After speaking to Herbert from EverTune, I have some additional notes regarding the sustain especially. Since the bridge is essentially 6 isolated single-saddles that are all free-floating, you don't get any cross-talk between the strings - this is to say that the vibrations don't transfer across the whole bridge. While this does reduce the overall sustain, it adds a good amount of separation and clarity. It also appears as though this may be an additional factor in why the guitar sounds brighter with an EverTune. It's possible that the standard resonating hardtail bridge muddies the sound slightly. I would also like to add in regards to the brightness - if this is an undesirable factor to your ears, it's much easier to darken a bright guitar than the opposite. If you're lacking the high-end information to begin with, it's hard to add it - however if you've got too much high end, it's easy to knock it off by tweaking your amp.
When weighing the pros and cons of the Evertune bridge and deciding if it is worth it, I've found from experience that the most important aspect of this, which makes the Evertune bridge absolutely priceless, is the amount of time saved tuning the guitar in the studio and onstage. Never having to tune allows you to focus solely on your live performance which can be hampered if you're constantly having to worry about your guitar going out of tune while you're playing and having to taking tuning breaks during your set. It's a pain in the ass and just looks unprofessional. Also in the studio, time spent constantly having to tune and retune between takes adds up like crazy, which is a real pain in the ass for everyone, especially if you're being billed by the hour. The amount of money you could save in the studio with these equiped guitars is rather significant. The Evertune bridge is the finest invention to ever touch a guitar in my opinion, and it pays ridiculous dividends. It is truly a worthwhile investment, simply because of the time it saves.
Marmite! I had an Evertune-equipped guitar in my workshop (belonged to Steve from Lawnmower Deth). I was that impressed, I went and bought myself a Solar S1.6 PB with an Evertune. Kept it for 2 years but after 4 or 5 pickup swaps, I could never get it to sound/feel right. I came to the conclusion that the tone (lacking) problem was caused by the Evertune: maybe the sheer size and 'metalness' of it plus the lack of wood (where the rout for the Evertune system is MAHOOSIVE) changed things too much. All the EQ-ing trickery I tried never got me that feel I want/need! Again, an absolutely fabulous and innovative piece of kit that works amazingly well but: not for me...
Placebo. Wood doesn't make anywhere near enough of a difference to warrant that being the issue. You probably just grew up listening to songs where the guitars were never in tune and thats the sound you like and thats fine! Evertune isn't really necessary for a lot of genres, I find it work best in a lot of the modern metal subgenres!
Jon is a hugely underrated and humble lurcher as well as the only man capable of repairing Guthrie Govans fender after Guthrie sent it back to Fender. Job built me a guitar and it is brilliant.
Funny you should bring it up - I've actually jumped back down in gauge since this video, I'm now on a 10-54 set instead and it seems to be serving me well
Great video man, it was interesting to hear the difference in sound…it’s like the bass is gone, not necessarily in a bad way, just more clarity 👍 Looking forward to install one in my CE 🤘
Nice video, thanks for sharing! Makes me consider getting my S2 done as well. Did you have to replace / file your nut to fit 11-62 gauge strings? Also, where did you get those cool standing lights? 🤟😊
I widened the nut slots a touch using the strings themselves but it’s nothing too dramatic. The lights have been discontinued, they were from HomesDirect365 though!
I've been debating putting an Evertune in my 93 CU24. The guitar sounds dark, muddy and has no sustain so I have nothing left to lose. This might be the final push for me to just route that daddy out. Usually at the Balaguer shop we set it in Zone 2 right before Zone 3 / "Fast Bends". I've noticed a weird tuning issue. If you set the Evertune in the middle of Zone 2 "Bend is off".. then turn the Tuner to get more bend sensitivity, you go slightly sharp. If you set the Evertune in "Fast Bends", then later use the tuner to go "Bend is off", you'll be a bit flat. We're also using Petersons, which are insanely accurate so maybe I'm looking into it too hard.
Stoked to see you here! Evertune CU24 sounds like a great way to give it a bit of brightness and liven it up a touch (as well as all the other benefits of course). I spoke to EverTune a while ago about that variance because I noticed the same thing - they confirmed there is a small range of about 20 cents from the bottom of zone 2 to the top. I set up right on that best stop, just close enough that it fixes my intonation. Once I’m there, I then tune to pitch, tweak position, tune to pitch until I got it perfect. Those few cents are not going to be massively noticeable to most players and I could probably forgo it without really noticing, but it’s great for my peace of mind.
Very informative video! As a metal player, the only thing I didn’t like hearing was not only the tone being brighter, but it seemed to remove some low end as well. That’s a potential deal breaker for me, but I would have to play one through my own rig to hear how dramatic it is. Thanks for the useful content! 🤘
Out of tune guitars are a nightmare. However after having watched 100 videos about Evertune I think by now I finally figured it out. I do hear from a distance that the Evertune has one big issue despite of staying in tune all the time. Because it is constantly correcting the string tension it takes away the natural character of the guitar and guitar music in general. It is more like a keyboard piano now, hitting the notes on and off. There is no in between milinotes anymore that gave the guitar its flexible and stubborn sound. It is all too perfect. There is little room left for the personal touch. If you have 100 guitarists and they would all play the same Evertune equiped guitar I am pretty sure they all more or like will sound the same. So yes, the Evertune is great when it comes to tuning stability and there is nothing so frustrating and agonising than an out of tune guitar. But a guitar with an Evertune bridge sounds a bit... robotic.
I understand where you're coming from, but the EverTune system isn't perfect - it cuts some of the pitch drift, but not 100%. The tuning and intonation is much better, but it's still at the whim of being a guitar, and therefore it's also not perfect. It's maybe 85% of the way there in terms of robotising and perfecting the guitar. It also doesn't perfect your timing, your dynamics, your string noise, muting - hundreds of elements go into a recorded guitar take. EverTune robotises 10% of the performance at a degree of 85%. There's a very drastic difference between a MIDI guitar track and a real performance with an EverTune bridge.
İ cant be sure still i will like it or not .i have tried 2 times a guitar with evertune. İts so interesting experience. İ think İt a good thing for a clear record. Maybe not a better choice for feeling of play
Totally understandable, I prefer the sound (at least, sonically) after the installation. I'd definitely prefer to have the pre-retrofit sustain, but that's one of the caveats I expected going in.
@@KaiDown Yep. And no phase issues! 🤣 You'd have to slightly offset them in time to cause phasing issues. Tuning stability won't cause phase issues either. Technically that'll just be the natural summation of waves.
After speaking to Herbert from EverTune, I have some additional notes regarding the sustain especially. Since the bridge is essentially 6 isolated single-saddles that are all free-floating, you don't get any cross-talk between the strings - this is to say that the vibrations don't transfer across the whole bridge. While this does reduce the overall sustain, it adds a good amount of separation and clarity. It also appears as though this may be an additional factor in why the guitar sounds brighter with an EverTune. It's possible that the standard resonating hardtail bridge muddies the sound slightly.
I would also like to add in regards to the brightness - if this is an undesirable factor to your ears, it's much easier to darken a bright guitar than the opposite. If you're lacking the high-end information to begin with, it's hard to add it - however if you've got too much high end, it's easy to knock it off by tweaking your amp.
When weighing the pros and cons of the Evertune bridge and deciding if it is worth it, I've found from experience that the most important aspect of this, which makes the Evertune bridge absolutely priceless, is the amount of time saved tuning the guitar in the studio and onstage. Never having to tune allows you to focus solely on your live performance which can be hampered if you're constantly having to worry about your guitar going out of tune while you're playing and having to taking tuning breaks during your set. It's a pain in the ass and just looks unprofessional. Also in the studio, time spent constantly having to tune and retune between takes adds up like crazy, which is a real pain in the ass for everyone, especially if you're being billed by the hour. The amount of money you could save in the studio with these equiped guitars is rather significant. The Evertune bridge is the finest invention to ever touch a guitar in my opinion, and it pays ridiculous dividends. It is truly a worthwhile investment, simply because of the time it saves.
Almost a year with my first evertune equipped guitar and I really don't see myself using anything else. Simple, effective ang looking great.
EverTune is the way!
Marmite! I had an Evertune-equipped guitar in my workshop (belonged to Steve from Lawnmower Deth). I was that impressed, I went and bought myself a Solar S1.6 PB with an Evertune. Kept it for 2 years but after 4 or 5 pickup swaps, I could never get it to sound/feel right. I came to the conclusion that the tone (lacking) problem was caused by the Evertune: maybe the sheer size and 'metalness' of it plus the lack of wood (where the rout for the Evertune system is MAHOOSIVE) changed things too much. All the EQ-ing trickery I tried never got me that feel I want/need! Again, an absolutely fabulous and innovative piece of kit that works amazingly well but: not for me...
Placebo. Wood doesn't make anywhere near enough of a difference to warrant that being the issue. You probably just grew up listening to songs where the guitars were never in tune and thats the sound you like and thats fine! Evertune isn't really necessary for a lot of genres, I find it work best in a lot of the modern metal subgenres!
Jon is a hugely underrated and humble lurcher as well as the only man capable of repairing Guthrie Govans fender after Guthrie sent it back to Fender. Job built me a guitar and it is brilliant.
A 62 for Drop C!?!
Damn bro! That's thicker than a bowl of oatmeal!!
Funny you should bring it up - I've actually jumped back down in gauge since this video, I'm now on a 10-54 set instead and it seems to be serving me well
@@KaiDown
Nice! I'm using 10 - 52
Great video man, it was interesting to hear the difference in sound…it’s like the bass is gone, not necessarily in a bad way, just more clarity 👍 Looking forward to install one in my CE 🤘
Thanks for stopping by! CE with an EverTune will be a killer workhorse guitar
Yea, it sounds great, I bet it plays even better now too
Oh yeah, Jon did a fantastic setup on it, super comfy to play
Nice video, thanks for sharing! Makes me consider getting my S2 done as well. Did you have to replace / file your nut to fit 11-62 gauge strings? Also, where did you get those cool standing lights? 🤟😊
I widened the nut slots a touch using the strings themselves but it’s nothing too dramatic. The lights have been discontinued, they were from HomesDirect365 though!
@@KaiDown Very cool, thank you! I’m guessing the S2 body was thick enough for the mod?
@@backroadsonline It was, no additional risers needed
@@KaiDown Awesome, thanks for the info! 🤟😊🎸
I've been debating putting an Evertune in my 93 CU24. The guitar sounds dark, muddy and has no sustain so I have nothing left to lose. This might be the final push for me to just route that daddy out. Usually at the Balaguer shop we set it in Zone 2 right before Zone 3 / "Fast Bends". I've noticed a weird tuning issue. If you set the Evertune in the middle of Zone 2 "Bend is off".. then turn the Tuner to get more bend sensitivity, you go slightly sharp. If you set the Evertune in "Fast Bends", then later use the tuner to go "Bend is off", you'll be a bit flat. We're also using Petersons, which are insanely accurate so maybe I'm looking into it too hard.
Stoked to see you here! Evertune CU24 sounds like a great way to give it a bit of brightness and liven it up a touch (as well as all the other benefits of course). I spoke to EverTune a while ago about that variance because I noticed the same thing - they confirmed there is a small range of about 20 cents from the bottom of zone 2 to the top. I set up right on that best stop, just close enough that it fixes my intonation. Once I’m there, I then tune to pitch, tweak position, tune to pitch until I got it perfect. Those few cents are not going to be massively noticeable to most players and I could probably forgo it without really noticing, but it’s great for my peace of mind.
Very informative video! As a metal player, the only thing I didn’t like hearing was not only the tone being brighter, but it seemed to remove some low end as well. That’s a potential deal breaker for me, but I would have to play one through my own rig to hear how dramatic it is. Thanks for the useful content! 🤘
It's getting better and better.
I have one on a Solar and love it. I have a Les Paul std and wish it had one.
That's pretty much how my story went - tried one on a Solar, then instantly wished every one of my other guitars had one 😆
What's the exact model of your guitar? Looks fantastic
PRS S2 Satin 24! 💪
Out of tune guitars are a nightmare. However after having watched 100 videos about Evertune I think by now I finally figured it out. I do hear from a distance that the Evertune has one big issue despite of staying in tune all the time. Because it is constantly correcting the string tension it takes away the natural character of the guitar and guitar music in general. It is more like a keyboard piano now, hitting the notes on and off. There is no in between milinotes anymore that gave the guitar its flexible and stubborn sound. It is all too perfect. There is little room left for the personal touch. If you have 100 guitarists and they would all play the same Evertune equiped guitar I am pretty sure they all more or like will sound the same.
So yes, the Evertune is great when it comes to tuning stability and there is nothing so frustrating and agonising than an out of tune guitar. But a guitar with an Evertune bridge sounds a bit... robotic.
I understand where you're coming from, but the EverTune system isn't perfect - it cuts some of the pitch drift, but not 100%. The tuning and intonation is much better, but it's still at the whim of being a guitar, and therefore it's also not perfect. It's maybe 85% of the way there in terms of robotising and perfecting the guitar. It also doesn't perfect your timing, your dynamics, your string noise, muting - hundreds of elements go into a recorded guitar take.
EverTune robotises 10% of the performance at a degree of 85%. There's a very drastic difference between a MIDI guitar track and a real performance with an EverTune bridge.
@@KaiDown thanks for the extended in-depth reply. I appreciate it.
Great video; just subscribed!! What pickups do you have in there?
Thanks for the sub! Pickups are the Seymour Duncan Pegasus/Sentient set
Amazing, thanks! Being from MD I love PRS’s
i love mine on my ec1007.
What guitar are you retrofitting next??
Gotta be the Synthwave Espada for sure
This sold me to get an evertune retrofitted on my esp sn7b.
How do you do different tunings?
Super easy, just tune it at the bridge tuners
İ cant be sure still i will like it or not .i have tried 2 times a guitar with evertune. İts so interesting experience. İ think İt a good thing for a clear record. Maybe not a better choice for feeling of play
I personally love the feel of it, but that’s likely due to me hating the experience of pitch drift
I think this system is absolutely awesome for what it is and does. However, I don't like the sound as much compared to the old setup.
Totally understandable, I prefer the sound (at least, sonically) after the installation. I'd definitely prefer to have the pre-retrofit sustain, but that's one of the caveats I expected going in.
Of course it's worht it, it's a goddamn EVERTUNE!
Best thing ever for guitar! :D
I prefer the sound of the original bridge but it doesn't mean that the evertune is bad. I just like the darker tone.
So sick
Thank you!
PS: I subbed to your channel. Impressive...
It me. I am friend.
Great video, HOSS
SKULL YEAH
Great video, and kudos for having the gonads of sufficient size to send it of to be fitted! You've got a new subscriber 🙂
Thanks for checking it out!
2 guitars 100% locked in is the opposite of phase issues. It's the solution to phase issues...
Copy and paste one guitar over to the other track, that’s two guitars 100% locked in
@@KaiDown Yep. And no phase issues! 🤣 You'd have to slightly offset them in time to cause phasing issues. Tuning stability won't cause phase issues either. Technically that'll just be the natural summation of waves.
Bro... Clean test:
Before - bridge pickup.
After - neck pickup.
This test is a big failure :X
yee haw
They always say yee haw but they never ask haw yee 🤠
@@KaiDownI mean I know yee good because evertune