Yamaha Pacifica Vs. GFS Xavier PRO870 - AFFORD-A-STRAT - One stays one will be GIVEN AWAY!

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  • Afford-A-Strat is FINALLY BACK! this time I shoot out a long standing favorite of budget guitar lovers the Yamaha Pacifica (amzn.to/3qMzZb4)
    against the previous winner, The Xavier PRO870 (bit.ly/3qO3nhm)
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  • @StevenBelong72
    @StevenBelong72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I have owned a lot of Yamaha guitars over the years including several Pacificas and they have all been amazing guitars, even the budget models.

  • @superfit60
    @superfit60 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Pacifica is a tank and much more versatile than the single coil only Xavier...I would pick the Pacifica hands down... There are many pickguard companies that have pickguard upgrades for the Pacifica now... I know because i upgraded mine into a HH.... making it more of shredder guitar.. The red color is fantastic on the Pacifica!.....If you looking for the classic strat tone then go Xavier...

  • @tns4421
    @tns4421 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The 612 ii etc costs less than a player strat and comes really loaded (seymour duncan, grover locking tuners, split coil, tusq nut etc).....very very impressive package indeed!!

  • @briano.1503
    @briano.1503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The Pacifica is a fantastic guitar!
    That said , Yamaha is a top quality company. Everything I've owned or used with the Yamaha name on it has been awesome!

    • @KelticKabukiGirl
      @KelticKabukiGirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They have been around since the late 1800s, they are the Gibson and Fender of Japan. I have pedals, an acoustic Electric and a 1977 Yamaha SG800 with a Kahler and it DESTROYS any Les Paul I have ever played. Sold my LP custom!

  • @Stratisfied22
    @Stratisfied22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    The Pacifica is legendary for a reason. It's always been a go to budget guitar you can count on.

    • @luismangiaterra1031
      @luismangiaterra1031 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Pacifica don't sound like any music I ever heard, what about the body style?
      Wonder what Eric Clapton
      SRV
      Ingvai Malmsteen
      Jimmie Hendrix
      Ect,ect would say about the Pacifica?
      Or even their acoustic guitars for that matter.
      The cable Jack is better location on top because it won't accidentally be damaged when putting it down and it's not a problem having it there, on the other hand where the Pacifica has it, it can easily be damaged.

    • @KelticKabukiGirl
      @KelticKabukiGirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@luismangiaterra1031 WTF are you talking about?

    • @luismangiaterra1031
      @luismangiaterra1031 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KelticKabukiGirl this guy is payed by Yamaha for the video, your new to guitar playing and don't know much yet.
      Ask yourself, why professional musicians don't use Yamaha?
      All guitars have their own sound that can sometimes be recognized just by listening.
      Good luck practicing your new hobby, and don't be easily fooled by advertising.

    • @KelticKabukiGirl
      @KelticKabukiGirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@luismangiaterra1031 hahhaahhahahhhaa, oh kid you have no idea who I am apparently. I have been shredding and singing since 1989. I have been gigging, recording and did some touring since then. I have a 1977 Yamaha SG800, the kind they made for SANTANA! Japanese made guitars are amazing and Yamaha is Older than Gibson. I also have a half assed gear channel turning full assed as soon as the studio is done infact. I even have Joyo and a Boutique Cable builder already sponsoring videos. Ryan is giving an honest opinion. Pacificas are great entry level guitars. Better than my first POS. I even have a video of me shredding a $75 Glarry strat I got and it screams. Of you can't polish frets and set up a guitar that's your problem, nooooooooob!

    • @KelticKabukiGirl
      @KelticKabukiGirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@luismangiaterra1031 oh yeah, lead guitarist of 3 Inches of Blood and the old guitarist of Baroness used Yamaha SGs... do a bit of research before you ooze mouth diarrhea. If you can't play a cheap guitar, you might not be that good...

  • @stuarthelmn3699
    @stuarthelmn3699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great comparison, for what it's worth I think you said it in the video, when squiers were cheap and horrible, the Pacifica was amazing. I think everyone else has caught up and the choice for starter guitars is amazing now. Not just cheap for a hobbyist to set up but ready to play out the box no knowledge required

  • @willepete0088
    @willepete0088 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a cheap n dirty squire player myself. I picked up this very same Pacifica a year ago and couldn’t put it down, it became my soloing workhorse and I absolutely love putting rhythmic and melodic pieces together with it. I appreciate it for the found inspiration it gave me. Stellar guitar and stellar video!

  • @murfmurphy6212
    @murfmurphy6212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I think as a standalone beginner guitar the Yamaha just takes it on versatility. As a classic Strat and as a future upgrade platform its the Xaviere. Xaviere for me, but only just.

  • @mindfall82
    @mindfall82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like the pickups in the Xaviere, also love the gold color. I'm not a fan of red so that may have swayed me towards the Xaviere. Colors aside, Yamaha have been making great instruments for a long time and there are people who swear by the Pacificas. If I had to choose between those particular guitars it would be the Xaviere

  • @williedeuel
    @williedeuel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I think it's valid to score in favor of the Xaviere on the grounds of "Strattiness." The Afford-a-Strat is an affordable Strat competition, and while some of the Pacifica's attributes may be better for some players I think it gets docked points for being less Strat-like.

  • @1973larryrichardson
    @1973larryrichardson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just came across this channel recently. I really appreciate the objective and unbiased views and reviews. Thanks Ryan. Great work!

    • @60CycleHumcast
      @60CycleHumcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      everyone has bias, but i try to stay as self aware as I can. Welcome to the channel!

  • @KelticKabukiGirl
    @KelticKabukiGirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have no idea why Yamahas go down in value so hard, they are amazing guitars. Been a company since the late 19th century! I have their pedals, an acoustic Electric and a 77 Yamaha SG800 with a Kahler and it destroys any Les Paul I have ever played. Especially with the symmetrical cutaways! 13lbs Doom monster! I learned on my mom's early 70s Yamaha as well, and since the guitar was stolen and she died 12 years ago. There is sentimental value in Yamaha for me as well. Plus the 1980 Yamaha FL1 Flanger is the same as the Korg and Pearl Flanger aS Korg was the OEM, but noone knows that so you can get them from Japan on Ebay foe $60! Amazing flanger! And not close to $400 like the Pearl and Korg, just a tip! Also, a Pacifica and a Revstar are night and day!

  • @daleturner3507
    @daleturner3507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Sweetwater has the surf green Squier Strat for $249 I’d say that’s the next step in the series.

  • @lofibynature
    @lofibynature 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice outro jam! Thanks for doing these videos. Even though so much is subjective, it's helpful to see someone interact with the guitars on camera.

  • @charlie-obrien
    @charlie-obrien 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yet another great and enjoyable series. Thanks 60 CH.
    I feel the younger you are, the more you would be attracted to the Pacifica, even if the Xaviere is a bit better.
    It's really "newer look and play vs traditional". But of course, "The more you know...
    Also, I'm glad to see you giving GFS a little love, because most forums and channels tend to look down on, or ignore the brand. I can say that I have always had a good experience with their stuff.
    And talk about modding!.....
    That Kwik Plug system is great for trying out new pick ups.

  • @MashaT22
    @MashaT22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What if you changed your scoring to being strictly numeric? Like you give each guitar up to a score of 10 for each category rather than a check mark - because then when you add up the numbers’ total, the end result would look a lot closer.

  • @DrewsReviews07
    @DrewsReviews07 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stoked on my Xavier!! It makes me happier than something that says Squire. Thanks for this series and I hope you continue it soon.

  • @danielshafer3227
    @danielshafer3227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can get pick guards as well as anything else to mod up your Pacifica. Also noone talks about the fret radius on Yamahas which is a clear advantage.

  • @Crsdawg
    @Crsdawg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Something I'd like to see with this series is one of these $200ish new guitars vs. a typical $200ish used guitar. I know the used market is fluid...but I've seen a lot of the same makes/models in the $200 and under range (usually LTD, Scheter, Ibanez, and etc) that sold for $400ish when new. It would be interesting to see if getting a used guitar that originally sold at a higher price point (and with all the gotchas of a used guitar) is a better value than a brand new, but lower end instrument.

    • @60CycleHumcast
      @60CycleHumcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      yeah that would be a hard metric to normalize because sometimes deals are way outside the norm. Like I have a gibson SG I paid $250 for, does that mean I should compare a $250 new guitar to it? no because I got a great deal on it. And some used guitars hold their value much better than others. It's a tricky proposition.

    • @joeking433
      @joeking433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nowadays you will only get a used $200 guitar that was $200 new. Don't waste your time.

    • @60CycleHumcast
      @60CycleHumcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joeking433 true. The used market is bonkers right now. I have a feeling the huge bump Covid gave to guitar sales will lead to a crash in used prices eventually though.

    • @luismangiaterra1031
      @luismangiaterra1031 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what I was thinking , may even find a deal on a ESP.

    • @Crsdawg
      @Crsdawg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joeking433 This has not been my experience. The reason why I brought up the idea is due to my own guitar search. I had considered a cheap no name guitar but in the end I picked up a LTD MH-100 for $180 (from Guitar Center of all places). I chose it over a similar Schecter that was priced at $150 (but it was in worse cosmetic condition). I just checked GCs website and there is another LTD like mine available at the same price. Another example...I'm currently selling a Squire Affinity Strat on Reverb, the model that retails for $289...while researching pricing I found that they commonly sell for $150ish. Some are more but if you don't mind a few cosmetic blemishes that price or lower was pretty common. It just seems to me if you don't mind a few scratches or dings...higher end guitars are available in this price range.

  • @axtonkahler7360
    @axtonkahler7360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bought my daughter a Pacifica used for her first full sized electric and we added a 2nd string tree for the D and G bc the strings kept skipping the nut. Replaced the cheap bent metal on the OE tree at the same time with a pair of matching rollers. Perfect little mod for a great beginners guitar.

    • @charlie-obrien
      @charlie-obrien 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the younger you are, the more you would be attracted to the Pacifica, even if the Xaviere is a bit better.
      It's really "newer look and play vs traditional".
      I'm sure your daughter loves her Pacifica.

  • @kellyb9432
    @kellyb9432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Easy mods are essential to put it in Strat territory, whereas the Yamaha has a bit of Ibanez in it. Thanks for this, I've always been a bit Pacifica curious.

  • @MikeYeary
    @MikeYeary 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I personally like that Pacifica better, but maybe a better way to score your guitar checklists, would be with a "5 points per section" rating system, instead of either "yay, nay, or tie"

    • @60CycleHumcast
      @60CycleHumcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      maybe, I a 3 point rating might be better for me to wrap my head around: bad/normal/good

    • @MrSJPowell
      @MrSJPowell 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@60CycleHumcast I addition to that kind of grading scale, perhaps consider splitting the subjective things from the objective things, and weigh the objective more heavily?
      I'd separate the neck into fretboard and neck shape. Neck shape can be very subjective. The treatment of the frets generally isn't.
      Perhaps consider the weight? Is it overly heavy? Is the guitar full thickness for a Strat, or is it thinner? It looked like the Yamaha was thicker than the Xavier, but that could have been the bevel on the edge.
      Another metric might be the quality of electronics?
      The ability to find readily available replacement parts should totally be a metric.
      On the other hand, something like aesthetics might be something you consolidate into less metrics? Perhaps have the appearance only factor into the one point, so headstock, body shape might be one thing, while comfort of play might be a second metric?

    • @60CycleHumcast
      @60CycleHumcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrSJPowell I really like the idea of splitting subjective and objective. I’m gonna do that.

  • @dbreardon
    @dbreardon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have that Yamaha PAC 112V with the split coil humbucker. $309....highly recommend it.

  • @TranscendentBen
    @TranscendentBen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    27:49 "And the neck." Oh yeah! THAT's a nice stratty sound, That Neck Strat Pickup Sound. These both appeared good up to this point, but now I want the Xavier, it's a Moar Better strat-sounding strat-style guitar. Certainly not the best I've heard on youtube, but the best in this video.

  • @DefenderTIM
    @DefenderTIM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Pacifica, like my Cutlass, fixes a lot of things I hate about Strats: the volume knob, the tone controls, the output jack; but if I had to pick my favorite Strat on the current market then I'm really digging the Squier Contemporary Special HT (at least on paper).

    • @KelticKabukiGirl
      @KelticKabukiGirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I need Humbuckers myself. Single coils are ok for solos but suck for low tuned heavy fuzz Progressive Doom!

  • @scottfranklin299
    @scottfranklin299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The D’Addario maintenance kit is an excellent idea! I’m sure you’ve sold enough of them to make the sponsorship very successful. I’ll be ordering one myself!

  • @CoryKlumper
    @CoryKlumper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So close! My edge goes to the Yamaha. I've had really good luck with Yamaha gear over the years. Thanks Mr. Hum.

  • @PaulCapps
    @PaulCapps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would be the Yamaha for me.I own the 3 single coil lower end Pacifica and a upper end model.

  • @TheM00ndawg
    @TheM00ndawg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a pacifica, the set up is great, not sure i like the voice of the pick ups though.

  • @sweettoof9002
    @sweettoof9002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've got a beat up 1991 Pacifica that I paid $75.00 for. It is a fine guitar for what it is - a student/low end strat like object. I like the in between 2 and 4 position sounds I get out of it and it weighs like 6 pounds. It has survived many gear purges, because I would rather have it than the $100 - $150 or so I could get for it. Also on mine the nut width is very narrow and the neck is super skinny. Perfect for a kid or beginner.

  • @rick00770
    @rick00770 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I traded for the metallic red, used, it is well made for a budget guitar, the neck was the best fit for me better than anything iv had lately, very fast and smooth, looks like the one you’ve got there. Iv played for over 50 years, as a lead guitar player, I can highly recommend this guitar, I like it better than the squire, pick ups get the job done, love the 5 way switch, stays in tune good, love the metallic red color. It really feels quality , solid, not too heavy. Great guitar . I’ve had higher priced guitars that didn’t play as good as this one. Thanks Ryan. Good video.

  • @FrankPiacitelli
    @FrankPiacitelli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the in-depth review of these, it's the next-best thing to trying out the guitar yourself. For what it's worth, I feel like Yamaha has carved out their own recognized, unique variation of the 'S' shape, they've been this shape since their inception in the early 90s, much like the Ibanez RGs have (IMHO) become their own thing. I actually like the Pacifica headstock a lot, and I feel like it looks much more "finished", to my eyes the Xaviere headstock looks like a blunt attempt to just slightly vary from Fender's design, to me it looks super-clunky compared to the rest of the guitar, which looks great.

  • @robphillips8351
    @robphillips8351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yamaha pac is a really stable neck, good quality woods but yes definitely not a traditional strat feel, more of a hard rock/shredder guitar.. good for that type of player. Xavier ive been curious about and almost purchased one, but have seen some negative reviews on other forums etc. But I'm starting to think quality has either improved or just some one off bad reviews undeserved.. my favorite cheaper guitar's are squiers with basic mods even the affinity gets into intermediate/dare I say professional territory reall quickly. Though I am referring to the telecaster variant..

    • @charlie-obrien
      @charlie-obrien 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've never bought a guitar from GFS (though, like you I have been very tempted), But I have gotten modding parts and installed the Kwik plug system and in short, the experience from packaging to playing has been as good as any of the others!
      Also cheaper! LoL

    • @vorpalblades
      @vorpalblades 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Guitar Fetish rules. The Xaviere's are great for the $, I bought 2 B-stock. The pickups and hardware ate also excellent for the price.

  • @julianmclean3869
    @julianmclean3869 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whoops!, I am similar to a few who have just discovered your review and Chanel !!!; only reason for posting some comments is I have had Fenders in different Models since 1979 (and a left hand which made it limited) ; I kept a 85 / 87 FujiGen with quite a few modifications (neck radius / frets / pick ups) still have it however two days ago I purchased a Specifica (right handed) and wow!!!; welcome to the 22nd Century!!; absolutely beautiful !; yes, higher gain pickups however means you can run / adjust the Amp down to suit and ultimately achieve a similar "Vintage sound"; I will be converting it to a lefty!; last but not least; it would be great to see a comment on the weight factor / comfort in your reviews !; regardless, well done and keep them coming !!!!

  • @Ninjametal
    @Ninjametal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a hoot to watch! I love the series.
    For scoring...I would take each positive category and assign a number 1-10 (e.g. tuning stability) noting that entries' importance; then simply add up the scores.
    Then, do the same for any bad qualities of each and subtract from their total. It will cut out ties, and be more accurate.
    You chose many subjective issues, which I am sure anyone else would do similarily when choosing a guitar to send off vs keep. As the Yamaha stayed in tune better, it seems reasonable you'd give it an edge in score to one or more of: tuners, nut, headstock, or bridge: as those are the primary components in tuning stability, but nope. You just picked the guitar you wanted to keep as the winner, and I'd have chosen the same. Despite technical differences, your mind was made up before the Yamaha was unboxed. But, it's okay, because you made the right choice.

  • @adrian_V99
    @adrian_V99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've owned Pacifica 112V and I find their tone "inorganic". The 13.75 radius is too flat for a Strat. The body strays from a Strat also. Give me a Classic Vibe any day.

  • @barbmelle3136
    @barbmelle3136 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From Leo: Good comparison. I know that for the test you need to keep parity on the price. The Yamaha you are testing has ceramic pickups, the $300 Pacifica's have Alnico 5 pickups, that are more mellow. (and nicer tuners) Thanks for your work.

  • @ritualdevices
    @ritualdevices 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure if you can get them in the US, but try and get hold of a Revelation (Entwistle) strat. RTS-57. Have the Daphne blue strat... A lot of guitar for the money. They don't advertise to keep the prices really low. Also have a Revelation 2 piece swamp ash tele which was only £300... Fantastic guitar. Cheers Ryan.

  • @jonlavigne3270
    @jonlavigne3270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think there was more than a bit of bias with some of the stuff you scored "even". For example, with the nut: the tuning stability clearly indicated the Pacifica has the better nut. It doesn't make as much of a difference in the results due to the subjective nature of some of the categories - I would rather have a rosewood fingerboard than a maple, and like the aesthetics of the Yamaha overall. But you were honest and I don't disagree with the actual results. Plus, "Friend is a Four Letter Word" is a good song.

  • @DennisAlvarezMusic
    @DennisAlvarezMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Ryan,
    I just wanted to say that I'm really enjoying this little series. You're comparing guitars that most of us can't go out and compare directly. I have two Classic Vibe Strats (50's & 60's). So I'm not looking to buy another guitar soon. But still this is fun and interesting. But it will probably help a lot of players who are trying to decide.

  • @bldallas
    @bldallas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Ryan, I’m your huckleberry and, while I am deeply enjoying this video, I am tired as heck and concerned I may fall asleep before you get to the part about the hoops we need to jump thru to have a shot at winning tonight’s second finisher. How’s that for a killer run-on sentence? Anyhow, can this serve as a placeholder, please, in case you announce the winner (hopefully me), before I wake up. Thanks man. I’ll make good tomorrow; promise. Bryan

  • @fen3184
    @fen3184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The last MIM Player Strat I bought was full of buffing compound under the pick guard, it was everywhere...

    • @60CycleHumcast
      @60CycleHumcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah thats common under the pickguards on a lot of guitars, unfortunately. The player plus i got recently has 100% clean routes, they are routed after all the finishing work is done now so you dont get that. but still.

  • @gregmock6808
    @gregmock6808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love Yamaha guitars....if you upgrade to a higher end Pacifica you get a really good giggable guitar at a classic vibe price...the necks are some of the easiest to play with your thumb over the low strings....you got the cheapest entry level Pacifica there...

    • @superfit60
      @superfit60 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even a pac012 is a good starter axe....the 112 is great and you can find them super cheap...

  • @simonzirians9080
    @simonzirians9080 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have purchased a few used Yamaha bodies, and rebuild them. You can get a SSS pickguard from Amazon. I rebuild a empty Yamaha body with HH pickguard. Howerver, I had to order from UK. But you can!

  • @sonsauvage
    @sonsauvage ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yamaha pacificas will always be the king of maximum playability for minimal dollars. There are other brands like Eart that offer incredible feature-sets for the money but they aren't as refined

  • @davidwalter2282
    @davidwalter2282 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please get one of the Donner 400 series strats. They are $199, but can be had for $170 with a coupon, readily found online. It has vintage split tuners, a push-pull knob, and a full tremolo block. It should give the Xavier a run for its money.

  • @AJvsEverything
    @AJvsEverything 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think one of the best budget Strat options out there of any brand is an Austin...you absolutely need to get your hands on one and try it out for this series...

    • @60CycleHumcast
      @60CycleHumcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ill look them up

    • @AJvsEverything
      @AJvsEverything 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@60CycleHumcast All 3 times I've picked them up I've been amazed with how amazing the fret finishing is and how good the pickups are...I have an Austin double cut sunburst (Gibson double cut knockoff) and my only complaint is the cheap pots and bridge (it's an older model, the newer ones are MUCH nicer now)...I think you'll love their Strats...

    • @blueleaftuber
      @blueleaftuber 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      does that company even exist anymore? their website is down and I don't see their guitars almost anywhere

    • @AJvsEverything
      @AJvsEverything 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blueleaftuber I just messaged the local guitar shop that was a dealer for them last fall, just waiting to hear back from him. Maybe they stopped making them? They're made in the Alvarez factory, so maybe something happened to Alvarez as well?

    • @danielshafer3227
      @danielshafer3227 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I read somewhere that you should never buy a Chinese guitar named after a city in Texas. I guess that includes Austin. Lol

  • @senseiruss
    @senseiruss หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this very well-presented comparison! I have a Xaviere LP and Tele style - I think they're great. I think I now have to get a Strat-style Xaviere.

  • @gregweber3387
    @gregweber3387 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a Yamaha Pacifica PAC012 last November. I played acoustic for a while and this was my first electric. I feel it's a really comfortable guitar. The neck and fret ends were some of the smoothest on any guitar I own (only my Martin is better). I like that it's not quite as quacky as a strat. Nice bright pickups, a little twang. It's really a versatile guitar that I've used for rock, country, rockabilly, and surf style music. Before I bought mine and read and watched plenty of reviews online and the Pacifica always did well compared to Squier and other entry level strat style guitars.

  • @halvach1998
    @halvach1998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Yamaha neck was my fave until I recently bought a Cort G110. Note that the Yamaha neck pocket is a different size from most others, makes interchangability a problem.

    • @superfit60
      @superfit60 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes that is true you cant slap a squire neck on it... but the neck is one of the reason to have a Pacifica it can shred if setup right...

  • @MikeS4628
    @MikeS4628 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a Pacifica 112 back mid 90s as a "beater" guitar. I have American made Strats, Charvel, Jackson, Gibson and so on but I spent so many hours playing that Yamaha that it's not the guitar that feels like home to me. It's so worn in. The neck profile was different then compared to the newer ones. They're beefier now. Not better or worse, just different. After all of these years it's still stock. I've used it live and to record. I don't use a trem so the bridge is decked and never gets used. I recently bought a Slick also sold by Guitar Fetish and I'm guessing made in the same place as the Xavier and the frets were a mess. I had to level and recrown the frets to just get it where notes don't choke or buzz. I was going to return it but since I'd never done a full fret job myself I decided it was a good candidate to give it a go and now it plays great.

  • @nicholasevans9465
    @nicholasevans9465 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm new to electric guitars but modability would be important to me as a beginner, but I like to tinker and change things. Got my first electric guitar a month ago (Squier Tele HH all black from GC) and I just finished replacing all the hardware, pots, switch and pickups to make it black and gold with a black pearl pickguard. Squier's routing required me to route out a small hump of wood to fit split pots in. Got it all done and it looks exactly how I wanted it to, and after some youtube videos I was able to fix the intonation.

  • @TranscendentBen
    @TranscendentBen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    17:30 One problem with leaving the backplate off is it getting mixed up with other backplates and not knowing which backplate goes to the guitar. Or maybe I'm just bad at keeping track of such things. It's only a problem if I want to sell it.

    • @KelticKabukiGirl
      @KelticKabukiGirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many backplates are the same, some are brand specific, but a Fender style backplate is a common spec. I always take them off.

    • @peterhicks6328
      @peterhicks6328 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      label the backplate when you take it off. easy to keep track then

  • @ColonelRPG
    @ColonelRPG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The only time I broke a jack was on an Epiphone Les Paul, and sure enough, the plastic broke :P

  • @gph2193
    @gph2193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought a used Pacifica for $27 at a thrift store. Best bang for the buck ever. The pick guard and jack cover plate are garbage. The rest of it, a good couch guitar that spanks like a strat. A TC Mojomojo works good to beef up the tone on it.

    • @superfit60
      @superfit60 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent score dude!!

  • @gahangore111
    @gahangore111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You just sold one of those kits after showing that magnet. So many lost screws could have been saved!!!!

  • @MrRafaztar
    @MrRafaztar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    however the pacifica is available worldwide in most shops and the xaviere isnt
    thanks for the free content

  • @waymoresound4875
    @waymoresound4875 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes, aftermarket or OEM type upgrades super significant !!

  • @nicholasevans9465
    @nicholasevans9465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ryan: Sorry for the reverb from the amp its too late to change that.
    Me (a complete beginner): Oh... yeah how dare you? (had no idea)

  • @Joelvete6
    @Joelvete6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Pacifica 112V is an improvement over this one. Better frets and better electronics.

  • @digitizer3627
    @digitizer3627 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love my old Yamaha ERG121 gigmaker pack. bought it in 2005. It is a double humbucker and single coil. Excellent all round basic rock guitar.

  • @1rwjwith
    @1rwjwith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I may have asked this before but how do these guitars compare with a Harley Benton of similar price? Thanks.

    • @charlie-obrien
      @charlie-obrien 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That sounds like another "Afford-a-Strat"

  • @davelanciani-dimaensionx
    @davelanciani-dimaensionx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 34:00, you nailed the sound of the GFS pickups. The GFS Vintage Staggers do exactly that - they are very "classic strat" in nature. The Yamaha Pacifica pickups are most likely cheaper ceramic pickups, which have a more "modern" focus.

  • @jeffleecust
    @jeffleecust 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this series but I would love to see you use a $200ish rig as well. Maybe affordaboard and monoprice tube amp.

    • @jeffleecust
      @jeffleecust 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also, since you are someone who has used one quite a bit, the used market for the Fender Super Champ X2 is down around the $200-$250 range. Solid choice or do you have a better suggested “do all” amp for $250 or less?

    • @charlie-obrien
      @charlie-obrien 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeffleecust
      Are they really that low now?
      For 250 bucks, I would snap up the Super Champ X2, all day long.

  • @BuddyChance401
    @BuddyChance401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @60cyclehum thanks for the new installment of the #afford-a-strat series. Any thought about doing a #afford-a-tele series??

    • @60CycleHumcast
      @60CycleHumcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Steve is pushing for that. I’d like to do an afford a offset

    • @DangerFalcon
      @DangerFalcon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@60CycleHumcast +1 for afford-an-offset. The Monoprice Indio DLX ones are suspiciously good for the price.

  • @allenaviation5746
    @allenaviation5746 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice. I like that you used a real masculine pocket knife for the unboxing instead of a wimpy utility knife. I don't know if I agree with your quality opinions of the newer Fender MIMs. I don't get too hung up on aesthetics but I would not pay $1k for the washed out cardboard look of a pau ferro board. I like my 2010 fender standard strat with a few upgrades that were pretty cheap to do.

  • @peskypesky
    @peskypesky 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would choose the Xaviere over the Yamaha for two reasons: I prefer the classic Strat design in terms of looks...and it would be a lot easier to swap out parts if you want to mod. But that doesn't mean the Yamaha is not a really nice guitar for the low price.

  • @zazoomatt
    @zazoomatt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I Love my Pacifica !

  • @peterhicks6328
    @peterhicks6328 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    here are some suggestions for your next afford-a-strat video. Glarry strat, Glen burton, Amoon, Wish no name, Best choice products, Jay turser, Harley benton. all are available on amazon.

  • @nelson1953
    @nelson1953 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, the Xaviere has a more crystal sound. The Pacifica is more muddy sound.

  • @chopper4484
    @chopper4484 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pacifica was my 1st Electric modded to SSS ( Fender Tex Mex Pups ). Pickguards are available
    but not common, but a little chiseling was needed because of the angled bridge pup in mine. So moddable but challenging!

  • @andreapasillas5803
    @andreapasillas5803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would definitely go with the Xavier guitar if I wanted a real Strat sound and feel. Didn't care for the Pacifica at all.

    • @ExperiencingNature
      @ExperiencingNature 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pacifica has a three single coil option. Not sure why Ryan didn't choose that option.

  • @bennettshapiro3117
    @bennettshapiro3117 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ryan, the nice thing about the Xaviere is the kwikchange pickups. They make a humbucker that would fit in the single coil bridge position... if you wanted to do an apple to apple comparison.

  • @jamesbenoit5252
    @jamesbenoit5252 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice guitars, expecially for the money, no doubt.
    I have a "Mexi-Strat," made in Mexico (obviously) and it is fantastic. About $400, HSS pick ups, it makes great Strat tone, but has the growl of the humbucker. Sounds so classic rock/metal.

  • @1973larryrichardson
    @1973larryrichardson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Based purely on ascetics the Xavier is the clear winner. The Pacifica is nice to be sure, but every one I have played has been a bit underwhelming.- My new favorite budget guitar is the Ibanez Azes40 for all the boxes. If you haven’t tried on, you definitely should. I have one and couldn’t be happier.

  • @JohnnyGuitaristOfficial
    @JohnnyGuitaristOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd like the finish of that Xavier on the pacifica with a black pickguard !

  • @jws1272
    @jws1272 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good trial of these 2 guitars. I myself actually have the "Darkside" (looks like Gilmour's "Black Strat") version of the previous generation of the XV870. It's a GREAT guitar for the money. The Yamaha sounds like a good buy as well. Ryan Burke, Henning Pauly (EytschPi42), and Dagan (PMTVUK) are my fave gear reviewers, because all of them give totally honest reviews, and they all LOVE what they do.............plus, Ryan & Henning throw some humor into the mix.

  • @maxonmendel5757
    @maxonmendel5757 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    mod-ability is a fair metric. ive been playing for ten years but im watching this series to find a cheap strat that i can mod the heck out of.
    so far it is really close between these two. I like the Pacifica sounds. I like the Xavier sounds right out of the box. they both have swimming pool routes. the Xavier has the GFS plug pickups but I want practice with a soldering iron. the Pacifica is good but finding a pickguard to fit a SSS set up might be hard.

  • @valuevinyl110
    @valuevinyl110 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh boy! thank you for this opportunity Ryan (and D'ADDARIO). This was a heaven sent opportunity for me. You said to leave as long a comment as you wanted for Emily... I took advantage of that! :-)
    *crosses fingers that she likes it!

  • @GaveMeGrace1
    @GaveMeGrace1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you and I’m really enjoying the extra-compare playing at the end.

    • @GaveMeGrace1
      @GaveMeGrace1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh! And I saw an soil slick firebird-Phoenix in the psychedelia stew. Groovy!

  • @onefatstratcat
    @onefatstratcat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My main bar axe is a Pacifica with rails in it.. not a great guitar for guys with big hands.. I have toddler hands so it works great for me :)

  • @Taallyn
    @Taallyn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought this was a fair comparison. The Yamaha has been on my watch list for a while now. I think the Xavier is going to be on it too. Kinda want a Strat/Tele/Mustang or some sort of single coil guitar.
    If you continue with this series, it might be interesting to check our a Sawtooth Strat. You can get them on Amazon. I've seen a couple of favorable videos on them. It would be nice to have your take on it.

  • @adamstein9333
    @adamstein9333 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ryan, Thank You For the Hoop Jumpers T in Black, My fave shirt! I’d take the Pacifica

  • @MrSJPowell
    @MrSJPowell 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Of your criteria, I think the only one that Xavier won, that wasn't subjective, was the fretboard (the fret ends/and frets) and the bridge. That said, removing the subjective aspects, Xavier still took the fretboard from your description, and the trem pretty handily, so I'd say it was a fair win for Xavier.

  • @benford1726
    @benford1726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My first guitar
    The stock humbucker was the most bland pickup I've ever played (this was over a decade ago, don't know if they've changed since)
    Edit: they have changed that pickup, the back of mine says JY-10-M3-F

  • @scottjackson4743
    @scottjackson4743 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A small tip, if you super glue that crack right now from the back side of the cover and hold it for a minute or 2 you will never see the difference and it will be stronger than the guard itself

  • @willshred4money
    @willshred4money 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey! Just to affirm you, I choose not to buy lots of neat looking cheap guitars totally based on not being able to buy new pick guards, bridges, ect. I think your feelings are valid. I have nothing against the Pacifica but that is one reason I have never owned one. The other reason is because it isn't completely "strat like". I understand why those criteria made the list. Seems like a fun guitar, but not for me. Good video!

    • @-processdrone-
      @-processdrone- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah I looked at pacifica pick guards there are a lot, and you can even buy different pickguards to make it SSS HSS or HH. All the other parts a person might change are interchangeable with stuff provided in the strat aftermarket. So having gone into this with no expectations I have to conclude that the swimming pool rout causes the Pacifica to be the more moddable of the two by some distance. I didn't expect to be saying that before the research.
      update; different neck pocket means you would struggle to replace the neck on the Pacifica , that needs declaring

    • @willshred4money
      @willshred4money 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@-processdrone- thanks for checking on that. I guess I just assumed incorrectly. Good to know if I ever see a good deal on a fun one!

  • @kipawbrey4750
    @kipawbrey4750 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to see lesser priced guitars demoed on a lesser amp. Maybe a champion 40 or something along that line. Probably what they will be played on 90 percent of the time. And I love your channel watch regularly.

    • @60CycleHumcast
      @60CycleHumcast  ปีที่แล้ว

      I understand that thinking, but I use the same amps in most videos for recording consistency. It gives regular viewers a base point of comparison for all the guitars and pedals I cover.

  • @paulschauerman2052
    @paulschauerman2052 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I was teaching, if I was ever asked about a decent electric guitar, I'd suggest the Pacifica.

  • @redrocker1055
    @redrocker1055 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought an Eterna by Yamaha ET112 at an auction for $30. I bought it for the neck really. Then I realized the body was actually real wood, looks like Alder. I'm stunned by Yamaha's quality. Don't get me wrong, everything save for the neck and body sucks, but it's a great mod platform.

    • @hawleybrowder4083
      @hawleybrowder4083 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Around 1989, I bought an Eterna acoustic from a friend for $50. I did minor work on it at the time; I still play it today. It’s my only acoustic. I love that stupid guitar.

  • @kgrant67
    @kgrant67 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So you probably won't see this given I am commenting so far after the release, but I noticed your dilemma about the score of 11 to 5 not really representing the difference in quality. The Xavier was not over twice as good as the Yamaha. Might I suggest that rather than giving one point or 0 points in every category that you judge each category on a scale of 1 to 10. So for instance the fact that the neck was a little better on the Xavier you could give that a 9 and the Yamaha a 7. That would be more reflective than an all or nothing scoring system. Great video. I have been leaning towards an Xavier and this confirmed it

  • @TheRealChetManley
    @TheRealChetManley ปีที่แล้ว

    Xaviere wins this for me, the Yamaha is a great starter guitar. I had a green Xaviere 870 that was really nice. They’re very close to that classic strat sound and feel.

  • @jacobbockover1628
    @jacobbockover1628 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was looking for a pac611 and they are going for 5 something mostly used at least this week. That pretty close to new prices. I guess that means they are well loved. I gotta say the small nut issue also plages prs se/s2 newer mid level other guitars. I do buy b stock or used/scratch and dent so

  • @masatanida9119
    @masatanida9119 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree that the Made-in-Mexico Fenders have gotten better over the years, but they aren't really any more expensive than they were in the 90s. When you factor in inflation, $375 in the mid 90s is about $700 today.

  • @ScottHz
    @ScottHz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @60 Cycle Hum - Love that teal Tone King Imperial combo in the back - off to findyour review of that!

  • @deinedickemutter
    @deinedickemutter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do Squier next! (or at some point)
    I really enjoy this series!
    Thanks!

  • @snakeplissken44
    @snakeplissken44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the yamaha headstock better

  • @ChrisKadaver
    @ChrisKadaver 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The pacifica sounds pretty horrible to my ear. I hope a pickup swap can fix it since I ordered one a couple of days ago. It will arrive tomorrow.

  • @rindred
    @rindred 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, now that you've opened the door to HSS Strat copies, perhaps the next competitor could be a Kramer Focus VT-211S. Both the teal and the purple ones show as available to order from the Kramer website...