Cabela's Alaknak and Kni-Co Alaskan Jr. hot tent
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- We put the Cabela's Alaknak tent and Kni-Co Alaskan Jr. wood stove to the test! We find out how warm the Kni-Co Alaskan Jr. can keep the Cabela's Alaknak 12X12 tent. We're also adding a little back up against the weather with the MSS (Military Sleep System) as our sleeping bag. How long can the Cabela's Alaknak hold in the heat? How much heat can the Kni-Co Alaskan Jr. put out? Tune in to find out!
I heard an excellent trick to keep from having to get up to add wood to the stove in the tent you just make sure your partner has a thinner sleeping bag
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Ill have to remember this lol
You know it's cold when thermomether says "no".
That’s the most Michigan mustache ever
Holy 💩 someone that actually tells you how it is in a hot tent digital readings the works you are the first I've ever see and I've looked on here all go off the point you're was direct and to the point you have just got yourself another subscribe
Been elk hunting for 45 yrs in wall tents ,ID ,MT , CO ,NV , always been comfortable,with canvas ,quilt bags ,and learned to double up a moving blanket ,for heat loss on the cot .👍
One of the best reviews I’ve ever seen. Very honest evaluation of your experience. I appreciate it Noah and thank you so much.
This brings back some memories. Spent 20 years using a Montana Wall Tent for deer camp here in Michigan. Had some seriously cold nights. One thing I discovered is you are either burning your face off or frozen. There is no in between. Also, pro tip: If you happen to let the fire go completely out, it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to get it going again in short order. Prepare to freeze lol. Initially, I purchased the recommended stove with the tent and used that the first year. Yeah, that went immediately! Got a proper barrel stove with a Volgelzang kit! Many, many, many good memories! Worth every minute! Thanks for the video.
What brand and size of barrel stove did you get?
Yes. Same here. Spent many nights in -10° Montana Wall and barrel stove muzzleloader hunting Ottawa NF.
i LIKE YOUR VIDEOS, YOU PRESENT AND EXPLAIN THINGS THAT PEOP[LE WANT TO KNOW!
i WAS CURIOUS AS TO HOW WELL A WOOD STOVE WOUILD HEAT A TENT, AND YOU EXPLAINED AND SHOWED THAT VERY WELL, THANK yOU.
I bought the exact same setup this year and hunted with it on my property in the U.P. I got the Vestibule as well and that made a huge difference by being able to keep boots and firewood outside of the tent. Also the lantern hook that is made to hang on the center pole was really good for lighting the interior. I think I might get the water tank that mounts to the side of the stove. It may retain and radiate heat longer when the fire dies down overnight. Overall three guys were pretty comfortable on cots in that setup with relatively high winds and temps that dipped below 20 degrees F.
Hey bro, was looking for info on this tent, and your videos are exceptionally well done. Thanks for taking the time to show us all the features and setup, etc. Cheers from Ab, 🇨🇦Canada
Good video. good test and info. keep it up!
Great video. Thank you.
I literally just got back home today from hot tent camping over Thanksgiving weekend with my best friend and went through all of these tests in below freezing temps hang mylar from the walls and you will be amazed at the overall temperature increase in your tent..... Also get that wood stove rip-worn hot with the door wide open bring that stove pipe to a red heat before bed by cooking your meal over it to give yourself a nice hot cold bed in the stove before you load it up and pack it as full as you can then close the door which acts like your choke on a chainsaw... You'll be able to dry out your gear as well by turning that into a sweat lodge.
Before you climb into the sleeping bag, fill the stove with every piece of wood you can cram into it, close the door, and damp it down. WAY down. You'll be producing heat for 5 or 6 hours and you'll have a bed of coals that will have fresh wood blazing almost instantly.
I couldn’t sleep in there if it was 80° and Jennifer Anniston was in my sleeping bag due to all the traffic and dog barking lol
Idd add some fire bricks in the stoves burn box to add a heat mass. Might add some time to your temp drops
I was thinking the exact same thing!
I like your honesty. That was a huge woodstove in comparison to some I've seen on videos & you still froze.
With the temp sensor, I had to laugh. Inside it was "Low". Outside is just: "No...."
Great video
Very helpful videos
Great video and information 👊🏼🇺🇸
Hey man that is a really good size tent. I think that your stove is the right size, for the tent space. The problem is mostly heat loss. I have been considering getting a portable stove for a hot tent and your video really encouraged me to do so.
While the stove will only burn for certain amount of time, I think part of the solution will be to apply a sort of liner or reflective on the ceiling to hold heat longer. Remember that while you are heating the tent, you are also fighting the cold outside, so its robbing you of heat.
I saw another video where a guy camped near a lake up north and his tent had an inflatable liner which kept him warm. Maybe something inflatable for the walls might prolong the heat withing the tent.
Either way, great video and stay warm camping.
I thought the same thing about losing heat in the tent he had.
All this 2021 tech and a mercury thermo would still have been more reliable
Fellow Michigander! Howdy neighbor! Dude, that’s cold af, no matter the stove size (as big as you can use in a tent) you gotta feed it just like you experienced. And the amount of wood you burn makes it a whole lot of work. A propane heater would keep that place toasty! Nice damn tent I for sure though!
If your looking for a better quality stove, give four dog stoves a try - they will hold a fire much longer. Yes, they are more expensive - buy once, cry once!!! If you want to keep the stove you have, then try using some type of "bio-bricks" for your nighttime burn. Great channel and new sub here.
I use fir and larch in my kni co packer wood stove. Heat's great. I tried a combination of presto logs and larch at night and they lasted 3 hours before restocking.
Thanks for the video. Been binge watching a lot of hot tent videos (with NO plans to do it) and was wondering how warm it actually was inside the tent (I don't trust it when people that spend tons of time outdoors say it's "toasty")..
Good video guys enjoyed it
My family and I lived in one of these tents while building our cabin in the remote alaskan wilderness. From break up to freeze up. You need every vent open because of the condensation which makes it hard to heat. I put fireboard behind the stove, I dont know how these tents dont catch fire without one. The fabric is much thinner than a heavy wall tent and its gets to hot to touch. Embers burn lots of holes on top. Would have been nice being an outfitter/hunting tent if there was some kind of gun rack. Some velcro in the corner or something to secure a leaning rifle. I milled a bunch of 1x8 to lay down as a platform under the tent for a floor. The vestibule makes it so nice to store wood and to remove boots before entering.
Back in Ohio in January during the 1960’s on the back 40 property, we built a nice lean to.the fire pit was a few feet away. Using material on the ground we weave a wind break. Stay the weekend out there. Mom came out after we got the fire going and spent some time sitting in the lean to. Gave it her stamp of approval for her children to spent the night out side in 20 degree weather.
Awesome ! 👌
Have you thought about making a liner for the walls? You might have to sew in toggles to hang it, but I wonder how much that would help, putting an extra layer between you on the elements
Using duct tape and space blankets helps tremendously... ask me how I know....
Like a tapestry in the old castles!
“YOU GUESSED IT!”
Man, I was really on tonight! I guessed right throughout the whole video.
Great video buddy, and I subbed
Tent space to heat is huge!
Good video.. Wondering how the floor is holding up with the cots, and the stove sparks? I have a knico alaskan jr. I have a few times gotten 4.5 hours out of it, but with hard wood. Usually average 3 - 3.5.
Did you put the stove right on the tend floor? Why did you not zip open the floor? Do you have a 5" stove pipe? I bought 4" nesting stove pipe with my two dog and it doesn't fill the stove jack opening. Going to have to get some 5" pipe to fill the stove jack up. Thanks for the video.
I have the same sleeping bag system and combined it is rated for negative 40. The outer shell is a pain to sleep in as you always feel like your slipping and sliding.
I have that same stove and also have the 12x12 Alaknak. In colder temps I have a larger stove (4 Dog Stove) that I use. It produces more heat and holds it a lot longer, but is 52lbs and is just more bulky to load in the back of my truck. To be honest I have a high end down sleeping bag and just usually let the fire burn down and use the bag for warmth through the night and then stoke the fire in the morning. The problem with this is water bottles freeze unless they are put in something to insulate them. Climbing out of the bag in the morning when it is 21 degrees in the tent (or colder) is not fun, but I usually put a lantern and Buddy Heater within reach of my cot. I can reach out and fire them up without getting out of my bag and they warm things up a few degrees. However, I will say that getting up in the night to go to the bathroom when the air temp in your tent is in the low 20s is not that much fun. lol
Great channel name! How was this not take already... LOL Great video too!
Great report, makes me want a rabbit pellet feeder for camping
I saw the name, Mansplaning and I subscribed right away.
GO BUCKS!
From experience... get a battery fan 20,000mah hang up high, point down, have a Mr Buddy heater W/ 20LB TANK also, close up most lower vent holes, but DEFINITELY RUN A CO2 MONITOR ALARM low near sleeping height. Be like sit'n in your living room at home. ...Alan in 🇨🇱
Find a used Ashley Automatic wood stove, thats what we use in our tent. It loads thru the top and some have a door on the front also, will hold two arm loads of wood and you can cook on top of it also.
Thanks
Just some friendly advice I don't think the wood your burning is proper to get max. Burn time you should get yourself some red oak and birds eye maple in that stove of yours I guarantee you'll get way more than 2 hours between loads I could be wrong I've been wrong before but good wood makes good heat up here in Northern alberta I gets -20-30 at night really often and I heat my tent with wood too I usually get about 6 hours per cycle good video
You could try a buddy heater or even a kerosene heater. You could use a buddy heater when the stove goes out. Just make sure there is some air for a little ventilation (This is a must) and buy a carbon monoxide detector and place in the tent near by where you sleep as a double precaution. Try to read up about the Buddy Heater do's and donts (You can find some videos on youtube). Do not skip this part and "fully" read the Buddy Heater manual.
You need a wood stove fan. That's would help move the air better. You won't have to burn so hot.
Looking at getting one these tents. Did you have the front vent of tent blocked off?
Are you thinking winter well or winerwell
La Crosse sensors have an order of installation of the batteries you have to follow to get the remote sensor working. Check it out.
Hey wondering if you have continued to use your stove? And I am wondering what size you cut your wood? Any other tips you have for this stove? Love your video. Just found you because I am looking to buy a Packer Kni-co. I have a 2-person tent so maybe I won’t have to stoke it as often…
If you cut kindling you get a hotter fire but it burns faster... Soft wood burns faster than hardwood...
That was a ton of wood for an hour! Could it be the wood stoves with smaller exhausts are more efficient? The winnerwell has a 3.5" exhaust, and the promoly has 2.6 or so. I'm shopping and never had one.
I bought the 12x12. I'm going hunting in Chama new mexico in 2 weeks. Gonna be around 20s at night. I should be good. Imma buy some coal. So I'm good.
thanks
Chilly night 🥶
Granted, it was very cold outside, but still... with such thin material on this Cabela's tent, it doesn't retain heat very well. I'd bet that the Kodiak 10x10 or 12x12 would retain the heat a lot better.
It's all the time the same with hot tent and stove, bring even more humidity, getting as cold as without it during the middle of the night, heavy, need to be feed often and especially need really dry wood that is almost impossible to find in the forest in winter... I prefer camping without it as you said with a good sleeping bag.
Great videos!. Forgive my not knowing, you live in Alaska? And if so, where at, which part?. Thank you. Awesome videos!
Michigan
do you have issues with condensation?
Have you figured out a way to block the vent at the top of the center pole to keep heat from escaping?
Handyman secret weapon duct tape lol
I have one of those thermometers and have to reset it by taking the battery out then it will pickup the remote again
Believe those gaps under the tent had something to do with it also!
How well does hedge burn in there?
can you post the link to your tent
What kind of wood were you burning?
Barrel stove!
Is your stove a Milsurp tent stove?
Yeah bigger stove.
Or what about using a buddy big heater? Use the buddy heater when the stove goes out
put a wood heater fan on your heater, it runs of of heat so it does not require electricity or any real source of power other than sitting it on top of your heater.
my hunt camp tent is 105 degrees, have to open door to cool down.
I don’t know maybe I’ll sleep in a hot water bottle those are supposed to be pretty good maybe a cover bag never another baby, two hours is enough to yeah no you should be good make sure it’s fire wood ready to go in in the morning, there’s one way you keep the fire going on night without feeding it but you got to be outside-ish to “stack the logs in a V shape put the fire in the middle” they’ll burn all night, lots of luck be safe.
Hand warmers in the bag is another good idea and don’t have to worry about leaks! Making sure there’s enough processed wood ready to burn is really the hardest part! Takes tons of energy and when you’re off grid like my previous hunt videos it’s all by hand.
Always wondered what if you put a load of charcoal in there? That burns for like 4 hours
Exactly my thoughts!
I'm guessing it burns too hot.for a tent that is...
Would an Elmo on the chimney save more heat in thee tent?
You might wanna watch lone Wolf 902 channel. He’s got a video on wood burner camping stoves and a lot of good information about them. As soon as you started saying I think I might get 2 1/2 maybe three hours of burn time. His video popped in my head no that’s a two hour box and that’s it you may get 2 1/2 out of it. If you starve it of oxygen. But then it’s not really putting that much heat out then. He has his own stove that he likes the manufacture. But the information he gives applies to pretty much all the stoves. I know exactly what stove I want. The size of my tent and the size of the stove I need for that tent. and it wouldn’t hurt to get the next size up in the stove. So if I ever decided to go bigger with the tent.
You need to use bigger pieces of wood, smaller pieces of wood it burns to fast .. large rounds should last 3 or 4 hours or more
I would agree with you on that assessment. I have a very small, folding Russian stove that is certainly not as efficient as most of its Western counterparts and packed properly even it will burn for at least two hours.
Maybe even longer, however it would be completely unsuitable for anything much larger than a four person hot tent.
Maybe as a chill chaser in a larger tent, in a few weeks I plan on testing it in a friends larger hunting tent just to see how bad it might be.
@@turtlewolfpack6061 try lining the walls with mylar space blankets.... Ask me how I know..lol
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Those indoor/outdoor thermometers are a bit finicky. You have to follow the directions exactly when putting the batteries in, or else they don't sync properly. I suspect you accidentally synced with a neighbors sensor and were just barely on the edge of it's maximum range. Best thing to do is just take all the batteries out of both units and start fresh. And make sure all the batteries are new too.
That’s a big tent
So here are the problems with your approach....you are trying to make the stove keep the tent warm...the stove should be turned all the way down at night to simply keep the chill out of the air. Your sleeping bag is your warmth provider. This approach will extend your burn time by quite a bit from my experience. Another "trick" is to place some bricks or stones on the stove at night....they will collect heat and radiate it back when it cools down....another problem I see is all the open space....you should pack enough "stuff" in the tent to also absorb heat and help maintain temp....I like to use 1/4 inch plywood strategically cut to place on floor to fill tent with as much firewood as possible, Water jugs will also help.... interior space is your enemy in any tent....using vehicle as windbreak helps immensely as does packing snow around the outside of the tent as high as you can..dig em in! ..tents take a ton of experience and set up prep to use in winter.....if done right...your stove will keep you snug and warm enough to comfortably make it through the most harsh conditions..
Why not use an electric heater??
Do you think a carbon monoxide detector might be a good idea?
I'm shocked don't put out more heat
Wpw..
3:47 lol!
russian bear market tent best i have seen that tent seemed a little thin. just my 2 coppers
And she cost how mutch?
Need better BTU WOOD. OAK HAS VERY HIGH BTU RATING, ALSO CEDAR. AS WELL AS WALNUT. START WITH PINE THEN ADD THE HEAVIER DENSE WOODthat tent doesn't have a liner? If not, it's only a 3 season tent
Naw theres no reason to get the stove red. . LoL .😀👍
14 x14 x24 5/32 thick
Gives you a good suface for cooking
On . Plus 5/32 will hold the heat for a few minutes longer. Yes you would build it set the legs up to doubble as a carrier. .
I would ditch the tent. You should have had a high temp inside of at least 70 to 80 degrees. The tent, if it is insulated, looks way too chincy even though it is a brand name. The smaller the tent, the better when in the wild,
Either the stove sucks, or u dont have the vents set properly on the stove.
Dude looks exactly like every white guy from Michigan. Like an international model.
Your arm looks tired....did you buy the selfy helpy brace! Like the rest of the world! ....coof boost v3 lol!
Ya put bricks on top of stove & they will help a bunch as well. Heat up rocks on stove real hot, then dump them in a hole and cover with 12 inches of dirt, then lay sleeping bags down on top of ground and go to sleep. You will sleep all night, just like Indians did without a tent..
Bigger stove
Fire brick inside & outside of the stove
Get a wlnnerwel it will burn 8 hours less wood
Electronics, why not an old fashion thermometer? KIS. Keep it simple.
Really why are you starting a fire so late.....
That stove is super inefficient. You shoulda choked it down even more...your pipe flute was pretty much wide open...
Try using some good HARD wood.
Throw a tarp over it
Lol and no 😂