Warlord Games Epic Battles Waterloo/Napoleonic Project Vlog 5
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- Warlord Games Epic Battles Waterloo/Napoleonic Project Vlog 5
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Please, please, please do a play-through vid when you get there. Don't want much do I? Love your stuff. Tc hombre.
I’ve got some battle report plans for later in the year, I’ll start small, but would like to do ones for both larger scenarios I’m planning. Now wether I’ve painted both starter sets this year is a bigger question 😅😂
Great to see your plans for the Waterloo part of your project. I’ve often thought of doing something similar, and I think that’s the best bit of the battlefield to choose. The classic attack by D’Erlon, and the repulse by Picton followed by the Union Brigade. Brilliant stuff! 👍.
Thank you 😊
That was my thinking, a really nice mix of many different kinds of combat during the day. Massed columns, cavalry charge, counter cavalry charge, fighting around a building. Just hope I can squeeze it on the table 😂
Terrain's looking well sexy btw, experiencing a mild spod on. V V good paint job, the weathering is bob on.
Thank you 😊
Excellent!!
Thank you 🙂
Another good update, sorry to hear about the Covid, but at least it wasn't too serious! Those officers are ace and I'm very much behind you doing more build/painting videos. Cheers for the mention and clarifying what you think la Haye Saint is capable of on the table. I am definitely thinking of getting one at some point... I like the planning for D'Erlons attack as well, I am more in favour of historical OOBs rather than some number crunching with a points list.
Thank you Alex 😊
I’ll be setting my table slightly further East with Le Haye Sainte being just off the Western side of the table and indicated by a couple of walls. Apart from that we’ll be doing similar units; 5th and 8th KGL are done as are 6th Dragoons and Scots Greys.
I have the old GW grass cloth mat so all my terrain revolves around that. I’ve had it years and it’s still going strong.
I used to have one of those, wish I ever got rid of it, they were great.
Great video Stuart,really liking la hate Saint
Thank you 😊
Great vid Stew! That black line you drew around that section of Waterloo is SUPER helpful in visualizing an idea of how much you can get on a table comfortably. I assume you are drawing what is meant to be a 4 x 6 table around that area? I missed whether or not you mentioned that. But it would make sense. Looks like in this scale you can a fairly decent chunk of Waterloo onto a 4 x 6. Same approach I use for Epic Scale when doing Gettysburg on a 4 x 6. You can get the entire center of the battlefield onto a 4 x 6, or you can get the town of Gettysburg proper and the hills just to the east and south (Cemetery and Culp's). Or you can do the southern section of the field with everything from the angle at the stone wall down to the Round Tops.
It's what I love about this scale. You also picked a good section of the battle for the table, since you've got that nifty four-way junction with the roads, with some buildings thrown in for good measure.
Great stuff, keep up the good work!
Thank you Mike.
Yeah it’s a loose 6x4, I’ve just eyeballed it, I’ve not worked out any ground scale at all. If I tried to match the scale of La Haye Sainte it would be a much smaller area, so loads of abstraction, and it might be a squeeze to get it all on, but it will be fun and that’s the most important part for me.
Great video
Thank you Michael
I am up to my elbows in Flames of War paratroopers right now but I keep looking at the stack of epic Napoleonic boxes on the shelf behind me. One more month and Adepticon is over and I can rip the plastic off of them 😀
Yes not long now, hopefully your preparation is going well. Tanks are nearly done, will be ready to ship in the next day or so.
Interesting to see how you're doing this- done much the same thing for a number of ACW battles.
I very much enjoy this approach, I’ve also done the same for my own Epic ACW project.
I'm just viewing a picture of the lane south of Papelotte Farm . Its an enclosed canopy of overgrown Hedgerows( think a W shape with path in middle). So mark it down as limited width to travel down , impossible to cross width ways unless skirmishing Infantry losing 2 moves and disordered
Thank you
By my calculation you just might be able to it everything on a 6 x 4 table. After most of Bylandt's brigade fell back Picton's seven battalions were in a single line (presumably each battalion was four deep given the frontage they occupied). The two brigades were separated, but the gap was partially filled by the 7th Belgian line. Therefore, 8 battalions each occupying about 5" of frontage (two stands wide by two deep) would probably occupy about 4' of frontage - leaving 2' for the West side of the road.
Yeah it’s a squeeze, but that was my calculation too. I’ll have to think about the way I represent the 4 deep line, as putting the stands in two lines is the ‘in game formation’ for attack column, but there’s lots of ways of doing that, even if it’s just removing stands and adding them back if the formation changes, or still keeping them two deep, but leaving half and inch/1 cm gap.
In Black Powder troops that can form four deep line cannot form attack column, so there shouldn't be any confusion. This seems to apply to British trained troops only - although there is no mention of Hanoverians forming 4 deep line. Personally, I would allow it.
That’s a good point, I might still try and do something different to make it more visually pleasing, but for game terms you’re spot on.
@@MiniatureRealms Yeah there are a few formations introduced by the supplements that get difficult when using 4 stands per battalion, even more so if you need to be down to 3. Pondered this long and hard with various options we were considering using 15-18mm figures (also 4 bases per battalion) and, IIRC, I decided to use a T type formation (2 in line at the front with 2 in column behind and in the centre of them) to differentiate between 4 deep line and Attack Column. The same principle for Cavalry Deep Formation, another supplement rule, not sure if that one features in the A5 rule books. Neither would be used often I suspect but handy when terrain limits the standard line formation, the reason deep line was used IRL.
There is also closed vs open square. I plan to use a standard square layout for open square and for closed square I'll have basically a column of 4 stands, front two facing forward and rear two facing the rear.
Some good thoughts here, it’s something I’ve been pondering, and have a few ideas I’m going to cover in a future vlog.
Great update (this is Ade BTW - profile update LOL). At one point, while STILL waiting for my stuff to arrive I did ponder just sticking to the standard base sizes for sake of ease but, as we plan to play Bataille Empire and General d'armed too, decided to stick with the half width base sizes. Bonus of course is that I end up with more than enough units to do the whole of D'Erlon's Corps along with several heavy cavalry regiments. The British / Allied I'll also be able to do pretty much all of I and II Corps along with almost the entire Reserve division. As I will have so many I'm thinking of using 6 stands for large battalions, 4 for standard and 2-3 for small. 2 would be better on the OCD front (2, 4, & 6 etc.) but 2 maybe a bit too small. It will give me some use for all the extra Highlander battalions I'll be left with (e.g. I'll have 6 not 3). Will have to check if there were more kilted Highlanders in the Peninsular than the 3 at Waterloo.
Thank you Ade 😊
Your plan sounds pretty good to me. I still have something nagging about maybe splitting the command stand on mine, reducing the frontage but still being able to easily form square, but then I remember I’m very likely just sticking with BP, so there’s other ways around this. I think I’ll probably cover some of my potential ideas on that in a future vlog.
@@MiniatureRealms My main concern with splitting the command stands is that I'd be left with 10 battalions from each starter without commands, plus there would be the line Rifle battalions. That problem is fairly easily resolved though given I can use either Minifigs or buy one of the very good Epic size battalion STLs and just print the command stands. The STLs IIRC are only $20-30 but then I'd have to pay for the printing and I'm not sure how durable the resin will be at that size. I'll cost it out using Minifigs / postage vs STL / printing. If the costs are not too far apart Minifigs would be my preferred option I think. In addition, while the STL may be more cost effective for standard battalions it would be much less so for the Rifles.
That’s understandable. I’m hoping a 3d printing will solve some of these issues soon.
Great vid again. Followed your lead by picking a section. French II Corp 5th Div/ 2nd cav Div/ III Cav Corp 11/12 Div against British I Corp 1 and 3rd Div/ Cav Corp 5th Cav brigade, and as a treat Household Cav. Most fought at Quatre Bras as well but researching has been great fun so great advice against. Many thanks.
Thank you for watching, so glad to hear that they’re helping. Love the sound of your plans.
Great minds think alike just did my first head swap,also done my first French battalion +cannon,105st regiment (5&6 on your map) 4 more battalions primed
That’s awesome, I may have to invite you to command the French then 😂
The commander base looks fantastic! Love the idea of a simple head swap just to have an adjutant type figure. I also like the idea of the road set. As much as I’d love to create my own terrain, slogging through these army boxes will take far longer than anticipated and I’m all for a high quality alternative to save time.
Thank you Matt. It’s a very simple conversion like you said, I did the same for the British, and have done so for the Epic ACW range too - just helps a little with when there’s only one pose.
My road and river sets have arrived, a review video should be out sometime this week I hope.
@@MiniatureRealms that’s great! Can’t wait to see how’s those look. As you’ve said, it’s hard to appreciate the quality from the images on their website. But I am very interested in how they look
It’s all recorded and edited, will get it uploaded and out sometime this week.
Are you making a valley across the board from LaHaye Sainte and the steep incline to the Smohain road ?
Yes I’ll be adding an incline, there’s the start of it there when I did the overhead shot for the table layout, but you can’t see it from the angle (it’s all under the mat).
Got the French sprue with the latest Wargames Illustrated. Hopefully start painting them up today. Can I paint the greatcoat infantry as line infantry or are they specifically light infantry? 🤔
Also I need to ask myself do I need another Napoleonic scale? Currently have 6mm Grumbler, 10mm Pendraken, Some original 18mm CGM , 20mm Newline designs. While I like the Newline range I'm not a fan of all the mold lines on some of the figures and horses.
They can definitely be used as line or light, whichever suits. You’ve definitely got a lot of scales covered there, so in many ways you possibly don’t need more. But in the other hand, add Epic, 28mm and 54mm and you’ve got the full set! 😂 …and more toys is never a problem right? 🤣
@@MiniatureRealms one can never have enough scales in Napoleonics.
Seen something recently; it might have been a Warlord Games email, on how to convert/paint British infantry as Belgians and French as Dutch and Nassau. Have you seen it? Or recall who wrote the article. Only skimmed over it and wouldn't mind reading it properly. Cheers
I wish I could link it for you, but TH-cam tends to auto delete comments with links. It’s on their Community blog I believe, it’s by Alister Dare, and he gives loads of great examples.
Your Epic vlogs are dangerous. I am trying to hold out on Epic unless my wished-for British Civil Wars make an appearance, but I find myself weakening over the American Civil War and all this cool painting, tweaking, customising, and scenario building for epic scale lines are not strengthening my resolve man!
😂 I really wouldn’t be surprised if Epic ECW wasn’t next, but who knows could be anything, the only thing that would surprise me would be if there was no new epic box announced next Nov/Dec.
What size circular base did you put those two French commanders on?
They’re 40mm 🙂
@@MiniatureRealms
Thank you. I plan on ordering 60x30mm bases for my cavalry, and wanted to order command bases at the same time
No problem at all. I buy the round ‘small lipped’ bases from Warlord (the ones you see with Bolt Action), I get a multipack with 25/30mm? (Can’t remember which you get) and 50mm in as well. I use the 50mm with 3+ models on for Generals and personalities, the 40mm with 2+ on for Brigade commanders, and plan to use the smaller ones for single commanders/ADC’s which may come in handy.
This won’t help much though if you’re just ordering mdf all from one place though.
Fun stuff.
What tools did you use for the headswap?
Just a scalpel and plastic glue for this one.
@@MiniatureRealms nice and simple. I will give it a try. seems like we get spare officers in the starter sets, so the risk is low :)
Absolutely, unless you’re using them as regimental colonels then there’s loads spare.
@@MiniatureRealms I'm contemplating basing a few of the mounted officers on 15mm wide x 30mm bases to place in the middle or at the end of a few of the 1st Battalion units, along with the Eagles just to give them a slightly more impressive look.
Funnily enough I’ve been thinking of something similar, and I’m mulling over a few ideas that all get linked to representing formations.