We added Sumo Springs to our Fleetwood Bounder 36E and it made a world of difference in the way it handled. Would Recommend them to anyone with the F53.
Very good video. We own a class A Winnebago on an F53, 18K chassis. Purchased the coach new 20 months ago. Took a 5000 mile cross country trip and hated the suspension. We added Koni shocks, it helped, then Safe-T-Plus, and it helped, then the rear track bar ( it helped sway when trucks pass us). But adding the Sumo Springs really smoothed things out. It will never ride like a diesel pusher, but the suspension upgrades were definitely worth it. 20,000 miles now with all the upgrades and we don’t mind those bad interstate roads so much. Thank you for your video.
I threw a pair on the rear of my '04 HR Traveler just because they were a quick and easy to see if the rear springs were the real issue. The prior owner had thrown everything possible at the P32 it was built on and it still drove so bad his wife made him sell it, refusing to ever ride in it again. Well, they improved the handling enough to see what was really needed was rear springs. I had heavier new main leaves installed and re-arched the others, now it finally drives as it should. I see Sumos as something you would use on a pickup that *occasionally* carries enough weight so make it squat but definitely not as an every-day cure.
So great video. Not sure if paid or not. Folks, we have paid for all our shocks, sumo springs and air bags our whole life and never paid to have them we paid our own cash every time. Sumo Springs are a must for the fronts, enough said. Sumo springs in the rear are for folks not really towing or pulling weight, (small toad would be fine). Air bags are just. Hands down the way to go, we recommend Pack Brake Bags. Also always pick your favorite steering shock any one you pick will be a HUGE upgrade to the junk stock one. And for Shocks Koni is number one. $$$$$$$, Bilstiens are number 2 but still great. Folks at min. When you have to start basic, we recommend all 4 shocks (Koni), All 4 (Sumo Springs), and (Steering stabilizer shock). Around $2800.00 if you do the work yourself. God Bless and many happy safe miles. USMC/USAF Ret.
@@davidreaves9231 So, after buying way too many on various trucks through the years. We found that once you get into double axels on anything. Air is just how you end up in the end and opens more doors as well. We love sumo, there just a time and place for them on the rear. PaKBrake is so affordable, it just takes out all the questions and hope so’s…..
Thank you for checking out the video. I am a supporter of your products for sure, and will be using your company in the future. I would like to pursue becoming a dealer/ installer in our area if available.
Why are you doing a video on springs on an F53 chassis, but you flash a picture of a coach with a tag axle at the beginning of the video. Is there something I'm missing. Some super F-53 that I have never heard of perhaps.
One correction - the washers on the J brackets are supposed to be placed between the base plate and the J brackets, not between the bracket and the nut. I just did this install on my 26K Tiffin. ;-)
Great Video Asher! We specialize in the Ford F53 Chassis. We should talk to you about some other great Ford F53 solutions. Maybe even doing a video on them. :)
Thank you !! I really appreciate it. I hope it has helped give some info to folks out there looking to upgrade . If you all are interested in doing a video in the future I would be Thrilled to be a part of that . Thanks for your time and for the comment. I will send an email and would love to set something up.
Did you do a video of your rear install I have the front, but I haven't installed them yet because the motorhome is at the dealership and when I get the MH back, I will have to buy the one for the rear but thank you for the video? I did install the Safe-T-Plus and the Rear Trac-Bar and Koni's shock and it ride so much better, so after I install the Sumo Springs it should ride extra smooth.
Yes sir I do have the rear footage and I'll get it together ASAP. I actually had it most of the way edited and lost the entire video lol. But I will be sure to get that going for you. If you haven't hit that subscribe and Bell icon and you will be notified when I do, but on top of that I'll mention you in the comments to make sure you see it That's great that the shocks and the stabilizer made an improvement. I would imagine a factory shock on any gas Coach has room for improvement,so smart moving going there first.
I also have the footage to compare rear Liquid Springs to Rear Sumo Springs also if that's something that would interest you ,stay posted! Thanks for your time!
www.superspringsinternational.com/product-search/?product_year=2017&product_make=Ford&product_model=E-450+Super+Duty&product_drive_type=4+X+2 This may get you what you need. Email me and I'll try to figure out exactly what you do need. robbeeasher@gmail.com
Thanks for the input. The combo I installed worked well, installed multiple since then. Several customers are very happy with what is on there. Thanks for you comment
Wrong. Yellow are the most heavy duty ones, then black, then blue. Yellow = 2800 lbs at 50% compression Black = 1500 lbs at 50% compression Blue = 1000 lbs at 50% compression
I put summo springs on my 2021 f250 superduty PURE JUNK I pull a 5th wheel with a tongue weight of 2100 lbs absolutely SQUASHED THEM got another pair CRUSHED THEM I now have airbags
My black ones have made a huge difference in handling and ride. So much improvement that I just installed 4 on my 5th wheel and everything has improved.
![CLASS A MOTORHOME SUSPENSION UPGRADES [NOT SO CHEAP HANDLING FIX]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/oR9SNb6T7LE/mqdefault.jpg)
We added Sumo Springs to our Fleetwood Bounder 36E and it made a world of difference in the way it handled. Would Recommend them to anyone with the F53.
Very good video.
We own a class A Winnebago on an F53, 18K chassis. Purchased the coach new 20 months ago. Took a 5000 mile cross country trip and hated the suspension. We added Koni shocks, it helped, then Safe-T-Plus, and it helped, then the rear track bar ( it helped sway when trucks pass us). But adding the Sumo Springs really smoothed things out. It will never ride like a diesel pusher, but the suspension upgrades were definitely worth it. 20,000 miles now with all the upgrades and we don’t mind those bad interstate roads so much.
Thank you for your video.
I threw a pair on the rear of my '04 HR Traveler just because they were a quick and easy to see if the rear springs were the real issue. The prior owner had thrown everything possible at the P32 it was built on and it still drove so bad his wife made him sell it, refusing to ever ride in it again. Well, they improved the handling enough to see what was really needed was rear springs. I had heavier new main leaves installed and re-arched the others, now it finally drives as it should. I see Sumos as something you would use on a pickup that *occasionally* carries enough weight so make it squat but definitely not as an every-day cure.
So great video. Not sure if paid or not. Folks, we have paid for all our shocks, sumo springs and air bags our whole life and never paid to have them we paid our own cash every time. Sumo Springs are a must for the fronts, enough said. Sumo springs in the rear are for folks not really towing or pulling weight, (small toad would be fine). Air bags are just. Hands down the way to go, we recommend Pack Brake Bags. Also always pick your favorite steering shock any one you pick will be a HUGE upgrade to the junk stock one. And for Shocks Koni is number one. $$$$$$$, Bilstiens are number 2 but still great. Folks at min. When you have to start basic, we recommend all 4 shocks (Koni), All 4 (Sumo Springs), and (Steering stabilizer shock). Around $2800.00 if you do the work yourself. God Bless and many happy safe miles. USMC/USAF Ret.
I'm not sure I understand your comment about rear Sumo's not for towing. Can you please explain?
@@davidreaves9231 So, after buying way too many on various trucks through the years. We found that once you get into double axels on anything. Air is just how you end up in the end and opens more doors as well. We love sumo, there just a time and place for them on the rear. PaKBrake is so affordable, it just takes out all the questions and hope so’s…..
Appreciate your video and comments! Thanks for your business. -Adam
Thank you for checking out the video.
I am a supporter of your products for sure, and will be using your company in the future.
I would like to pursue becoming a dealer/ installer in our area if available.
Just an FYI my Thor 29M bump stops took a 1/2 socket to remove them!
Why are you doing a video on springs on an F53 chassis, but you flash a picture of a coach with a tag axle at the beginning of the video. Is there something I'm missing. Some super F-53 that I have never heard of perhaps.
One correction - the washers on the J brackets are supposed to be placed between the base plate and the J brackets, not between the bracket and the nut. I just did this install on my 26K Tiffin. ;-)
Great Video Asher! We specialize in the Ford F53 Chassis. We should talk to you about some other great Ford F53 solutions. Maybe even doing a video on them. :)
Thank you !! I really appreciate it. I hope it has helped give some info to folks out there looking to upgrade .
If you all are interested in doing a video in the future I would be Thrilled to be a part of that . Thanks for your time and for the comment.
I will send an email and would love to set something up.
@@AsherRV LETS DO THAT VIDEO!!!!
I'm ready anytime!. What's the best way to get in contact with you?
How much should someone with a 26k F53 class A expect to pay for front and rear Sumos (including installation)? Ballpark is fine...
Did you do a video of your rear install I have the front, but I haven't installed them yet because the motorhome is at the dealership and when I get the MH back, I will have to buy the one for the rear but thank you for the video? I did install the Safe-T-Plus and the Rear Trac-Bar and Koni's shock and it ride so much better, so after I install the Sumo Springs it should ride extra smooth.
Yes sir I do have the rear footage and I'll get it together ASAP. I actually had it most of the way edited and lost the entire video lol. But I will be sure to get that going for you. If you haven't hit that subscribe and Bell icon and you will be notified when I do, but on top of that I'll mention you in the comments to make sure you see it
That's great that the shocks and the stabilizer made an improvement. I would imagine a factory shock on any gas Coach has room for improvement,so smart moving going there first.
I also have the footage to compare rear Liquid Springs to Rear Sumo Springs also if that's something that would interest you ,stay posted!
Thanks for your time!
th-cam.com/video/fuzRqPbpWNQ/w-d-xo.html
Here is the rear install video
Wonder if they make these for a E450 class c
Yes they do.
What is your year, make, and model?
@@AsherRV 2017 Thor Freedom Elite 32F E-450
www.superspringsinternational.com/product-search/?product_year=2017&product_make=Ford&product_model=E-450+Super+Duty&product_drive_type=4+X+2
This may get you what you need.
Email me and I'll try to figure out exactly what you do need.
robbeeasher@gmail.com
Give me air bags any day
Didn't work for me. E350 Ford Van and I had to take this bad idea off because of Speed bumps and pot holes in the road hit way to hard.
interesting what color did you have
They work well on motorhomes. Can't speak for other applications
Black ones are heavy duty yellow are medium and the blue are light duty
Thanks for the input.
The combo I installed worked well, installed multiple since then. Several customers are very happy with what is on there. Thanks for you comment
Wrong. Yellow are the most heavy duty ones, then black, then blue.
Yellow = 2800 lbs at 50% compression
Black = 1500 lbs at 50% compression
Blue = 1000 lbs at 50% compression
I put summo springs on my 2021 f250 superduty PURE JUNK I pull a 5th wheel with a tongue weight of 2100 lbs absolutely SQUASHED THEM got another pair CRUSHED THEM I now have airbags
Which style did you have? Only asking because they have a few offerings.
@@Iamk2jones The yellow ones
@@BIGWOOD3160 did you have the Solos or the Rebels?
My black ones have made a huge difference in handling and ride. So much improvement that I just installed 4 on my 5th wheel and everything has improved.
Tongue weight of 2100 lbs? Are you insane? Seems like pretty excessive. My hitch weight is limited to 500 lbs.
For the algorithm 🤩🥰💪🫶😁😎👌🥸🤓🥳🫡
Thanks for the support and the comment!! It definitely helps!