12 inch Tom drum head shootout/comparison. 1/2 (11 heads - Remo, Aquarian, Evans) PART I
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- second video of this series: • 12 inch Tom drum head ...
Pattern - wires on
00:08 remo clear diplomat
00:14 remo clear ambassador
00:19 aquarian classic clear
00:25 remo dunnett resotone
00:31 remo clear emperor
00:37 remo clear vintage emperor
00:43 remo diplomat fiberskyn
00:48 remo coated ambassador
00:54 remo coated vintage ambassador
01:00 remo coated emperor
01:06 evans coated G2
Single hits - wires on
01:15 remo clear diplomat
01:20 remo clear ambassador
01:26 aquarian classic clear
01:33 remo dunnett resotone
01:39 remo clear emperor
01:45 remo clear vintage emperor
01:52 remo diplomat fiberskyn
01:59 remo coated ambassador
02:07 remo coated vintage ambassador
02:14 remo coated emperor
02:21 evans coated G2
Pattern - wires off
02:31 remo clear diplomat
02:37 remo clear ambassador
02:42 aquarian classic clear
02:48 remo dunnett resotone
02:54 remo clear emperor
03:00 remo clear vintage emperor
03:06 remo diplomat fiberskyn
03:12 remo coated ambassador
03:19 remo coated vintage ambassador
03:26 remo coated emperor
03:32 evans coated G2
Single hits - wires off
03:41 remo clear diplomat
03:48 remo clear ambassador
03:54 aquarian classic clear
04:00 remo dunnett resotone
04:08 remo clear emperor
04:14 remo clear vintage emperor
04:21 remo diplomat fiberskyn
04:28 remo coated ambassador
04:35 remo coated vintage ambassador
04:42 remo coated emperor
04:50 evans coated G2
Recorded with all the drum mics on, no EQ and no compression.
No reverb. All the lugs of every recording are tuned exactly the same.
Mics used:
two shure KSM137 as overheads.
one SM57 on the snare drum
one SM57 on the 12 inch tom
one AKG D112 inside the kick.
through the pres and converters of a Focusrite Clarett interface.
Drum sticks were Vic Firth 5A (black finish) - เพลง
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There are innumerable ways to tune drums. Some people love Bill Bruford's dry high pitched toms, some like 70s completely dead disco toms. This is just one style I happen to be partial to.
It sounds a bit low when soloed, but it actually records great, in a track.
I've settled on all my toms on Remo Vintage Ambassadors. They seem to record extremely well and be perfectly placed in most mixes with little to no eq. Choice 2 would be clear emperors.
I also apologize for not having had a proper Remo clear ambassador when i did this, but only the made in china, remo designed ambassador that came with the Yamaha. Next time i'll do better!
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I was hoping for black dots.
Ciao Giulio, thank you for taking the time to put all this together. It sounds great!! What pitch (in Hz) did you tone your batter and resonant heads to respectively?
Thanks for doing this. Yeah that UT Ambassador sounds like crap.
I did this first with my eyes shut, then with my eyes opened. And came up with the same verdict. I'm partial to Remo, but Aquarian clear to my ear took top honors. Then Remo coated ambassador. Thank you for taking the time to do this. Speaking for myself, as 27 year veteran of live and studio work it was an eye and ear opening test. For future recording and live/studio performances just might make a big difference. 🥁🤘
I just did the same thing (eyes closed, then open) and was pleasantly surprised that my favorites were Remo Emperor (both finishes) and Remo Vintage Emperor Clear - the heads I used to buy primarily because of the package description. Now I know for sure that they still are the right choice for me - as if I hadn't heard them on my own kit, but it feels good to be reassured by a third party. :)
Same way I did it and same result!
I too am team Aquarian. I think im about to re head my whole kit with em...
That Aquarian suprises me
Every head in this video has a 'papery' sound except the Aquarian Classic Clears IMO. I have used Remo for a while now, I still like the sound of Clear Ambassadors, but I'm going to outfit my kit with Aquarian Classic Clears this time around.
I preferred the sound of the Remo coated heads. I'm not a drummer and I didn't realize there was such a difference in sound so this was very educational.
Personally I would only use clear heads for pop music
Great review Giulio. Appreciate the hard work and consistent tuning that went into the making of this video. REMO Emperor was best to my ears.
I was ready to buy Evans G2's but I may be switching to Aquarian... Thanks for doing them so close together and not talking in between. This is exactly what I needed to understand what I like
It's so crazy that there are so many different kinds of drumheads. Also amazing how the coated Remo emperor and the coated Evans G2 are so similar tot eachother! Also I got to know new types of drumheads that maybe I'll order one of those. I'm going to buy this exact drumset so thank you for the excellent review!
Thank you for taking all that time to do this for us all..... This helps sooooo many people!
Fantastic and useful test. Took a lot of work.
Truly worthy addition.
Great shoot-out, thank you very much for your efforts! Emperors and Vintage Emperors rule!
Remo coated vintage ambassador is my fave here. Your shootouts are phenomenal. Please do cymbals!
I really like those but my favorite are the ambassador clears
The companies that make this stuff should be doing this. These videos don't make enough money for him to buy all the cymbals you want to hear for free.
Thanks for taking the time to do this, as I am upgrading my heads
Is it ok for me to get oversized drum heads for a 10,12,16
Excellent video. Thanks for taking the time to make and upload
That's not a Remo Clear Ambassador. It's a Remo Clear UT Ambassador. BIG difference.
True. Never the less, the UT section shows that you can even get a good sound out of cheaper heads. :D
@@andremittwollen6245Yes, they are not bad at all, but he should have labeled them as such in the video. There is definitely a difference. The real Ambassador is warmer.
I think it really does sound bad when compared with the quality of the other ones...
0:25 Dunett Resotone-batter
0:49 coated Ambassador
1:00 coated Emperor
Thank you! You saved me a small fortune searching for new heads for my kit.... I'm going for ......... oh man I can't remember! Lol Vintage Emporers!
Every head sounds 'papery' to me except for the Aquarians. I recently bought all Aquarian heads for my kit, including the bass drum. It will be my first time using Aquarian heads on my whole drum kit. I'm very excited to finally be using Aquarian Classic Clears, because every time I hear them, I love the sound.
to me nothing has ever sounded better than a coated Emperor no matter what size drum
The coated emperor is probably the best studio drum head
On my toms I use Pinstripe Clear for practicing in the house and Powerstroke 3 or 4 clear at gigs.
Love the coated and clear 2 ply and fyberskyn heads. It would've been nice to see hydraulics, black dots, pinstrips, and maybe powerstrokes thrown into the mix.
Thanks man, great video!
Johan Segeborn if I can give back a tiny fraction of the great work you’ve done for us all! :)
Digging all the Remo Emperor heads for my son's kit.
Great audio‼️thank you✌️🌻
SO HELPFUL
I'm sticking with my coated emperors, the coated g2 sounded great too
3:12 ambassador 3:19 Emperor g2 3:32 Fiberskin 3:06
That was very good thank you. I think that second head, the UT clear, which came free with the new drum, sounded very bad. All the others are very good and in headphones the differences are very interesting. I was surprised at the very short decay on the Vintage Ambassadors.
Vintage has too little resonance imo. I like the Remo coated ambassador the most, infact i just ordered these for all my toms!
nice! thank you :)
thanks !
Wow the Classic Clears sounded much better. Usually I use them as reso heads but they did great in this test as batters.
I'm fanboy boy for remo clears I guess, love the sound
Coated Ambassadors, top and bottom.
Two pieces of Moongel (no cheap variants) at 6 and 9 o’clock right at the edge or in about an inch for more muting to eliminate ring.
Remo clear diplomat was my fav followed by the clear emperor
I think all sound tests need to be “Blind” tests then have everyone choice the best sound! I think there’s a lot of bias based off of what equipment we have or are considering purchasing, whether by name and history or other opinions and viewpoints but if these tests were recorded but released both blindly and visuals (2 separate videos or half and half) I guarantee that people would be surprised by which they believed sounded best! This really is not a great way to choose because most already prejudge versus being neutral.
great work on this video it's very useful! just wanted to ask what do you think is the best reso head for the toms for a maple shell?
Thanks! Check out my video on reso heads: th-cam.com/video/iMaJ_nO8H4Y/w-d-xo.html
You should do reviews on drum heads without the second head. then we can hear the real skin and not the mix of two skins, the way you tune your bottom head is differnt than most of us
Aquarian 👌👌👌
remo coated emperor for me.
DO NOT WATCH VIDEO WHILE LISTENING....
why?
Objectivity! 😛
eh, i mean i dont have a favorite going into this. i just like what i hear those remo coated ambassador emperor sound the best to me i think. nice long, even decay. but it depends what youre looking for. the particular drum you put it on matters too
YES
Only 1 Aquarian head and a reso (mostly) at that?
Clear vintage emperor or coated emperor won for me.
I now like the coated Ambassador. I'm surprised how quick the decay is on the Vintage Ambassador in comparison.
Coated Ambassador -- 3:13... Coated Emperor -- 3:26... G2 Coated -- 3:32...
0:49 coated Ambassador
1:00 coated Emperor
I was surprised how poor the Vintage Remo sounded. I guess I will go with the Emperors - coated give good attack but just enough warmth. Most were fine though.
The vintage coated ambassador sounds like it just woke up after after a big night and hasn't had it's coffee yet.
Thanks for the vid.....Got a resonant head on there?
AndyPutt1 yup just the regular clear (made in China version) ambassador head the set game with.
I prefer the Remo Pinstripes.
Remo clear emperor!!!!!
Evans G2 for the win
Ya? What did you like better about them vs all the other's?
Wow my favorite is the clear ambassador and it is a UT ambassador non the less. Then I like the clear emperor then the same but the coated version of both. Remo for me just sound more natural full and warm with the most attack as well. Evans sound like the head verse the drum shell to me and Aquarian are to dead for my taste.
Did you use the same heads on the bottom?
i sure did!
@@giuliocarmassiThank you so much for your reply.
Aquarian clear is great
The problem with this is that we who are not drummer do not know what the resonant head is and what difference it makes.
Hey Giulio, did you use the same resonant head for all these? If so, which one did you use? Thanks!
Yes, definitely. Clear ambassador resonant head on all the samples. Retuned before each demo, to be exactly the same. Thanks!
How is remo coated emperor in durability compared to clear pinstripe. I breath the shit out of my drums and pinstripes ar good durability wise but I want more warmth to my drums and I think the coated ambassadors or emperor would be my choice. I just dont want them to break right away. Also anyone if your looking for a drum head that is extremely durable the csx is the one for you. Make sure it's the controlled sound x coated. The regular csx coated or not coated is less thick and durable. I've been beating the living hell out of my snare for well over a year and thr head is holding up like a champ. For quite a few months o had the any minute I'll hit through it mentality until I gave that up cuz it just keeps going. I had a coated p3 on my snare for maybe 3 to 6 months and it broke right away. The power I hit the snare with and how high I tune em makes the head wear and break real quick usually. Basically the best head I've used and I'd recommended infinite out of 10
Emperor coated or clear! P4’s even better.
Those Evans are mud covered bricks! Ugh. Also, no Remo Pinstripe?
FLIP ! Talk about mud covered bricks, lol the pinstripes are the muddiest heads ever
Corey Stenlake man, I rock a legit 80’s imperial star. So by default I HAVE to buy pinstripes. Like, I think it’s a law even. Besides, I have tried single ply and once on and tuned it just mocks me, because it knows I lack the ability to NOT beat the holy hell out of it. My Sonor kit likes all kinds of heads, but regardless sounds like crap because, Sonor. But hey, that’s just me.
FLIP ! Haha right on!
Idk for me I’ve tried Evans G2s, EC2s, and then the Remo Pinstripes and the pinstripes literally made all my drums sound like they were stuffed with pillows and muddy. Plus they sounded plasticky when the stick hit them and I broke 2 heads within a couple months lol so needless to say I’m not the biggest fan of them lol. The Evans EC2s are unreallll though
@@drummerboy3786 - Not if you tune them medium / medium high.
i actually thought the g2s were one of the better sounding ones. more balanced and surprisingly bright.
Clear ambassador for me.
00:48 1:00
Tuning to low for a 12 inch tom!!!
well how else are they going to compensate for those tiny ass toms? lol
I don't know if it's the quality of my speakers but I couldn't tell a difference..
Use good, big headphones.
Clear ambassador all the way!
But what were the resonant heads? Same?
clear ambassador, same, retuned for good measure before each test.
@@giuliocarmassi Thank you very much very helpful Cheers!
I prefer the vintage emperor clear
Bro why do i fell like the clear ones break easily
I guess Diplomat.
les resultats sont fausse. je comprends pas l'ambassador doit être plus aigu et plus de resonance que l'emperor alors que c tout l'inverse.
Clear Ambassador is a cheap UT not the USA version you should have used.
Why did you use a UT to represent the ambassador? It's a lower quality head and not a fair comparison.
diplomat as batter head ? serious ?
David Martin didn’t sound bad
Does a drumhead make it sound better
Ttssf TGSGG what even is your question
I have a 10,12,16 toms is it ok for me to get a little bit more more bigger drum heads
Ttssf TGSGG no you have to get the exact size
Remo clear for me
Anyone know which reso head was used?
Chris Ieremie the clear ambassador that came with the Yamaha drum. It’s the Chinese UT version.
@@giuliocarmassi Thank you Giulio and 7ml I assume?
02:54 03:26
EVANS4LIFE💪🏽 MEINL RULES🤘🏾SONOR & TAMA ROCKS🤙🏾...end of story
JD Robles remo, zildjian, dw🥴
Steeno I don’t blame you. DW’s are great and Zildjian’s live videos are awesome...but MeinL You Tube page and Sonor drums are better🤣much love tho 💪🏿❤️
I'm curious what kind or reso head was used?
Clear ambassador on all examples! Cheers!
4:29 4:43
Remo Coated Ambassador…..
Evans all day
remo UT is not a real clear ambassador
They all sound the same
Remo UT heads are made in china not USA and have crimped edges instead of glued edges ... in otherwords its not a real representation of the remo ambassador.. which means that the clear emperor takes the crown
Yeah i realized that later and now that setup is gone. But i should do a comparison actually of US and China ambassadors, see how different they sound in the end, all things being equal. Maybe I'll do a 16 inch one, so I can bring in all the other heads and not repeat the same video.
Remo uwu
ResTone, (says my Cinema Display speakers at night).
Remo emperor clear or coated. Never the vintage models. You should have used a real clear Ambassador. Wheres the pin stripe?
Ive been playing my pearl soundcheck for three years now and i just went to the drum shop to fix my snare drumhead only to find out ive been playing with “fake” drumheads.
Well i guess thats why my drums always sorta sounded flat🤔
Yah I think I got a fake p3 for my snare once. Unless that drumhead is naturally very thick and has a ton of coating I think it was a dud. So dead and just weird seemed off to me. It broke partially maybe cuz it was a dud or maybe cuz I smack the fuck out if my snare. Either way I used a csx before that and took it off to replace it with the p3 then the p3 broke so I'm back to the csx I've beat the living hell out of it for about a year and a halfe now it's still going strong and I havent let up.
I watched with my eyes closed-and every single company and head sounds 98% the SAME.
The thickness plays a huge part in how much tension you have at the same tuning though!
agree
No they aint the same. They play big part when you play live.
I thought coated emperor coated g2 sounded identical in fact hard to tell huge difference with any of them if he tuned them up a bit they would of had tone and then I imagine a big difference
damn hippies! 😡
LMAO! Heads are way too loose to make any comparison.
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That tom sounds like shit with every single head on it.
I think he did not use good resonant head, or just tuned the drum in the same pitch, however for different head, should be different tuning...
Quite biased. 9 out of 11 Remo Heads... "shootout"....
Yeah well, I don't hear much of a difference between Evans and Remo given the same construction. I will say however that Aquarian heads always sound dull to my ear. I think Evans heads are a little easier to tune up and Remo tends to last a little longer IME. I also don't like Evan's coating, the Remo coating is much more satisfying.
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He didn’t even tune it right🤮
Unpopular opinion: They all sound at least 90% the same, so just buy one that looks nice and use more of your time to learn how to tune. That's what makes the real difference
That tom sounds horrible. Tuned to low. Not a good head comparison.