Just got the KA17. I already had the KA13. I hear no difference. Power in single ended equal. I like the fact with K13 I can flip on high gain without menu surfing. Digital volume read out is nice, wish it was larger. Desktop mode does have noticeable volume increase but downside is you need an external power source. I think this KA17 is going back. Will wait for KA19 :)
Lucky me I found your post here after going through many reviews on KA17 vs KA13. I own the KA13 and was looking to try the KA17, and you saved me from a disaster. 🙏
My ka17 heats up a lot when connected to the phone, in desktop mode even when connecting a power bank it prefers to rely on the mobile phone's power supply (s23 ultra) without using the current from the power bank. The preset equalizations (rock, pop, classical....) are useless. I don't understand why it doesn't support bit perfect mode, and why it consumes so much power despite the power bank. I don't return it because I would like to use it with 300 hom headphones. I hope FiiO brings new updates for the ka17 app. I've lost a bit of faith in their products.@@radicalturkey
It is usefull, not more. You can adjust the frequencies and Q-values for 10 bands but you can only save 3 Presets and the overall user experience is not comparable to Q5K. If you are using it on a computer you can not change the eq while listening to music (Q5K does that via bluetooth). So if you want to change eq you always need to plug it into an Android phone. If you want to save your eq settings and don´t want to change them often you´ll be fine but if you like to change eq settings a lot and fiddle arround while listening on the computer its not ideal.
Nice, i hope you enjoy it! I also ordered BTR15 and KA17 to compare them and will send one back. A Q6K would be nice but I don't see that coming yet. I'm using my Q5K as a desktop dac connected to topping G5 as an amp (via AUX In) that's one hell of a combo... Q5K on steroids 💪🏻😁
@@rinderkappajoe Oh I didn t know you can do that..Super 👍BTR is very nice and the EQ it may be not 5k but it's good you can do a lot of things and the sound is good neutral with good space
BTR15 just arrived and yes it is really very neutral, open and technical sounding which I enjoy a lot pairing it with my already warm and musical IEMs. KA17 will be returned. Happy listening! :)
@@BrandonAdams1010 colorfly cda m1p is organic or soundmagic A30. Soundmagic is hard to get though. If size doesn't matter to you then zen air dac or zen dac V2 is also very organic. If you want to spend a bit more then hiby fc6 is great option too.
Does it sound like the FiiO KA3?.. I love that dongle. And how much power does it drain from the battery of your phone in normal mode compared to the KA3?
It's like watching a little MP3 player back in the day.
Yeah one of those iriver ones which was funnily enough is now called a&k 😂
Just got the KA17. I already had the KA13. I hear no difference. Power in single ended equal. I like the fact with K13 I can flip on high gain without menu surfing. Digital volume read out is nice, wish it was larger. Desktop mode does have noticeable volume increase but downside is you need an external power source. I think this KA17 is going back. Will wait for KA19 :)
does ka13 also has eq ?
@@amanieux No
Lucky me I found your post here after going through many reviews on KA17 vs KA13. I own the KA13 and was looking to try the KA17, and you saved me from a disaster. 🙏
@@ryder9739 Very happy with KA13!
Hope you can review the KA11
This new Fiio line is crazy.
Despite the power figures, mine has no loader in desktop mode than my BTR7. That's wired into my phone and computer. It's going back.
I have the KA13. Besides the extra features, how is the sound difference? Is the KA17 more powerful on single end?
My ka17 heats up a lot when connected to the phone, in desktop mode even when connecting a power bank it prefers to rely on the mobile phone's power supply (s23 ultra) without using the current from the power bank. The preset equalizations (rock, pop, classical....) are useless.
I don't understand why it doesn't support bit perfect mode, and why it consumes so much power despite the power bank. I don't return it because I would like to use it with 300 hom headphones.
I hope FiiO brings new updates for the ka17 app.
I've lost a bit of faith in their products.@@radicalturkey
KA13 doesn't sound good as the RU7. I am expecting the KA17 to be better than KA13
Ian can you compare vs the Shanling UA4.. The UA4 has only one of the dac ES chips.. Whereas the Fiio KA17 has two..
Ka13 for the win!!!
Nice review..Ian is there a Quedelix alternative dac amp with as good eq ?Fiio's eq is useful or its limited?
It is usefull, not more. You can adjust the frequencies and Q-values for 10 bands but you can only save 3 Presets and the overall user experience is not comparable to Q5K. If you are using it on a computer you can not change the eq while listening to music (Q5K does that via bluetooth). So if you want to change eq you always need to plug it into an Android phone. If you want to save your eq settings and don´t want to change them often you´ll be fine but if you like to change eq settings a lot and fiddle arround while listening on the computer its not ideal.
@@rinderkappajoe I bought BTR 15 I didn t want to buy a new Quedelix because I think they will upgrade it soon
Nice, i hope you enjoy it! I also ordered BTR15 and KA17 to compare them and will send one back. A Q6K would be nice but I don't see that coming yet. I'm using my Q5K as a desktop dac connected to topping G5 as an amp (via AUX In) that's one hell of a combo... Q5K on steroids 💪🏻😁
@@rinderkappajoe Oh I didn t know you can do that..Super 👍BTR is very nice and the EQ it may be not 5k but it's good you can do a lot of things and the sound is good neutral with good space
BTR15 just arrived and yes it is really very neutral, open and technical sounding which I enjoy a lot pairing it with my already warm and musical IEMs. KA17 will be returned. Happy listening! :)
is Fiio Ka17 inline microphone supports?
when i connect it to PC, max i get is 384 khz. It doesn't show me 768 khz, how to fix that
ka17 or ru7?
The SPDIF 3.5 output is optical or coaxial? Thanks
Trebleheads gonna love it I am staying away. No hope from fiio so far.
What would be a good organic sounding dongle DAC for a decent price?
@@BrandonAdams1010 colorfly cda m1p is organic or soundmagic A30. Soundmagic is hard to get though. If size doesn't matter to you then zen air dac or zen dac V2 is also very organic. If you want to spend a bit more then hiby fc6 is great option too.
@@BrandonAdams1010 EPZ tp20 at 49$
That's why I don't rely on reviews.. Lol ka17 is not. Bright what kind of ears you have?
Agree , for him better use lamps if ka17 bright.
@@AbalMarius Plus 1 for KA17 not being bright at all. It sounds almost identical to K7 which is pretty neutral but warm leaning
U Audio is USB audio 1.0 or 2.0 etc
Does it sound like the FiiO KA3?.. I love that dongle. And how much power does it drain from the battery of your phone in normal mode compared to the KA3?
which brand is the Green colored dac?
Colourfly cda-m1p
I'll pay 80 bucks for it in a few months. Brand new. 😏
Bro that's crazy tho
Good luck
pay 16 in 10 years............ebay is a great place!!!
They gave me half of the company a few years ago. 😉