55: What is a banneton basket? - Bake with Jack
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- These cheeky baskets are super handy for holding the shape of a wet dough while it proves up, but not exclusively! You can pop any dough into a banneton and get those lovely patterns in the flour on top...
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I used to be a terrible baker. An OK cook, but terrible baker. Your tips have helped me so much! I can now make something else besides disappointment. 😅 I cannot thank you enough, Jack!!! ❤❤❤
You are so welcome laetitia! Thanks so much for your support 👌🏻
Following Jack's instructions in his videos did the same for me. So cool hearing people are benefitting from Jack.
Same here! I am just delving into the world of homemade breads and Jack's tips and video have been of immense help, he's great!
"get a colander"
Got an urge to try a new recipe for a wet overnight dough, and you just saved the whole thing, mate!
Straight forward. Easy to understand. I love it
Whatever you do never get your bannaton wet. You don’t wash them but wait for them to dry out and brush them, if you get the wet the cane will soak up the water and the old flour and your basket will go mouldy. As for the 'hat' a shower cap workers much better.
Just so I understand you tension the dough and put the tensioned side down in the banneton then flip it out to bake. I like it! And now off to Amazon!
Jack you nailed it in the first 45 seconds mate. Been using semolina so it was cool hearing you suggest the same. Banneton will be purchased as you suggest so thanks again.
I don't have a proof basket. I use a mixing bowl lined with parchment paper. Mist with water so it can be pressed flat. Put dough in to rise. Lift out by 2 opposite corners. Place in Dutch oven. Slash dough, put cover on. In oven it goes. No air is lost what soever. Nicely made boule every single time. Easy, no tipping. The top is always up.
THAT IS A GREAT IDEA 😃
I do the same, with one exception. I slash the dough before I place it in the preheated Dutch oven. It's easier to slash when I don't have to worry about getting burned.
There many sizes out there. Perhaps you could explain which diametre to chose depending on the weight of the dough?
You have all the answers Jack! You are great!
I just ordered one from amazon. I can’t wait
Thank you! No one ever told me what those were for. Now that I know I will purchase a couple. That way it helps with the support which as you know, I have often struggled with. So it's best to dust with rice flour if not making a sourdough?💟💟 Since I don't have one yet I am going to try the colinder thing.. LOL..no telling what it will look like 😂😂..woohooo ..see ya Thursday ✴️✴️✴️
Rice flour, semolina, something that won’t absorb into the dough!
I love you Jack!!!
Thx again Jack...you ROCK brother!
thank you ... love your accent! I'm in NY. Buying my Banneton today. Subscribed!
Loving your channel mate! My bread is defo getting better.
Love banneton proofing basket is the best
Thank you, Jack.
hi Jack.. i love my Bannetons.. any hints of keeping them clean ..i put mine in the oven after baking the bread..figuring that anything undesirable will get cooked! (you do have to remember to take it out the oven before your son decides to switch the oven on again!) mmmmm the smell of baking bannetons!! cheers Jack!
😄 I let mine dry out and brush them out with a washing up brush
Very helpful and appreciated! Thanks!
Hope you’ll show us how to use the basket as I bought one but the result was a fairly flat round bread. I must be doing something wrong. Love your videos!!
Try this if you haven’t already th-cam.com/video/ww78_SfGyQE/w-d-xo.html
Use lees water .
Thank you 🙏
I love your energy Jack!! I hope you can help me - my artisan bread looks wonderful going in oven but then disaster happens. The sides pull up and i end up with a hard ball. It seems to get good oven spring but it all seems to go up. I do score the bread . I would love to hear your advice. Thanks so much - keep the information coming!!
Joanne, I just learned about bannaton baskets a few mins ago in this lady's recipe vid so I watched it. 😜 ? bannaton? & ended here in your comment. She had a perfect vid & included what to do, w/out realizing she has your perfect answer. Hope this helped. th-cam.com/video/QHH7AzvSmJ4/w-d-xo.html
I use rice flour or cornflour to dust inside my bannetons - no gluten (which I think is how dough sticks??!!). They're great - highly recommend. Great vid Jack!
Ah yes I guess that would make sense! 👍🏻
I sometimes use rice flour to dust it. But if I'm baking with whole wheat flour, I often sift some flour with a fine mesh sieve and use the remaining bran to dust the banneton. Doesn't stick and has a great appearance.
Yep - it means the loaf just pops straight out of the banneton, rather than having to struggle to get it out! Then slash it, and into a very hot oven (I make sourdoughs - yum)!
Do you do anything to the banneton when you first get it?! Or do you just dust is with flour and add the dusted dough?
Just got my 1st Banneton Basket delivered. Thank you for the helpful video! Can't wait to make a sourdough bread this weekend with my sourdough wild yeast starter!❤Shanna
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Thnx for that useful tip
You’re welcome!
A banneton basket is not needed for a log-shaped-tin-loaf, right? Because after stretch n fold, make the log and put it in the tin, wait for it to puff n bake.. Am I right?
Hello, was wondering what size is this round one you're holding? Issit S: 13x6 cm, M: 18x9 cm, L: 20x8 cm or XL: 25x8 cm? What about the rectangular one? I'm trying to buy them online, never bought one before. Any help would be great, thanks!
Was really after sizing per dough amount... oh.. well. :)
Hi Jack, my question is: How do I tip the dough out of the banneton without knocking air out of the dough? I try to be as careful as possible but often the dough falls out and inevitably deflates the dough somewhat.
Hi. At What moment you put the dough in the banneton? Thank you
What size is that round and oval banneton in the video? I'm so confused with the sizes, I'm making smallish loaves with about 450g flour per loaf
hello. did you find out which size they are ?
@@gzemavsar4063 you would think Jack would address which size for his loaves.... frustrating for beginners
Can u use for blommer bread to keep some height my free form spread out and didn’t get the raise i wonted i wish you would show the end product of the bread after fimishing your videos
Would be nice to instruct on the sizes
Hello Jack. I just recently discovered you on TH-cam and I'm hooked. So I need to ask if I can't find a basket to make my sourdough bread, is there something else I can use until they are back in stock? Seems they are sold out everywhere for a bit. Thanks in advance for your reply,
Colander with a tea towel (do not use a fibrous towel, I tried and it was a disaster lol), and I'm also trying this week with a couple of bowls, also lined with a tea towel, but also using extra towels under the tea towel to make it the shape I want as using just a plain bowl allowed too much spread last time I tried it.
Do you need to "season" the basket when not using the cloth? Also, any recommendations for cleaning the basket?
I don’t bother, and here 👉🏻 th-cam.com/video/ZU85bKvpwok/w-d-xo.html
start with a collander and use it until your bread looks good and you had a fair share of fails and learnd lessons.
THEN buy the banneton. it will pimp up your bread 1000x times
Hi Jack what do you do to get rid of/prevent flour weevils from living in your bannetons?
Brush them out every time 👌🏻
Do you mist the basket before flouring it or do you just use flour?
No misting 👍🏻
Thanks for the fast response and info.
I almost purchased one on Amazon last night but I also turn wooden bowls as a hobby. Could I simply make a wooden one or does it have to be cane? Thanks.
A homemade wooden proving bowl?! That would be awesome! I think a key part though needs to be that it’s breathable. So however you figure that out I’d love to see it!!
Phil Cooke kudos Phil, I would love to see it also 💗 do you sell your wooden bowls? If so please contact me elfhaven13@gmail.com thanks!!
I've sold a couple over the years but I just do it for a hobby. You can find some pictures of them on Facebook. Look for PhilipJCooke
Yes I think so - modern ones are made of wood pulp but supposing you turned a wooden one and used a lathe to carve the grooves? What I have on mind is making one out of clay and carving the grooves out at the hard leather stage. Then, smooth it until it's shiny, let it dry and fire it in a pit.
Does the dough still develop the lines/pattern when you put the dough in the lining to proof?
No 👍🏻
Hi, Jack! One question: I don't have an oval banneton (I actually don't have any bannetons at all but for round loaves I use a colander and it works pretty fine), but I really like baking bâtards, so can I use a regular bread pan lined with a cotton cloth to proof them, just to hold their shape? I often bake batards without them but they often come out flat hahahah Thanks for your videos!
If you are doing a few in one go, get some cloths, dust them well and put them in your table. Put the batards on the cloth with a big raised pleat in between them, and buddy them up next to each other to prove up together with the cloth pleat to stop it sticking. Make sense?? 😐
It does, of course! The problem is putting it in the oven after prrofing without deflating it (I've tried it once, ruined the whole batch)..., that's why I wanted to know if bread tins are ok (I know they don't have holes to let the moist go through but that's the only vessel I have for that)
@@gabrielfranco3598 I know this comes late for you but may help others. Stack them side by side like baguettes or large ciabattas (dough upside down). As you'll have taller doughs than baguettes, give more cloth to the pleats and flour really well. Then cover the lot with another floured cloth. Then to release onto a peel is also the same as baguettes: flatten pleat on one side; place peel alongside dough; then using the pleat on the otherwise to push and flip the dough onto peel. Repeat for other doughs.
What size would I need for a round one for your beginner sourdough bread?
Or what size bowl? 8inch or 9inch?
Do you need to wash the basket before first use?
Where did you purchase yours?
thanks handsome!
You’re welcome ☺️☺️☺️
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What happens if you put your seam side down in the banneton?
Wife just got one of these works great for the prep. but we can't figure out how to keep the bread from splitting around the sides when it bakes
Around the SIDES? Send a photo to info@bakewithjack.co.uk and I’ll do my best ☺️👌🏻
Thanks! My wife posted a few shots on Instagram, she watched a few more of your videos and started cutting the top with a few lines. That worked, gonna have to get here some product from your site soon, thanks again!
So the only benefit of using this is - it makes designs on your bread?
How much weight of dough can go on a banneton depending on its size
How to you pick the size of banneton to use?
hey there. has anyone tried using a cotton rope banneton basket? it's purpose is for proofing dough. rather than the popular cane wood baskets, has anyone heard of a cotton rope banneton?
I really don't understand the sizes of proofing baskets.. is the dough weight for baskets only the amount of flour used?
It’s the dough weight. My baskets are 1 kilo baskets but my dough is normally around 850-900 👍🏻
@@Bakewithjack Ah alright, thank you :)
Yes, the video didn't explain WHY
what is that wicked jazz in end of your vid?
Still not sure if to cover it up in the fridge or not...
I don’t
I would like to know how much dough goes into a banneton according to its size
Here is the thing, I don't want lines on my sourdough, so can I prove with the liner without sticking?
Yes, but you will still want to dust your liner :)
Hi Jack, can you share the dimensions of your oval banetton? I bought one before, but it was too big for my dough and the bread turned out too flat. Thanks Jack much love
30cm long by 16cm wide. I’ll have em in the shop soon 🤗🤗🤗
Jack - d'you know how much these things cost here in South Africa - between R400 and R500. I am going to have a bash at making my own. I like doing McGyverish things like that and I'm good at it...
Wow that’s a lot!! Good luck making one that sounds awesome!
Just bought a proofing basket. I can see through it between the "reeds". I have ever used one before is this normal?
Yeah cool ☺️👌🏻
my banneton caught on fire during the backing process.
Is it right to bake my sourdough inside the banneton?
Off topic ... Jack's instructions + very hot oven + steam = crusty rolls that puff up with a soft insides. Damn Jack what else you got mate?
TONS!
Then let's have at it mate. Your farm loaf bread making kit was excellent. The best wheat loaf I've made yet.
Use a *different* flour? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....
God damn it, how many loaves died pointless deaths before I came across that bit of information? Sigh
Sound quality? None.