The "Bulge" on the back side of the stakes we refer to it (here in the States anyway) as Mushrooming. Happens on Chisels, star drill bits, or any type of tools that take an impact from hammers or what have you.
Could you please make a video on watchmaking lathes? Im a amateur watchmaker and will need to buy my first lathe soon. Would be very helpfull to know some things to look out for.
There may be many many staking tools but there is only one Kalle Slaap who is so wonderful, has vast experience and helps us a lot with his videos. Thank you Kalle. Much love to you from India.
For myself I bought a vintage set online, from C&E Marshall. That meant I didn't have an opportunity to personally inspect it before I bought it, but I lucked out and most of the stakes appear to be in good condition. In my experience, it's the stakes that are hardest to come by. You can find lots of inexpensive staking tools online, and often they even come with the boxes. But so often there will be no stakes! Not terribly useful, that. Thank you for sharing the story of that last set. What a tale.
It's interesting that there are so many configurations of one tool type. I need to buy a good eye loupe w/wire, any suggestions that wont break the bank ?
That was interesting to see all the different sets. I bought my old tiny little set on eBay as I didn’t want a Chinese set. It served me well and still does. I initially bought it before I owned a hand press. So I used the stakes to fit hands back to watches. I learnt in this video what some of the stakes are for, as I have never had to use some of them, and I’ve been learning as I go. Self taught of course but wit the aid of this channel, books, and online courses. Sadly, my hunt for an apprenticeship here is to no avail. The working watchmakers tell me to go away. The retired ones tell me there’s no future in it. The older ones have dementia. So videos like this make a huge impact. The story of the physics teacher was heartbreaking. I never thought I’d tear up and begin to cry in one of your videos. But there you have it.
Thank you Kalle. I bought a Chinese Bergeon copy. It was a piece of rubbish. The stakes were not hardened and deformed the first time I used them, very disappointing. I did complain and eventually got a refund and bought a vintage C.V.SALVO model (with a 1945 date stamp on the box). A very useful tool in lovely condition. I look forward to your next stream. Cheers.
I always thoroughly enjoy your videos. You are such a tremendous authority on watch making. I hope on day you will do a video on watchmaker lathes. I just purchased a Chinese one and so far so good.
By the way, i have a Favorit tool too, i bought it at "Rikketik" before i knew what i could actually do with it, but i knew that i would need one in the future.. 3 months after that i had a batch of secondhands to rivet to their hubs.. Favorit to the Rescue!.. i can't do without it now..
It's pity that usually it could be bought only online therefore you can't check most of suggested properties. Only hope that photo on ebay is good enough. But I bought 3 staking sets for a good price and all of them are fine :)
I have inherited my father's small Favourite steaking set. I just need to learn how to use it now. I have a vintage pre-shock protection Oris that needs a new balance staff and the part to fit. One day when I'm feeling brave I'll give it a try.
Great stuff. On some very old watches (square shape) the case back doesn't snap perfectly onto the case, there is a tiny space even after squeezing tight. How do address this and could you possibly do a video on this? Thanks.
The Boley set usually comes with an additional disc that can be used on the base part just as a simple riveting block. However does anybody know if there is a particular purpose for the inner, brass-couloured part of that disc (it has holes in it too)?
Kalle I got three staking sets my favorite a 1930s Boley Complete very handy 2. a Swiss star very old and small set handy on old lady's watches #3 K&N large set with jeweling option seldom used too many options and large. I agree about using an oiler to check for plugged damaged two or thee staffs before learning that tip 😒
I ve bougth two staking sets in my life, first one was a big mistake, cheap but old and unuseful , second one whas a complete boley set, with two parts and a complete set of staking, It whas the best buy Ive done in horology, because in this second time I knew what i need and the tips for buy one.
Do the holes in the base plate always have the same size between the various models? If so, what are the sizes? I cannot find any reference in my staking set
Really great advice here. I wish I had this a few months ago when I bought a used staking set. Now I'll be able to check mine to see if it's any good. Fingers crossed :) Thank yo ufor another great video!
Hallo Kalle. I always use a brass hammer when staking. I don't think you ever need the force of a steel hammer on such a delicate tool.Your thoughts please
Archie Perkins in his 'Antique Watch Restoration' books advises to use a brass hammer. This makes sense as it stops the top of the stake from mushrooming (burring) over. An iron hammer will always do this to a stake.
hi, i been repair my vintage longines quarts watch and damage the coil, reparing wasnt an option any more and i decide to rewind it with my own. wuala - watch is working, for a week there no problem but i dont have timegrapher for propper testing. how diy coil may affect timing or battery life? should i looking for brand new coil? is it ok wearing watch with diy coil? l976.2 thanks
Another great video! Is there a difference between US staking sets versus Swiss sets in the various sizes of the stakes? In other words, do you specifically need a US made one to work on American pocket watches?
I like the Bergeron because it was my first and I am so used to it and i use the small Favourite set for all odd jobs. Nothing wrong with Boley or other brands though.
The "Bulge" on the back side of the stakes we refer to it (here in the States anyway) as Mushrooming. Happens on Chisels, star drill bits, or any type of tools that take an impact from hammers or what have you.
Kalle, at the risk of repeating: you’re a cool guy! Thanks for all that knowledge transfer!
Could you please make a video on watchmaking lathes? Im a amateur watchmaker and will need to buy my first lathe soon. Would be very helpfull to know some things to look out for.
If you live in the US, buy a sherline.
Thanks for the tip on how to remove the broken part from the stake!
On the interwebs there's a guide by K&D on how to use all the different types.
Next time i drop by, i want to see this Tool made by Mr Willemsen! such a nice piece..
There may be many many staking tools but there is only one Kalle Slaap who is so wonderful, has vast experience and helps us a lot with his videos. Thank you Kalle. Much love to you from India.
For myself I bought a vintage set online, from C&E Marshall. That meant I didn't have an opportunity to personally inspect it before I bought it, but I lucked out and most of the stakes appear to be in good condition. In my experience, it's the stakes that are hardest to come by. You can find lots of inexpensive staking tools online, and often they even come with the boxes. But so often there will be no stakes! Not terribly useful, that.
Thank you for sharing the story of that last set. What a tale.
It's interesting that there are so many configurations of one tool type.
I need to buy a good eye loupe w/wire, any suggestions that wont break the bank ?
That was interesting to see all the different sets. I bought my old tiny little set on eBay as I didn’t want a Chinese set. It served me well and still does. I initially bought it before I owned a hand press. So I used the stakes to fit hands back to watches. I learnt in this video what some of the stakes are for, as I have never had to use some of them, and I’ve been learning as I go. Self taught of course but wit the aid of this channel, books, and online courses. Sadly, my hunt for an apprenticeship here is to no avail. The working watchmakers tell me to go away. The retired ones tell me there’s no future in it. The older ones have dementia. So videos like this make a huge impact.
The story of the physics teacher was heartbreaking. I never thought I’d tear up and begin to cry in one of your videos. But there you have it.
Top content coming thick and fast! Incredible! Well done
I’d love to see a video on how fit a brass bushing, or upgrading an barrel arbor hole to a jewel.
Haha. Iv been struggling to pull my stakes out with my fingers. Now I know what the grabber is for. Xx
Thank you Kalle. I bought a Chinese Bergeon copy. It was a piece of rubbish. The stakes were not hardened and deformed the first time I used them, very disappointing. I did complain and eventually got a refund and bought a vintage C.V.SALVO model (with a 1945 date stamp on the box). A very useful tool in lovely condition. I look forward to your next stream. Cheers.
I always thoroughly enjoy your videos. You are such a tremendous authority on watch making. I hope on day you will do a video on watchmaker lathes. I just purchased a Chinese one and so far so good.
By the way, i have a Favorit tool too, i bought it at "Rikketik" before i knew what i could actually do with it, but i knew that i would need one in the future.. 3 months after that i had a batch of secondhands to rivet to their hubs.. Favorit to the Rescue!.. i can't do without it now..
It's pity that usually it could be bought only online therefore you can't check most of suggested properties. Only hope that photo on ebay is good enough. But I bought 3 staking sets for a good price and all of them are fine :)
What is the purpose of the stake with a wide black plastic disc?
I have inherited my father's small Favourite steaking set. I just need to learn how to use it now. I have a vintage pre-shock protection Oris that needs a new balance staff and the part to fit. One day when I'm feeling brave I'll give it a try.
Great stuff. On some very old watches (square shape) the case back doesn't snap perfectly onto the case, there is a tiny space even after squeezing tight. How do address this and could you possibly do a video on this? Thanks.
I love my 120-piece Lampert & Sons F. R. Inverting staking set. It has come in handy for a lot of stuff other than just watchmaking.
Another excellent video, full of information for us beginners. Cheers Kalle!
Great videos Kalle 😊
Staking under a microscope, i.e turning the stake 90° is an art that has been worth learning.
Another wonderful video. Thanks.
The Boley set usually comes with an additional disc that can be used on the base part just as a simple riveting block. However does anybody know if there is a particular purpose for the inner, brass-couloured part of that disc (it has holes in it too)?
Thanks Kalle, My first and most used watchmaker tool.
Kalle I got three staking sets my favorite a 1930s Boley Complete very handy 2. a Swiss star very old and small set handy on old lady's watches #3 K&N large set with jeweling option seldom used too many options and large. I agree about using an oiler to check for plugged damaged two or thee staffs before learning that tip 😒
Thank you. Once again 'Kalle the Oracle'. So interesting and informative.
Great video. Thanks👍👍
I ve bougth two staking sets in my life, first one was a big mistake, cheap but old and unuseful , second one whas a complete boley set, with two parts and a complete set of staking, It whas the best buy Ive done in horology, because in this second time I knew what i need and the tips for buy one.
Do the holes in the base plate always have the same size between the various models? If so, what are the sizes? I cannot find any reference in my staking set
thank-you, that was great!!
Hi sir I need such a tool kit, how can I get it?
thank you
More lovely advice and vintage stories. Thanks for that 😊
Great Vid
Really great advice here. I wish I had this a few months ago when I bought a used staking set. Now I'll be able to check mine to see if it's any good. Fingers crossed :) Thank yo ufor another great video!
very good video kalle thanks
Thank you Kalle
Hallo Kalle. I always use a brass hammer when staking. I don't think you ever need the force of a steel hammer on such a delicate tool.Your thoughts please
Archie Perkins in his 'Antique Watch Restoration' books advises to use a brass hammer. This makes sense as it stops the top of the stake from mushrooming (burring) over. An iron hammer will always do this to a stake.
Great video - as usual! What are your thoughts on the Chinese knock-offs from AliExpress?
hi, i been repair my vintage longines quarts watch and damage the coil, reparing wasnt an option any more and i decide to rewind it with my own. wuala - watch is working, for a week there no problem but i dont have timegrapher for propper testing. how diy coil may affect timing or battery life? should i looking for brand new coil? is it ok wearing watch with diy coil?
l976.2
thanks
Thank you kalle. Another great video
Hello, there is a way to know the manufacturing date of a Bergeon staking tool? Thank you very much for your videos.
Not really, they have been produced virtually unchanged for many, many decades. Sorry I cannot help you.
@ChronoglideWatchmaking Thank you for the answer, you are very kind. You have a great channel.
Greetings from Spain
Another great video! Is there a difference between US staking sets versus Swiss sets in the various sizes of the stakes? In other words, do you specifically need a US made one to work on American pocket watches?
Are the stakes interchangeable with other makes?
Hardly interchangeable I’m afraid
Which one do you enjoy using the most?
I like the Bergeron because it was my first and I am so used to it and i use the small Favourite set for all odd jobs. Nothing wrong with Boley or other brands though.
what is it for?
Repairing, adjusting and riveting parts mostly Matthew.
You can't hammer time without it.
At least no what to look for
Ball bearing
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Excellent! Thank you!