A Dance with Dragons - Chapter 22 - Tyrion VI
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- From George RR Martin's "A Dance with Dragons"
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"Westerns is broken and bleeding. And I am sure that my own sweet sister is binding up the wounds... with salt." Yep, that's Cersei alright.
With salt.
As gentle as maegor the cruel, selfless as Aegon the unworthy and as wise as the mad king. Tyrion said it best haha. Also he mentions how Kevan won’t take control unless given or asked. Man if Tywin or Cersi saw Tyrions smarts, so much would be different
lol
Tyrion was ABSOLUTELY right in his assessment of Cersei's rule!
And everyone for that matter
That he was.
He also was spot on about Daenerys.
(f)Aegon: "you don't know her"
Tyrion: perfectly describes Daenerys and knows everything she's done
I was paying for audible's version of these books till I found you, you are much more enjoyable to listen to. Thank you!
Gotta love the Maester practicing social distancing
Same.
He must have voted for Joe, and fell for the same circus that every democrat did lmao 🤣 there are some that still wear masks even with everything that we now know. It’s a religion to some, not so bright people.
Lol anyone else notice that Ser Jorah is basically hangin with a danarys imitation
Goddamn
A Lynesse replacement
@@Argos-xb8ek I hate that.
@@comradestannis Lol right Jorah has no shame.
@@Argos-xb8ek but unlike Jon Connington, I think Martin set Jorah’s arc to be about him breaking free from this obsession while JonCon will succumb to it and eventually kill Faegon when he realized that he’s a Blackfyre, not Rhaegar’s son.
I really hope that Griff and company reunite with Hugor Hill one last time before the end
Those set-up in the novels generally aren't pointless. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a point where Griff / young Griff meet up with Danyeres and he is finally overtaken by the Greyscale and either Trion or Tyrion and Mormon have to fight Greys Cale Griff to protect her.
@@ghadrackpotato960 That would be anti-climactic.
@@ghadrackpotato960I think it’s very likely for them to meet again as enemies, but I highly doubt Griff would be out of his mind or anything because that wouldn’t really be them reuniting, since Griff would be by all intents and purposes already dead.
The way Tyrion talks about Daenarys…I’m loving this set up.
A Small man who casts a long shadow......
We can see Tyrion yet again changed the future of westeros....
He night not be evil but he is the most dangerous Lannister. Stannis and Catelyn noted that about him
@@theelectricprince8231 He might not be evil…yet
Also, the reason he’s so dangerous is because he’s resemble to Tywin and right now he has nothing to lose and you don’t mess with a guy who has nothing to lose.
@@nont18411 Tyrion has a lot to lose or are you forgetting he is looking after and protecting Penny?
Tyrion won't become evil and Tyrion is dangerous because he is intelligent and innovative, Tywin is dangerous because he was a complete and utter sociopath. Tyrion actually won a battle while Tywin got taken to school by Robb Stark
One of my favorite chapters. Tyrion at his best here
As a board game geek I REALLY want the rules to Cyvasse
I imagine it as some kind of battle chess with random terrain tiles and a draft system for your pieces. Some pieces appear to be able to absorb hits and surrounding pieces makes them weaker. A board game maker should really talk to the George about creating it.
The guy rubbing Tyrion's head for good luck is hilarious.
The art used for this video is the best depiction of Tyrion I've seen.
I realy like the theory that the shrouded lord is Gerion Lanister and thats why he spares Tyrion. Gerion and Jaime are the only people who truly loved Tyrion and Gerion had problems with Tywin. So it makes sence that he hears some one killed Tywin descides to atack and then spares then after seing Tyrion
I've heard that George originally intended to have Tyrion explicitly meet, make laugh, and be granted a boon by the Shrouded Lord, and that maybe possibly that interaction shaped the cyvasse game he plays with Young Griff. But GRRM reconsidered and removed that scene.........
@@DavidReadsASoIaF ahh thats such a shame i love the idea of the shrouded lord
@@oz4087 I really like that theory too. And it does make sense.
I love this theory! 😃💯
Didn’t he have another uncle besides gerion who liked him?
I remember when Tyrion asked for a dragon when he was little, there were actually two uncles there…. Gerion was the one who laughed, and the other told him they were all dead.
Tygit or something?
What the heck is Tyrion DOING during that Cyvasse match with Young Griff? I have ideas, but can't say for sure.
He’s playing two games at once most likely
voluntarily or involuntary Tyrion changed the future of Westeros again...
Tyrion is playing his position with Young Griff. As with any game of strategy, you must think three moves ahead before making the move at hand. In this instance he is not only teaching Griff the importance of the piece not only on the board but is advising on position through his words. Tyrions words are provocative as well as wise. I believe Tyrion is placing himself ahead of time to be The Hand of the Dragon with three heads and that is assuming that John Snow is indeed the son of Rhagar an Lyanna. By picking up the Cyvasse pieces Griff scattered, he has shown his subservience to the young King as well as his wit and wisdom. You know the kid will grumble to the Half-Maester and will indeed be counseled. The game is afoot...!!
I think Tyrion is clearly manipulating him but to what end I can’t say. Jorah kinda uprooted his plans by kidnapping him
i think he's just setting fAegon and Dany to wage war against each other for the throne. at this point of the story he just wants to watch westeros burn
Faegon this, Faegon that. The REALLY interesting reveal would be that he's the genuine article. Him being fake is too obvious. The House of the Undying warned against the Mummer's Dragon but what if it meant a A Dragon that belongs to Mummer's and not a FAKE Dragon.
Blackfyre?
Him being a blackfyre still makes him a dragon anyways, it just weakens his claim to the iron throne. But it has been made relativly obvious, that that blackyre-thing might well be the case and I like your theory too
@@monamarples9264I think it would be poetic to have him be a Blackfyre and end up marrying Dany and reuniting the house to reclaim their family’s throne. That’s essentially how the wars of the roses ended with Henry Tudor marrying Elizabeth of York and uniting the Lancaster and Yorkist claims. GRRM seems to enjoy borrowing examples from history for his story and what Tyrion told Faegon seems to be setting that up. Idk where that leaves Jon if he ends up getting resurrected like in the show.
Agreed.
I think it’s only obvious because fans have been left to stew on all the foreshadowing for over a decade.
I think fAegon being a Blackfyre is perfect, the final “Blackfyre rebellion” added into many other events of ASOIAF just makes the plot soup so much spicier
Tbh i think i like show Jorah more than book Jorah, mostly because of personality 😂
Book Jorah is a simp thats for sure
Book Jorah is like a creepy asshole.
I like Jorah in dance because he’s such a salty old ass
@@Kingedwardiii2003 He is!
Book Jorah is a pervert.
13:10 you're "Tyrion imitating Young Griff" was gold
GOOD READ. The emotions of the characters are coming through to me. Good narration as always.
15:29 - Tyrion's analysis of Cersei is incredibly ironic because, as is often the case, Tyrion and Cersei are deeply paralleled: Tyrion ALSO never forgets slights real or imagined, in ACOK Tyrion ALSO was a cruel and selfish and unwise ruler* despite how effectively he supported House Lannister, Tyrion ALSO reviles cowardice and defiance in his underlings, Tyrion ALSO is greedy for power and honour and love...
Yes Tyrion, projecting much? Looking in a mirror? Does he love and hate what he sees? Oh, yes.
* Tyrion's highlights in ACOK are only superficially good, for example every reader must have cheered when Tyrion revealed Pycelle for what he is... BUT... Tyrion did not put Pycelle on trial. He just flung him into the dungeons, which is VERY BAD PR FOR A RULER. That was just the start of a number of follies that would culminate in Tyrion's ASOS disgrace, and the anti-Tyrion sentiment was fostered by his own actions (and others)... he claimed he wanted to do justice when he arrived as hand, but ACOK and ASOS Tyrion was instead concerned with vengeance.
You're right but he is also not wrong though. Indeed, we always seem to see best in others what we don't want to see in ourselves. Tyrion is no different in this. Tyrion is way less cruel and selfish as Cersei though and much wiser, he made mistakes, true but he also made some really good moves too but you're right, he overplayed his hand over all.
Pycelle is a nobody. He betrayed him. He could have just had his head instead as his father suggested before he sent him to KL (along with those of Varys and LF). Nobody would have cared. Nobody but Cersei.
@@IngTomT Part of the Lannister tragedy is that Tyrion and Cersei legitimately could have been very strong allies, but Tywin's loveless and competitive parenting puts them in opposite corners as they vie for his attention.
Re: Pycelle - you are making the same mistake as Tyrion. It does not matter who Pycelle is, but his OFFICE deserves respect from the ruler that office serves. Or else why serve the ruler? That is PR.
To the smallfolk, Tyrion arrived in King's Landing and started dungeoning people and sending them to the wall without fair trial. It is true that no one might care what happens to Janos or Pycelle, but as a ruler Tyrion made massive blunders in handling them... because how Tyrion handles them, can translate to how he handles anyone else. Tyrion proved himself to be both capricious and cruel as a ruler just in how he handled Janos and Pycelle.
@@user-wq8sd2qc4u Oh, I totally agree with you that Tyrions leadership was flawed but it wasn't terrible either, considering the circumstances I think.
Tywin explicitly tells him to put heads on spikes if need be.
Not everyone deserves a fair trial, that's a privilege for high lords.
Ned Stark single handedly sentenced Ser Gregor to death in his absence and in absence of the king without solid proof and only summoned Tywin, his liege lord, to trial.
Cersei/Joffrei dismissing Ser Barristan.
Not even Ned Stark did get a fair trial, he was also thrown into the dungeons and was threatend with the death of his daughters to confess guilty, was promised being sent to the the wall for his confession but then executed anyway.
So in Tyrions defence you also need to look at the societal circumstances he is living in and the examples other people give.
Tyrion even questions if he was to kind to Slynt later and thinks he better should have taken his head as his father suggested.
So you could also say from his point of view he was way more considerate and mild than other people around him.
Nonetheless his bad leadership decisions came back to bite him in the ass later, just like for everyone else, Aeris, Tywin, Ned, Cersei and so on.
I think Tyrion's need for vengeance has a just cause much more than Cersei's ever does. She's vain, petty, and evil. She'll use her own flesh and blood to remain in power. Tyrion's cruel streak comes with several damn good reasons, unlike Cersei's. Can you imagine him as a babe? The way she mistreated him when he was helpless and innocent is quite disgusting.
They're not the same.
edited to add :::
Tyrion's a man of simple pleasures.
Cersei's never been happy, even when she has everything. Everything is never enough to a creature such as her.
@@JanicePhillips what I said: deeply paralleled
what I didnt say: they're the same
what you said: they're not the same
😂😂😂😂
any way, Cersei ordered the blacksmiths to make war materials under threat of their hands being smashed on their anvils thus earning the hatred of the smallfolk;
Tyrion then ordered those same blacksmiths to make his war chain under threat of languishing in the dungeons thus earning the hatred of the smallfolk...
do the math and you may learn what a parallel entails, I even simplified it for you 😂
This is one of my favorite chapters in the series.
the forsaken bear returns.
Listenting to both ADWD and AFFC is amazing, because this chapter is all the more powerful knowing that Tyrion is right about Cersei. The twist at the end also implies that he might be taken to Cersei, but of course Jorah refers to Dany as his Queen.
Tyrion describing dany like he's her biggest fan who's been following her story since day one
Also him accurately predicting cersei's incompetence and the fact that feast and dance happen simultaneously so probably the moment he said that she was having some petty delusions of grandeur in the red keep he's a better seer than the three eyed raven
What fantastic artwork!
Tyrion schooling fAegon is one of the best things about this book
fAegon ??
@@محمدعثمان-ق3شthey refer to the theory that Young Griff is not Aegon VI. Possibly a descendant of the blackfyre Targaryen line
@@samberger8595 see personally, I do think he is fake, but in a cool way, I think it would make sense if they got together sense supposedly the black fires have the sword black fire and that’s an ancient feud of the Targaryen line but definitely still needs to be reconciled I mean, at the end of the day, the golden company sides with better steel the son of black fire not with a Targaryen
I can't wait to hear your Strickland voice 😁
Looks like Tyrion will be going for longer journey.
Huh, re lesinening i just realised. When Tyrion talks about Gryff meetinf Dany as man and woman, as equals not queen and suplicant both having had had hard journeys and sacrifices that hardened them into strong leaders. It doesnt at all aply to Gryf because wheter hes real or fake everythinf about him is fake, his upbringing is fake in sence that all his trials and journey and Varys speel anout him being well educated and tought to be good is a lie, he stoll grew up codled by Jon Con and Ilyrio in his mance he is fake because his entire upbringing is fake. Jon and Daenerys however does apply to Tyrions speech, both fought for what they believed, both sacrificed theyr loved ones along theyr journey, both are smart dutifull and cunning, and both became leaders anot by blood right but by theyr virtues. How can they not fall in love when they meet.
It wasn’t built up well in the show
Thank you David. I love every chapter.
Keep up the good work Dave!!
Your great at this
From the chapter:
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“A true friend, our Lord Connington. He must be, to remain so fiercely loyal to the grandson of the king who took his lands and titles and sent him into exile. A pity about that. Elsewise Prince Rhaegar’s friend might have been on hand when my father sacked King’s Landing, to save Prince Rhaegar’s precious little son from getting his royal brains dashed out against a wall.”
The lad flushed. “That was not me. I told you. That was some tanner’s son from Pisswater Bend whose mother died birthing him. His father sold him to Lord Varys for a jug of Arbor gold. He had other sons but had never tasted Arbor gold. Varys gave the Pisswater boy to my lady mother and carried me away.”
“Aye.” Tyrion moved his elephants. “And when the pisswater prince was safely dead, the eunuch smuggled you across the narrow sea to his fat friend the cheesemonger, who hid you on a poleboat and found an exile lord willing to call himself your father. It does make for a splendid story, and the singers will make much of your escape once you take the Iron Throne … assuming that our fair Daenerys takes you for her consort.”
“She will. She must.”
“Must?” Tyrion made a tsking sound. “That is not a word queens like to hear. You are her perfect prince, agreed, bright and bold and comely as any maid could wish. Daenerys Targaryen is no maid, however. She is the widow of a Dothraki khal, a mother of dragons and sacker of cities, Aegon the Conqueror with teats. She may not prove as willing as you wish.”
“She’ll be willing.” Prince Aegon sounded shocked. It was plain that he had never before considered the possibility that his bride- to-be might refuse him. “You don’t know her.” He picked up his heavy horse and put it down with a thump.
The dwarf shrugged. “I know that she spent her childhood in exile, impoverished, living on dreams and schemes, running from one city to the next, always fearful, never safe, friendless but for a brother who was by all accounts half-mad … a brother who sold her maidenhood to the Dothraki for the promise of an army. I know that somewhere out upon the grass her dragons hatched, and so did she. I know she is proud. How not? What else was left her but pride? I know she is strong. How not? The Dothraki despise weakness. If Daenerys had been weak, she would have perished with Viserys. I know she is fierce. Astapor, Yunkai, and Meereen are proof enough of that. She has crossed the grasslands and the red waste, survived assassins and conspiracies and fell sorceries, grieved for a brother and a husband and a son, trod the cities of the slavers to dust beneath her dainty sandaled feet. Now, how do you suppose this queen will react when you turn up with your begging bowl in hand and say, ‘Good morrow to you, Auntie. I am your nephew, Aegon, returned from the dead. I’ve been hiding on a poleboat all my life, but now I’ve washed the blue dye from my hair and I’d like a dragon, please … and oh, did I mention, my claim to the Iron Throne is stronger than your own?’ ”
Aegon’s mouth twisted in fury. “I will not come to my aunt a beggar. I will come to her a kinsman, with an army.”
“A small army.” There, that’s made him good and angry. The dwarf could not help but think of Joffrey. I have a gift for angering princes. “Queen Daenerys has a large one, and no thanks to you.” Tyrion moved his crossbows.
“Say what you want. She will be my bride, Lord Connington will see to it. I trust him as much as if he were my own blood.”
“Perhaps you should be the fool instead of me. Trust no one, my prince. Not your chainless maester, not your false father, not the gallant Duck nor the lovely Lemore nor these other fine friends who grew you from a bean. Above all, trust not the cheesemonger, nor the Spider, nor this little dragon queen you mean to marry. All that mistrust will sour your stomach and keep you awake by night, ’tis true, but better that than the long sleep that does not end.” The dwarf pushed his black dragon across a range of mountains. “But what do I know? Your false father is a great lord, and I am just some twisted little monkey man. Still, I’d do things differently.”
That got the boy’s attention. “How differently?”
“If I were you? I would go west instead of east. Land in Dorne and raise my banners. The Seven Kingdoms will never be more ripe for conquest than they are right now. A boy king sits the Iron Throne. The north is in chaos, the riverlands a devastation, a rebel holds Storm’s End and Dragonstone. When winter comes, the realm will starve. And who remains to deal with all of this, who rules the little king who rules the Seven Kingdoms? Why, my own sweet sister. There is no one else. My brother, Jaime, thirsts for battle, not for power. He’s run from every chance he’s had to rule. My uncle Kevan would make a passably good regent if someone pressed the duty on him, but he will never reach for it. The gods shaped him to be a follower, not a leader.” Well, the gods and my lord father. “Mace Tyrell would grasp the sceptre gladly, but mine own kin are not like to step aside and give it to him. And everyone hates Stannis. Who does that leave? Why, only Cersei.
“Westeros is torn and bleeding, and I do not doubt that even now my sweet sister is binding up the wounds … with salt. Cersei is as gentle as King Maegor, as selfless as Aegon the Unworthy, as wise as Mad Aerys. She never forgets a slight, real or imagined. She takes caution for cowardice and dissent for defiance. And she is greedy. Greedy for power, for honor, for love. Tommen’s rule is bolstered by all of the alliances that my lord father built so carefully, but soon enough she will destroy them, every one. Land and raise your banners, and men will flock to your cause. Lords great and small, and smallfolk too. But do not wait too long, my prince. The moment will not last. The tide that lifts you now will soon recede. Be certain you reach Westeros before my sister falls and someone more competent takes her place.”
“But,” Prince Aegon said, “without Daenerys and her dragons, how could we hope to win?”
“You do not need to win,” Tyrion told him. “All you need to do is raise your banners, rally your supporters, and hold, until Daenerys arrives to join her strength to yours.”
“You said she might not have me.”
“Perhaps I overstated. She may take pity on you when you come begging for her hand.” The dwarf shrugged. “Do you want to wager your throne upon a woman’s whim? Go to Westeros, though … ah, then you are a rebel, not a beggar. Bold, reckless, a true scion of House Targaryen, walking in the footsteps of Aegon the Conqueror. A dragon.
“I told you, I know our little queen. Let her hear that her brother Rhaegar’s murdered son is still alive, that this brave boy has raised the dragon standard of her forebears in Westeros once more, that he is fighting a desperate war to avenge his father and reclaim the Iron Throne for House Targaryen, hard-pressed on every side … and she will fly to your side as fast as wind and water can carry her. You are the last of her line, and this Mother of Dragons, this Breaker of Chains, is above all a rescuer. The girl who drowned the slaver cities in blood rather than leave strangers to their chains can scarcely abandon her own brother’s son in his hour of peril. And when she reaches Westeros, and meets you for the first time, you will meet as equals, man and woman, not queen and supplicant. How can she help but love you then, I ask you?” Smiling, he seized his dragon, flew it across the board. “I hope Your Grace will pardon me. Your king is trapped. Death in four.”
The prince stared at the playing board. “My dragon-”
“-is too far away to save you. You should have moved her to the center of the battle.”
“But you said-”
“I lied. Trust no one. And keep your dragon close.”
(A Dance with Dragons - Chapter 22 - Tyrion VI)
Out of all the houses in ASOIAF. The Lannister are the Only ones that resembels a real royal family for me, kinda like plantagenets or valois
48:34 this line is gold
Tyrion is a genius.
Your reading is so fucking good dude. Alot of audio books are boring to dreams. Paid actors dont put forth half the effort you do...
Where ever whores go. Let it go! Tywin doesn’t know or care where a whore went. The lesson was learned
I love listening to you!!!! Please do the Outlander Series. Hell do anything.
Oh please do!!
30:30 Tyrion would have dealt with the High Sparrow. Cersei is a fool
God Tyrion is smart
Crazy what the TV show did with Tyrion in this chapter... this is Tyrion at rock bottom, Tyrion the jerk, Tyrion the monster. And what does the TV show do with this? They have Tyrion make small talk with a girl, compliment her so she decides to sleep with him for free, but then he's so noble or whatever that he can't go through with it? Favoritism from the showrunners dredges Tyrion up from the depths of self-loathing villainy and shoves him in a nice neat boring happy-go-lucky cubby of t-shirt slogans, somber wisdom and insufferable drinking games. What a shame...
Yeah, absolutely.
Never piss off a dwarf!
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Yayyyyy I've been checking all day!
i love this chapter
You are amazing.
Ik we hear from Tyrion later that he was kinda jk about this stuff he tells young griff, but it’s kinda ironic bcuZ we as the reader know it’s actually kinda good advice. We see from what happens with prince Quentin that young griff going to mereeen probly wouldn’t yield him anything lol
Danny is focused on some other stuff, not Westeros atm lol
Tyrion was meant to be hand of the king.
He’s handsome though. Also him showing up later might actually be a good thing since the whole Hizdar deal would’ve already fallen through and if the Golden Company helps win the Battle for Meereen so much the better.
Also Dany likes guys with blue hair.
Just a thought about how Tyrion never contracts greyscale: gives more credence to the idea that he may be a bastard of the Mad King. Targaryen blood is believed to be resistant to the diseases that plague most other men…explains why Dany never gets sick in Meereen later on in the book.
Tyrion is a master manipulator he says one thing while doing the exact opposite, thats why he waited until Lemore and such left to manipulate young griff because he's not as smart neither is Halfdon. Filled his mind with doubt, gives good advise that places doubt which makes it look like its geniune, Praises him then fill him up with doubt etc etc. Oh Tyrion you are Tywin's son indeed "trust no one" except this hurried & foolish idea I just in your head even though I told you to keep your dragon (Dany) close 😂😂😂 the Young Wolf & The Young Dragon both died brave & foolish because of their hot tempers. Oh Young Griff will go down in history as foolish too. Tyrion entire dialogue is George laughing his ass off i'm sure he knows a lot more about brave and stupid lords 😂😂😂
WHY DIDNT THE SHOW INCLUDE THIS WTH!?The entire story line of lil prince aegon escaping as a baby is such a good story line
I sure hope Tyrion is okay. In the tv series, wasn't it Jorah Mormont that got grey scale? I don't even remember Tyrion on a boat though, so who knows! lol Maybe he got it too and I just don't remember.
In the show they replaced Griff with Jorah and he got greyscale.
Why did they let tyrion go into the city if he might have greyscale?
Good point ngl
Why would they care about Volantis? Dany is gonna burn it.
20:57 ESL student snaps back
The fact that he has a nose in the picture is bugging me 😂
He's just got the holes! It's not ghastly but it looks like his nose is maimed to me.
@@DavidReadsASoIaF fair enough..but I really don't see it 😂
Looks like its cut off to me.
It literally looks like a nose cut off
Which queen?
Who really is Septon Lemore? Any ideas?
No clue. I almost suspect that she's a red herring, some or other daughter or wife of an exiled targaryen or blackfyre loyality who genuinely isn't a big reveal.
@@DavidReadsASoIaF she's either Serra, or a Paramour of Rheagar.
Nobody!
I’ve heard a theory that she’s ashara dain. I forget the details but it was compelling idea
She is the false dragon real mother
I thought Malaquo was with Victarion. Trying to get to Daenarys to help her? But the red priest said he was corrupted by the Yunkai.
You're thinking of Moqorro, I think?
@@Mj_Jetson Oh my. You are correct sir. Thank you 🙏
@@Mj_Jetson Okay. So Malaquo is the main guy right?
Will Young Griff marry Myrcella instead of Dany?
Probably Arianne
The scene at the end was uncomfortable.
Yeah it's one of the darkest things Tyrion has done
Ser jorah they can never make me like you🤢
Aegon will be the Valonquar thats my guess hes gonna help invade get his face half burned off and find Cersei chokes her to death
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I know this is not the TV show, but, I d like Tyrian to become Daenery s advisor
He will be a rival.
Tyrion dies of greyscale in wow or ados
is savas like battleship
Chess
Why is there a deleted video between chapter 21 and 22?
First!!
Also first and ONLY to give yourself a thumbs up!
@@angelined9814 Fifth to give them a thumbs up.
Jorah really is down bad... he chose a whre that looks like Daeny.. poor fella
Fucking disgusting.
The ones who believe in Gods are the trouble so true
Where the hell....
Are y'all finding these pics??
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48:28 jorah