Kenjutsu = Fencing with the sword outside the sheath Kendo = Modern sport fencing based off of old kenjutsu, with armor Iaido = Modern sword cut drawing, based off of old iaijutsu/battojutsu, but done more for moving meditation
Kenjutsu is not fencing. Kenjutsu is quite literally combat training for the Japanese sword and incorporates grappling, tripping and wrestling techniques. All with the aim of keeping you alive and the other person less so. Fencing is a sport and Kendo is the Japanese equivalent. Although it is a budo, so it's less sportified and has a strict moral and etiquette centric focus to the study. It's forging of the character. Iaido does the same but using swords in solo and paired Kata with strong emphasis on drawing and sheathing the blade. Iaido is closer than kendo to kenjutsu in technique, however Kendo is closer to kenjutsu in terms of combative, full contact interaction. I practice both. One for about 6 years now and the other for 20 Years. So that's what I'm basing my comments on.
@@alittlepuertoricanboy1993 aye sure, what do I know? I've only trained in one for 6 years and the other for 20 but yeah okay. I see you do BJJ. That's awesome man. Fantastic discipline.
@@Masterlessmusic Sorry, I didn't mean to come at you like that, forgive my rudeness. Look, when I say "fencing", I mean "swordsmanship" in a very broad sense, because that's originally how the word was used. Before Olympic sport fencing, "fencing" also could have meant something HEMA based, and even many kenjutsu ryuha were often referred to as "fencing" by Westerners in older literature on Japanese culture. I'm basically saying the exact same thing you are, but you're just saying it with much more nuance.
@@alittlepuertoricanboy1993 right, I get where coming from. Yeah no bother. I was probably fixating on the sportification aspect too much there in hindsight. Water under the bridge.
As an iaidoka, it's fucking cringe. You're impressed because it looks flashy to you, but to me it's a lame figure-8 and a ton of wasted movement. Not to mention, if you actually cut someone, you'd be flinging blood everywhere.
@@veralnox457 Here's my Counterpoint: No one cares about your very specific negative opinion and holy 🤓 just shut up, I didn't know the fun police were patrolling, "erm actually that's cringe!!1!1" fuck off. "*Snort* Uhm, as an Iaidoka ☝️" lmao. If you had any semblance of intelligence you would realize that he was trying to end the video in a flashy manner to catch your eye not an instructor to the form, go take a shower because you're trying too hard.
Iaido: what should my mindset be before, during, and after engagement? Kenjutsu: What should I do, really, during engagement? Kendo: Here are some bamboo swords and armor; fight!
liado = you should be empty. Do not think, feel ,anticipate or plan. Your training should be complete. Be like stone 🪨 give no indication. Not even to yourself ! Observe but do not react ! Focus on your danger points, not the numbers or who has what?. Listen for the opponent to step , to breath, to hesitate !!! Allow him to believe he is secure and in that second end his thoughts. Without thought, without anger or regret. Clean your blade. Enjoy your 🫖🍵 The sun will rise again tomorrow.
In a lot of ways, outside of the specific targeting areas that kendo focuses on, it puts a lot of the actual fundamentals of kenjutsu to practice. While a quick attack in kendo is more of a hit, while kenjutsu it is a cut, the difference being very significant in actual combat vs sparring safely. I would personally recommend learning both if you wanted to enter in any kind of Hema type competition. Kendo being the more important of the two. Because of the emphasis of quick attacks, good footwork, and solid fundamentals, those types of competitions don't really require you to make cuts on the opponent, rather, focusing more on just hitting the opponent in an area to score a point. Kendall already does something similar to this, there for that will serves you extremely well in those situations.
Actually, all jokes aside, kendo strikes are technically meant to be slashes: forward slashes (except body strikes). You guide the blade to your target and push forward, not downward. The theoretical concept is that the curvature of the blade is utilized in this regard, which is why in kendo the strikes must come from the top end of the blade. You cannot do this forward slash at the bottom of the blade as the curvature doesn't help there, and is too close to the fulcrum to be an effective attack. It's a small distinction that most kendoka today do not make, I guess because the nature of the sport is that it doesn't matter really.
iaido is one style of what I was VERY briefly trained in, in a college class. Swordfighing styles across the Earth's geography is as fascinating as it is logical.
Mmmm... I hold 4th Dan in Kendo and practice Iaido as well. Our sister club practice traditional kenjutsu in addition . Although well intentioned ,this video is misleading . I do not believe you are a "trained practioner". I believe you are doing your own thing with little to no guidance from a reputable teacher. However ,I believe your heart is probably in the right place . So, for others visiting ,I'd recommend you look to other examples for demonstration of these arts/ disciplines so you may better understand them. That all being said, I applaud the enthusiasm ,but suggest you seek out an instructor / club thats affiliated under a recognised governing body. Funnel your passion into a more constructive channel. Particularly if you intend to speak in the public domain with any kind of authority on these arts. Best of luck, I hope you find your way.
Although this comment is a bit old, I can't help myself but to tell you that you've spoken like a true martial artist and wise man. Your message is kind and not directly offensive, and you actually give great advice! The way you speak reminds me of my uncle, who's a 2nd den in taekwondo. Underrated comment for real. I wish more comments on TH-cam were like this instead of goobers arguing left and right. I hope all the best in your life!
I mean that's the point though. Their entire purpose is to make anime sword replicas to sell to anime fans. You might not like anime but plenty of people do like it and want to buy replica swords from their favorite animes, the other stuff like their "5 facts about katanas" or "can a katana cut through another katana" videos that they do are mainly just for advertising their products. But it would be cool if they brought someone in with extensive training in swordsmanship for the test cutting, durability test, and the experimental videos they make to advertise their katanas.
You're missing the point, their target market is anime weebs who want anime swords. They are literally just serving the purpose that their company is for, selling anime katanas. The anime-related videos are advertisements directed at (once again) their target market. Don't complain about a business for doing their job 💀
@@cfgp41 His stance is too wide some of the 'examples' he's showing isn't even a technique. his arms are to stiff and he even said he's a trained practitioner. in all honesty very cringe.
His Kendo stance isn't even on the same universe as the correct kamae. Same with his strikes. Real Kendo is beautiful but it's not Tiktok flashy (which is the point of this video).
Great performance and explanation! but as many others have pointed out, it was pretty obvious that you weren’t a student of either martial art based on your form. Good luck on your endeavors and hope to see you in a dojo soon 🫰
It's kenjutsu and iaijutsu for me. I know there's not much difference in iaido and iaijutsu but the thought of jutsu as more for functional battle is my kinda thing. Cool swings
The funny thing is that samurais only used their katanas as the last resort weapon (like a handgun in military), back in a day you will never see them droving a katana, unless all the other weapons are lost, broken or not available. They preferred weapons like a bow, spear or anything that will keep the enemy at a distance . You should never have a preference when it comes to a weapons, YOU MUST MASTER THEM ALL.
When I was just a fan of budo, I was aware of just the hand movement. But when I become the practitioner, leg movement first, hips, and then hand movement is the last thing that must be aware to do a technique. Keep practice bro
your decription is spot on. but your technique in all arts need alot of work. 20 years of practice born and raised in all of they above. keep training my friend! drill those reps and make sure your sensei is correcting your flaws haha
Been in the Martial Arts since the early 1970's ,read about the Katana, the short sword with the Katana,Kendo,Kobudo (Okinawa weapons) the Chinese 3 section staff, the staff (BO),spear and any other weapon the chinese has is a waist.
How many lights have you knocked out? As a kid I got my bokken taken away from me when I accidentally destroyed the chandelier in our livingroom while watching Revenge of the Ninja. Good times 😂😂😂
I am not to familiar with sword arts so the best guess I have is that this is in some way related to iaido based on the focus in sheath and drawing the sword at any rate I would love to learn what ever this is
I wonder if hes left or right handed. Cause he's holding the swords like he's left handed. (The off hand is supposed to be the lower hand and its how you generate power)
This "trained practitioner" seems to do more learning while watching anime than in a dojo. The Iaido section was particularly disgusting with that dumbass meme noto at the end. Musashi is rolling in his grave.
Oh my lord is that ceiling cutting it close to your weapons. I get you’re a (Probably) genuine practitioner but dear god I’d hate it if you hit the ceiling
This man is the Platonic form of "While you were partying I studied the blade."
Bro is the quadratic formula of “By the blade shall we live, by the throat of my foe I’ve slit”
But didn't even do it since i see no footwork
@@hantu7380yeah because there’s so much room for footwork in that tiny room
I used to do fencing competitively i would stab this guy 3 times within 5-10seconds lmao
@@slayerzz3725I'd like to see you try. Ps a needle is nothing compared to a blade that can slice your head off.
Kenjutsu = Fencing with the sword outside the sheath
Kendo = Modern sport fencing based off of old kenjutsu, with armor
Iaido = Modern sword cut drawing, based off of old iaijutsu/battojutsu, but done more for moving meditation
Kenjutsu is not fencing. Kenjutsu is quite literally combat training for the Japanese sword and incorporates grappling, tripping and wrestling techniques. All with the aim of keeping you alive and the other person less so. Fencing is a sport and Kendo is the Japanese equivalent. Although it is a budo, so it's less sportified and has a strict moral and etiquette centric focus to the study. It's forging of the character. Iaido does the same but using swords in solo and paired Kata with strong emphasis on drawing and sheathing the blade. Iaido is closer than kendo to kenjutsu in technique, however Kendo is closer to kenjutsu in terms of combative, full contact interaction. I practice both. One for about 6 years now and the other for 20 Years. So that's what I'm basing my comments on.
@@Masterlessmusic Holy hell, please go touch grass.
@@alittlepuertoricanboy1993 aye sure, what do I know? I've only trained in one for 6 years and the other for 20 but yeah okay. I see you do BJJ. That's awesome man. Fantastic discipline.
@@Masterlessmusic Sorry, I didn't mean to come at you like that, forgive my rudeness.
Look, when I say "fencing", I mean "swordsmanship" in a very broad sense, because that's originally how the word was used. Before Olympic sport fencing, "fencing" also could have meant something HEMA based, and even many kenjutsu ryuha were often referred to as "fencing" by Westerners in older literature on Japanese culture. I'm basically saying the exact same thing you are, but you're just saying it with much more nuance.
@@alittlepuertoricanboy1993 right, I get where coming from. Yeah no bother. I was probably fixating on the sportification aspect too much there in hindsight. Water under the bridge.
That sheathing was 🔥
It was a made up move that you would never learn in iaido, and to an iaidoka: it's cringe.
As an iaidoka, it's fucking cringe.
You're impressed because it looks flashy to you, but to me it's a lame figure-8 and a ton of wasted movement. Not to mention, if you actually cut someone, you'd be flinging blood everywhere.
@@veralnox457 this comment is actually very helpful! and interesting. I'd love to get into idao so, thank you!
@@veralnox457 Here's my Counterpoint:
No one cares about your very specific negative opinion and holy 🤓 just shut up, I didn't know the fun police were patrolling, "erm actually that's cringe!!1!1" fuck off. "*Snort* Uhm, as an Iaidoka ☝️" lmao.
If you had any semblance of intelligence you would realize that he was trying to end the video in a flashy manner to catch your eye not an instructor to the form, go take a shower because you're trying too hard.
@@veralnox457so cleaning the blade without touching it is an issue?
Iaido: what should my mindset be before, during, and after engagement?
Kenjutsu: What should I do, really, during engagement?
Kendo: Here are some bamboo swords and armor; fight!
liado = you should be empty. Do not think, feel ,anticipate or plan.
Your training should be complete.
Be like stone 🪨 give no indication. Not even to yourself !
Observe but do not react !
Focus on your danger points, not the numbers or who has what?. Listen for the opponent to step , to breath, to hesitate !!!
Allow him to believe he is secure and in that second end his thoughts.
Without thought, without anger or regret.
Clean your blade.
Enjoy your 🫖🍵
The sun will rise again tomorrow.
In a lot of ways, outside of the specific targeting areas that kendo focuses on, it puts a lot of the actual fundamentals of kenjutsu to practice. While a quick attack in kendo is more of a hit, while kenjutsu it is a cut, the difference being very significant in actual combat vs sparring safely. I would personally recommend learning both if you wanted to enter in any kind of Hema type competition. Kendo being the more important of the two. Because of the emphasis of quick attacks, good footwork, and solid fundamentals, those types of competitions don't really require you to make cuts on the opponent, rather, focusing more on just hitting the opponent in an area to score a point. Kendall already does something similar to this, there for that will serves you extremely well in those situations.
dont disrespect kendo
Actually, all jokes aside, kendo strikes are technically meant to be slashes: forward slashes (except body strikes). You guide the blade to your target and push forward, not downward. The theoretical concept is that the curvature of the blade is utilized in this regard, which is why in kendo the strikes must come from the top end of the blade. You cannot do this forward slash at the bottom of the blade as the curvature doesn't help there, and is too close to the fulcrum to be an effective attack. It's a small distinction that most kendoka today do not make, I guess because the nature of the sport is that it doesn't matter really.
This comment is ironic, because kendo is actually the art that necessitates mental focus the most.
iaido is one style of what I was VERY briefly trained in, in a college class. Swordfighing styles across the Earth's geography is as fascinating as it is logical.
Bro is Batman
Its not style bro.
Mmmm... I hold 4th Dan in Kendo and practice Iaido as well. Our sister club practice traditional kenjutsu in addition . Although well intentioned ,this video is misleading . I do not believe you are a "trained practioner". I believe you are doing your own thing with little to no guidance from a reputable teacher. However ,I believe your heart is probably in the right place . So, for others visiting ,I'd recommend you look to other examples for demonstration of these arts/ disciplines so you may better understand them. That all being said, I applaud the enthusiasm ,but suggest you seek out an instructor / club thats affiliated under a recognised governing body. Funnel your passion into a more constructive channel. Particularly if you intend to speak in the public domain with any kind of authority on these arts. Best of luck, I hope you find your way.
Although this comment is a bit old, I can't help myself but to tell you that you've spoken like a true martial artist and wise man.
Your message is kind and not directly offensive, and you actually give great advice!
The way you speak reminds me of my uncle, who's a 2nd den in taekwondo.
Underrated comment for real. I wish more comments on TH-cam were like this instead of goobers arguing left and right.
I hope all the best in your life!
@@Fuzzy_and_Tim thanks I guess. I appreciate that.
🙏🏻
I don't think any of the demonstatrated strikes would cut for tameshigiri, and so much unnecessary movements.
I agree with you
this guy is basically what mini katana could've been,not just a weeb talking abt anime while showing their anime katana
Ong 🤷
Well they usually forge the katana and not practice actual sword skills.
Bro doesn’t understand that there are people with interests other than his own💀
I mean that's the point though. Their entire purpose is to make anime sword replicas to sell to anime fans. You might not like anime but plenty of people do like it and want to buy replica swords from their favorite animes, the other stuff like their "5 facts about katanas" or "can a katana cut through another katana" videos that they do are mainly just for advertising their products. But it would be cool if they brought someone in with extensive training in swordsmanship for the test cutting, durability test, and the experimental videos they make to advertise their katanas.
You're missing the point, their target market is anime weebs who want anime swords. They are literally just serving the purpose that their company is for, selling anime katanas. The anime-related videos are advertisements directed at (once again) their target market. Don't complain about a business for doing their job 💀
Iaido is just beautiful
Is there away to do it without needing the sheeth
@@jmgonzales7701No
@@jmgonzales7701 sheathing without sheathe 😱
@jmgonzales7701 In short- no. Specifically because if you cannot properly sheath and unsheath the Katana then you miss step one of Iaido
I was looking for a clear concise comparison and contrast. Awesome work. Thank you!
As someone who has done kendo for about 2 years you could work on your form a bit 😅 but your explanation was really good 👍
His iaido needs practice as well, his footwork is all wrong and he's leaning into his strikes
@@cfgp41 His stance is too wide some of the 'examples' he's showing isn't even a technique. his arms are to stiff and he even said he's a trained practitioner. in all honesty very cringe.
I've never done but kendo, but I had a feeling his stance was wayyy too wde.
His Kendo stance isn't even on the same universe as the correct kamae. Same with his strikes. Real Kendo is beautiful but it's not Tiktok flashy (which is the point of this video).
Can you show us a tutorial on the amazing katana spin-sheath with the iaito you did? I would love to see that
Sheathing a Katana is badass things bro🔥
Is there a wayy to do iado without it
For some reason, I love how he also uses his left hand
Well, that's how it's suppossed to be, Right hand to hold and deliver, left hand to rotate and be agile.
left hand is the power hand right hand is direction
You are making the content i was looking for
Style one: as explained in the video.
Style two: as explained in the video.
Style three: THE ONLY THING I KNOW FOR REAL-
THERE WILL BE BLOOD
Iado looks like poetry in motion.
Lets be real ya know bro was practicing the sheathing way more 😂
That sheath was sick
the lamps on the ceiling are fearing for their life
Kenjutsu, for me, is the best one. The classic
That last sword sheath🔥
That sheathing was sick
Great performance and explanation! but as many others have pointed out, it was pretty obvious that you weren’t a student of either martial art based on your form. Good luck on your endeavors and hope to see you in a dojo soon 🫰
The naginata just chilling on the wall
i want it
What a smooth spinning!
This man is not a trained practitioner please do not think his stances are anywhere near normal
That's excellent swings.
3 SWORD STYLE WE NEED TO SEE IT
u got rlly smooth slash there,strong and formly
God i love this guy already
Keep posting man
It's kenjutsu and iaijutsu for me. I know there's not much difference in iaido and iaijutsu but the thought of jutsu as more for functional battle is my kinda thing. Cool swings
Dude, we need a tutorial on that sick last chiburi/noto.
a slow mo of this would be nice
At least I am not the only left-handed katana user.
Iado is so badass
You know who else is the honored one
The funny thing is that samurais only used their katanas as the last resort weapon (like a handgun in military), back in a day you will never see them droving a katana, unless all the other weapons are lost, broken or not available. They preferred weapons like a bow, spear or anything that will keep the enemy at a distance . You should never have a preference when it comes to a weapons, YOU MUST MASTER THEM ALL.
Really nice form man. If you like kenjutsu you should check out Hyōhō Niten Ichi-ryū
Hell ye. Iaido is what I learned
Damn me coming back to this, pretty wacky i am now currently teaching my friend my learnings over the past couple years.
When I was just a fan of budo, I was aware of just the hand movement. But when I become the practitioner, leg movement first, hips, and then hand movement is the last thing that must be aware to do a technique. Keep practice bro
This is so fascinating. 😮
I would love a kenjutsu break down all you’re forms attacks and defense if you can 😊 I’m working on blocking/parring then striking and visa versus.
There are no “blocks” in Classical Japanese Kenjutsu.
your decription is spot on. but your technique in all arts need alot of work. 20 years of practice born and raised in all of they above. keep training my friend! drill those reps and make sure your sensei is correcting your flaws haha
How I think I be looking playing Blade and Sorcery:
Currently practicing iado, it’s great. Will do the others eventuLly
The ceiling is so low I was scared you were gonna hit the light lol
You gotta teach me how to do that spin at the end
Bro knows how to do sun halo head dance
After my knowledge this Martial arts where more later developed !
I need to learn every single on of these :sob:
Amazing ❤️
Amazing !
As someone who practiced kendo that was completely wrong and painful to watch,
This is just a weeb
This was recommended so=
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING~
Bro with those 3 swords you could be the- wait who is that guy with the green hair again?
You might need to focus more on your biomechanics and structure, but your spins are great.
Been in the Martial Arts since the early 1970's ,read about the Katana, the short sword with the Katana,Kendo,Kobudo (Okinawa weapons) the Chinese 3 section staff, the staff (BO),spear and any other weapon the chinese has is a waist.
Just realizing that Iaido style is like the old west quick draws lmao
How many lights have you knocked out? As a kid I got my bokken taken away from me when I accidentally destroyed the chandelier in our livingroom while watching Revenge of the Ninja. Good times 😂😂😂
Make some more videos brother. Teach us how to use katana please
Bro forgot *santoryu*
GREAT STUFF!
A combination of Kenjutsu and Iaido is eloquent.
Surprisingly the kenjutau stances almost similar with those longsword stances
To spar with you would be heavensent
I love you!
Saya is on the wrong side during the Iaido one. Also, typically bokuto are also very commonly used in Iai.
I am not to familiar with sword arts so the best guess I have is that this is in some way related to iaido based on the focus in sheath and drawing the sword at any rate I would love to learn what ever this is
Your movements were clean! 👍🏽
Your left handed, Left hand power!!
if you just do a Zoro cosplay with laido it would look like real life zoro
Each time I think of iaijutsu I think of vergil
FINALLY , somebody to explain the differences so i dont have to and then get into arguments. Just gonna share this video .
You forgot Battodo
What about Iaijutsu? Is there a difference between Iaido and Iaijutsu?
There generally isn't. The difference has basically been lost in time apparently. They terms mean the same thing these days
@@Unholy_TriforceLOL
The last one is pretty much all anime swordsmanship 😂😂😂
I wonder if hes left or right handed. Cause he's holding the swords like he's left handed. (The off hand is supposed to be the lower hand and its how you generate power)
How many times have you replaced those ceiling tiles?? 😂
I like Kenjutsu
Kenjutsu and Iaido go hand and hand. Kendo is the only one of the 3 that actually have nothing to do with being a samurai or swordsmanship
Yesss I love this guy 😂
Awesome
Iado with real weapon is all fun and games until U slit Ur fingers (referring to sheathing part)
This "trained practitioner" seems to do more learning while watching anime than in a dojo. The Iaido section was particularly disgusting with that dumbass meme noto at the end. Musashi is rolling in his grave.
Lol jealous hater
@@Unholy_Triforcenope, he's speaking truth
this guy has not practiced any budo clearly.
Explain quick, WHAT exactly you have trained in. I'd like to know.
good
I wish i could do all and I've looked for places but none are nearby
**Iaido, kenjutsu and kendo has* has left the chat*
"Zoro has joined the chat."
Oh my lord is that ceiling cutting it close to your weapons. I get you’re a (Probably) genuine practitioner but dear god I’d hate it if you hit the ceiling
What's a samurai gonna do against my gun
Bro has the anime hair !
Hahaha 😆 that about it sums it up
I hope to become as great as Miyamoto Musashi. Thank you for the notes!
That form does not say "trained practitioner" at all...
Dude! You are pretty good at wielding shinai!
One of the best kendoka ever seen!
Please tell me this is ironic I beg you
Hey thx for the vid ! May I ask where you learn iaido and kenjutsu ? I want to learn these martial arts
So that’s where Kenshi got the animations
Is it possible to learn this power (at home training by yourself)?