Fender Player II | Modeling Amps Peaked? | Re-Buying Sold Guitars! - ITB Podcast
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- Welcome back to the intheblues Tone Podcast for July 10, 2024. This will cover the State of TH-cam, Buying guitars you sold, asking if modeling amplifiers have peaked, and more!
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Yours is still head and shoulders above most TH-cam guitar review channels, Shane. It's all down to presentation, your personality, and the content being succinct. Really enjoy your honesty and optimism. Great stuff! 😎🎸👍
Thanks for the kind words, Paul. Many thanks mate!
No Left handed basses is a massive L. Bad enough we get left out of other product lines, but they just couldn't resist gutting the line that actually gave us some options. Really wanted a lefty offset (JM), and a lefty mustang bass. Wouldn't care if they only offered them in the standard black. But nah, Fender just has to shaft us more than usual even though other companies much smaller can somehow make different left hand models.
I think that sometimes people make a change in order to keep themselves motivated to keep playing and practicing. We like trying something new and shiny. I guess the secret is to know what gear you are truly attached to and hang onto it. I like the honest no nonsense approach of this channel. 🎸👍🙂
You've already bought that guitar in your mind, Shane. Just throw down the cash for it before it's gone.
My biggest regrets are not what I sold, but what I didn't buy when I had the chance.
One of which was a PRS SE 277 semi-hollow with the soapbars. I saw a gorgeous one at the guitar shop one day. The most beautiful tight flame maple I've ever seen and the color was perfect. I sat on it for one night, went back to get it the next day and it had sold 10 minutes before I got there. I ended up buying a used one a few months ago, but it's not even close to that one I saw. There's some lucky person out there with it. I should have bought that first one the moment I saw it.
it's such a tiny detail but having rolled edges on the entry level fenders is a great move
I am really bothered by sharp fretboard edges, I’ve tried and not bonded with 3-4 Mexican fenders. I guess I’m cursed by having started out with a well worn heritage from the 80s.
I finally talked myself into a rosewood board so I can roll it myself if I don’t like the feel, and had actually just bought a Jimmy Page mirror tele off reverb the day before the player II series was announced or I’d probably have driven an hour to the guitar stores today to try out a player 2 if they’re in store yet. I can’t wait to get my hands on my new guitar, but I’ll probably still want to try out a player 2 one of these days.
I agree.
You're a safe harbour for lefties. Followed your channel for years now. Keep doing what you do. 👍
Thank you 😀
I think you’re right about modeling. Because what they are trying to do is copy tube amps, they’re at the point where the processing has gotten as perfect as it can get, or very close to it.
Yeah, people can hear the difference, but the difference at this point is really in the physical amplification, not the modeling. It sounds different because it’s coming out of the PA, and not the guitar cab, etc.
The differences going forward are going to be how much stuff you can put in the chain, unit size, and user interface…
I once sold a TS808 to a good friend, but asked to buy ut back from him a year later. Luckily he agreed, and twenty-five years later I still have it. Many more things I've sold then regretted doing so, but was unable to buy back, ir even buy another of the same type. A beautiful Les Paul deluxe, a Vox AC30 STR (head), a Marshall JCM 800 channel switching head with reverb, and an early sixties rosewood neck white strat, which I traded for a Les Paul custom that was in pieces, that once I finished having it rebuilt was disappointing in tone. The list goes on. Most times I sold something in order to buy something else, then found the original item too expensive to replace. Talk about seller's regret!
Mate I just want to reach out and say I love your podcast. No bullshit straight talking info and best of all from an Australian perspective which is so different because of pricing down here. Well done. Keep em coming!
Would love to have an ITB podcast to listen to in the car!
Thanks so much for the support. I uploaded this to iTunes and Spotify, so it should show up if it hasn't already. :)
I'm right there with you I've sold so many guitars and amps over the years and regret almost all of those sales!
The left-hand player 2 series look great until you realise that out of 3 choices of colours 2 are regurgitated colours from the last player series in the white and sunburst and then just one other colour. Waited years for an update and this is all we get unless you've deep pockets. Fender dont care at all for left handed players.
They do it on purpose so you buy the step up
Fender loves money, and if making more LH options led to bigger sales, it would definitely happen.
I'm a right-handed player. But, as a left-handed golfer, I feel your pain.
@Stevethomas i gave up on fender along time ago because they refused to offer us a left-handed strat with humbuckers in it or even a telecaster with double humbuckers in it, for the money I’ll stick to Schecter and Keisel guitars two companies actually care about the left-hand community
@@michaelmetal71 Kissel guitars are amazing, but for that price or less you can get any guitar or bass at the Fender Mod Shop in a left hand model.
What’s crazy is I follow your other TH-cam channel with the tech and cameras and I never knew that you played guitar. It must been me not paying attention. I wanna learn how to play guitar. I’m over here looking for TH-cam channels about which one’s better the Strat or Tele and you pop up.🤷🏾♂️
it's good to hear you again, at least you can actually play!
thanks, man!
There was a guy back in the 60s that took a right hander and just flipped the strings on it and played it as a lefty. He did a fair job with it.
I’m pretty new to your channel Shane but I love the honest positivity and it feels fresh to me. So, great work.
Thank for your support and for also being a member. 🙏😊
I sold a a Boss Katana mk2 100 and shortly thereafter I realized how much I liked the sounds. It is just so versatile. So I bought another. Wasn’t a too expensive mistake.
We watch you for your personality and your take. Doesn't matter to me if others do similar they arent you.
Your programs are always fresh. Much appreciated.
Just played a player II tele in guitar center and the neck felt amazing, really suprised. It was in tune and string spacing felt great
Life is about finding out what you DON’T want. Intelligent people know this, and move on when they see it. The fact that your channel has evolved so much over the years confirms you’re following a real purpose, which is all about enjoying what you’re doing rather than doing something to make money…a half life.
Re that 2nd hand strat from the US. Just go with the biggest inner YES…and it seems you know what that yes is. Your content has improved a lot over the years Shane…keep up the good work!
Shane, interesting discussion. I only wish that I could buy back or get back some of the gear that I sold at one time or another. As I got older I have not been as quick to let things go so fast. If only we had the way back machine 🤓
All the best!
CC
Hi Shane, please keep positive, and understand that we love your video's. You have some of the best content, and your reviews, I trust 100%. Thanks for what you do :)
I had an Ibanez PL1770 bronze but unfortunately it was at a friends place that got burgled. this was back in the mid 90's. I never really got over it.
I agree. TH-cam is getting pretty watered down this last year. I think your hard-core followers are still gonna tune in for the angle you take on budget gear. The reality is, that most of us live in a budget friendly world. We appreciate the realistic approach you have. Watching kids demo guitars they can't possibly afford, won't EVER change what real players want. Real players mostly just want function over form. If it's great to play, feel and tone wise. That should be paramount.
Recently bought my first 6pt. full floating tremelo equipped guitar. Has a skinny neck and everything! NF3. It's a very well spec'd and constructed guitar. Definitely trying some new stuff.
Only guitar I can think of that I'd buy another after selling. SG Modern. Now I have a Revstar. End of story.
i sold a number of guitars and basses due to a serious shoulder injury. i thought i would never play again so, got good prices for them. Five years later, I’m playing again. Wish I had a couple of those basses and three of those guitars back.
Fender Player II series offset guitar offerings are really good upgrades, with minimal to zero mods needed, at an attractive price point
I enjoy your channel for your perspective as a fellow lefty and to see what's going on in your neck of the woods. Gear is gear but the personality is why I subscribe to TH-cam Channels.
Oh man, there’s three guitars out their in the world that I wish I never sold. I still ended up with a rig I love but I know somewhere out there is a Tele Delux that was perfect for me. I didn’t appreciate it at the time
Followed your channel since the beginning. GSS are my very favourite videos. 😊😊 Always tune in for the latest info.
Great pod cast Shane.. interesting to hear how your tastes have changed. Been following you for a while and been playing even longer, I know what you mean about thin necks thick necks and wanting everything the same to eventually not caring and just seeing how the guitar makes you feel and therefore play. Same here … keep them coming!
Cool video. Interesting topics as I traded away my HXStomp but regret it and now looking at buying another one. I liked the Stomp interface and it does what I want for a still decent enough price.
Great video and one of my eternal dilemma's. 5 years ago I bought a Fender American Original 60's Telecaster. Loved the sound of the guitar but the nut was badly cut so I sent it back and brought a Les Paul. I've fretted over that decision for all 5 of those years. Just given way and ordered a mint model in Lake Placid Blue. I feel at peace.!
I ordered the Player 2 lefty white tele as my first electric guitar. Looking forward to getting it in October. :D
Can’t speak for the lefties, but the righty Pro ii is the only strat I truly love playing after many many fails.
Yep there are so many guitar review channels now, heaps of click-bait too. I think most guitarists can relate to you, which is a point of difference.
Good show. Will look for you on the podcast.
Thinking about the guitar that you might re-buy: I think you mentioned that this was your first guitar, and this rang a bell with me: could this just be a case of nostalgia, and perhaps curiosity? I went through a similar thing. Early in my playing career I had a Gibson S1 (some say Marauder), and I remember liking it but wanting something better: eventually I sold it. A while back, some 50 yrs later, I started thinking that I wanted to get one again, partly to see how good it was. It's hard to find one under £1500, so I decided to forget about it: apparently they only made 8000.
You’re a great guitar player Shane. I love listening to you play and I’m always curious about how you get the tones you do. Maybe you could show us how to find the spot on certain amplifiers how to tweak the guitar in the amplifier to get more tonalities out of them.
Great content… thanks Shane
I have purchased a Brand New Martin HD-28, sold it, purchased another Brand New Martin HD-28 and sold it... purchased another Brand New Martin HD-28. but this last one I still have. Rinse and repeat purchases, lol, since I started playing in 1979!!
I can't believe just how long I've watched, vox ac15 ......blues junior.
Get a vox ac15 again, I love them. Went from a 30 to a 15 twin and finally a modded AC15CC1.
Best wishes from the Midlands UK ❤
I've bought the same guitars over and over. I'll get tired of one, sell it, then later miss it and buy a new one. I've probably had 6 Epiphone Broadways in 20 years. And have lost count of the telecasters.
Have enjoyed all you do.. keep it up please.. You are the reason I bought a guitar.
I remember that strat! It's the one that introduced me to the Zexcoil pickups, which I have in two axes. One of which has sadly just sold, but a man must do what he must do sometimes hahaha
Shane Bro, just an idea with all the cost of living crisis going on, especially here in Australia with, inflation, gear is getting more expensive, In my opinion you should definitely continue best bang for buck gear series, guitars, amps, general gear etc .Shootouts are always popular too. imho🤔. Help us save some dough bro.. 🤑
The player 2 Mustang
w/o trem would be great with medium flats. Jim Campilongo uses a duo sonic and seems to have fun burning up that short scale. Thanks for the reviews!
Yeah, back in the day we didn't have 900 choices of decent affordable instruments. We played what we could find/afford. That has allowed me to not much care about neck shape, fret count, pickup config ... and so on.
At this point it's more about wether I connect with the essence of the guitar.
Fender, in 2016 moved all their manufacturing equipment from the Corona plant to Ensenada and got all new machines. That's why the Pro and elite lines were terrible and the MIMs improved. 8 years later both sites have finally learned how to use their machines. Thus the Ultra Luxe and Player II.
Fender if you are listening, none of the offsets in the Player II lines are left-handed! THE ONLY NEW non-US OFFSET FENDER IN LEFT-HANDED IS THE JAG-STANG. just wtf, can we get some other guitars besides teles and strats? What about all those Jags and Mustangs Kurt Cobain used to play? Letting us Lefties down
I think what draws me to your channel is you don't seem like a gear/brand snob and your reviews seem to be legit and because of that your content is some of the best.
Hey, Shane! About the modeleres, I agree with you. Sound wise I think that most sound almost the same. The IRs in the units make the difference, and if they have an IR loader and you use it with your own IRs they may sound the exact same.
I think it comes down to the options the unit provides in terms of I/O, software features (like snapshots in Line 6 land), the effects you want, and how complex you want your signal chains. But not on the sound of the unit, IMO. The models the companies capture usually vary a bit in EQ sensitivity and gain structure. But, tbh, you can really make them sound the same by tweaking the knobs 🤷🏽♂️
Glad to see you here, again!
They are also releasing weight relief chambered models in September according to Andertons which interests me greatly.
As a lefty I imagine it would be more difficult to sell a nice guitar. I’d go for the 50th anniversary strat if I was you😊
You are my favorite reviewer. Thanks.
I sold my 50th anniversary Strat last year for all the same reasons you sold yours. That was my holy grail guitar and I would buy one again
Some of the gear I've sold was because I needed money, and other times it was because i wasn't as happy with some guitars as others I had. The ones that I've had the most of were several Mexican Standard Strats, several Squier CV 60s Strats (I currently have a CV 70s one loaded with PV65 pickups), several MIJ Fernandes LE2 60s reissues, a few used Am Std Strats, and 3 Peavey Classic 30 amps.
Return of rosewood is welcomed with player but never understood people buying these new, for same price of a new mim player you can get a second hand American standard.
Bought a TS-9, had for 7 years or so, sold it, 2 years later bought another one, sold it withing 6 months and a Digitech chorus the same thing.
Great channel on gear review always informative with some awesome playing 👍🇺🇸🙏
There is more of the Player series coming out later in the year including more left hand models and chambered mahogany bodies. Saw in on Andertons channel.
As our experience evolves, we can better appreciate the qualities that we desire that might not have been evident to us duing a more chaotic time. So, I say buy the Strat!
Modeling has peaked IMHO. Once Line 6 Helix came out.... The modelers got good enough to no longer sound different then amps.. They're pretty spot on. In fact.. I bet most people can't tell the difference when listening to the playback.
Once a thing is functionally in place.. And works and sounds good... What to make it better?
You know what Ive noticed.. Sometimes gear sits because I just don't know how to use it right.
Case and point Im now finally good enough to play past the 12th fret. Once that happened... I realized many of my guitars weren't even intonated. So now there's guitars I thought I hated but were just not setup.
I do agree. Modeling has come a long way.
I used a POD XT for years and thought it was great until I plugged back into a tube amp and realized how flat and digital that POD XT sounded. I stayed away from modelers for years after that. But, after hearing the latest in modelers, it's audibly impossuble for an audience to tell the difference.
However... As a player, I still get a better feel and vibe from tube amps and their natural characteristics such as sag (compression) and natural overdrive at higher volumes that I still don't get from modelers.
Would I tour with a modeler? Absolutely. But, when I'm the player and the only audience member in the room, I'll take a tube amp any day.
@@BluesDeville I have a Fender Hotrod Deluxe 60w tube. Honestly it's the standard for me and that amp isn't going anywhere.
Basically I take my Line 6 Helix and make it sound as close as possible to my one tube amp. I like Tubes too.
Not sure if it's because Im comforted by them or they actually sound better.
I guess what keeps me on line 6.. Is Im paranoid of blowing a tube and loosing my sound. Rember 2020 or some time around there when tubes were almost impossible to find? That freaked me out a bit. So I went looking for an acceptable solid state.. Just incase.
Ill admit that I consider Line 6 Helix an acceptable substitute for an Amp... But I agree that tubes seem to have a certain dynamics to them. I also like how tubes clean up when you turn your guitar volume down. Line 6 isn't as smooth in its dynamics..
Now strength of Line 6 is it's reliable. It's always going to sound the same.
Ive had days that my tube amp sounded so good it was outrageous... For whatever reason.. but I wasn't able to reproduce it.
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Agreed on all of your points. I will eventually buy another modeler for the reasons you stated to have one.
Also... Those days where your tube amps sounds amazing and other days not so much. I have those days, too. It's kind of those dynamics that I love about tube amps. Same reason I like germanium fuzzes. Their dynamics can change and my playing vibe kind of changes with them.
Other channels will do too many straight reviews and they review everything. The best practice, I think is to do follow ups and comparisons, reviewing products people ask about or suit you... you do all these things and more. Stands out above the noise. Anyway I'm thinking I might try to get s player Jaguar while they're cheaper now used. The player ii feels like a step up, but the previous iteration is a real good used value the past couple years
Sold my big babel Taylor when I bought my 214c, re purchase it 1 year later... then sold it again as I never used it
What you call a PJ bass is actually a short scale Mustang bass with the PJ pickup layout. And a big fail for not mentioning the chambered ash and mahogany bodied Strats and Teles.
I saw the “upgrades” in features for the new Player II. Not feeling it other than colors. Now bring in locking tuners, roasted maple necks, and stainless steel frets….. then you’ll have a real upgrade.
That Birch green players 2 strat with rosewood, man it looks so nice. If I didn't have already a great players plus top tobacco burst with pau ferro I would buy it in a heartbeat
I have a Marshall DSL20CR right now I am trying to sell, it is just too loud for my home. I had a Marshall MG30GFX awhile back and sold it but "don't hate me" I am thinking about getting the Marshall MG50GFX because of the effects loop it has. We'll see. Great video Shane.
It may be worth revisiting the Fender TMP.... The upgraded software seems to have made the unit much better from the reviews I have seen, however, I haven't used the unit myself, so I'm just going on other peoples opinions.
Most of us are chasing sounds that are 60 years old. And theres still room for improvement in modelling. Quite crazy isnt it!
Shout Out from Florida Shane ✝️👍🤙✌️
I say right away - past me. This whole series has vintage tuners, which I really don't like. Which is what I wrote about in the official Facebook group.
One of the best channels on TH-cam!!! Hands down!!
And hello from Houston, TX
Thanks, Glen!
Fender Player 2s are nice guitars! Then again, I bought a MIM standard Fat Strat from a guy in a band called Green Ripper for $400. As far as recycling gear, well, I had an Ibanez RG470 MIK I sold. Always wanted another RG. Eventually added an RG-something with a Aqua Blue sparkle finish and Double-Locking trem. And I also added an RG with a Dragon-Eye stained flame maple arch top and a fixed bridge. Both amazing instruments and super sweet. Feel more like an upgrade than a replacement. That old MIK RG I had was beat up. These are almost new condition.
WHY DIDN'T FENDER INCLUDE BASSES FOR THE LEFTIES?!
We miss the podcast Shane!
I don't see the Strat Player II lefty in black anywhere! was the screenshot taken from the Australian Fender site?
Bought and returned/sold the EP Booster pedal 3 times, the MXR Micro Amp pedal twice, the original Fender Player guitar 4 times, the Monoprice/Harley Benton Stage Right 5- and 15-watt amps twice... Yeah, I agree that I don't care about neck shape as much anymore, or about modding guitars.
What do you think about the chambered body options? I’m looking forward to those
I have a deluxe strat from 2003 with the noiseless pickups. I think they sound good. Eventually I might change them out for real single coils but they’re completely fine for now
I only have 1 ding against my Tone Master Deluxe Reverb, the looper pedal. It only pushes the drums at full "22wtt" version. It doesn't attenuate
Great stuff Shane I’ve always been a fan ..I just got an Eastman t486 and am very impressed with it will you take a look at them please ? Your the best 👌👍
I don't buy things that were sold UNLESS the thing was sold because I needed money. Then it would be OK to do so.
I still don't like digital IR sounds with one exception so far. The new UA pedals that sound like amps are really great on internet videos. I would like to try one in person. Yet for the same or less money, the Simplifier X amp pedal has two analog preamp channels that sound great.
In the video you said that if a guitar feels great to play it is good. You also said that you had other guitars that sounded better. Certainly you've got guitars at home now that feel great to play and sound good. So why do you feel that you need another one? I don't know how many guitars you have now, but I'm sure it's more than three.
I've never seen you more complimentary to an amp that you were testing than the Joyo Sweet Baby. You have praised the Peavey Bandit many times too, but not with the same enthusiasm of the Sweet Baby. I suppose you didn't keep it. If I ever live in a place where I can play loud, I'll be getting a Sweet Baby amp. For now I play using headphones or no amp at all.
Player Two is a nice comeback, rosewood boards should always be available…
I would say modelers are probably going in the direction of Impulse Response amps and FX…. Taking that same concept of creating speaker can IR’s, I believe that’s the only way forward
yes, I agree with the spread sheet idea but there is one item that I will NEVER purchase again because I have had many and always hoped I would change my mind but I am absolutely done with ANY stratocaster guitar regardless of any mods.
I hope they put proper lefty pots in the player2s
Fender are usually pretty good with that these days, did you find them reverse wound or was the taper wrong?
Shane has a great question - if it’s just acting in a reverse manner, that is an easy fix. You could swap the outer 2 lugs and the pot will work in the correct manner
@@intheblues My experience. The player, player + American Original and the Vintage II have righty pots wired backwards so the rotation is correct but the taper is at the wrong end. The Pro 2 has proper lefty (reverse taper) pots.
I’ve sold and repurchased too much gear to count. Not the exact item, but same make and model. Two that come to mind are Peavey Classic 30 amp and Road Worn Telecaster.
Fender MIM guitars are awesome playing and sounding. My issues w them is they’ve gone up in price a lot, and they are heavy.
that’s fine that Fender offers a lefty strat and tele in the player series 2 BUT they don’t give us either one with humbuckers only single coils i’d love to have a tele with 2 humbuckers guess i’ll have to get one from either schecter or kiesel if i want a tele HH
Oh that blue on a jazzmaster now it’s time for a new guitar
Grab the guitar. It’s calling you for a reason. Worst case scenario, you sell it again for the last time (maybe 😂).
Love the show. Keep up the great work.
Dig your channel man !
Last year I was in the market for a Telecaster and after comparing the Player and Player Plus series I purchased the Player Plus largely because of the significant upgrades that It had over the standard player series. I can't understand why Fender would now release a new guitar (in an over crowded market) that appears to be a mediocre upgrade to the original Player series when to me, the Player Plus WAS the upgrade. Your thoughts please.
Always enjoyed your videos, I still don't get the huge mics though that seem to make it a 'podcast'.
For me, it's to help block out the noise of the traffic outside.
I bought a headrush recently, and I have a mesa boogie combo. Looking to sell the combo now, because maintenance on MB is kind of a nightmare.edit: wrt player series II, wish they had a medium or short scale with humbuckers. Feels like a missed opportunity
If you really want the strat like you seem to…just get it! Worst case scenario and it doesn’t bring you the joy expected…sell it. I feel that it will satisfy and if it passes you by it will be a regret. Life is too short to not go for it.
Feels like a big middle finger from Fender to those of us who payed extra for these features on the US or Vintera Il lines. As an owner of both, l'm not too thrilled at Fender for offering the same features after the fact for a fraction of the price.
Can you try get your hands on the new levinson guitars, been seeing them everywhere, they look good
Installed vintage tuners, vintage bridge, and rolled my edges all by myself since I bought the original player years ago… smh