DIY Carbon Pannier Rack for less than €40 & 160g
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 พ.ค. 2024
- I made a Carbon Pannier Rack for a fraction of the cost of a Tailfin.
Feel free to ask me questions, Comments help spread the love!
Bellow are all the parts you need. I'd be very grateful if you could use the affiliate links, as it really supports the channel.
Some affiliate links:
M6 Stainless Steel Ring Bolt
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M6 Aluminum Flat Head Blind Rivet Nut
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Mountain Bike Rear Rack Adapter
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3K Pure Carbon Fiber Tube 50mm x 11mm OD x 9mm ID
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I’d love to see a more detailed instructional video on how to do this.
I have lots of bike race promo films to make in the next few months, but if this one goes well, maybe I'll revisit it, slow it down and add commentary.
You should first make a prototype maybe out of wood. If you go that far making the carbon fiber version isn't much more involved. It's basically cutting and gluing. The most important and expensive step when making custom things is the blue print and research and and development focus on that and the rest is easy. That's why the Chinese brands are taking over they skipped the hardest most expensive part
Yes please!
Here you go, th-cam.com/video/sLK4O2Unjhk/w-d-xo.html
rofl might not be for u then 🤣🤣🤣🤣
What an intro! Shots fired 👀 Genuinely impressive! Kudos! Nick
I'm only jealous, I spent all my pennies on the bike. Nothing left for luxury accoutrement.
@@SladeTakalaLamey they do say that necessity is the mother of all invention! 😂
TH-cam kept recommending me this video. I decided to cave in and watch. Worth it!
I've been waiting years to be on the right side of the algorithm. It's been a long time coming.
That triangle of Light/Cheap/Strong still exists - for the masses.
You broke it , because you had the combination of skill/knowledge/time/dedication.
Kudos! + this is one *sick* video !
A long-term test update would be great, as well as a rough terrain test. So far looks very impressive!
You won't have to wait that long, I have many miles planned this summer.
This sparked the thought---"Would aluminum tent poles work?" They're cheaper, lighter weight, come in tons of colors, are reasonably rigid, would be easier to work with, and there are some stock fittings that could be repurposed for something like this.
It's quite possible! They'd be easy to work with but not quite as rigid as carbon fiber.
Really appreciate how well you conveyed all the important points in a fun 2min video. Thanks for taking the time to edit that. I don't always have time for the 20+ min versions of this most tinkerers would start with.
i would reinforce the connection of the carbon tubes withe carbon rovings.
Great video. Straight to the point. I am now subscribed
cracking idea I may have to replicate this thanks of the idea, oh and brilliant tune, that I've not heard in ages, SL2 on a raga tip!
Great idea and execution. I need to see more details of this masterpiece. Both the rack and the bag.
Here you go, th-cam.com/video/sLK4O2Unjhk/w-d-xo.html
Very cool! I actually just recently bought those carbon tubes to build my own version. Very interesting seeing how you used them!
Ive done something similar. I used drone frame tube connectors to link the the crosstubes.
I didn't know they existed until now. Thanks brother, I really appreciate it.
As someone from the Caribbean, I appreciate this this video👍👍
Not gonna lie, this is the reason why I love youtube! Such a great video! I love it!!! Cheers from Germany my guy :)
The clipping mechanics for the bag is incredible. I have been thinking a lot about how to attach my frame bag easier and I'm definitely going to keep this in mind!
They are Lazer cut plywood, painted and varnished.
I'd like to see a how to on the bags.
@@Cobwobbler it's coming, I've been hesitant because I make it up as I go along so the filming process is much less considered. I may have to do a retrospective commentary video instead.
@@SladeTakalaLamey No worries, I've got so much video to edit myself. Sometimes I just end up rushing and turning out stuff I take down after a month. Subscribed anyway so I'll keep an eye out for the bag. 👍
Cracking! Having just acquired a Cannondale Slate for new adventures, I'm on a steep upgrade path my wallet can't handle 😂
The plan is to eventually bike pack, so I'm watching your channel with interest!
We two are on the same path! I'm just further down it.
Lovely idea!!
Well done! Nice ideas and execution.
One of the few vids which left me wishing to see more rather than wishing to get on with it.
I love what you did there ! ❤
Nice! looks great. Well done!
So quick video and so cool, love that !
This is a cool setup!
Amazing!!!
This is awesome.
Nicely done 👍. You got some skills there.
Brilliant 😂👍Love the bag. Subscribed as curious to see where this goes. 👍
This is literally sick. 160g vs typical 700g. That's impressive, and the cost of mod is just the cherry on top.
Very cool pacing, and banger song!!
Cool project in general though :D
Awesome!
Super, je l'avais en tête, mais je ne savais pas comment faire. Merci 👊
💥Fantastic 💥
Yes! 2 min of fun!
Thank u I'll make my own one
Some details for you, th-cam.com/video/sLK4O2Unjhk/w-d-xo.html
This is great! Great job. I would watch the 10 minute version of this
It's on its way!
Here you go, th-cam.com/video/sLK4O2Unjhk/w-d-xo.html
impressive work, really liked the aero bag too. For a recent trip I used a motorcycle aero backpack atop a conventional rear rack and it didn't seem to slow me down
Propper mint! 😊
Wow this is awesome, I think I'll have a go at making one myself seeing how simple it really is. Thanks for the inspiration!
Absolute pleasure.
I think this is a giveaway on how long this carrier will last unfortunately.
@@knalliebar I already have some ideas in mind to strengthen certain areas. Could probably make 5 prototypes and test them for the cost of a carbon tailfin rack anyways.
Impressive
Impressive!
Thanks very much!
Nicely build, i would guess the bolt connection Points are the weakest spot. After finding the right angles you could wrap around the spots with rovings.
I think the weak point is the tensile strength of the epoxy at the change in material. They will be fine under compression, but I'm concerned they may pull out after a few 1000k of vibration.
saved in three playlists. you're such a blessing slade
Thanks very much.
Entertaining, straight to the point, innovative, and short...... the perfect TH-cam recipe👍 Great rack too, do you think the top braces will hold out?
I have pulled as hard as I can and they didn't pop out. I am sure in 1000k they might disappoint me after a season of vibration (in the middle of nowhere). Watch this space...
@@SladeTakalaLamey I suspect any rack has the potential to disappoint after 1000k! Just watched your Insta360 vid, most enjoyable. Maybe I'll buy one some day.
@@ribblevalleycyclist it's particularly good for cycling. Here's a tour almost completely shot on it! th-cam.com/video/JRsD3BxcRFU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IpQfl_dIyM32UJ_S
@@SladeTakalaLamey Thank you for that, I’ll go watch it. I do wonder if my channel would benefit from it, as I don’t do that much on the bike…… Knowing me, I’ll probably buy one though!!!!
@@ribblevalleycyclistsubbed anyway, I'll take a look tonight. Are you affilliated with Ribble or do you just share a valley?
i prefer the tailfin but honestly this is a perfectly good and nice solution too, well made :) love that you even anodized the bolts on the gas stove haha. note: might want to indicate that the quality and type of epoxy matters immensely for these things. now .. wheres that subscribe button.. ah.. found it.
Inspires me to make a panier rack like this too.. it is stronger and lighter than what you can buy indeed and not all that difficult to make.
the bag is the best part. Aero bags are good. They are a thing. I used "Tailwind" panniers and they worked very well.
Subbed, great content
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Thanks very much
I'm subscribed
YUUUUUUUUUUUS !!!!!
Great intro and videography - a real shootdown of Keith Bontrager's Maxim [light/cheap/strong etc].
I think I'll try building one as well.
Sidenote: - cutting carbon fibre is a potentially hazardous pastime. As one who is missing a bit of lung from asbestos related disease, attributed to too much time spent decades ago in an Air Force cockpit, take plenty of precautions.
I love your bags! My old and somewhat sketchy aerodynamic theory comes to mind: For the rear, you'd need an inordinately long bag shaped to reattach laminar airflow, or Kamm tail to create a turbulent 'bubble'. For a front mounted bag, it is of course feasible. I'd steer away [pun intended] handlebar bags as both the centre of gravity and centre of aerodynamic pressure[s] would be well forward creating handling difficulties - especially in a crosswind.
agreed with other commenters, i want a how to build version. subscribed to see more!
Here you go, th-cam.com/video/sLK4O2Unjhk/w-d-xo.html
Seriously cool! Would love to see a video explaining the steps involved 🙏
Here you go, th-cam.com/video/sLK4O2Unjhk/w-d-xo.html
Bad ass!
I'm interested in the bag and the aerobar setup in the front.
Yup, that gets a sub and like.
killa 👍👍👍🤙
That, good sir, was well too many thought-through gimmicks on just one bike. I smashed the like button at once!
I'm all over this, i was going to do a similar job will some Ali rod but this carbon is next level. I might try one in bamboo, nothing fancy, just from the garden centre.
You're the second person to mention bamboo. It's a great idea if you can get the a consistent ID to stick to the bolts.
@@SladeTakalaLamey Yes, I was thinking of selecting some that's grown in a bit and drill it out for consistency. It's all about experimenting for me.
@@SladeTakalaLamey Just a thought too, if you struggle to get the ID correct, you could fill a bigger ID with something like epoxy, then drill it out to whatever specification you need.
@@ScottVanHorne Good call.
subed awaiting update video 👍
Greeting from Slovakia.
Man, you are a legend. Now I am looking for a way, how to adapt your build for my road bike.
I am probably gonna use thru-axle for Topeak bike trailer, as I don't have braze-on rack mount on my bike.
Thank you for the video!
Absolute pleasure.
Would be absolutely awesome if anyone could document it in written text ... Maybe a reddit post or something? I am absolutely interested in this. The idea of using the topeak axle sounds awesome
PS. I also recently got a Waltly gravel :)
@@mireia3208 Enough people have asked for a detailed version. So it's on its way!
Very cool! I had something similar in mind, but my frame has much less mounts 😭😭
My frame is custom and I opted out of pannier holes on the seat stay, So the seat post clamp is a life saver!
thats bad ass
😎👍
If you want to go even cheaper I bet you could do something similar with bamboo
Seems like the eye bolts are screwed into the riv nuts. I would add another nut and tighten it against the riv nut to eliminate any slop
This is so cool! Please give us an instructional vid or write out the steps you did!
Here you go, th-cam.com/video/sLK4O2Unjhk/w-d-xo.html
This is really cool! I am definitely considering trying something similar. I'm curious to see if it will hold up to the demands of riding off road!
I am taking it on a 1000k ride called the Midnight Sun Gravel. So I'll let you know.
@@SladeTakalaLamey Amazing! I'll probably try to construct something similar anyway this summer :)
Cool!! Are the bags diy too?
Make you a video about these?
Yes they are. It's coming, but I am a novice with a sewing machine so I spend more time cursing it than filming. The video suffers.
Brilliant! Some of that would require me extending my skill set. I think I could pull it off though. That is, unless you're taking orders. I want one for *my* Waltly....which will have bolt holes on the seat stays.
Not taking orders yet, but considering developing it into a kit for sale.
@@SladeTakalaLameyI'd buy one. I have an idea for spacers at the seatpost clamp that would allow the horizontal rails to be parallel. This way, non-custom bags would be compatible. I'm also thinking about a mount for taillight/radar on the rear element.
@@michaelnewman4302 currently I do all my adventure riding in Finnish summer time, lights never even crossed my mind. I'm taking it on the Midnight Sun Gravel this year, where the sun barely goes down.
@@SladeTakalaLamey That's understandable. Here, most of my riding requires a taillight. A rack that light I'd probably leave on the bike all of the time. As I progress with a design based on yours I may settle on something as simple as epoxying a Garmin mount on the rear member.
@@michaelnewman4302 my local library does free 3D printing, I'm sure there would be a way of making a tube Garmin mount for 11mm tubes.
I would love to know how you make the bags. I have attempted to make something similar for my aero bars but it didn’t go so well. That looks amazing.
There's a film on the way sir!
@@SladeTakalaLamey Thank you very much sir,
👍👍👍👍
That's naughty
YOU ARE GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!! What kind of glue did You use ?
Very nice of you to say. Theres a more detailed version to watch here if you like. th-cam.com/video/sLK4O2Unjhk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=K2LiOmyDJGpYxd0c
Mmm, that's going to last a LONG time. The last thing you want on a tour is a snapped rack, particularly for the sake of saving a few grams. Tubus you ain't.
I'll let you know if and when it does. Thankfully the bag can double up as an arse rocket.
Awesome tutorial and idea! Just don't go over 10kg it won't hold more if you ride.
I'm a bike-packer much more than a tourer, so it does me good!
noice
What did you put inside horizontal/inner/middle tubes? About 1:00
Whats the purpose of it?
For me it looks like some metal rod/stick so there is more gluing/connection surface for epoxy?
👍 It's a bit of dowel about 10mm long, for extra gluing surface.
I know it's a cheeky jab at tailfin, but there is no way your rack holds up those 40lbs on a rough decent for years of use. There is a massive difference between static load and dynamic load.
Awesome design though! Sid eto side loads might be an issue, I would ad cross members from the down truss to the opposite horizontal truss to stiffen it.
It's working a treat for my bag with my sleeping gear in it and that's all it needs to do. No need to over engineer. But I agree, if I needed it to do more, it would need better support!
Take my money!
Hey can you make a video about your solar setup in the front?
It's in the plan. This very morning I've been looking into how to take readings from a multimeter via a USB, so I can see how much power I'm drawing. It's a whole lot cheaper than a Garmin Solar though.
Super sick build!
What kind of epoxy did you use for gluing?
Casco, strong epoxy professional.
It's the basic supermarket stuff. I hope it holds, I'm keeping it on my bike all summer long, so I'll keep you posted.
JB weld works great for this
Very nice! So is it stiff enough while riding? What kind of carbon tubes and which glue did you use? I built a lightweight aluminum rack for my race bike which has no rack mounts. It hold for three days bikepacking. Then it broke at home because the bike fell over 😂 my second approach was to buy a common bike rack and only build some sturdy adapters from aluminum. Works great but looks meh.
So far it's really stiff. I'm only carrying my hammock and sleeping bag stuff in it so it's doing really well. I'm gonna try not to drop it. 😁
The tubes are linked in the description, they are 3K 11mmOD 9mmID, the epoxy was Casco blue.
Will it handle loosely balanced panniers of 12 kilos each on mildly rough terrain? Meaning, say, gravel roads or cobblestone stretches of 1-5 kilometers (with turns)
I'll let you know after the summer. Only used it for this film so far. I'm off on the Midnight Sun Gravel 1000k in a few weeks, so keep a watchful eye and I'll let you know.
be great if you could make a video about it...[edit, nah I had another look and I can just about suss it out, cheers!]
Just in case: th-cam.com/video/sLK4O2Unjhk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=uYzmTscVNEvruUrh
Basically I need a few carbon sticks and somebody who can connect them in the right way.
Yup!
the algorithm like this video
She's a cruel mistress and I've been on the wrong side of her for years, so it's really nice that I'm finally getting in her good books.
@@SladeTakalaLamey Yeah, definitely deserved. What about the bags? How did u made them?
That film is coming soon, But first the solar panel film - out v soon.
Very nice. I'm sold. What's lateral stiffness like? Would be interested in it dealing with panniers etc.
I can pick up the bike and wiggle it and it stays pretty stiff. I'll let you know what happens over time.
@@SladeTakalaLamey You're an inspiration!
Hi! It looks great. I have few questions. Can anyone help me with them.
- why use glue for middle rods
- what is the correct way to test the strength of such structures. Putting load on it is not sufficient. In real like situations, force on it will be lot more due to jerks and acceleration
- carbon rod vs carbon sheet molded?
Ik most likely no one will answer these questions. In case anyone does, thanks in advance.
Hi, I'm doing my best to answer all the questions, I'm still a small enough TH-camr for that.
The middle rods are only there to stiffen up the lateral flex and also to provide a platform for bags to sit on, so they didn't need to be that strong.
I plan to test the tensile strength test of the rod-nut-bolt combo by stringing up the eyelet in each end and seeing how much weight the epoxy can hold. I have some leftovers to play with. Thus far I have pulled as hard as I can with a string loop at each end, and they didn't budge.
I'd love to see a carbon-sheet rack, but that is for someone else to tackle! Please send me a link if you see one.
I'm testing it out in a 1000k gravel race in a few weeks, so watch this space and I'll let you know how it holds up.
Nice but.... static weight vs dynamic weight. Probably have more real world potential with a second pair of struts from the seat stays :)
I've tested it with a bag full of camera batteries and jackets, I'm off on a 1000k packing race in a few weeks, so a long-term review will be coming.
Brilliant, and thanks for posting component parts source.
They're affiliate links, so no it wasn't pure altruism. 😁 But you are welcome!
How's it work with panier bags?
I'm rather hoping someone will let us all know. There have been lots of people saying they will give it a go, and I'm encouraging everyone to send me pics when they have completed. Watch this space....
This is great! 200 grams ligther than my tubus airy titanium and wayy cheaper. Liked&subscribed! What's the length of the ring bolt needed?
I used 80mm and 25mm, although the 25 could have been longer if I'm honest. I'd do 30mm. But is you wait for the detailed video which is coming out soon, all will become clear.
Your tubus is worth the cost and the grams because it tested and won't break under load nor because of being slightly bumped. Carbon DIY jobs like this are cool but impractical to use because you're never going to be sure how well it holds up unless you're an engineer and have a lab to test its strength/fatigue.
@@Primifluous it is reassuring to know it's going to work as intended as long as I stay within the weight limit. The DIY rack still has it's value for lightweight bikepacking, just need to conduct visual inspection periodically to check for cracks. Maybe even build one that can be disassembled and packed as spare or when not in use since it's so light.
Amazing !
I didn't understand what you are doing from 0.40 to 0.45 in the video.
You heat the bolts before enlarging the hole, then youput them in pot of water ?
I just ordered everything, can't wait to try to create my own tailfin 😝
Amazing, I'd love to see how it turns out. Yes, I heated the bolts to soften the metal (otherwise I would have got through a few drill bits). Then I heated them up again and rapidly cooled them, thus hardening the metal again. I'm not a metal expert, but I think that's how it works.
@@SladeTakalaLamey sorry if it's a stupid question but why did you have to enlarge the hole? The part didn't exist with the right size hole?
@@charkes1936 Hi, there are no stupid questions. Stupid people don't ask questions and remain stupid for ever.
The M6 eye bolts have M5 holes (these work really well for the standard M5 mounting holes on the bike).
That meant that the Flat Head Blind Rivet Nut had to be M6. Which in turn meant that the tube was 9mmID and 11mmOD.
That meant the gold coloured bolts that fit into the ends of the cross brace had to be M6. So the Eye bolts didn't fit.
There may be an M6 eye bolt with an M6 hole but i couldn't find one.
Hope that helps.😀
Nice, but if i paid myself for the time that would take me much longer than $500 in labor cost.
Gained a sub off this one! Also got a tailfin ad below this video 😂
They've been in contact. It's all love.
I think you just started a business. When can I buy one?
singing my song, when you can't find it at the store or online, make it yourself.
Please can you tell me song name?
On a ragga tip!
@@SladeTakalaLamey thank you👍
@@SmailAziko Pleasure. It's a millennial classic.
@@SladeTakalaLamey Yes, thank you, it’s surprising that I have never encountered this music before. Thank you.
do you take orders?
Not yet, but if I get enough requests, I plan to launch it as a buyable kit.
Bike looks like a pelican
RAD
Pointless piece of equipment.
Everyone's a troll. If you've not got anything nice to say...! 😜