ve already been pardoned, plus everyone already knows that he was the winter soldier so blackmail won’t work. I think that it will be John who convinces Bucky to join the Thunderbolts
@@joshuaw9675 "We're the heroes the world's needs. We take the measure needed that the Avenger originals didn't."
"So, you're the New Avengers then?"
"No. The Thunderbolts."
"Got to admit that sounds better than Steves team name."
"Yeah. We're proactive. Not reactive."
David Harbour and Florence have such comedic chops....and John Walker was SUCH an intense character. There is going to be LOTS to unpack with this group.
The addition of Bucky was just the icing on the cake. Can’t wait for this
Theres a reason they saved him for last lol, he got the biggest ovation
why? He's not a villain anymore. Why are they putting him on a team of villains/anti heroes?
@@SpinoSam There not really villains, there people who did bad things in the past, and are trying to make up for it. But some are not the greatest at doing so.
@@edwinahilner6412 the thing is, in the comics the Thunderbolts has always been most popular for being a team of villains/anti heroes so why change it? Its literally the entire point of the team so I do not see the reason to change something so big
Why
What’s gotten me so pumped is that Bucky is going to lead this group the same way as Steve Rodgers led the Avengers;but,he’s going to bring the kick ass level of the Winter Soldier to show the team WHY he’s the de facto leader…👍👍👍
Maybe the reason abomination isn't here is because of his involvement in She hulk maybe in the end of the season they would tease his thunderbolts involvement that's why they kept him out here and for zemo they might be saving his involvement as he might be playing someone against this group or maybe he has a cameo in something before this project is out that would give us a hint .
I like that idea. I really hope it’s true. You don’t bring back Abomination…someone who could go toe to toe with Hulk or she Hulk.. and then keep him out of the dark avengers essentially
I think you're on to something. Add to that the fact that this team really needs some muscle and I think we'll be seeing Abomination as a Thunderbolt.
@@maguffle Maybe the surprise for the movie is Red Hulk
Yeah introducing him here will technically spoiled she hulk
I feel like zemo’s arc is kinda over, he’s made peace with Bucky in a sense, had the chance to mourn his family, and agreed to do his time in a wakandan prison
"Pretty sick line-up" at 2:12. I couldn't agree more; this is a FANTASTIC group of actors and characters.
So excited to see Sebastian Stan returning as the winter soldier in thunderbolt MCU
Who is booing at Wyatt, how rude! Also the last time we saw John, he was actually trying to save people, he was actually living up to what Cap should be. Also Wyatt calling himself the most boring Avenger, that’s not true at all, he’s awesome.
a very interesting lineup , lots of possibilities but the lineup in question , it wasn't something i was hoping for, not having Zemo or Abomination was very disappointing , i think he will be part of it , they kept him off the art for a reason but i'm really looking forward indeed
Abomination is on the team. They just can’t announce it before She Hulk is over
i think they are the two members left
David Bruhl is producing... All Quiet on the Western Front... and that movie might get all kinds of Oscar Buzz so he might not be back in the MCU ... maybe.
Notice how much empty space there is in the image of the team? Interesting....
He not on the team in the comics abomination
Excited to see Bucky and John Walker again! Loved their rivalry in the Falcon and the Winter Soldier series.
Omg I need interactions between Yelena and Bucky speaking Russian-
Bucky is back!!
I'm happy to see more of US Agent, the guy was off his rails in FATWS. let's go!
I’m hoping John finishes his redemption in this movie or his own show
Very exciting lineup, it'll be interesting to see if Red Guardian and Winter Soldier have history together (I'm guessing they do)
The trailers for Secret Invasion and WereWolf by Night had me jumping with excitement i can't wait for next month
I did read on wikipedia the Ebony Blade will be featured in the new Blade movie. Of course, this means that Black Knight returns.
The tone of the trailers were really refreshing
You can already feel the tensity of the shows
Especially Secret Invasion
With the “Who can you trust?” Theme with some espionage
Looking forward to it
What’s next month?
Warewolf by night didn’t really do it for me but secret invasion looks good imo
@@toy_bonnie werewolf by night
Fingers crossed for Bucky and yelena, plus the dynamic of the father daughter and the dynamic with a father and a potential love interest. It’s gonna be great.
OMG, I'm so excited for this. I freakin' love Sebastian Stan as the Winter Soldier and am happy that he and the character are getting another run in the MCU. The Red Guardian should be fun too. Can't wait!
People straight up bashing on Walker when he definitely doesn't deserve it. Walker is awesome and doesn't deserve the hate he gets. Wyatt is a badass and out of all these guys is arguably the one I am most excited to see return. Although I am happy to see Ghost again.
An interesting line up. I am very curious who they'll be up against in the movie. There's a lot of possibilities.
With the exception of Ghost, all of them have similar powers.
Hopefully the enemy is Abomination. I think that would be awesome.
After seeing the lineup and thinking about this briefly my best guess would be skrulls camo'd as politicians or just straight up human politics who don't want the thunderbolts to be allowed because of their pasts and belief that they are still villians.
In their very first appearance in the comics, they fought the Hulk. Maybe...? We'll see. 😎
@@rickmathis8590 With rumors of a more Savage hulk returning, I could see that.
I love this cast. I had one guess right which was US Agent. I'm curious to see the dynamics between them & how they'll attack a mission as team. Should be pretty interesting.
3 of the 6 thunderbolts have the same skill set and the only one with a power that isn't a human with increased strength is gost
US Agent and Winter Soldier took the super soldier serum
Yelena is like Black widow, ghost is like Ant man. Task Master like iron man lol ghetto Avengers
@@brendanalexcurran3429 bootleg not really ghetto. And taskmaster has nothing like Iron Man. Just another Knock off Cap💀
@@brendanalexcurran3429 Red Guardian took a version of it too. Hence the 3 with the same skillset. Everyone except Ghosts is skilled in hand to hand combat, and have superhuman strength, but not much else. No Ronin, no abomination, not demi-gods like Hercules, etc.
@@daliriosnark Ghost IS skilled in hand to hand. We saw in Antman & The Wasp SHIELD trained her since she was little girl & used her for assassinations along with sabotage & espionage.
What a group! Can't wait to see what direction they take them in.
I was thinking Zemo or Abomination being part of the Thunderbolts, but so far, they have the best team lineup of Thunderbolts. Although, I believe that Marvel have some surprises for both: Abomination and Zemo (mostly Zemo while Abomination is possible) is hiding until the film is released in theaters which would be sooner at 2024).
They probably didn’t show Abomination to not spoil She Hulk
Zemo's probably the one pulling the strings or something which is why they didn't reveal him and Abomination is in She-Hulk so they didn't reveal him because that could spoil his ending in the show.
Hopefully red hulk
@@santinodagostino4441, unfortunately that may not be the case because the actor that played as MCU General Ross (who was supposed to be Red Hulk), William Hurt, had passed away about a few months ago. Replacing the actor for General Ross is unknown at the moment since that is up to the MCU (mostly Kevin Feige).
Why does it not show a red hulk....
The lineup is interesting. With Bucky being part of the crew, I wonder witch way they will go. Maybe more of a dark area of the government rather then a General Ross kill squad. I honestly thought they were going to do a misfit type superhero show.
I am kinda surprised that bucky is in the thunderbolts were they any rumors of that happening or no
I dont like that tbf bc it will completely take the picture off of everyone else on The team and toxic fangirls will put it on bucky and I mean LOTS OF BUCKY SLANDER
he lead the team at one point in the comics so it makes sense
@@blogsanjay1031 ah ok thanks
@@Specialstacysfannyflap oh boy
He will probably be to the thunderbolts as rick flag is to the suicide squad
Is anyone else absolutely disgusted in the way Wyatt was booed at? He did fantastic job as US Agent and was treated like he shouldn’t be their.
Surprised about who is in the line up! This looks extremely interesting, Sebastian Stan!!
I was thrilled to see it. It had been rumored that he would be recruited. I love that his character brings a continuity to the MCU. He is the last remaining character from the first MCU in the timeline. Captain America!
@@lehcaraz1 he's not the last, Nick Fury is still around, Clint Barton, Thor, Maria Hill and a few more. Unless you mean the first film and not the first phase, but still, Iron Man was the first film, and Nick Fury would be the last one remaining character from that film that is still around. Unless Pepper Potts appears again, but I doubt it.
Guess he's the new Stan the Man
@@unsaidexile I was refering to the chronological order of the movies in real time. Captain America is the first Avenger film in the timeline. Cap is gone, Peggy Carter, Howard Stark. Only Bucky is left and he has actually been active but in the background throughout all the timeline. He has been busy killing for Hydra and the Russians until he surfaced in WS.
@@lehcaraz1 well, in that case, it's still not Bucky. Thor is around 1500 years old.
"Idk It's up to you Kevin" was a good response and I'm surprised no one has ever said that to Feige in all of these years hahahaha
BRRIINNGG WHIIIITE VISSSIIOOONN!!!
Killer lineup!! Gonna be sooooo good coming right after Cap4
U think bucky and us agent gonna be in it and zemo
Do you not see Bucky and US Agent in the video?
You're thinking of West Coast Avengers
Mainly thinking of whatever govt owned properties that could up the power creep a little. But yes, how nice would it be to have both. But this may be just the level of power they want for the plot they’ve penned up.
Excited either way.
Great cast. Sebastion Stan is such a surprise for this team.
Was expecting the comics adaptation but hope that happens sometime down the road. I loved the eventual reveal in the comics,but still a good group to bring to the screen!
I find it funny that they mostly change the lineup for every different comic run in the comics
That reveal was almost unprecedented for comics at the time. Doing that twist in a movie or show now would have been virtually impossible due to being spoiled by the previous material or the expected leaks that happen in our times.
However my big hope is going to see the movie and they include Citizen V and not say anything until the end when they reveal you know who
Queen Florence..and this combo with winter soldier is bomb
I was hoping they would leave out Taskmaster, they butchered this character so badly
Facts😭
Worst ever.
Hopefully tony masters appears in the movie and takes the role
@@derfproductions4796 Nah they confirmed it’ll be the one from Black Widow, unfortunately
@@the1theonlyg248 I’m talking about if he like takes the suit someway during the movie from the original taskmaster
Never heard of the thunderbolts till today but i'm glad the ghost character wasn't discontinued.
love the casting for this! can't wait to see the Thunderbolts
Ayyy more David Harbor
They blew our expectations out of the water. We thought this would be Zemos viain team
this team is boring and this announcement has killed my interest
@@SpinoSam did we ask though?
@@DoxToDox nobody asked for your comment either
So glad you were able to get all of this footage and info, I just wish that Marvel didn't keep quite as many things exclusive to D23 attendees
I am really happy to see Red Guardian and Ghost come back. They are pretty cool characters in my opinion
I loved ghost!!!
At least Ghost didnt kick the bucket in the timeskip
@Paraone Ngatai shame Egghead died to give Ghost her powers
Now we have to have a U.S. Agent spin-off show that shows how tragic and more deep his character is with a glam rock soundtrack
Nice line up, but it’s missing Zemo. I really hope that’s just a marketing choice and that he’s actually part of the team.
1. Zemo
2. Yelena
3. Ghost
4. Taskmaster
5. US Agent
6. Abomination
7. Bullseye (good way to introduce him into the MCU from the show)
This would've made a much more badass lineup.
Idk why but I love red guardian so much, really happy to see him return!!! Can’t wait!
After seeing that lineup I’m actually excited for this movie!
Absolutely amazing can't wait for The Thunderbolts!!!
This is so great.
I'm excited to see what they do with this and happy Winter Soldier is there
It really is an interesting line up definitely knew that Kevin would keep Zemo and abomination secret from the audience can't wait for it man.
We're getting the Thunderbolts finally. Hopefully we get Midnight Sons next. Daredevil's back, Moon Knight and Black Knight has been introduced, Blade and Elsa Bloodstone are coming, Punisher hopefully returns, we just need Ghost Rider and the lineup is complete.
It won't be Morbin time in the MCU till Secret Wars
PUNISHER.
If you count Agents of Shield, we already have at least 2 confirmed Ghost Riders in the MCU.
@@zetsuei380 I would love if they brought Robbie Reyes over from AoS. But I would also love if they brought back Nick Cage, lol.
I was just saying this almost exact words earlier today so weird that I see the video only hours later. But yeah I actually am not surprised about this line up. Didn’t think Bucky but don’t surprise me tho because his past life an things he did. They could have done The Punisher (Frank Castle) definitely would fit the job and team but and he actually was confirmed to be coming back same actor from the series if I’m not mistaken as well as Daredevil and king Pin especially since Daredevil and Punisher met and ended on good note. But I’m glad they didn’t add him in this because I can’t wait to see them bring in the Midnight Sons!! Best Marvel team ever. Daredevil Punisher blade and ghost rider are already in my top 10 favorite Marvel characters. the others of course are awesome to do I really hope they bring it soon. But also others joined in the comics as well so curious of who the line up will be. As long as those 4 are in it I’ll be happy. Also like the other guy that commented about Bringing back ghost Rider as Robbie Reyes or Johnny Blaze as same actors as the Two films with Nicolas Cage or in agents of shield. Personally Cage got two films first one was good second sucked but also Robbie Reyes ghost rider I liked better for some reason. An he didn’t get a film or his own series. Only got to be in season 4 of Agents of shield which btw was and still is my favorite show I’ve seen ever. But I feel he deserves more screen time and also Johnny blaze it ghostwriter was never introduced the MCU or Nick fury but Robbie Ray is Ghost Rider worked with Philip J. Coulsin which he’s a badass. So for him to be the Rider in thunder bolts would be sweet! But my Favorite Marvel character of all time is Not only Ghost rider but
“The Cosmic Ghost Rider” which is Frank castle aka The Punisher! And the way he looks when he Turns is baddass! Flaming Skull of course an then still has his big punisher skull on the chest. And I think it’s lining up good to eventually have that happen. Daredevil knows spider man daredevil and punisher know each other both confirmed an Ghost Rider should just be Robbie Reyes and at the end of that maybe that’s when they will make it to where the punisher becomes a ghost rider because that would be a good opportunity to do it, or possibly just in a nether near future film or serious, but for Frank Castle the punisher to become The Ghost Rider is so sick especially because there in my top 10 people. And then if and when and hopefully they do. But when that does happen. Unfortunately Frank Castle The Punisher when he becomes The Ghost Rider he Eventually becomes The Cosmic Ghost Rider which is when he gets Cosmic Energy from Galactis which might not come in till later in this phase or possibly even the next few phases. Hopefully sooner then better. But If in the Next 3-5 years if Frank castle The Punisher becomes The Ghost Rider i will be so freakin happy lol especially if it’s still the same actor as the series and especially if it shows same actor as Robbie Reyes and The Punisher in the Midnight Sons. Then maybe the day will finally come where not only My favorite but the best Version of him will be in the live action MCU!
- Frank Castle The Punishing Cosmic Ghost Rider 💯
Ps. Please Let it be Jon Bernthal that plays as him. 🙏🏼
I hope they aere just keeping Zemo, Abomination and fingers crossed Songbird as secrets for now, but we see them in the movie.
This is actually awesome, Bucky and U.S Agent teaming up again, yelena and red guardian rejoining the universe, I love it and can’t wait to see how they’ll all interact, and I can bet they are going to have abomination and Zemo at some point but we’ll see
I have been waiting on the Thunderbolts guys. Definitely sharing out this video
Although I am not surprised, was not expecting Bucky. This is gonna be so hyped
I love that the red guardian is coming back! And I’m also happy that ghost is coming back no more ambiguity with her
Anything with Florence Pugh has me IN.
I'm assuming they are keeping Abomination and/or Red Hulk off the stage because of She-Hulk. Otherwise they have no heavy hitters on that team, which means it would be more of a spy film with anti-heroes in it than a real Thunderbolts team of reformed villains. Also I couldn't see more than movie length version of Capt. America & Winter Soldier.
White Vision should be a shoe in!! I was thinking about this lineup and felt the real lack of actual ‘powers’, sans Ghost, also felt they need at least a heavy hitter besides R.Gaurd. Although, having three super soldiers is I guess what it is.
i dont think red hulk is in it (the actor passed away),but the abomination is probably in the team, but they didnt show him bc he is currently in she hulk and they dont want to spoil us whats gonna happen to him, if he is a reformed antihero or he is just acting and he is a villain
No heavy hitters? They got three super soldiers on the team. I think Abomination would be cool but the SheHulk TV show so far has nerfed him by making his human form a condition of his parole. Not that they need him with Red Guardian, Bucky, and US Agent on the team. Throwing Abomination into the mix would just be for spectacle.
@@brunonunezmosquera1803 they wouldve had red hulk in the team probably, but bc the actor died there isnt going to be one
@@bryanergau6682 They can still do Red Hulk without having the actor who died be involved. Characters shouldn't be completely dropped just cause someone Irl died.
I can’t wait to see this and see the fun and chaos this group has to offer
This is Marvel's chance of setting up the Winter-Widow ship. As much as I wanted to see Natasha with Bucky, I honestly won't mind seeing her sister Yelena with him instead in the MCU version. Yelena Belova is the only character left whom I can see have a future with Bucky. Not only that, but Bucky extremely deserves to have that in his life after everything he's been through!
yesssssssss
yelena is not going to have anything with bucky... the character is asexual
@@brunonunezmosquera1803 honestly this. I kinda got that vibe from her. She a killing machine, but not a soulless character, has a mission but has fun. I'd love ace representation like that, and I kinda had that vibe already. :)
@@brunonunezmosquera1803 Hate to tell you, but it's going to happen.
@@brunonunezmosquera1803 She's asexual in the comics. Her sexuality has never been talked about in the MCU though and Marvel tends to change things. They don't follow the comic books completely in every single detail. The Winter Soldier or Bucky Barnes was also never a member of the original thunderbolts in the comics but there must be a reason as to why they added him in the MCU version. Let's hope one of the reasons is to set him up with widow.
This is going to be dope. I like the cast so far, I'm sure more will be added on later.
4 captain americas, 1 black widow and the other one looks great! I can’t wait to see what happens, and I’m sure this won’t turn out bad in any way shape or form
So freaking excited! They start filming in the beginning of June!
It would be so cool if there was a scene where bucky turned into the winter soldier again
I think it’s a good choice to have Winter Soldier in Thunderbolts! I’m sure we’ll see Abomination and Zemo!
Love the content! Thank you
TBH, i'm actually more excited about this than most other movies they have planned.
sameee
I never thought the thunderbolts would be made. What a great time to be alive for a comic fan.
This is gonna be a blast. Love that cast
Great video! Hoping that we'll get to see The Leader and Red Hulk show up in the film!
No Red Hulk sadly
The actor died in March
I'm still mad about how they ruined task master
I don't know why they kept this one plus taskmaster is a spider-man villain
@@mjolnair I can't imagine that task master can't talk in MCU.
Task master was a savage assassin in comics and even in ultimate Spider-Man animated series. The MCU task master suck!!
So a bunch of bad guys and bucky, gonna be interesting to see how bucky fits into it all especially with us agent in the team.
Also I see a lot of people saying "well how are they making a thunderbolts without zemo?" I believe zemo will make an appearance but he's not on the team. Why would he be on a team with 3 super soldiers? That's against his beliefs.
People bitch just to bitch. We don't know yet if he's returning or not.
Love that we are finally getting back to some normalcy with a but tonn of upcoming projects.
Not a big fan of the lineup tbh in my opinion 🙁 would rather have Zemo, Abomination, and Songbird in the lineup than Red Guardian and Bucky
They're going to add Zemo and Abomination. You just got to wait till She-Hulk ends there might be a credit scene you never know. Also I think the reason they added Bucky is because he's probably their Handler kind of like how Rick flag was to the squad and he's also trying to find where he belongs in the world. Also he's probably going to have to keep a watch on Zemo
@@dil09ful that would make sense about Zemo and Abomination. With Bucky I can see that with being the handler. To me personally I just think it would have been better to give more screen time to others or add new characters especially when we’ll already be seeing Bucky again in Captain America New World Order
@@lifeofachristian5142 that is true. But I really do hope they add songbird
@@dil09ful They did say before existing characters and none of the og Tunderbolts other Zemo exists in MCU not even Beetle
@@MysticFlameX you never know though
Johm walker, US Agent. Ohhh yeahhhhhhh!!! Just love his Character ❤️❤️❤️
I can't wait to see David Harper again!!!
My guy. Come on now.
I’m very excited about this one. So gutted that we won’t have William Hurt. RIP Red Hulk.
Very excited for the Thunderbolts...very sad about General Ross though
The actor died in March sorry
@@harryvideoz8863 ya I know hence why I said very sad about it
@@darthshima820 sorry I read it wrong
@@darthshima820 sorry I read it wrong
@@harryvideoz8863 no worries bro
Bucky and John together?!
Also, Bucky on the team seems to be removing all of his character work, I wonder how he will end up here
I’m looking forward to The Thunderbolts the most
same
Why they suck
@@michaelvillarreal4202 I’m a fan.
They look awful in mcu lol
@@justsomeguywithoutprofile7684 literally the movie didn't even come out and u r saying they awful already
Can't wait to see this!!! Didn't expect to see some of this line up tbh!
This team is actually pretty damn good. I feel like they're holding some members back which is a good idea!
To the people booing at Russel, they should've been removed. It's incredibly immature to shame someone for doing their job. He plays US Agent so well, and if you can't see the difference between the actor and the character you're just a toxic fan.
Looks good.. Not particularly excited about Taskmaster thought that character was ruined in Black Widow. Would have loved a variant of some sort or the "True" Taskmaster.. But hey we shall see how this plays out.
I was looking for this post lol. I agree. I hope they find a way to scrap this Taskmaster. Took one of my favorite characters and made him into a joke.
@@Positepro02 You right.. A character with so much depth and skill, what they do? Turn him into a cheap version of Snake Eyes lol and the reveal in Black Widow as Draykov's daughter fell so flat.. 🤮🤮🤮
@@lylewilson6493 lmao cheap version of Snake eyes! Very true though. Like you said im praying we get a variant and this other bootleg Taskmaster gets the Axe.
@@Positepro02 Crap part is Feige said that Olga Kurylenko is returning which doesn't bode well for the character
@@lylewilson6493 smh damn 🤦🏽. Welp guess they can't get everything right lol.
Hoping that Zemo plays a role even though he’s in the Raft rn. However, him in the Raft could likely give us the return of Diamondback and Trish Walker. I can only hope
Sounding more and more exciting!
I hope Bucky doesn’t turn back into a villain
They need to change "Taskmasters" name IMMEDIATELY and call her something ELSE so the ACTUAL TASKMASTER can be introduced😭.
Theres a marvel character called "Finesse" with basically the same abilities and she's a hero. There you go😂
Ok my expectations for this is now gone to zero
I’m super excited for Thunderbolts
I think the lineup is terribly bland without a great bunch of diversity. It's basically a group of equals. Six cookie-cutter heroes with the same abilities with the exception of a ghost. No abomination, no energy wielder just plain old super soldiers, with flaws.
I wish we had more people recording and leaking trailers!
Marvel did TaskMaster dirty one of the best comic book character reduce to a misgendered puppet🤦🏾♂️
I've been seeing a lot of hate (not in this video) for this announcement & I don't understand it. The hate mostly state the similar abilities within the characters but, abilities & super powers are not what make characters good. 'characters' make good characters. Back story & character development not their powers or skill set. I'm excited for it. Can't wait to see how this plays out.
Why Zemo and Abomination wasn't there?
Abomanition isn't there cuz of She Hulk and Zemo cuz he is currently in prison, so yeah, showing him would mean that he somehow got out
One of those films that might fly under the radar but end up being one of the best.