Atlus: Ok Grant, you won’t be playing Shinji in the remake but you will play someone else Grant George: That means my character gets to live right? Atlus: …..
That sent chills down my spine when I heard that. My initial reaction was "Holy shit, did somebody actually die in the studio?!" That was really good voice acting right there!
"He swore he would atone for putting out generation in danger, even if it cost him his life. But I...I wanted him to live. I became a Persona-user so I could protect him." Such strong words from Mitsuru. That is why we protect Senpai. We don't let her bear this burden alone.
Poor Grant George, dude is always getting killed off in versions of Persona 3. On a serious note, Clark does a really good job with Mitsuru here, Robinson and her are the best of the recasts
Lol, if you made persona 3 fan listen to Platt's and Clark's mitsuru without telling which is which, I wonder how many will not notice th difference(assuming sound quality would be the same of course)
@Gafafsg I don't understand people that think Fuuka's older voice is better. Those nostalgia glasses really affecting their judgment because Fuuka's new voice is objectively better than her old voice which was only liked for her meme delivery. It's like the night and day difference between Frieza's old smokers voice and his newer more royal voice.
@@VictorArriaga239 I also apply that to Ken as well. His first va wasn't that good in fact it was one of the weaker performances in the og game. Like Yeung with Fuuka Lee as Ken is just objectively better with how she voices him through his arc in the remake. Cindy was also a great Ken as well.
Fun Fact: Grant George who plays Takeharu Kirijo also plays Sigurd in Fire Emblem Heroes and Engage. Figures since they're both fathers who die part way through their games.
@Papaya-bl4dc There are lots of shared voice actors, like akihiko is the same voice as Yuri, Elizabeth is Edelgard, Kenji is Claude, Jin is Dimitri and I forgot the rest but there are more
I don’t know if anyone else commented on this, but I just love at 16:30 when Makoto goes over to Aigis and makes sure she’s okay/ comforts her. I think it’s really sweet.
Mitsuru's performance in the scene of her father's death is really damn good. The pure emotion from her voice in that scene, it legit sounded like Allegra Clark watched someone she cared about die right in front of her. Amazing performance right there!
@@marcthomas4488i haven't played nocturne in a while but from what i remember, the entire world gets erased at the start of the game, and in p3 if they didn't seal nyx the world would've ended
I dont know why but Atlus seems to love Villains who are Nihilistic. But to a certain Point at least every Person did think one Time in that Line of Thougt. Its like Adachi in Persona 4 each Person in the World could become easily like him. Reminds me always on Jokers Quote: All it needs to break a Person is one bad Day. It just needs to be the most terrible Day you ever had.
12:14 Honestly, that should've become a boss fight like with Chidori, also personally I think there should be a fight with Ikutsuki, with him having a Persona
Yeah,ikutsuki spending ten years to initiate the fall,there is no way he didnt find a way to make safe artificial persona. In p5 we know that adult person can have persona too as long as they have will of rebellion (zenkichi and maruki) But the story creator didnt got too creative and just make the same plot as P3 Vanilla 😅
i just realized that P3 still have more of that megaten DNA than other modern Persona series (4&5). With overall darker theme, and with this "the Fall" to bring about a new world, that's pretty similar to the mainline SMT's although not as extreme as them. Maybe that's why story and plotwise i have always thought that P3 is the best of them all, P4 strong points are in the social links for me and the mystery solving parts are much more riddling than 5 ever was, as for P5 for me it's the designs of dungeons, the replication of Tokyo, and the gameplay mechanics. But now that the mechanics are perfected in P3R, it is safe to say that Persona 3 are the best one in the series.
@@diez5778 on second thought, you're right. 4 with the fog caused by Izanami connecting the two worlds, and yeah all that god shit with 5. I guess it was because the overall brighter concept of those 2 that made me have this perception
Social links in Persona 4 were meh outside the Investigation Team. Playing P3 made me realize it really only had like 2-3 meh SLs and everyone else was really interesting and were just held back by the lack of voice acting and assets back in the day.
When I started playing this game, I thought the betrayal was because the chairman was Jin. I was wrong, but I liked the twist anyway because I did not expect it like that. Persona always keeps you on your toes.
Nope, I played Persona 5 Royal and Strikers before this. Had a bad feeling right from the start that he was a twist villain. I hate that I was right though, I liked Shuji and his puns. Hopefully not every Persona game has a twist villain…it’s getting repetitive 😅
Question cuz I'm not sure if the game actually clarifies this... Does this mean that Ikutsuki also knew about Death being sealed away inside Makoto from the start? And that him awakening to his persona is what started the return of the 12 shadows? Or did he not and he just grossly misunderstood how Death would return? Like, did sacrificing Mitsuru's father even have any effect on Ryoji's arrival or would he have still turned up anyway? I thought he might have known from the start, cuz it would make sense if he probed Aigis' memories of fighting Death to prevent her from revealing his plans. I also remember there being a suspicious early game interaction that made Ikutsuki sound as if he deliberately tampered w Makoto's dorm plans. But idk. This whole scene is just a bit weird to me.
Okay I'm trying to answer your question with my own interpretation of these events, since I don't think it's ever explicitly stated. 1. Ikutsuki knowing about Death inside Makoto. I think he didn't knew since the beginning, I think he knew when Thanatos killed the Magician Arcana. His surprise seemed genuine. 2. Death and it's return. So I do think he knew about the significance and correlation between Thanatos and the Shadows. 3. Sacrifice of Mitsurus father. Okay heres my crack theory about this whole ordeal. I'm not sure if the sacrifice of him actively brought Ryoji into the normal world. BUT I do think that his sacrifice had a role. There's something I noticed about Thanatos' design. It has 8 "coffins", or something akin to it, on a chain. And there were 8 planned sacrifices present in this scene. The father of Mitsuru and everyone of SEES (besides Koromaru obv). And I personally do believe that Mitsurus Dad was a somewhat improvised sacrifice and that his place was supposed to be filled by Aragaki. But since he passed away... Well he had to improvise. 3. Ikutsuki knowing from the start. I can imagine him knowing about Death being sealed away in someone. Maybe he'd tamper with everyones dorm plan that fit the bill of the information he has. Idk his surprise of seeing Thanatos just seemed so genuine so eh.
Oh and about Ryojis return. I think there's more to this whole sacrifice ordeal. Maybe this would've sped up Nyx' return, or that he wanted to "awaken" Thanatos/Ryoji on his own terms, to either use Thanatos/Ryoji or maybe to somehow become Nyx' Avatar himself? I don't think he grossly misunderstood, but wanted to turn everything into his own favor
Ikutsuki dont really know how to handle a Gun. Plus he was shocked for a Moment so his Aim actually should missed Mitsurus Dad. And not been that deadly.
I had known about this betrayal before playing - I didn’t own a PlayStation so I couldn’t play any of the games aside from p4g so I watched the movie - but even after playing this game, seeing everyone on the crosses felt very disturbing to me
There is absolutely no way she'd have ever been able to defeat SEES let alone the Protagonist. She's weak to Zio and is going up against several enemy Persona users at once. Only a couple Zios from Akihiko Ken or Makoto would've incapacitated her easily. This whole scene makes zero sense.
@@ClearmindArtist It's because Ryoji wasn't at his full form when they first fought and he made that clear, when aigis found ryoji again in his true form with all the shadows defeated he got his full power back, power enough to subdue aigis without even moving
As much as i love how strict they follow the Original Events. I would loved to see Ikutsuki getting Loaded with Lot of Bullets from Aigis and the Impact when he hits the Ground. Or just a Arrow from Yukari for both using her and her Father and it would been a good Setup for later talking to Mitsuru and bringing her Back to her Senses.
Again, I'm so confused. Why does your copy lack proper lip syncing in the cutscenes when I've seen others that do, like this one? th-cam.com/video/v9CbmvhH_Uc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2TJv1rgzcETXfrRi
if there's one thing i like about Reload despite finding it really mid it's Ikutsuki. don't get me wrong, i love his original potrayal of a goofy psychopath but i absolutely adore this utterely unhinged potrayal.
Lol on the contrary I have a thing for multicultural music and with my expensive headphones I notice every instrument present... It takes an open mind to understand that the voice work is weak @Zenhunter141
@@lunurai1693 troll or not this is some comically pretentious ass dialogue 😭 "yeah guys i can hear every single wave of sound with my ultra high end awesome headphones, i am the MASTER of sound..."
![[MV] A leap of faith...ความเชื่อใจครั้งสุดท้าย (From "Petrichor the series")](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/U1piZH2CNXA/mqdefault.jpg)
It’s weird to think that Ikutsuki was literally out here torturing children and no one knew
Sho can attest to that
I'm pretty sure the other scientists knew
@@Plazoblock12 Well yeah, but corpses don't count.
Atlus: Ok Grant, you won’t be playing Shinji in the remake but you will play someone else
Grant George: That means my character gets to live right?
Atlus: …..
They can't keep getting away with this!
@@sunwukong825 Well, at the very least it's like Shinjiro finally going against Ikutsuki, something he couldn't do previously in P3
He also voiced Jin in the og so two who died lol
He also voiced Kurosawa@@celes1398
They’re doing Grant George dirty.😢
15:27 Damn that one word delivery from Clark made her worthy of being Mitsuru.
She already was
Yeah. She’s an amazing voice actress. Period.
15:27 i swear mitsuru's voice actor killed it here, just the raw emotion she has in her voice made me cry
That sent chills down my spine when I heard that. My initial reaction was "Holy shit, did somebody actually die in the studio?!"
That was really good voice acting right there!
"He swore he would atone for putting out generation in danger, even if it cost him his life.
But I...I wanted him to live.
I became a Persona-user so I could protect him."
Such strong words from Mitsuru. That is why we protect Senpai. We don't let her bear this burden alone.
I think in P3 FES The Answer, it also showed her motivation and back story.
Poor Grant George, dude is always getting killed off in versions of Persona 3. On a serious note, Clark does a really good job with Mitsuru here, Robinson and her are the best of the recasts
Poor man
I’d put Yeung there, she does a great job as Fuuka and doesn’t trail off at the end of every line
Lol, if you made persona 3 fan listen to Platt's and Clark's mitsuru without telling which is which, I wonder how many will not notice th difference(assuming sound quality would be the same of course)
@Gafafsg I don't understand people that think Fuuka's older voice is better. Those nostalgia glasses really affecting their judgment because Fuuka's new voice is objectively better than her old voice which was only liked for her meme delivery. It's like the night and day difference between Frieza's old smokers voice and his newer more royal voice.
@@VictorArriaga239 I also apply that to Ken as well. His first va wasn't that good in fact it was one of the weaker performances in the og game. Like Yeung with Fuuka Lee as Ken is just objectively better with how she voices him through his arc in the remake. Cindy was also a great Ken as well.
bro still forgot to crucify the dog
Crucifying children is fine, but never animals. Ikutsuki knows his morals
Headcanon:
Ikutsuki already made that for dog size, it just he suddenly forgot why he made it that small
Atleast P3 Movie 3 had him tied up next to Akihiko
Fun Fact: Grant George who plays Takeharu Kirijo also plays Sigurd in Fire Emblem Heroes and Engage. Figures since they're both fathers who die part way through their games.
And he played Shinji in the older P3 games
So that's why I recognized his voice! I play Heroes daily and thought he sounded familiar. Didn't realize he was the bbq dad!
@Papaya-bl4dc would you prefer the crispy king?
@Papaya-bl4dc There are lots of shared voice actors, like akihiko is the same voice as Yuri, Elizabeth is Edelgard, Kenji is Claude, Jin is Dimitri and I forgot the rest but there are more
The fact that the biggest question i had during this was why didnt he crucify the dog too 🤣
Ikutsuki's VA popped off
Yeah he sounds like an absolute psychopath during this scene
@anawesomeblaze559 I'm gonna be honest here, this whole scene was his best performance, in my opinion
17:13 - 17:17 bro thinks he’s Light Yagami
Hey Light, what's Yagami spelled backwards
Oh that's easy Youragay
I don’t know if anyone else commented on this, but I just love at 16:30 when Makoto goes over to Aigis and makes sure she’s okay/ comforts her. I think it’s really sweet.
Mitsuru's performance in the scene of her father's death is really damn good. The pure emotion from her voice in that scene, it legit sounded like Allegra Clark watched someone she cared about die right in front of her. Amazing performance right there!
Junpei and akihiko should be a comedy duo
They should both become cops tbh, Akihiko can be the bad cop/serious one while Junpei is good cop/goofy one lol.
@@theimpersonator7086 one of them did
16:39 WAS THAT THE BITE OF 87?!
Nah. It was the bite of 09.😅
I never realized it before, but the premise for Persona 3 is basically the epilogue of SMT Nocturne if there was an intervention.😮
Really? How so?
@@marcthomas4488i haven't played nocturne in a while but from what i remember, the entire world gets erased at the start of the game, and in p3 if they didn't seal nyx the world would've ended
Mitsuru's father, who sacrificed himself to kill a maniac, Fuuka: not a single word
Ikutsuki aka the maniac dies pathetically: "Ikutsuki-san"
Its a shame they took out the original sebec Lietmotif when ikutsuki falls
17:10 just got massive Prototype 2 Alex Mercer vibes
If you get it you’re awesome
Wow. This new version gave me goosebumps 🤯
THAT EMOTION IN MITSURU!!! it was actually beautifully to the character
Somehow they made him even more creepy and deranged
I dont know why but Atlus seems to love Villains who are Nihilistic. But to a certain Point at least every Person did think one Time in that Line of Thougt. Its like Adachi in Persona 4 each Person in the World could become easily like him. Reminds me always on Jokers Quote: All it needs to break a Person is one bad Day. It just needs to be the most terrible Day you ever had.
now i want Adachi become more "revised" too in P4R
i accidently skipped it so i came to yt to watch it. the while time i kinda felt my heart pumping wasn't expecting ikutski to be evil
I'd say Recarm, but you know how it is with cutscene deaths in video games...
pretty recarm/samarecarm can only revive incapacitated people (knocked out, unconcious), not dead people
Couldn't reach their evokers, wasn't possible to save him.
I’m pretty sure recarm can only revive people who gets knocked out, I’m not too sure it can revive the dead
When a teamate "dies" in battle they get knocked out cold, they dont die yet, thats why actual bullet injuries actually kill off 2 characters in P3
12:14 Honestly, that should've become a boss fight like with Chidori, also personally I think there should be a fight with Ikutsuki, with him having a Persona
Yeah,ikutsuki spending ten years to initiate the fall,there is no way he didnt find a way to make safe artificial persona. In p5 we know that adult person can have persona too as long as they have will of rebellion (zenkichi and maruki)
But the story creator didnt got too creative and just make the same plot as P3 Vanilla 😅
i just realized that P3 still have more of that megaten DNA than other modern Persona series (4&5). With overall darker theme, and with this "the Fall" to bring about a new world, that's pretty similar to the mainline SMT's although not as extreme as them. Maybe that's why story and plotwise i have always thought that P3 is the best of them all, P4 strong points are in the social links for me and the mystery solving parts are much more riddling than 5 ever was, as for P5 for me it's the designs of dungeons, the replication of Tokyo, and the gameplay mechanics. But now that the mechanics are perfected in P3R, it is safe to say that Persona 3 are the best one in the series.
All of the games in the modern Persona series have their variation, or iteration, of the Fall. All of the games have this darker sense.
@@diez5778 on second thought, you're right. 4 with the fog caused by Izanami connecting the two worlds, and yeah all that god shit with 5. I guess it was because the overall brighter concept of those 2 that made me have this perception
Social links in Persona 4 were meh outside the Investigation Team. Playing P3 made me realize it really only had like 2-3 meh SLs and everyone else was really interesting and were just held back by the lack of voice acting and assets back in the day.
My god mitsuru’s voice actor KILLED IT, it feels like genuine crying
Wait until you hear the Japanese dub
@@Slayrron.Hunternah English did it better
When I started playing this game, I thought the betrayal was because the chairman was Jin. I was wrong, but I liked the twist anyway because I did not expect it like that. Persona always keeps you on your toes.
door kun 😢 i love him so much
Was I the only person who saw it coming since the start of the game
Nope, I played Persona 5 Royal and Strikers before this. Had a bad feeling right from the start that he was a twist villain. I hate that I was right though, I liked Shuji and his puns. Hopefully not every Persona game has a twist villain…it’s getting repetitive 😅
@@IronSeagull does he know
@@djamil_ssb Adachi: true!
Oh do we miss you door-kun
Not gonna lie I just beat Persona 3 FES and this whole time I thought Ikutsuki and Tayaka where the same person
I’m so glad I’m not the only one who thought that they where related in some way
Its weird to see how they got rid of the Persona 1 leitmotif in reload
The fact that Aigis was almost forced to kill a man sends a chill up my spine lol
A man, several teenagers, a fooking child...
Can’t wait till I can get this game for myself
Gamepass my brother
@@fabiocetrulo4462 I’m on PS
Reload is my first experience of P3 and I’ve got to say, Cruxifixction was not on my list of things to expect
PLAYED LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE
'WHOOOOOO?!'
Question cuz I'm not sure if the game actually clarifies this...
Does this mean that Ikutsuki also knew about Death being sealed away inside Makoto from the start? And that him awakening to his persona is what started the return of the 12 shadows? Or did he not and he just grossly misunderstood how Death would return? Like, did sacrificing Mitsuru's father even have any effect on Ryoji's arrival or would he have still turned up anyway?
I thought he might have known from the start, cuz it would make sense if he probed Aigis' memories of fighting Death to prevent her from revealing his plans. I also remember there being a suspicious early game interaction that made Ikutsuki sound as if he deliberately tampered w Makoto's dorm plans. But idk. This whole scene is just a bit weird to me.
Okay I'm trying to answer your question with my own interpretation of these events, since I don't think it's ever explicitly stated.
1. Ikutsuki knowing about Death inside Makoto.
I think he didn't knew since the beginning, I think he knew when Thanatos killed the Magician Arcana. His surprise seemed genuine.
2. Death and it's return.
So I do think he knew about the significance and correlation between Thanatos and the Shadows.
3. Sacrifice of Mitsurus father.
Okay heres my crack theory about this whole ordeal. I'm not sure if the sacrifice of him actively brought Ryoji into the normal world.
BUT I do think that his sacrifice had a role. There's something I noticed about Thanatos' design. It has 8 "coffins", or something akin to it, on a chain. And there were 8 planned sacrifices present in this scene. The father of Mitsuru and everyone of SEES (besides Koromaru obv). And I personally do believe that Mitsurus Dad was a somewhat improvised sacrifice and that his place was supposed to be filled by Aragaki. But since he passed away... Well he had to improvise.
3. Ikutsuki knowing from the start.
I can imagine him knowing about Death being sealed away in someone. Maybe he'd tamper with everyones dorm plan that fit the bill of the information he has. Idk his surprise of seeing Thanatos just seemed so genuine so eh.
Oh and about Ryojis return. I think there's more to this whole sacrifice ordeal. Maybe this would've sped up Nyx' return, or that he wanted to "awaken" Thanatos/Ryoji on his own terms, to either use Thanatos/Ryoji or maybe to somehow become Nyx' Avatar himself?
I don't think he grossly misunderstood, but wanted to turn everything into his own favor
Huh makoto on a cross hmm
Our Lord and Saviour Hinges Christ
@@user-oy6zi2rl9r messiah of rizz
@@user-oy6zi2rl9ryou outta pocket for that shit …. Way outta pocket
Ikutsuki dont really know how to handle a Gun. Plus he was shocked for a Moment so his Aim actually should missed Mitsurus Dad. And not been that deadly.
Aww they removed the p1 bad ending theme from his death, that sucks
I agree
I had known about this betrayal before playing - I didn’t own a PlayStation so I couldn’t play any of the games aside from p4g so I watched the movie - but even after playing this game, seeing everyone on the crosses felt very disturbing to me
This is lovely
17:15
"I'm going to be god of the new world!"
Ahem, sir your not Light Yagami or Kira
How did Koromaru manage to escape from Aigis? 16:33
Thanks for not specifying whose betrayal it was in the title, in case it gets recommended to someone who hasn’t gotten that far in the game.
Aw, they removed the Persona 1 chime
Yeah, it's sad(
Does anyone know the name of the song that kicks in when you're talking to Ikutski?
There is absolutely no way she'd have ever been able to defeat SEES let alone the Protagonist. She's weak to Zio and is going up against several enemy Persona users at once. Only a couple Zios from Akihiko Ken or Makoto would've incapacitated her easily. This whole scene makes zero sense.
If she's really unlucky makoto will have reflect gub
@@Cats_on_fire True. This is just bad writing. 😭
At that point she probably was quick enough to take their evokers and make them useless
@@artur_bispo She got one shotted by Ryoji Mochizuki who was holding back. I know that was her going all out. She didn't seem that fast at all then.
@@ClearmindArtist It's because Ryoji wasn't at his full form when they first fought and he made that clear, when aigis found ryoji again in his true form with all the shadows defeated he got his full power back, power enough to subdue aigis without even moving
Makoto: Wait about Sho?
what?
Sho Minazuki.
Makoto:
T
👁️ 👄 👁️
Anyone with and chi or ki at the end in persona is a bad guy 😂
14:48 Thanos meme
As much as i love how strict they follow the Original Events. I would loved to see Ikutsuki getting Loaded with Lot of Bullets from Aigis and the Impact when he hits the Ground. Or just a Arrow from Yukari for both using her and her Father and it would been a good Setup for later talking to Mitsuru and bringing her Back to her Senses.
😮
If I had a nickel for characters Grant George voiced that died in Persona 3 I’d have two nickels.
I swear the casting choice was on purpose.
thank you youtube algorithm for spoiling for persona 3
really appreciate it
Why Am I getting Christian vibes at 12:29?😬
Yeah i wonder why
As a Christian, this was pretty messed up.
We STILL don't get to actually fight him?
he's weak, the only part he didn't lie about is he really didn't have a persona
It wouldn’t be much of a fight
Why would we? He doesn't have the potential, and Aigis is right there
It’s been established he does not possess the potential, how tf do you want them to fight him
@@jaxingoff6245
1) Have him secretly have a Persona. Wouldn't be the first time he lied.
2) Have the super-teenagers beating up some nerd is funny.
....
Again, I'm so confused. Why does your copy lack proper lip syncing in the cutscenes when I've seen others that do, like this one?
th-cam.com/video/v9CbmvhH_Uc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2TJv1rgzcETXfrRi
if there's one thing i like about Reload despite finding it really mid it's Ikutsuki.
don't get me wrong, i love his original potrayal of a goofy psychopath but i absolutely adore this utterely unhinged potrayal.
One thing I realized about the remake is how bad the voice direction is. The OG would have nailed these scenes
Lol on the contrary I have a thing for multicultural music and with my expensive headphones I notice every instrument present... It takes an open mind to understand that the voice work is weak @Zenhunter141
@@lunurai1693 Lmfao what the fuck? Whatever man hahahaha
You are out of your mind if you actually think this
Seasoned Unique VAs >>>> New Generic Sounding VAs. I understand if your ears are used to bad dubbing though. @@oppaireviews2284
@@lunurai1693 troll or not this is some comically pretentious ass dialogue 😭 "yeah guys i can hear every single wave of sound with my ultra high end awesome headphones, i am the MASTER of sound..."