I have had the Z6 II since it came out (end of 2020) and I only have problems when people are running or making abrupt movements. When walking I get 9/10 in focus but for example not as many when dancing, etc. The other factor that affects focus speed and accuracy is low light, say 12,800 ISO or so. I think it would be better to test the Z6 III and Z8 in challenging scenarios like that: low light + fast moving objects otherwise you will never know the difference between them bc you are not pushing them to the limits. All the best.
Nice comparison. I wish you would have tested the af while the subject was moving away from the camera. That’s a scenario that I’ve noticed that even the Z8 can fail in often. I would’ve also like to see you shoot in higher burst rates. The eye af and af in general has improved greatly for Nikon especially from a photographers perspective, but I have come across a few scenarios that Nikon doesn’t handle well. I had a couple late evening prom shoots and the Z8 paired the 85mm 1.2 struggled to focus at times, so it would be nice to see if the lower megapixel count of the Z6III would give a slightly improved low light performance.
With Nikon, you need to rotate the zoom ring counter clockwise to a closer focus & then press the AF button. Also it needs a decent amount of subject contrast to see for it to pull focus. Once you know this, it easy to grab focus. Maybe a little more work than other brands but not sure because I haven't used them. But seems so by watching vids on you tube. Nikon hits the mark on price point with the Z8, Z6III & their lens line up. Plus since their latest firmware updates, they are really, really close to the other big two & way ahead of way more expensive brand cameras when talking AF performance. Thanks for the vid Ryan.
The differences probably will not show until you compare them with small and quick birds in flight. Even the Z6 & Z7 II will do well in the scenarios of a single person w/o distractions.
I do agree with small and quick birds but unfortunately I’m just a portrait photographer. However my next test will be night and my z7ii struggled at night with focus
Cant really tell how good or bad it was from this test. But as a z6,z6ii, and z8 owner. I appreciate you doing the test. What I mean is that I am sure the z6ii could have passed that test. To me both the z8 and z6iii shine in more complex and fast moving situations. like sports. or shooting an event where you need to lock on to one person. Or quickly more from subject to subject. I do look forward to more tests and your views on the Z6iii.
I am going to do a low light test today. thing is. coming from the z7ii being close and even in the studio although it appears to be on the eye i had to take a lot of shots just because it would be soft on the eye although it showed it being on the eye in the evf. I never took 100 photos and every last one hit the eye even if they were right in front of my face.
Z7II subject acquisition/ tracking was definitely not as good in lower light as Z6II. Regardless, the Z6III is a whole different level by far. And supposedly even a little better in the lowest light than even the Z8/9 (and my Z8 can literally lock on eyes in the dark lol)
As a photographer who specializes in horror cosplay and 90% of my work is shot in the woods at night with just one soft box lighting most scenes, my Z7ii never failed me in low light.
Thanks for this comparison - always nice to see Nikon making progress on the lower end of their line. The one thing that struck me was the blackout on the Z6 iii. Honestly had forgotten about that aspect! I do wonder if it will impact tracking on faster subjects. Perhaps not, since on the Z 8 and Z 9 it is really just an illusion, with the duplicated frames. But I do wonder.
For people I think it's on par. Where I think the Z8/Z9 have the upper edge is with wildlife and sports, with fast action. Even the Zf was able to handle eye AF quite well (especially given it uses the older regular BSI sensor which is a bit slower). Although it did hit focus, I think in some of the tests I've seen regarding comparisons the Z6 III can be a bit jumpy, compared to the Z8/Z9 which seemd a bit more smooth in terms of live-view display but overall I think both will perform slightly better (I think the partially stacked sensor is a good and coupled with the Expeed 7, has made a huge difference over previous generations, but the fully stacked sensor will always have the upper hand in demanding tasks like sports/wildlife). That being said, I think the Z6 III is delivering the value they are asking for it ($2500 USD) and it is doing what Nikon had expected it to do. It's not a Z8, but it's also not priced like a Z8 either, so there will be some differences but for the majority of shooting, it will keep up. It's the demanding tasks I think is where we will see the biggest difference. Keeper rate for birds and wildlife seem to be a tad bit better and part of that may also be the burst rate that the Z8 can achieve, but again, that comes with a price. I'd say for maybe 3/4 of people out there or anyone who doesn't shoot wildlife or sports, the Z6 III will be plenty.
Great video. Definitely going to pick one up for Christmas. Will likely keep my Z6 II for a backup. Was thinking about saving for a Z8 but the Z6 III is a beast and meets all my needs. Just got to get use to the flippy screen and wanting a higher MP sensor.
Thanks for the comparison. I am tossing up between the Z8 and the Z6iii, but it will be 90% video, 10% stills, and 4k is as far as I can see myself needing to go at this time. I currently shoot a D800 and a D850, and do love the increased ability to "crop-zoom" with the higher D850's resolution, but have found it a bit finicky in terms of focus at times compared with the D800. It appears the higher resolution of the Z8 does not have the same issue compared to the Z6iii when it comes to images, so now it's just down to picking which one feels better in my hands I guess - I do love the larger D850 body compared to my old D7000, so I think that may be the deciding factor
Ok... I was curious about the difference between z6iii 24.5mp vs z8 45.7mp sensors... will i not have good detail if i crop and zoom in on a pic ,or lack detail with the z6 vs the z8.. please break this down ha... I'm a newbie..
If megapixels don’t matter to you the z6iii will be better in low light at higher ISO. If megapixels do matter and having the ability to crop and still have a lot of mega pixels after then the z8
good tutorial thanks for that... another question... can you record proress raw videos on the Ninja v with the z6iii proress or is it only possible internally??? best regards Andi
Thanks for the vidéo. My Z6iii has lots photos that are not in focus. The square is right on the eye but the focus is somewhere else. It is not Perfectly in focus and That is upsetting me. With the same settings, somtimes it’s very good, but some Times it misses the shot and it’s not acceptable
Ryan, Thank for making this tedious comparison test between the AF of the Z6 III and the Z8. I am an event photographer and 24 megapixel is all I need plus it has better noise control. I ordered the Z 6 III and look forward to using it. I have not see any deal-breaking reasons for not upgrading to the Z6 III Dan
If you had a z6ii or z7ii you would know that’s not true. With those cameras although it put it on the eye a lottttt of shots were soft. And didn’t actually focus on the eye every single time. I use to shoot a lot just because of that. But with this camera it hit everything
@@RyanTroy Hi Ryan, it is almost impossible for me and most other non-native English/American speakers to hear the acoustic difference between the two C's (C and Z) that you certainly use, but which is indistinguishable (to us). So in real life it's our problem, not yours ;-) lol But I think it would be a great idea if everyone said "Zet" to Z ;-) Please allow me to ask a serious question: Did you say the alphabet the same way in school, or was zet said there? If so, is it more of a colloquial development from zet to ci? Anyway, thanks for your information!
@@dieterlukas7410 honestly I thought it was “zed” and not “zet” but I never knew people said zet until 4 years ago when Nikon went with “Z” for cameras lol
I have had the Z6 II since it came out (end of 2020) and I only have problems when people are running or making abrupt movements. When walking I get 9/10 in focus but for example not as many when dancing, etc. The other factor that affects focus speed and accuracy is low light, say 12,800 ISO or so.
I think it would be better to test the Z6 III and Z8 in challenging scenarios like that: low light + fast moving objects otherwise you will never know the difference between them bc you are not pushing them to the limits.
All the best.
the z8 is faster on the crounch/stand test. but z6iii is doing what it's suppose to. z8 is gonna be a bit better in video AF in day time it seems.
Nice comparison. I wish you would have tested the af while the subject was moving away from the camera. That’s a scenario that I’ve noticed that even the Z8 can fail in often. I would’ve also like to see you shoot in higher burst rates. The eye af and af in general has improved greatly for Nikon especially from a photographers perspective, but I have come across a few scenarios that Nikon doesn’t handle well. I had a couple late evening prom shoots and the Z8 paired the 85mm 1.2 struggled to focus at times, so it would be nice to see if the lower megapixel count of the Z6III would give a slightly improved low light performance.
Just my opinion. But f/1.2 glass causes cameras to struggle a bit more. I think it may have something to with the shallower depth of field. IMHO
With Nikon, you need to rotate the zoom ring counter clockwise to a closer focus & then press the AF button. Also it needs a decent amount of subject contrast to see for it to pull focus. Once you know this, it easy to grab focus. Maybe a little more work than other brands but not sure because I haven't used them. But seems so by watching vids on you tube. Nikon hits the mark on price point with the Z8, Z6III & their lens line up. Plus since their latest firmware updates, they are really, really close to the other big two & way ahead of way more expensive brand cameras when talking AF performance. Thanks for the vid Ryan.
I love the idea of the sensor cover on the Z8.
The Z6 III's AF performance is right up there with the Z8/9 and Zf. Looking forward to using mine, when I get to go pick it up.
How does it compare to Sony?
The differences probably will not show until you compare them with small and quick birds in flight. Even the Z6 & Z7 II will do well in the scenarios of a single person w/o distractions.
I do agree with small and quick birds but unfortunately I’m just a portrait photographer. However my next test will be night and my z7ii struggled at night with focus
Z6/7ii would not nail every shot in a sequence like that.
Z6 ii would not handle something so simple it is soooo frustrating!!
@@livejames9374 Maybe not with the auto area, but if you put a box over the subject the Z6 II will follow it easily
@@blackdiesel you’d still have some misses where focus is behind.
I cant wait to get my Z6iii once Nikon drops another batch
Who you telling!! I need this camera in my hands for longer
Panasonic s5ii has better autofocus and dynamic range. Overall better buy for sure.
@@alphaandomega2709 good for Panasonic 👌🏾
Cant really tell how good or bad it was from this test. But as a z6,z6ii, and z8 owner. I appreciate you doing the test. What I mean is that I am sure the z6ii could have passed that test. To me both the z8 and z6iii shine in more complex and fast moving situations. like sports. or shooting an event where you need to lock on to one person. Or quickly more from subject to subject. I do look forward to more tests and your views on the Z6iii.
I am going to do a low light test today. thing is. coming from the z7ii being close and even in the studio although it appears to be on the eye i had to take a lot of shots just because it would be soft on the eye although it showed it being on the eye in the evf. I never took 100 photos and every last one hit the eye even if they were right in front of my face.
Good test, but what the z6 and z7 struggled with was low light eye af, they were absolutely awful. I had the z7ii.
That is my next test. I’m doing that one tonight.
Comparison with the z7ii or z6ii?
Z7II subject acquisition/ tracking was definitely not as good in lower light as Z6II.
Regardless, the Z6III is a whole different level by far. And supposedly even a little better in the lowest light than even the Z8/9 (and my Z8 can literally lock on eyes in the dark lol)
@@csc-photoI argue that it is better on paper. In the real world you wouldn’t notice.
As a photographer who specializes in horror cosplay and 90% of my work is shot in the woods at night with just one soft box lighting most scenes, my Z7ii never failed me in low light.
I have the Z8 & 9 so I dont have a need for one of these, however looks like this camera is right up there with the best of them.
100%
Thanks for this comparison - always nice to see Nikon making progress on the lower end of their line. The one thing that struck me was the blackout on the Z6 iii. Honestly had forgotten about that aspect! I do wonder if it will impact tracking on faster subjects. Perhaps not, since on the Z 8 and Z 9 it is really just an illusion, with the duplicated frames. But I do wonder.
For people I think it's on par. Where I think the Z8/Z9 have the upper edge is with wildlife and sports, with fast action. Even the Zf was able to handle eye AF quite well (especially given it uses the older regular BSI sensor which is a bit slower). Although it did hit focus, I think in some of the tests I've seen regarding comparisons the Z6 III can be a bit jumpy, compared to the Z8/Z9 which seemd a bit more smooth in terms of live-view display but overall I think both will perform slightly better (I think the partially stacked sensor is a good and coupled with the Expeed 7, has made a huge difference over previous generations, but the fully stacked sensor will always have the upper hand in demanding tasks like sports/wildlife).
That being said, I think the Z6 III is delivering the value they are asking for it ($2500 USD) and it is doing what Nikon had expected it to do. It's not a Z8, but it's also not priced like a Z8 either, so there will be some differences but for the majority of shooting, it will keep up. It's the demanding tasks I think is where we will see the biggest difference. Keeper rate for birds and wildlife seem to be a tad bit better and part of that may also be the burst rate that the Z8 can achieve, but again, that comes with a price. I'd say for maybe 3/4 of people out there or anyone who doesn't shoot wildlife or sports, the Z6 III will be plenty.
I can agree with that!
Great video. Definitely going to pick one up for Christmas. Will likely keep my Z6 II for a backup. Was thinking about saving for a Z8 but the Z6 III is a beast and meets all my needs. Just got to get use to the flippy screen and wanting a higher MP sensor.
Dont cheat yourself!! get BOTH! lol just kidding.
What about the AF on the Nikon Zf vs Z6III ??
I can do that test when i get my hands on both.
Thanks for the comparison. I am tossing up between the Z8 and the Z6iii, but it will be 90% video, 10% stills, and 4k is as far as I can see myself needing to go at this time. I currently shoot a D800 and a D850, and do love the increased ability to "crop-zoom" with the higher D850's resolution, but have found it a bit finicky in terms of focus at times compared with the D800. It appears the higher resolution of the Z8 does not have the same issue compared to the Z6iii when it comes to images, so now it's just down to picking which one feels better in my hands I guess - I do love the larger D850 body compared to my old D7000, so I think that may be the deciding factor
Please compare high iso 3200, 6400 z6 iii vs z6 ii ❤
Will Do!
@@RyanTroy yes Ryan 👍👍👍👍
What camera brand and lens are you filming this video with ?
at this time i actually had two Z8's 24-70 2.8
@ The quality looks amazing
@ thank you
Ok... I was curious about the difference between z6iii 24.5mp vs z8 45.7mp sensors... will i not have good detail if i crop and zoom in on a pic ,or lack detail with the z6 vs the z8.. please break this down ha... I'm a newbie..
Ok. I can work on putting that together.
I happy to have found your channel. I love my Z8… so do you have a video on how to retouch or provided lessons on retouching?
NIKON Z6 III vs NIKON Z8 witch one for good concert pics indoors
If megapixels don’t matter to you the z6iii will be better in low light at higher ISO. If megapixels do matter and having the ability to crop and still have a lot of mega pixels after then the z8
good tutorial thanks for that... another question... can you record proress raw videos on the Ninja v with the z6iii proress or is it only possible internally???
best regards Andi
Good one! I can see what i can do!
00:14 - Damn, the "Z68" must a really great camera, I can't wait to have you. Ahah
😂😂😂😂😂
Glad you got one!🎊 🎉
I wish.
Tes the AF in lowlight situation,,,
there is a video on my channel with me doing that
That annoying and way too loud background music...I couldn't even make it to the third minute...
aww.. i apologize.
thanks for this dude
Of course!! thank you for watching!
wow. your eye glasses is very very clean. Look at the glare :D
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
they are fake lol
cant wait for the Z6VIII ! 😂 jk nice video !
Still can't decide wether to go for a Z6III , Z7II or Z8 or just change brands completely
😂😂😂😂😂
Where do you we hear your opinion ? Whats the point of making us watch a long video without a clear opinion ?
@@sramabadran well it’s for you to decide
meh I"ve been waiting for a long time anyway. I'm going to wait for Z7iii and a7v to compare with
orrrrrr... you can just get a z8 👀
Thanks for the vidéo. My Z6iii has lots photos that are not in focus. The square is right on the eye but the focus is somewhere else. It is not
Perfectly in focus and That is upsetting me. With the same settings, somtimes it’s very good, but some Times it misses the shot and it’s not acceptable
Ryan,
Thank for making this tedious comparison test between the AF of the Z6 III and the Z8.
I am an event photographer and 24 megapixel is all I need plus it has better noise control.
I ordered the Z 6 III and look forward to using it. I have not see any deal-breaking reasons for not upgrading to the Z6 III
Dan
Did you find this model in the parking lot as well where are you lol
lol no, she is on my channel quite a lot
Ryan: TURN OFF the damn background music. We geezers can't hear you over the music.
my apologies
Any camera would have performed under this softball test.
If you had a z6ii or z7ii you would know that’s not true. With those cameras although it put it on the eye a lottttt of shots were soft. And didn’t actually focus on the eye every single time. I use to shoot a lot just because of that. But with this camera it hit everything
Aha, did not know that Nikon had C 6 III and Nikon C 8, but many thanks for the test of Z 6III and Z8 ;-)
lol I think it’s just my accent. Maybe I should start saying Zed like they do in other countries 🤔 lol
@@RyanTroy Hi Ryan, it is almost impossible for me and most other non-native English/American speakers to hear the acoustic difference between the two C's (C and Z) that you certainly use, but which is indistinguishable (to us).
So in real life it's our problem, not yours ;-) lol
But I think it would be a great idea if everyone said "Zet" to Z ;-)
Please allow me to ask a serious question:
Did you say the alphabet the same way in school, or was zet said there?
If so, is it more of a colloquial development from zet to ci?
Anyway, thanks for your information!
@@dieterlukas7410 honestly I thought it was “zed” and not “zet” but I never knew people said zet until 4 years ago when Nikon went with “Z” for cameras lol
Ryan I Luv Ya Man .... But that was Bogus Sorry... after You see this delete it
😂😂😂 what was bogus?
The difference:
th-cam.com/video/JbyfZvHRH4U/w-d-xo.html