First Quiet Quitting, now Quiet Hiring - The Latest Employment Buzz Word
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- First Quiet Quitting, now Quiet Hiring - The Latest Employment Buzz Word. First we had the Great Resignation, then quiet quitting, then quiet firing, and now we have quiet hiring. Should you be worried? In this video I break down what this trend is and how you should handle it as an employee or job seeker.
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"Quiet quitting" is a buzzword made up by employers to shame employees who revert to their original job duties. There's no "quitting" about it. This "quiet hiring" has always been a trend. Nothing new 🤷🏼♀️
100%
@BeBop Now this new buzz word is to get people to work longer hours… guess what… often it doesn’t matter how much you work - you are a number on a spreadsheet & if you have a high salary you are more likely to be cut
@digital dirtbag did you land a more fulfilling job?
@@digitaldirtbagg Holy crap, that sounds like my job situation right now.
*high fives in actual quiet quitting*
Yes, it's good old-fashioned passive-aggressiveness with a new name.
All this shifting of blame just to avoid paying people their due worth. It's so disgraceful.
These people are cowards and this stuff is pointing a loaded gun at their money.
Quiet quitting: the workers figured out that doing extra work would not get extra money or extra job security. The promotions and raises go to friends of the boss, and have little or nothing to do with productivity.
Absolutely!! That's the boat I'm in right now!
Same here.
That’s true. I don’t see working in corporate as a way to enrich myself but truly do it for the steady paycheck it provides and only having to satisfy a few managers with predictable personalities versus a business owner who has to satisfy many different client and uncertainty to keep the business running. Performance reviews and promotions are subjective to biases of the manager or sometimes political based on budgets and not really based on objectivity of productivity or value the individual has contributed. I don’t mind being a worker but I don’t plan on trying to exceed my performance or go after that promotion. I just want to play by the system and get away with the least amount of effort until I find the means to escape this system once it falls out of my favor. My political-economy professor was right, she said you will never be rich working for someone else because in order for the company to profit they have to pay you less than what you are worth. This is why many workers are dissatisfied no matter how many times they get a new job because the system will always be the same until you realize how it works and how to maximize it to your advantage.
That's a terrible company.. that's not how mine works.
Unfortunately so.
I was "high flyer" during my last two jobs, annual raises never met inflation and the "recognition" were basically thank you notes and lunch. PAY YOUR PEOPLE
Giving people massive raises during record inflation will make inflation worse. You wanna help your business through inflation? Cut as many costs as you can at work. Help your business survive the storm and become the kind of employee that can help a business withstand hardship. Add that to your resume, and now you just increased your value as an employee. Throwing money at problems never works out. You approach with innovative ideas.
Then if they don't reward you for your tenacity you can now find another job with a much stronger resume and work history.
Just take the lunch to the leasing office and say here there’s rent that’s how I get paid at work so it qualifies as cash 😂
@@whiskeyinthejarjar so you are wasting a year or two in the old job for the old salary for a possible better resume which gives you 11-22% better pay if you change your work.
Instead of changing workplace as fast as possible and getting your 10-20% payrise instantly
@@whiskeyinthejarjarGranting substantial raises to individuals does not inherently trigger inflation. The total amount of money remains constant, whether it's held within a business or in the hands of its employees. While there might be a temporary impact on spending habits, these raises are typically awarded to those significantly enhancing productivity rather than universally distributed. It's a straightforward concept: increased compensation is tied to increased productivity, not a blanket distribution of funds out of thin air.
@@paoloperona5894 right. So handing out more money to people because of inflation is wrong. More consumer dollars chasing a stagnant or shrinking pool of available goods increases inflation. You're talking about something different.
I loud quit because I was doing 30 peoples job everyday . Now I’m unemployed and no one will hire me! Wouldn’t change that, I was so sick from giving 100%
Sounds more like you were giving 3000%, taking one persons labour / payment as 100%
Brian, it's called "working to rule".
Employers have taken advantage of the carrot/stick situation for so long in making employees think they can get somewhere by putting in 200% effort, only to be buried.
We won't go above and beyond anymore.
Until we return to a meritocracy - there's no point in doing more than what is required.
PERIOD.
I agree!! I don't know what has happened in the last 10 years, but almost every job I have had gives the management opportunities to the biggest ass kissers who then assume now that they're managers, they don't have to work harder anymore. Then the lower employees get treated like slaves. It's bonkers.
Never ask someone to do something that you are not able to do yourself. I can't believe how many restaurant owners and managers can't wait on a table, mix a drink, or use a mop these days.
So here is the running list:
1. Quiet Quiting - employee doing just your job or doing just enough to not get fired. They either get let go or promoted to management
2. Quiet Firing- Employer makes employee miserable so they hopefully quit
3. Quiet Closing - company has barely tolerable quality, charges too much, and sacrifices the long term growth of the company for quarterly profits
4. Quiet Hiring- employer loads up high performing employees with extra work but no extra pay
5. Quiet Quieting - People who are tired of buzz words with the word 'quiet'
You’re missing Loud Layoffs and Career Cushioning.
More appropriate definition for quiet firing. It is really the company secretly interviewing other candidates to replace you. The company keeps their plan to replace you a secret so you won't complain to other employees or otherwise cause problems.
They may give you hints such as giving you less assignments, not renewing standard trainings. If you notice these things, expect that you may be fired soon.
When the find the new employee, they hire the new employee and fire you.
@@vshah1010 my nephew was invited to an interview once where they brought him in the back entrance of the company. He found out later that it was because they didn't want the person he was replacing to know about it. After he was hired, the manager kept saying what a crummy employee the last person was. After less than a year, my nephew left because he realized how toxic the place was.
@@vshah1010 Very nice. The video misrepresents it a bit by overshadowing the firing part with additional work without additional pay
Never underestimate the cluelessness of upper management in larger organizations. The metrics that they use are often based on salary and bonuses rather than pure productivity (which can be more nebulous to measure in many fields).
Thus, the most productive employees who have been promoted or get bigger bonuses may be viewed as more expensive labor. Ironically, this could leave them as targets for layoffs.
I second this.
People high above don't know who works hard. They look at numbers. Numbers are measurable. Dedication is not as measurable.
I would change my vacations around so not to damage workload. It was a personal sacrifice that my direct boss acknowledged, but for higher ranks than her, it means nothing. So I stopped all personal sacrifices. Much happier now, and always employed.
So, they are going to fire people who are doing their jobs.
@digital dirtbag Welcome to our world in 2009 during the great recession. We worked ,75 hours a week for years with the same pay after layoffs. With 10% unemployment what choice did we have?
They also fire for not asking questions or being a good obedient slave, just another cog in the machine
Almost every job description ends with “other duties, as assigned” or some such language. If you are the one who refuses to do those “other duties as assigned” while everyone else on your team will do them, don’t be surprised when your job is the first to go. That’s reality.
Foolishness "quiet hiring" is just how companies have always crapped on their most productive employees. Increased Productivity = More Responsibility for the same amount of money or forcefully changing and added job duties without the employees input.
"Quiet hiring" is NOTHING new. How many people have been angry about favoritism and unfairness in the workplace? That's all it is. It's been around for over 100 years, it's not a new thing at all
I agree, and I'd add that sometimes you are just not interested in your job, it doesn't have to be about unfair practices. Some of us just hate having to spend time doing something we just can't care less about.
@@uacbpa time for a career then not a job just saying!
The "quiet hiring" meme is akin to a cheating partner saying "forgive me- this time it will be different!!". The promotion and raise process is not as formulaic as many recruiters assume it is. The quiet quitters worked in good faith during the good times, why would the company promotion and raise process change during the hard times? They will never give some people their due-due to personality (extrovert/vs introvert), psychology (threatened by a direct report) or politics (they use their position so they won't be seen as underperformer themself)- the proverbial "3 P's".
No is a powerful word. Push back. If you don't stand up for yourself in a respectful manner, you will get taken advantage of.
“High fliers”, in my experience, are the ones cozying up to the boss, who get recognition & perks (financial or otherwise). While they may or may not be competent, there are other hardworking, competent employees who never got any recognition for their hard work. This is not a new phenomenon.
"You shaft us - we shaft you back." -- Narcissistic Companies.
I had an employer that tried to do this to me back in 2021. It's definitely not new. When I was less than enthusiastic about the extra, "more challenging" work (it was the same job I always did, just involving more travel), it eventually went to someone else. I was relieved because while the company was paying all my expenses, they would not be covering the extra expenses I might incur for not being home as much, which would have added up pretty fast because I have children. Interestingly, I still got the raise that was supposedly tied to the extended role. I'm not sure if that was an administrative error or what, obviously I was not going to ask and find out. I think if you're getting a raise for whatever reason, they just use it as a way to try and get more out of you instead of just saying good job, here is the raise you've earned. So yeah, I'm pretty sure this is just more manipulation to squeeze more out of employees.
I keep hearing about extra reward for better performers. And it does happen in some areas (sales, executives).
But a lot of the time, it doesn't. So another consideration is always how much do you trust your employer to fulfill the promise your boss made.
They might do it very briefly when they see that their employees are all complaining about favoritism in promotions, and dialing back their effort, and they can't get any more young super motivated employees that are willing to work harder without compensation or recognition. Once people start to believe that promotion through hard work is possible, it will be right back to business as usual.
Well remember the shift is now here. Employees don't have to be loyal and loyalty is not a one way street.
Yup. And not just in Fortune 500 companies. My hospital wanted to reorganize and outsource all financial duties to regional specialists, then realized someone local had to gather up invoices, get approvals, follow up with local vendors, etc. That got dumped on me for no extra pay. Then they complained that “no one wants to work” after eliminating whole departments of jobs and offering low wages, no pension, 1.5% raises, and increasing employee benefit costs that lowered take home pay from the previous year.
I've cycled back and forth between quite hiring and quiet quitting my whole working career. Don't worry about it. There's quietly coasting too, i also do that. Am ahead of the buzz word curve. BABY.
There were articles about "quiet hiring" most of Q4 2022, so I wouldn't classify this as new for 2023.
As you noted (phrased differently), this is the same hustle culture BS that spurred quiet quitting. Top performers are, most likely, just going to be rewarded with more work and no real benefit to the employee- though they'll keep dangling that carrot. Watching how my company treated employees post-covid was eye-opening, and I have started dusting off my resume.
I discussed this in July, when projects where going well, got told to wait till Dec, got laid off day after Christmas. Don't wait if they ask you to, quit on the spot if they tell you to wait.
I had actually quiet quit my job but roughly 6 months ago I submitted a package to my boss & corporate detailing my list of accomplishments & how I have helped the company save money. A few weeks ago I received my yearly review with a 2.6 percent pay raise equaling a 74 cent per hour raise. My director called me at home a week later & said HR was taking back the raise & giving me instead a $5.83 cent raise per hour! I think my director & corporate realize that finally I have a special set of skills & knowledge that is not easy to replace. We actually have a difficult time hiring highly experienced & highly skilled building engineers where I work.
Congratulations!
I don't understand. How is going from 74 cents raise to 5.83 cents better? It's a lot less money... Did he mean 5.83 dollars?
@@neliaferreira9983 It’s read as ($5.83) or 5 dollars & eighty three cents.
Please share it!! Maybe not with numbers or names, but the structure!! Congratulations!!
@@neliaferreira9983 .. I bet you think you are under paid ..
You could still work extra hours and get laid off. Working extra hours doesn't guarantee you advancement. If the company doesn't like you, they will justify letting you go even to their own hurt. Know your place in the company you currently work for, and don't stay at that company too long. Unless you're an exceptionally bad employee, most companies will keep you around for a year. So, plan to quit around your 9th month if things aren't to your liking, or you feel uneasy.
People doing what they're hired to do is a form of quitting? WTF is going on?
Quiet quitting was just doing your job and nothing more. Its what people should have been doing in the first place. Going above and beyond doesn't get you ahead.
Quiet hiring is for brownnosers.
I hate all these buzzwords meant to describe things that were all normal corporate/employee behavior since the dawn of man
Sounds more like job creep, as the scope of your job responsibilities tends to expand indefinitely without compensation. Similar to scope creep on a consulting engagement where the client wants more done, but not to pay more for it.
It's been my experience that there is no creep. At a couple of different organizations I get called into my managers office and they give me a take it or leave it proposition. Sometimes is a complete redefinition of my role and responsibilities or they transfer me into another group and function. This is all with no increase in pay and promises of riches later. Typically there is also gas lighting and manipulation involved to get me to accept without complaint.
@@eq2092 isn't that constructive dismassal?
@@gourami7 not too sure in both instances they were surprised that I quit. At job #1 the reaction I got was disbelief and shock. At job #2 managers took it as an offense that I would resign and gave me silent treatment.
Many years ago, I told a buddy to conversate with his boss because he was severely underpaid. My buddy's boss decided to give him a raise and a title change. That title change on his resume helped him achieve a mid-leadership role with double the salary at a similar organization.
My buddy's problem was that he rely on his work "mentors" for career advice. It only took me 30 seconds to motivate him and help him realize he can do better.
There are no friends or "mentors" at work. Develop good working relations with your bosses and the right people!
Your buddy was lucky the boss helped him. I got laid off for a similar conversation.
The right word is not conversate, but converse.
@@barbarahecht4617 Whatever makes you feel more intelligent!
@@Hello-rl6lp Yes, using the correct words in the language I speak everyday Does make me feel more intelligent. You should try it sometime.
I worked with a team leader who nudged me to apply elsewhere as he knew I was being underpaid for the skills I had and I wasn't getting anywhere asking for what I was worth. It helped me take a risk and apply somewhere else. I am grateful for him because I boosted my salary 35% by taking that leap. I had my old manager persuade me I wouldn't get far anywhere outside the company because of a lack of qualifications but what I did do is take photos of all the projects and systems I fabricated and put it in a portfolio and after doing that I realized my self worth. The team leader found another job a week later and just like that 23 years of combined site legacy knowledge disappeared. I am still hearing the consequences of the chain reaction of leaving that this has caused 2 months later.
I then found my old position being advertised for a lot more. And that taught me companies do not value you, they try to get away with the bare minimum they can pay you for and only pay when they have too. Your company is not your friend and your managers will lie to you so you stay at low pay. If you want better pay, you have to be willing to leave. I want to be like that team leader and give anyone who reads this the wake up call, if you think you are worth more, try your luck applying to a better position.
Quiet Quitting has been a thing as long as unappreciative bosses have been a thing. Most of the employers I have worked for do not care about hard work, overtime, or dedication. Most promotions are decided by social connections and diversity. The few employers I have worked for that cared about hard work and overtime made it a point to never promote anyone who was a hard worker. Instead of quiet hiring they should call it: "We are finally recognizing our hard workers for their merit. That thing we should have been doing for years."
I remember bosses telling me, "My department depends on you, you are reliable, you are right were the company needs you." When I was trained for leadership at one company the mentor they placed me with told me that promotions are retention measures and not rewards. That mentor followed up with discussing why promoting a high performer only hurts the productivity of your department. Seeing it from the management side of things was eye opening.
@digital dirtbag The fact that many employers won't even let non-diversity hires even apply for a promotion to fill a quota is concerning.
If you told a diversity individual, nah you're not white you can't even apply for this promotion, then that manager would probably be fired.
But it is okay to say: nah we really need diversity hires in these positions, regardless of your work ethic, attendance, length of employment, or dedication we won't even consider you because you aren't an individual of diversity. We are going to pick that individual with worse attendance, worse performance, and almost no dedication to the company, because it makes our company look better on the quotas.
When you decide who can even apply for a promotion based on race, color, sexual orientation, gender, and nationality instead of actual performance or merit that is called racism or bigotry......... except if it is done against non-diversity individuals.....then its just fine.
When you work for large employers you eventually hit the "diversity glass ceiling" where promotions and positions really thin out unless your someone that can fill a quota.
I find any sort of promotion that looks at race instead of merit, or length of employment, quite concerning.
As long as you keep up with your personal development, no one can touch you. When people get comfortable/lazy and stop learning the issue arises.
while I do see your point and agree with you, the reality of the situation is people are being expected to work10-12 hour days, 6 days a week. Toss in a family or any sort of life and there is no time to work on personal development even if you wanted to. I speak of my own person experience. And this entire mess isn't new, workers are just waking up to what is happening. This has been basically my entire corporate career going back to 2002
So now we are calling firing, “quiet hiring”. Layoffs will happen and firing will happen anyway
There is no leverage. No money, no work, period.
It’s going to be a quiet auction for some companies that continually can’t make the right decision on who is good and who is bad
Your manager is not your career advocate. Because as soon as you go to them wanting more money or a promotion, they have a new problem to solve. If it is not given freely, then dont request it. They are busy enough as it is and do not have time for all the paperwork and hoops in order to get you what you have requested. The best strategy here is suck it up and wait for an opening, or look for another job. You will save yourself much grief in the end by not wondering why you havent heard anything about your raise/promotion, having to follow up etc. Its agonizing and best just to move on.
It's literally just one HR lady coming up with "buzzwords" for shit people were always doing anyway. Everyone at some point has gotten "quiet hired". And a lot of us have at some point "quiet quit".
As usual, the best defense for an individual is just to learn a sought after field, and become as knowledgeable about that field and humanly possible for you. That way you open up options for yourself.
My employer just rolled out a bonus structure for individuals that one can only get monthly if the entire team one is on hits a certain metric yet no one knows what that monthly goal is because “it changes daily.” They just let us know a day or two before the month ends how far away from it each team is?! I guess that this what this is “Quiet Hiring.” They also added a new metric which means one has to be on the phone all the the time now, yet they do not want to call this call center work. The problem is they have burned most of the employees out…even if one is scaling back we are doing the work of 2-3 roles per person. So I am not sure how long the “Quiet Hiring” phase is going to last
Sounds pretty toxic. How can you be judged for a monthly bonus if they don't tell you the metric? And whatever that metric is, it changes daily?
Sounds impossible to beat
Sounds like an impossible ever moving target like throwing darts from 50 yards away needing to hit a bullseye
That employer is just ridiculous.
@@morgancornwall3254 that's exactly the point
Thank goodness I'm in a union. Quiet quitting has improved my mental health and my life/work balance. I feel for those of you duking it out without any protections.
Work is like a Hulu account. Pay me cheap you get the bare minimum. Want me to do more work not in my job description? Gotta pay for the add-on. Recognition doesn't pay the bills.
It isnt new. My last company has been doing this since 2019. When ppl got "released" their replacement magically showed up the following Monday and had been already working, training for a week or two. It sucks and is really passive aggressive and I hate it
Quiet hiring isn’t a trend. It’s common. Always has been in my 40+ year life.
All of this is basically silly HR ppl who were shook by the large amounts of ppl who decided that the 19th century business model that they desperately cling to deserves to be rejected.
New employment trends we will see in 2023:
Quiet downsizing > Fully Remote workers will be chatting on teams calls or by email to their managers and colleagues, but in reality
they got fired, and are really chatbots and AI's. The company downsized 1 year ago!
Quiet PIPing > They feel your performance is lacking, so they will put you on a PIP, but you won't know!
Quiet Management > Individual contributors won't be notified who management actually is, so they will blend in among you
and ask your thoughts on management!
They already have a company that does these things - Infosys!
Employees who stand have never gotten anything in return for it except being rewarded with more work. 🙄 whenever companies & corporations reward employees its usually with cheap gifts. My friend was just named employee of the month & you know what he got? A pen, hand sanitizer, lotion & a pack of face mask.
In the world of engineering (and I would think this actually applies universally), this is par for the course. The company won't promote you to the next rung unless you've demonstrated already that you're doing the work that the next rung requires you to do. This takes place for at least two years and sometimes it's a luck of the draw type thing, if you can call it luck, that you'd even be given projects that are high profile enough to keep you moving up. It's a symptom of a rigid HR financing structure that the company is supposedly buying down the risk on employee investment when in reality, a lot of people will just job hop to get compensated.
This comment was gold. Now that you said it I see it. It's so obvious but I hadn't realised this yet. You only get a raise/promotion after you have already been doing that work for a long time.
In fact, bosses may quietly let you do the work and never uprank you, unless you yourself notice and demand it.
Yup, my company does this often and I see the justification too. There is a risk though because if a team lead is doing project manager work for an extended period waiting for the official promotion, the company risks the worker getting fed up and leaving for a real manager position (with high pay).
If getting promoted is your goal, go above and beyond.
If you don’t want a promotion, do what you’re paid to do. You’re employer will be just fine and you will too. Not sure what the big deal is
It's rare to get promoted. You'll go above and beyond and in the end they'll hire someone from outside.
I've gone above and beyond many, many times, and got fired for it. Apparently the folks who was helping out with workload felt threatened or something
Nothing guaranteed
@@davidrosa3182So then we can disregard your advice. If working harder has no causal relation (isn't guaranteed like you said) to getting a raise or promotion but might result in it, then any other course of action which might achieve either of those is just as viable. Those lazy nepo babies and promoted past competency managers don't come from nowhere and they definitely don't come from hard or smart workers.
Yes! The music is back!
I missed it too.
I'm glad its back.
Being a contractor looks better all the time.
How about "Quiet Firing". This has happened to me more than once. This is when your job hires a new person and puts them in your vicinity. They then give them all the tools to do your job better than you and layers them with a bunch of praise while they start to treat you as though nothing you do is good enough. They do this because they know if you quit then you don't qualify for unemployment, so they just replace you while you're still there. The person that takes the new position will get treated like you always wish you had been treated as an employee. This is incredibly common. Especially when you work for women employers.
Unemployment rates still at historic lows. Yes, the tech sector has been laying off 5-10%, but even then it’s because they expanded far beyond those numbers during the pandemic, for a net-gain overall. Maybe this “quiet hiring” is the next step after the unemployment rate goes back up.,
Those expensive quiet quitters will be the first to be let go
Your volume is outstanding! *Thank* you.
I respectfully disagree that "quiet quitting" is a new trend. The name is new, but employers wanting to get rid of employees that they cannot exploit to the maximum is definitely not a new thing. It's just a new name, and it feels like a passive-aggressive way of threatening employees if they don't do more. Again, nothing new.
NO loyalty to employers, No matter what. Minimalism all the way.
I can confirm what you said. I work in cybersecurity. They fired two of my team member yesterday, however I got another big raise. They are hiring new engineers to replace them.
Be carful the way you quiet quit. Need to smart on everything.
I haven't quiet quit, so I'm happy to listen to this video. 😀
If anything, I've been quiet hired. Not only am I doing my job, but I've taken on tasks that were being done by a coworker that recently quit.
Just a new name for something old.
Were you given a pay raise along with your extra duties? If not, that's called exploitation
@@barbaraeslick558 I agree. I wasn't given a pay raise. However, I am fortunate in that the company and boss I work for are overall very good. This is a temporary situation while we find someone to replace my former colleague, so I'm fine with taking up extra duties temporarily.
However, if this persists, then I'm going to ask for more money.
To clarify, when I think of quiet quitting, I think of someone that is pretending to work while goofing off or looking for another job.
Doing your job and no more is not quitting. It's deciding that you value work-life balance, which in my book is totally acceptable. Not everyone salivates at the prospect of climbing the corporate ladder and becoming a big shot.
The States is so stuffed, is horrible the lack of values in companies.
On the flip side, there’s plenty of high achievers that due to their high achievements, got significantly more work and still got laid off in the end.
This whole quiet quitting thing has some people throwing away opportunities. I know three people that are claiming to want to move up. All three were on a list to move up to significantly higher paying positions. They all decided to "quiet quit" a few months back. Those positions have now opened up and not only are they no longer slated to get them two are on the terminate as soon as possible list. This whole "quiet" quitting or hiring thing has been going on since before I started in the workforce. Higher ups take advantage of employees and some just refuse to to do more than they feel like they are being paid for. Often the only way to move up is show you are ready and willing but expect to be compensated.
I like a channels that cut to the chase. However, you start to define quiet hiring at 2 minutes 25 seconds. That’s a lot of fluff in the beginning. Could you cut that in half?
You may prefer my TikTok channel for shorter content.
This is a different take than I saw as "quiet hiring". I thought it was companies trying to avoid hiring then having to lay off workers due to cyclical conditions (via cross training current employees augmented by hiring contract work during times of a sudden need for labor which is unlikely to be maintained long-term). It is costly to hire, train, then lay off workers and a means to prevent that is to upskill those employees you have. Perhaps just a "glass half empty" vs a "glass half full" perspective?
This is less of a problem if you keep looking and interviewing for new jobs and continue to have more than one job if they let you work from home. Be empowered!
Companies having to learn the hard way that if you keep gouging your employees, sooner or later, they'll start gouging you back and rightly so. You reap what you sow.
These employees are usually just "rewarded" with more work and "promises and excuses" as to why the real rewards will come, but are not there yet. Definitely nothing new. Regardless of the new buzz word, the blame is always on the employees.
printing money is what made money worth less, and what made workers less likely to want to work more (because it not worth)
Great content!
It’s happening at my job. I am an RN and it’s not fair to us that went through the last two year’s going over and above. But also I think every company is feeling the pinch. You laid out some good options. I’m thinking of a lateral move might be a step up. Thanks!
“Lateral move” quit nursing?
I'm a nurse as well. I was able to get into Informatics last year, but I moved up to supervisor in my last job.
I found that alot of hospitals are focused more on not paying as much for the work and increasing work load. I got tired of the COVID excuse pretty quick, as the decisions that led to short staffing started before Covid. They continue to struggle keeping people because nurses leave once they cam get a better job.
The best hospitals in my area, that treat employees well, are hard to get in as there is high competition to work there.
Those hospitals are still doing well and don't seem to have as many issues as the others.
This is nothing more than a ploy to get people to work even harder again. Its been happening forever with the promises of promotions, raises, aka the dangling carrot. The whole Quiet Hiring term is just dumb.. not sure why this is even a video (while I do love most of your content). I've been left with nothing but disgust from failed promises, non-existent or less than CoL raises, or some other made up stuff companies come up with. The companies that do this stuff are the same ones actively block your transfer or promotion because the "can't afford to lose you" when you are too good at the job you are doing. Its all a mind game - don't let them take it back.
I worked for a company years ago where I saw highly productive people given more responsibility, more tasks, but most of them went to other companies because they were not promoted, and all their effort taken for granted.
I don’t know who needs to hear this but if these kinds of workplace politics are costing you your mental, physical and emotional health, then you either need to take yourself out of this situation and do whatever you need to do to leave it at all costs or it will cost you your life and no workplace or job or career is worth your actual life.
It was this exact toxic carrot dangling of nonexistent promotions and nonexistent pay raises and unrealistic expectations of loading you up with not only more tasks than what’s detailed in your job description but more than what is physically possible to get through and achieve for one person in a day (regardless of the +15 extra hours of unpaid overtime I was doing every week just to keep up) that made me literally quit my entire industry and career pathway. I was working in music publishing but through having to go through the horrific mental health challenges that these kinds of toxic workplace politics and manipulations put me through, I was actually led to find a brand new life purpose and career pathway altogether (I’ll be starting my Masters asters of Music Therapy to become a registered music therapist next month). Not only will I no longer have to navigate the corporate world where sales and business profits are the only thing that matters, I can also gear my entire workday around helping people with their disabilities and mental health challenges. I can just concentrate purely on bringing people joy and easing their mental burden and struggles instead of just making more and more sales and money for a company that didn’t even care that they pushed me to the point of being suicidal (even when I openly admitted that I was struggling so bad with my mental health that while I was coping that poorly, I just needed an hour a week even if it was taken out of my 50 min lunch break to slink away and see my psychologist to help me cope which they thought was unreasonable to use my sick leave for and wanted to just dock it from my pay and put it down as unpaid leave). People kept quitting so their workload kept gradually falling to me as the company wasn’t rehiring for their positions so I was achieving at least double as many sales as any other person in my role globally for the company and still managing to keep up with the additional 3 people that had left my team that had not been rehired for over a year. You can put your heart and your soul into a job but quiet quit not even because you are choosing to but because of burn out (I still maintained my same sales stats when I burnt out though, I just stopped consistently doing the 15+ hours of additional overtime and prioritised my tasks so that sales and good workmanship were the first things on my to do list everyday that were ticked off). You will still never impress your employer because they will always see your 200 or 300% that you’ve always given as just 100% or sometimes even less and they will treat you like you are giving them 20% when you try to scale it back to 100% which is just really reverting to what is in your contract hours wise and task wise. All they will see is what you’ve taken away from them and not the years you spent giving them double or triple the output of the next best person in your company.
You can make yourself so sick and put yourself in a situation that causes you so much pain you’d rather be asleep than awake or even worse, not alive. Your company will just replace you and not think twice about everything you sacrificed for them and how much you gave to them and was never appreciated or respected for.
So while you can learn to play the corporate games and learn how to navigate all the politics that come imbedded in these structures, no one ever gives you the option to opt out and shift your career focus towards one where you don’t have to play these games and keep up with the exhausting and mind boggling political processes of the corporate world that will always work against the people who will always give 200% because that’s just who they are on a work environment until they burn out because it’s unsustainable and the company then looks for a way to replace them with a fresh eager hard working “200 percent-er”. It took me a few sessions with a psychologist to work out what I valued and what I had to offer and what career path to channel that into so that my work life could never have that power over me again, but it can be done. I gave up a career I thought I’d be doing until I was retired and a career that I spent years studying, interning for free and working the shitty underpaid overworked positions for this career path because I wanted it so badly. I thought I’d never find any job as fulfilling as the one I had before (I supervised aka picked out music for films, tv shows and advertisements and put together playlists of tracks that would work for clients projects so it was a pretty creative and cool role). But my new life purpose of helping people over making people money is a bigger more fulfilling life for me than working in the music industry ever could be for me. Not sure why I shared all of that except to say if you feel like you are forced to and stick with playing these corporate games and navigating the mind boggling unspoken and unrewarding status quo, I’m here to tell you that you can not only think outside the box about your career options, you can tear up the damn box, throw it away and stop trying to put a square peg into a round hole. You just have to take a moment to really sit with yourself, work out what you value in life/what makes you happy and whether your current job or career path aligns with those values/ gives you joy and purpose and you may even find that the answer to those questions surprises even you yourself.
Also, if you’re reading this and you are stuck in an awful work situation, just know that you are not alone and you don’t have to struggle with it alone. Even just chatting to a friend/ trusted person/ family member or life coach/therapist/psychologist can help ease the burden and pain that you are going through even if they don’t have any of the answers because it’s much easier to go through with others support than alone and keeping it bottled up like I did for so long. You always have choices even if it feels like they are all being taken away from you or they are not the options you want. Just taking back the power and making your own decisions instead of being at the mercy of waiting for your workplace to sack you because you are struggling and unhappy will feel better because you will feel like you are in control.
And for whoever needs to hear it, you’ve got this and I believe you’ll come through the other side and feel happy again because I’ve been there, done it, grew stronger from it and purchased the metaphorical “T-shirt” to prove it 😂
Hey Brian. Hope you and your family are well. I have an idea for a video. Can you create a video on pros and cons of being promoted too quickly? Just an idea. Keep up the great content!
So quiet hiring is rewarding those that are already hired by the company who have perform well. It's not exactly hiring is it? In fact, it's just a new buzzword because new year that actually has no weight in its meaning. And you didn't call this out...
Question: if these think tanks pitch this bull corn and companies follow through then fall apart, are these think tanks liable?
100% support quiet quitting or whatever you call it I’ve been doing that my Whole career Work is just work it drives me crazy when people treat their job like it’s their life I’d rather do what I need to do and go hang out with my Kids and family not making some jack ass more money that I’m never going to see and on top of that every five years or so you should probably find a new job or start looking to see if anything is better I’ve noticed that a lot of companies hire managers from outside the company so to get a promotion just seems like u can’t be at a company for your whole life anymore I hope one day companies realize your work life balance is way more important Then making them more Bonuses
When my co worker shared with me they were being "let go" I had no idea our department was next. The so called, "Scale down" of departments trickled down to my job (from the top down). So, after loyalty to our employer I am seeking for remote position. What do you suggest? I need help with my resume.
Excellent !
Hey LAL...I've recently heard of yet another workplace trend called the "Silent Sabbatical". Apparently these folks are practitioners of Quiet Quitting who are using their new found workplace downtime to re-skill. I'm guessing they're hoping to use these new skills to get Quiet Hired into a promotion.
That's a good use of the extra time!
I have seen countless times myself and also heard countless stories of people who basically run an entire section of a company by themselves or do the work of 5 people, this 1 lady did 1100 of the 1400 orders that year with 4 other people doing it as well and what she got was a big old layoff. And they even fire people and then call them back to finish up with clients for free.
Both quiet quitting and quiet hiring are shameful. Quiet quitting is when an employer forced an employee to quietly quit because they are demoted and delegated to do no meaningful things. The employer then labels it as quiet quitting. Quiet hiring is just a fancy word employers use to promote people within, or have employees take on roles that they can’t fill because the pay or job is dull.
My job went to Mexico back in August after a corporate merger. That’s what being a high achiever got me!
None of this is new... I have been on the hiring end and quitting side. As a hiring manager, I would hire people all the time in the anticipation of replacement of people who aren't performing.
Lol why does everything have to have a "thing". None of these things have been new or even within the past decade. Employer/employee relationships are typically super toxic relationships of who can use who best. It is unfortunate and shouldn't be that way, but if you work for an organization that does these things, vote with your feet. If you are a manager who does these things, you definitely are more resilient than I am if you can look at yourself in the mirror when you do that stuff and not feel shame. Using and abusing people is a sign of a toxic organization/person.
This Friday. Out of the blue, my supervisor came up to me and said, "Your contract's funding is coming to an end on the 27th, and I don't see it changing," which felt like a bucket of cold water. Because for one, my company supervisor never informed me, and my government supervisor always said he couldn't discuss salary or time remaining until this Friday. A month earlier, they had hired another contractor, which was supposed to have a different role than mine, but I realized this whole time I was preparing that new contractor for my position. Almost 5 years and after one lousy raise, they do this shit to me, i wont find a job opening who knows when of exactly what i do with this short notice. But it is my fault for not seeing it!
Hang on, that’s EXACTLY what quiet quitting was for in the first place!
This isn’t a new trend. This is exactly the same system that has always existed in my industry. Nothings changed. We evaluated this during the cost/benefit analysis of quite quitting and knew it wasn’t worth it.
Same old BS with a name to the BS
Quiet hiring has been very common in my life.
Oh man this resonates. I was an innovator (frankly, the impetus) in a small biz til Covid. I was then sought out by a client (guess client relations do pay off!) to work for a massive company (ok, Disney). Grateful for guild benefits and such but I don’t fit well with the role. Will do it bc I can but it’s nowhere near as satisfying as the small biz autonomy. Hey! Win some lose some. Bleh. Bring on 65! 😂😩😊
if a companey wont pay you for extra extectations then why do it? i get payed very well and with that have a very long list of dutys. but there are sum things wont do. cuz not in my pay grade.
My job just gutted the wfh policy and they moved a person from my team. I now have more work, more travel expenses and the same pay. I’m losing money
Quiet Quitting: A term bad managers came up with to shame employees doing exactly what they were hired to do and not going above and beyond. It's a long earned thing; low "merit increases", low or no raises, no recognition for going above and beyond. Managers that have noticed the "quiet quitting" are probably witnessing once hyperproductive employees just not try so hard after they've been utterly unrewarded for their efforts, or their reward is just more work. 1.5% raise when there's a 7% inflation? Yeah, I wont be doing that "above and beyond" thing anymore.
1:05 into the video and I'm going to take a wild guess what "Quiet Hiring" means.
Quiet hiring is when employers hire new employees without any announcement or explanation despite the employee base appearing fully staffed. Why?
They're getting ready to phase out employees who aren't meeting expectations and this way they already have replacements trained and ready once they decide who's getting cut from the team😏
Hey you added your intro to your videos again! I missed seeing them. Lol
This was exactly the opposite of what happened to me and why I realized that I was working in a toxic environment.
The company I work for has been doing 'quiet hiring' for years. It's called the boss having favourites......
that "quiet quitting" advice from recruiters was quite clever, now all those people are laid off and you plenty of work filling the positions 😅
Quiet hiring - meaning actually being rewarded for going above and beyond... like what we wanted in the first place. Imagine that
My current employer has been slowly adding more and more responsibilities to my role. They continue to cross train us in more and more stuff so we can help out other departments.. I'm all for helping out but I'm like 'if i wanted to do this department's work I would have chosen to switch to that department when you offered." Hopefully these are temporary additions to my responsibilities.
How is this new or different? Analysis severely flawed. The quiet quitters are the ones who tend to stay and stay with the same employer. Quiet hiring is a fairy tale. The top performers are rarely appreciated, until they leave for higher pay and a promotion with another department or new employer.
@digital dirtbag Absolutely. He should have just called it what it is. BS.
I've had a job I took very seriously and pushed myself to the point of burnout. I even went to work and finished my shift with a 102 degree fever.
Ask my manager if I could have my 2 days off next to each other to get more rest and have time with family and she exploded.
I found another job 2 weeks later
I am quite quiting and it's working for me
The Problem is though, those High-Flyiers are sought after.
If you don't pay them exactly what they think they are worth, they are out the door as soon as a better opportunity arises
Quiet Hiring is very common situation when a company reorganizes and lays off. Remaining employees would double or triple workload than was.