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- Train sim world 3 is here! In this video we take a look at the class 66 diesel freight locomotive on the southeastern high speed extended route. We will be driving between Hoo Junction and Dartford.
I am a freight train driver in real life and driving a train and a route that I sign in real life, I've got no excuses for poor driving!
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I know this is a SIM but I also know you do this in real life but it goes to show how much economically friendlier the railway is & has become from what it used to be when it comes to working out when it's best to use power & conserve it 😁
Saving energy :-) it’s greener by rail!
@@DadRail I don't like tsw 2 or 3. They changed the physics of the game. They made engines accelerate much slower. And also the brakes have been seriously weakened. I also don't like that there is no longer the free roam camera that could be positioned anywhere in the map and was not tied to the train. I used that camera a lot in the original tws. Overall they have seriously downgraded the game. And it really upsets me so I no longer will play tsw. But anyways I'm just curious do you notice these changes? If you don't please go back and replay the first tsw. Get in a loco and throw it notch 8. See how fast of a speed you can get. And then see how quickly you can bring the engine to a stop. The engines have been seriously nerfed
@@cjsnidlio9409 thanks for your comment. Personally I feel that the changes in the physics have made the game much more realistic. If anything the brakes on the 66 are still too sharp. I think TSW was more of an arcade game rather than a semi accurate simulator. I get that the changes don’t appeal to everybody. I guess it’s personal choice at the end of the day. Afaik free cam is still a thing. Press number 8 on the keypad
The question is how did you manage to get through Denton without any shopping trolleys or bikes on the track ;-)
Cool simator, I used to drive the Class 66 myself and it was my favorite locomotive, it's strong and ridgid and a real cargo locomotive.
I also like the way to see that the instruments are different in the Netherlands, the throttle for example is on the left hand side and the train brake is on the right, also the isolator and direction switches are on the righthand and more within reach, the latest difference is the introdution of the ERTMS system on board, and the display is placed in the middle where the spedometer used to be.
I reconise the overhead display as well! I used to put the train speed and power on the display, rather than looking at the gauges all the time.
This is so unrealistic they are nowhere near that good condition inside. Does the simulation allow the drivers to piss in the antifreeze tank like some do in real life?
You’ll never simulate the heat from the traction motor blower being drawn back into the No.2 end cab during the summer months though!
Don't I know it! Cant open the window as all you get is hot air!
If you're getting some lag with the pc specs you got then my computer stands no chance! 😱
Same 😂
Had to turn my graphic settings down. . So much for the, if it plays tsw2 it will run this .
Great video! I had high hopes for this revamped 66, and from what I've seen its even better than I was hoping for! I think this looks like the best 66 in any train sim for now.
Some nerdy observations:
1. Train length counter operation is more realistic than the AP 66 in train sim classic
2. You can hear air going into the loco brake cylinders when the brakes are applying, making a subtle squeak sound. This is also not present on the AP 66
It’s a very welcome upgrade. A few things are not 100% but from a simmer perspective the work that has been done gives you a much better and more realistic experience.
I regularly see 66s pulling through Lincoln station. They are by far my favourite locos for sound - when I stand on the university bridge and one throttles up to pull away, the exhaust pulses and whine of the dog-clutch turbocharger literally shake your organs. Absolutely love these.
I spent a month training for a job in Lincoln, right near the crossing at the end of the high street(?), near Boots and Greggs. I could hear the many 66’s from where I was working!
I’d even spend a little time after work by the crossing watching the many trains, before heading back to my hotel
I’m so impressed that you can access things like the AWS isolation. Looks really good. Problem is I’ve invested so much money on Train simulator that it feels hard to justify spending more on TSW3. Shame as I love the class 66 loco
I completely get that.
I switched over when the original TSW first came out, when the game was in a really rough state still. Never seriously looked back nonetheless.
Train World Sim 3 is a ripoff, and you supporting Dove Tail Games = vomit!
I totally respect your opinion.
I dont know if someone already mentioned it but since you said you want to stick your head out the window sometimes to look back you can do that in the sim by pressing the arrow keys left or right. On some trains you have to press like 3 or 4 times until you can look out because it first zooms into some screens and at the last step you look out the window of the pressed arrow direction. Nice video by the way, greetings from germany mate! cheers
I’m on ps5 by the way
It would be quite interesting to see if any train sims out there includes the Class 66 and the Class 59. Aesthetically almost identical, but notable differences in terms of tractive effort. I somehow doubt it.
They certainly know their stuff across the pond. Such a shame the UK can't seem to make a reliable dependable freight loco that wasn't riddled with issues before being accepted into traffic.
This is a classic RIP-OFF. Stop buying Dovetail Games! Lackluster updates that should have been updated to TSW2.
-- No controller support and no FOV support.
-- Graphics is lackluster - have you heard of Unreal Engine 5?
STOP the Madness!!
how do you become a freight train driver as a career?
Very disappointed with TSW 3 as I am unable to bring my DLC ‘ S across from TSW 2 on the PlayStation network
Plz can you do a video thrashing the 66 in real life?
Not sure what's going on, but the 66 in my game has the old sounds & non working datacord.
I really want TSW3 but I honestly can't afford it and for a game which is more or less similar to it's previous edition, I'm not exactly pleased with the current price tag. Do you know if it may be lowered to £24.99 once fully released on Tuesday?
No idea, I would imagine in time it will be reduced and feature in steam sales.
Buy an xbox game pass trial for £1 and then cancel you subscription and you will have a month to play TSW3 for £1.
Looks nice…I see the same issue as with TSW2 with the shadows from the rails only appearing a little way ahead, and the ‘end’ of the shadow moves along with the train
i agree its the only thing that bothers me with train sims. i recall some settings you can add to a file that increases the draw distance. i dont know why the game developers dont try to improve this
@@rrp6405 Probably for performance reasons, but they should make it changeable in the settings regardless
in 1st person view you can use the arrow keys to change position inside the cab, including sticking your head out the window
Why do you need to set the train length😊?
PS. Ah, I got it.
Hi can you tell me is the geml on there, Liverpool st to Norwich? And is there 37/47 and 57 available on the new game. Cheers mate
GEML is not available on the game at the moment. There is a class 47 and 37 for train sim world 2. These locos are compatible with train sim world 3 but are DLCs that you will need to purchase separately
Have to get some better speakers the 66 sounds so much better on your pc. . I use a rail driver , it doesn't work well at all with the braking system on the 66.
Not sure it’s my speakers, the sounds have been massively upgraded in TSW3
Great vid!! Are you still a train driver?
It something I would love to do. But haven't a clue where to start and if it's easy to get in to.
I really enjoyed this video. You did a great job! I very much enjoyed hearing from someone who really does the job and knows the details of the routes. That's priceless! Thank you!
I’m surprised that a real driver forgot the AWS and DSD
Good morning I like your videos I think the 66 is a very great locomotive to drive just feel in love with it the brakes are very easy to operate All so
I know this route like the back of my hand as I used to take the train from Gravesend to London every day. I've lived in Stockport for the past 11 years, so it's quite nostalgic for me
Have a question for you dad real I'm wondering what wondering what is the ETCS switch used for on the real class 66 locomotive? Since in Train Simulator World you cannot turn it on.
Do you mean in the circuit breaker cupboard?
@@DadRail correct and that is where 110v ETCS switch is located
So Richard, in your mentoring role, where you're helping new drivers to get a feel for driving the Class 66. Presumably if you use you tell them your favourite phrase here, then you'd be training them to let the train take the strain? (No? Just a thought).
Absolutely let the train take the strain :-)
@@DadRail Sorry, it was just a reference to how "train" (as in educate/mentor) rhymes with strain and also train (as in thing-that-goes-on-rails). But yes, really good video with lots of useful info in it, thanks.
Look as it build the detail on the rail/sleepers 15ft in front of the train. Just like it did in TSW, oh and TSW2 and now TSW3. I'll be keeping well clear of this franchise. Unless the drop there DLC prices on XBOX to less than at least 40% of current asking price.
Maybe worth waiting for the sales, you can pick up the game and DLCs sometimes for very little.
I used to work for EMD maintaining 66s and physically Constructing the '56 (class 55 with class 66 powertrain) - i found the Sim to be pretty damn accurate!!!!
how to configure for train tail locomotives to respond in locotrol mode?
Dear Dad Rail
You have seemed to miss that in many of the routes in TSW3 the aspects on the signals are in the wrong position. PS are you a Tonbridge man ? We used to go to Tonbridge from Reading back in the good old days....Best wishes....Mark
Really enjoyed that mate. A great insight to real driving. Cheers.
Why are you recording in 1080p? How many do you think looks at this one a big screen TV?1
Record in 720p, and you will get alot better performance, aaaaand you will save time on upload because of thesmaller file size ✌️
To be fair, I always record and stream in 1080. Never really have much of a problem with performance and upload speeds. I see what you are saying though.
DBC/EWS class 66 can be run at 8.2kA all day long no need to reduce traction current, the auto coupler is in the extended position on the lead end and it should be stowed when moving, no GSM-R fitted to the sim, the cab windows open and close very smoothly (the real one are f********), and the cab is clean, DBC/EWS cabs are dirty as hell, middle position of direction controller is “engine only” not neutral, typical GBRf driver “make sure you have your hard hat as the sky might fall in”………..give us a wave next time you are in the Western gimp boy.
Thanks for the video. Lots of interesting info. Glad to hear that you like how they've modelled it as well.
No worries, glad you enjoyed the video
Doesn't look like lag looks like motion blur😂
why cant we update TSW2 to 3 i dont want to pay another £30 grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
On the GWML route from the original TSW release, console version, the 66 does 155mph when fully loaded lmfao. Its a bit broken. The HST wont break 127mph in comparison
DTG should have released patches to updated TSW1 to TSW2 and to TSW3. It's the same thing as TS. Same game, tiny improvements => $$$$$$. I will not buy anything from them again to be honest.
When you turn the key in real would the aws trip if you don't reset the test tone or is it just a test tone?
It is just a test tone can leave it ringing all day if you want to.
i tried to drive this train, i couldn't get it to move lol..... I shouldn't have this game should I, I'll just stick to truck sim
tbf its not that hard to get it to move
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TS newbie here. Just got the game and did this route but I wasn’t hearing any of the pings or beeps going over the signal warning boards. Is that a settings issue? Thanks
The noises you hear are the AWS Safety System. You need to enable it. If you look behind the drivers seat you will see a cupboard. Click on it to open it and inside you will find a circuit breaker marked AWS / TPWS. Flick that in and it will work
@@DadRail many thanks
Have I missed much ??
Do you ever reach for the brake/throttle when ur playing train sim
Nope can’t say I do.
Last time I watched a video from you, you were still a Passenger driver, IIRC. But not just your job has changed, mine has too. I am now a trainee for a freight driver as well
Brilliant Ben, hope your enjoying the change.
Passenger drivers under intense scrutiny from DM's(10 at Waterloo), freight more relaxed,no passengers to consider and DM's leave you alone to do the job !
Good luck in your career!
It sad. None of the train sims have the railcars i drive at work. These games seriously lack any suburban railcars from Australia.
Hi watched many of your videos they are great and very interesting I’ve been playing train simulator games for years and you have taught me new things, keep up the good work, being from Southampton myself I’d love to see the class 444 Poole to London route on tsw3 in the future, all the best
Brakes released wayyy to quickly on the train, almost light engine style, as was the take off. TSW3 looking fantastic though.
1 SLU was 21 feet, harking back to the steam days.
You are not wrong, the brakes are too quick to release, but the acceleration is reasonable. It’s the same now 21ft per SLU. The lengths on our train lists are in SLU
@@DadRail Yes, trainman from 1988 to 1994 and was always glad of a printed TOPS list rather than a "brain version" lol.
I passed out in 1997 and drove the 66's into Scotland and to Crewe. I miss them and it's great to share your enthusiasm and knowledge for the class, and also, thanks for your input in the sim bro. 😊
@@chewyfoks1840 thank you :-) Although I don’t feel like I will ever miss them, I’m sure I will when some plastic loco comes along. Im lucky enough to drive class 73s and they are lovely.
Did they remove the looking out the window camera views in TSW3?
I did the same timetables scenario in TSW3, and enjoyed your input and suggestions!
For some reason the Datacord 6100 is not functioning and you can't input any train length.
It seems as if the three Class 66's in the Southeastern High Speed route are different. In some of them the Datacord 6100 works and in some not. Why that is I do not know.
Just realised theyve removed the badges from the fence at Dartford. They are still there in real life, the networker express, the epb and the old 4SUB, all in situ.
I absolutely love this engine after discovering it in your video and playing TSW3. Always had a preference for old steam engines but your channel has really changed my enjoyment of the current rail industries!
I am dying to know more about driving the Class 66, like how do you treat the throttle? Do you slowly raise as the speed raises or do you just move it periodically?? I haven’t seen if you have videos talking about stuff like this but I am still going back and watching older videos
Excellent video! i learned a lot. Btw, sticking your head out, use the left arrow key on your keyboard.
You mention a few times that you're not dropping speed as fast as you should, or expected. I've had the same thought while playing this game, the trains feel very "slippery". Care to elaborate a bit on that, how the game friction compare to the real deal?
Have you tried Derail Valley the game? Not really a great sim game, but fun and has chance for things to get interesting.
I9 and 3090 and the pc is still struggling?!! Wth.
I have a question, not sure if anyone knows the answer. So the 66 sounds have been updated, and all dlc from tsw2 can be downloaded and carried for use on tsw3. So will the 66 sounds be updated for use on on other routes other than south eastern ?
I used to work on IoG at the BP Site. Often saw the diesel trains slowing at the manual crossing to pass papers to the crossing controller. Some had to stop for some time as well, I presume to allow time to integrate into the main line traffic.
Got to admit that I got to like the calming sound of those massive diesel engines idling.
You CAN stick out the head, left arrow or right button on controller.
Cracking video.
Any ideas if the fans are simulated intermittently on the 66 in TSW3, as I know this is something that Armstrong Powerhouse includes in his TSC version?
Yeah have joy come across them yet, but I have only done a few short runs.
I tried getting my dad interested in TS3 but all he likes is Trainz.
Ooh I remember Trainz I used to play that. I may have to check it out again at some point.
@@DadRail My dad since he was a kid was building layouts with N and HO scale and at one point he had a double garage just for his N scale layout (Roco and Fleischmann stuff).... I built him his first computer about 10 years ago and put an early version of Trainz and he's stuck with the program. He's 83 now and that's all he cares about or is interested in. I tried to get him in to Flight Simulator and Train Sim but it's too many buttons and also his eyesight is slowly going which doesn't help him see all the guages and stuff....
Having left a FOC to do passenger work, boy do I miss driving these. It's only been 5 years but that bought it all back.
What an impressive simulator.
Graphics look decent, i used to stay in Northfleet a lot and i was gateline at Gravesend, so id be interested to see how realistic the detail is in the station. Ie if they rendered our mess room lmao
lot of micro stuttering in the frame rate ?
This was a pre release version of the game, the full release version runs much better I am pleased to report.
Brilliant video dad rail . I am new subscriber and big fan of your channel
Thank you so much, and thanks for the sub
Great video mate really enjoyed it. I'm also a freight train driver for DB couple of points not a nock but . I would use the wing mirrors to look back also class 6 train is 60mph also . thanks again. any idea why we need another train sim World where will it stop. look forward to next one
Hi Lee, That's a fair point, we don't have wing mirrors on our 66s. What did I say about the speed?
Does it let you randomly have Snidely Whiplash pop up with a damsel tied to the railroad tracks? There's an opportunity missed here if not.
That would be so cool, make sure the screen goes sepia and you get sone over speed piano music at the same time 😂😂😂
Nice video! GREAT LOCO!!!
Wow that was a pretty nice insight.
Interesting. In the US, we drive on the left, but the engineer sits on the right. In the UK, they drive on the right, but the engineer sits on the left!
Wrong, in the UK, driver sits on the left side or in the middle in some new trains and trains travel on the left side in the normal direction of running
Thankyou so much for this video. I love driving the class 66 or any freight train really. Turns out I have been doing it wrong. Thanks so much! I do like to do things properly and don't know any train drivers I can ask so it's great to have a lesson from a pro. Thanks again!
No worries Nick, I’m really pleased you liked it.
Thank god that dreadful horn is gone
The sounds are certainly a big improvement
Great video just wish they had made this VR it would have been wicked to play it
I think it supports track ir, but not full VR
@@DadRail Yep i know you can use Trackir i have one but you would think now adays with VR they would have made the game VR its so different to play games in i do sim racing and being in side a car is some thing else so to be in side a train would have been amazing and well worth buying the game
You've got a really powerful rig.
So 60-84 fps seems a little low at 1080p, if you've got anti aliasing on maybe select a lower setting, not sure if this has DLSS.
In terms of the stutter, it should clear up, Unreal Engine is terrible for shader compilation stutter, but subsequent plays should be better :)
This was in pre release, its much better now. Also I am using the same computer for recording the game, camera and voice all at the same time so it is a lot of load on the machine. I will have a play with the anti aliasing though. Thanks for the advice :-)
@@DadRail
Having seen the options on another video TAA is probably the best option, visual quality wouldn't be great with the other AA options.
Glad it runs better now!
At 1080p the CPU is taking a lot of the load, GPU will handle more load at 1440p or 4k, and as he's streaming as well (more CPU load) it's going to be lower anyway.
@@PHDarren
No doubt it is more CPU limited at 1080p but still the frame rate seemed very low for his class of computer.
Seems all is well now with patches, no doubt a driver update will help :)
If Dovetail Games keeps on following this game-developing line they're gonna crash. This is the same as TSW 2. Most of train cab buttons and switches are blocked giving a 'fake' driving experience. AWS don't do shit making you to depend on HUD. I've never been warned of a red signal through AWS in any TSW edition.
So... They puke a very weak base game and then they prentend to sell you thousands of dollars in DLC's based on a shitty base.
The cab textures are awful and the game still runs like crap.
Thanks for your video - I'm not going to get this game based upon it!
How do I get this demo on Xbox :(
This is not a demo it is early release of the full game. You can purchase it for PC and console
@@DadRail oh is it the free early access I’m confused
60fps on very high end hardware?! dovetail seriously need to learn about optimising
This was in pre release, it’s much improved since final release. Also worth noting that the computer was recording the game, mic and camera all the same time, so a fair amount of load on the machine.
Good to see the improved train length feature. Sounds very good too especially over the points.
My first video and u got a sybscription from me!
Thanks :-)
First comment. 😁
Well done
Nope, this one came first.
@@Rowan66109 thanks, putting it on my LinkedIn profile now 🤣
One comment i will make is that the cab is far more isolated from engine noise in-game than in reality.
I agree, it’s far to quiet in the cab. Notch 8 you can’t hear your self think IRL