Firing Mike Vrabel Was The Worst Move The Titans Could Have Done | Pat McAfee Show
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I have confidence in Vrabel no matter where he goes. Never heard a player say a bad thing about him. Players love him.
HOF linebacker and even better coach
Much like Tomlin
@@majormarketing6552HOF LB is crazy but great coach
Except David Long, Brain Orakpo, Dean Peas, etc etc.
Hires his boys for the coaching staff instead of the best coordinators available.
And can we also see how since he’s been a coach, the amount of injuries this team has had are ridiculous.
Titanup
I can tell u know nuttin bout the titans
absolutely crazy move
Id take Vrabel on my squad any day . Guy is a leader
As a Vikings fan I agree. Hopefully we can draft good and reconquer NFC north
Him leaving before tannehill is insane 😭
I think he'll wind up in NE, and back on his feet in short order.
@@zackhurwitz9441 seems inevitable now but also rumours Mayo will be looked at seriously
@@Rowsy91 he should, Mayo definitely has potential. I just vrabel is a more proven version of him.
This era is definitely in the presence of falling apart especially because Sunday’s 28-20 win over the Jaguars was also possibly Derrick Henry’s final game as a Titan! This team can literally do nothing wrong except give up on star-studded coaches and players!
IT is great to see JJ anytime he is on . Thank you , Pat. The owners are losing it. Mike played at the highest level, coaches at a very high level . Owners dwell at a low level. I would love to see him and Derrick with the Pat's, but ........ Owners. Am I right ? the fans deserve this, and the Krafts can do anything.
Reminds me when Durant, Westbrook, and Harden were at OK 😒
No way Henry is returning now with vrabel gone
Try being a panthers fan.. we give away anyone worth much
@@codydellinger5620 try being a Vikings fan
I loved having Vrabel as the Titans coach, but the last thing JJ said about great coaches identifying and enhancing the staff was part of his leaving I think. When opportunities presented themselves for him to hire established proven coaches under him or his guys he chose his guys. His guys were terrible.
So true!
Arthur Smith wasnt but I fully agree other than that. We gotta open up the offense and I dont think he was up for it
@@cameron3196neither was Matt Lefluer before Arthur Smith. Most coaches only accept jobs with people they have history with. Vrabel isn't a Belichick coach, but he's obviously from that tree, and he's the most successful of Bill's lineage. I think he'll wind up in NE, and back on his feet in short order.
@@zackhurwitz9441 Vrabel is not from Bill's tree, Vrabel never served on Bill's staff, yes, he played for him, but that does not make him part of the BB tree. Vrabel is from the Bill O'Brien tree as he served as LB coach and DC in Houston before being hired on as HC for TN. Ryans played for Gary Kubiak, but you never hear anyone say he is from Kubiak's tree, because he is from Kyle Shannahans tree.
@@Robjohnson2320 he runs the same scheme he learned under Belichick. If anything, demeco comes from the saleh tree, as a defensive coach. Same with vrabel and Belichick. I also said that vrabel never coached under Belichick, but he did under Romeo Cronell, who did.
I mean… the titans have an aging qb and a rookie qb, an aging rb with a lot of mileage and their top WR is past his prime.. and their defense is alright..imo very few coaches if any would have had a better record with this team. Not a titans fan but idk that the coaching was the issue lol
@@Ericrawnsleylmao that was the old GM who got fired immediately after the eagles game. If you don’t know what you’re talking about please stop talking 😂
@wingzero1372 man you must be so damn perfect. I make a mistake talking about something and your reaction isthat when you wouldnt dare talk to someone like that in person but you het behind a keyboard and all of a sudden your the most badass person you know. Your sorry as hell,
We just needed an offensive line. Not a whole rebuild. Our defense was the #1 end zone defense.
Titans just wants a west coast offense. It isn’t in the Titans bloodline. Baltimore Ravens know who they are as they are mimicking the 2000 Ravens.
@@christopherthedude12765 yeah honestly im kinda just on the outside looking in on it cuz i only watched a few of their games. I actually think they have some good offensive young pieces too who just need some time to grow and would likely get that opportunity next year. Just from a distance it seems like the coaching wasnt exactly the issue but you’d prob know better than me. Good luck to yall next year tho hopefully whoever you get next will turn things around
They fired him so they could hire Matt Canada
As a Titans fan it’s getting harder an harder to support the franchise with dumb ass decisions they make. Henry & Vrabel should be retiring in TN, but yet again we screw it up
Welcome to the life of a Cleveland Browns fan for the last 20 years, now it's your turn to take a seat at the back of the bus for a little while, Go Browns Baby!!!!!
Vrabel, yes. Henry, no. Henry’s contract was an albatross and the contract he’s going to sign will backfire on anyone who signs it.
@@blank-vj1mc Henry is retiring (maybe)
@@TheodoreBrosevelt No he isn’t lol
@@blank-vj1mc oh my bad, didn't know you knew him personally
He's a good coach but the assistant coaches that he personally hired all around him were just not cutting it altogether.
This guy watches Titans football.. as great of a leader as he is, the failures has his fingerprints all over it
Hence the reason he was let go. He's a good coach but not a good judge of Coordinator talent.
Spot on.
Well, no matter who hires who as a coach/coordinator, you still need a GM that actually puts good talent on the team. Vrabel got fired for things like Robinson essentially trading A.J. Brown for Treylon Burks.
more importantly, he was pushing back at the idea of a real rebuild. It took an injured Tannehill for Levis to see the time of day...
Doesnt feel good to be fired but that was one of the best outcomes for Vrabel. Gets paid out, no longer has to deal with the Titan's GM, & gets to find the job that he likes
I’d laugh my ass off if Vrabel end up in New England and Belichick is who the Titans are trying to get. That would have been the one move that would have saved them money. Unless they actually think Tomlin is leaving Pittsburgh (He Isn’t) and they wanna go after him.
I'd love to see Tomlin at the Titans, mostly so he would no longer be destroying my Steelers than anything benefit that would bring to the Titans. Hell, I'd have swapped him straight up for Vrabel in a heartbeat.
@@Orxbane Agreed. Tomlin was given a SuperBowl winning team and it's under-performed ever since. I really don't know if all the blame can be leveled at Mike's feet...but for sure some of the blame must rest on his shoulders. Hiring OC's that suck...then keeping them even though they've proven to suck might be a good place to start laying blame.
Lots of people here obviously haven't paid attention to the reports of Vrabel's relationship with the team over the past 2 years as well as the significant majority of his coaching hires over his tenure, and lack of willingness to fire said coaches for poor performances keeping them for up to 5 years in one case. Vrabel was asked by ownership mid season if the rumors about him wanting to go to New England were true, and he didn't deny them. He also suggested that the team hire someone to be over the new GM so he could go over his boss' head when he disagreed with him. The last straw was that in their post-season meeting ownership and GM laid out multiple options for directions they may to move for next year considering they'll have a very young team, and Vrabel rejected all of them. Then proceeded to tell both ownership and the GM how to do their jobs. This was not the first instance of Vrabel doing this, so he got fired.
I don't know about you guys, but if I owned a company and an employee of mine would fail to fire those under him for poor performance, and then on multiple occasions would try and tell me how to do my job, often yelling at me while doing so, I'd fire them too.
Another detail that won't get mentioned is on multiple occasions Vrabel has stripped play-calling duties from his defensive coordinator in game, and in every instance the defense performed worse afterward. Doesn't sound like too big of a deal except that one of these instances was when Vrabel took play-calling duties away from Dean Peas when the Titans were up 3 scores on the Chiefs in the playoffs, and the Titans went on to lose that game.
Vrabel is a good football coach, but he wants total control of the organization, and the Titans didn't want that structure. Especially since before this new GM got there the Titans were using next to no analytics in scouting opponents, draft scouting, and all other facets of football operations. Titans have been playing 2005 football on and off the field in the 2020s, and Amy wants to modernize the front office. Vrabel wasn't on board, so they showed him the door
Texans fan so I pay attention to the division. This is all news to me, thanks for sharing.
@@ericparker163 then you also might remember that Vrabel wasn't the most successful in his role when he was there in Houston. Coincidentally, one of the ideal coaching hires for Tennessee would be the Texans current OC
@@Jayhawk92 The defense got worse when he took over as DC, and noticeably so. I don't think Slowik is going anywhere anytime soon. At least I hope not, this year has been special. Shout out to yall for handling the Jags.
@@ericparker163 exactly, Vrabel is a great strategist, but a poor play-caller with a massive ego. I know Slowik is being mentioned a lot about being a head coach candidate, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's leaving this off-season. And you're welcome.
Texans might experience what the Titans have experienced over the past 6 years of having a defensive head coach, every time the OC does great they get hired away to be head coaches. Titans lost Matt Lafleur and Artie Smith as soon as they were good
@@Jayhawk92 Yeah, still, not every guy is meant to be a head coach and for Slowik, CJ has to be hard to leave behind. The guy's a generational player at QB. There's only so many of them out there.
Anyone else taken back by JJ’s ability to explain exactly, in detail, what makes a great coach? That was awesome. Dude should be doing seminars for companies like Jocko
Seahawks need to jump on this hire lmao
The Titans are so stupid, they got rid of AJ Brown Instead of Tannehill now they get rid of Mike
Connor was big time wrong about vrabel going to the pats
Vrabel only wanted to hire yes men, surrounded his self with yes men. The more power Vrabel had, the worse the coaching staff became and the worse the team became. Vrabel has an ego like he is a 10x SB winning coach and he just isnt.
the truth
Chargers honesty makes so much sense bc he could bring in a GM he wants too
Yeah it's 100 percent the best move to make. Not a bad QB either 😊
The subtle change in JJ's face when Pat says Houston Oilers lol
Yes Norby, whatever you say Norby. No more Aaron, Norby. SELLAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHT
BREAKING! Pat McAfee OUT as being a man after one season with ESPN!
Sell Out!!
Let everyone take notice - what JJ said at the end of this video is pure Gold - what he listed as to what makes a great coach is not only applicable to the NFL, but to all sports and literally all companies that exist - great leadership is truly hard to come by. Excellent point Mr. Watt.
Andy Reid used to take a ton of flak as being a bad coach. How has that changed with time? Vrabel was overrated as a coach. Team fell apart under his watch and some will state it was all due to injuries and players traded away but why were those traded away players all of a sudden productive on their new teams? Vrabel may be a good individual and players love him but his system failed when they had their chance.
Andy Reid used to take a ton of flak as being a bad coach. How has that changed with time? Vrabel was overrated as a coach. Team fell apart under his watch and some will state it was all due to injuries and players traded away but why were those traded away players all of a sudden productive on their new teams? Vrabel may be a good individual and players love him but his system failed when they had their chance.
Andy Reid used to take a ton of flak as being a bad coach. How has that changed with time? Vrabel was overrated as a coach. Team fell apart under his watch and some will state it was all due to injuries and players traded away but why were those traded away players all of a sudden productive on their new teams? Vrabel may be a good individual and players love him but his system failed when they had their chance.
Andy Reid used to take a ton of flak as being a bad coach. How has that changed with time? Vrabel was overrated as a coach. Team fell apart under his watch and some will state it was all due to injuries and players traded away but why were those traded away players all of a sudden productive on their new teams? Vrabel may be a good individual and players love him but his system failed when they had their chance.
Andy Reid used to take a ton of flak as being a bad coach. How has that changed with time? Vrabel was overrated as a coach. Team fell apart under his watch and some will state it was all due to injuries and players traded away but why were those traded away players all of a sudden productive on their new teams? Vrabel may be a good individual and players love him but his system failed when they had their chance.
The most unlikely event to happen would actually the one i wish for: Vrabel to the Panthers
I'm not sure just like my team the Bears if the Panthers franchise is that forward thinking. As a Bears I hoped we could get Vrabel or Jim Harbaugh. We keep Matt Eberflus. Still hope for the Panthers though.
we know that vrabes is a good coach, it's just that what he wants and what we need are different. we should have blown the team up after losing to the bengals, but vrabel wanted to retool and try again when that isn't what we need. i wish him the best and thank him for everything.
Get off of ESPN Pat!
great definition of a premier couch at the end there
Ty's "dang it" 😂
This will end up being a worse decision than trading AJ Brown. Titans have horrific ownership.
Your wrong! Trust me I'm titans fan. I actually watch our games
He kept hiring his buddies to be coordinators and assistant coaches and they all sucked. He refused to fire them either. He was his own downfall
Why keep him!? His team has been on the downslide for the past few years and he's done a poor job of adjusting. Why is everyone so surprised that he got the ax!?
Would like to see Vrabel incorporated somewhere on the lions. He always seemed like a toned down version of what Dan Campbell is now. Seems like he’d fit right in with the organization
Yeah I bet you would like that 😂
Sadly he’s definitely going to be a HC somewhere if he doesn’t rejoin with the Patriots. But I’d put a return to a non-HC job at like +4500
Firing Aaron Rodgers was the worst move the Pat McAfee show could have made.
wait what? are you serious?
Pat showed his true colors...yellow. He's a fraud. Hope you finally woke up to what he is now.
Crazy Coaching carousel!!!!
I don't know why would the pat mcafee show fire aaron rogers?
Fox News over heard spreading false info
As a Raiders fan, I was all in on bringing Pierce back, but I would takes Vrabs over AP right now. Bring AP back as Def coordinator for experience.
Hopefully you guys ride with Pierce unless you get Vrabel. Otherwise it's like letting go of Rich Bisacci again after he made the playoffs in 2021
Hopefully you all get Vrabel then, because I’d love Pierce with the Titans
Listened to a ex-sports suit intimate that he was too simple for the way the owner wanted to go. Savage take.
Boo for canceling on Rodgers. Disney sucks.
Rodgers is a con artist one Super Bowl and supposed to be top 3 Qb is laughable
9th in all time passing not the best in anyway
@@kingarcy36 cope and seethe
@@kingarcy36 stats dont lie
haven't scored 30 in 800 days,
1 division win in two years.
Refuses to change
Refuses to adapt to a modern day NFL Offense
His nuthuggers will say the roster wasn't good....he had a say on who they got ever since JRob left. He had a 1 seed with a skeleton crew so don't give me that.
Bottom 3 offense in 3 of his 6 years.
I mean, I’m no coach, but if I have to choose between letting tannehill sling it 30x/ game to all 1 of their talented receivers or feeding arguably the best back in the league I know what I’m doing lol. Team is thin on household names something bad
@@Sosaparks 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense will work against a bad or average team. Better teams will figure it out and kick you out the playoffs real quick regardless of how great your RB is...Henry is still good but has lost a step since his major injury a couple seasons ago. With the current state of this OL, Henry is better off going elsewhere.
@@Sosaparks Worse this season, he was overly loyal to Tannehill when Levis and Willis should have got most of the snap and just trade Tannehill last offseason or trading deadline...
Kraft loves Vrable, but he also supposedly promised Mayo the HC position after BB leaves.
Give Mayo a raise..hire. Rabel
Titans organization looked at his 6 years and asked the question "We've had 2 losing seasons. Do we still believe Vrabel is the guy who can right the ship and change the style of offensive play to the more modern - pass heavy league?" Honestly, I don't think the Titans organization got it wrong. Of course I also think there's more to being a HC then just being a players coach who happens to be well liked. It's part of the equation and Vrabels strength, but he's also stubborn, prone to hiring his boys, not making changes and a preference for stale football. Ya, maybe the GM gets to pick the players but it's your positional coaches, your coordinators and your choice in style of football.
I honestly believe Vrabel wanted out ever since they traded AJ when he was absolutely against it. This is typical of this franchise they make the most bone headed moves ever but want to raise prices on tickets and psl why would we pay to see mediocrity.
Vrabel to NE
Vrabel and Henry went out winner's as titans knocking rival out
Lost all my respect for McAfee after his Rogers comments and his show no longer hosting him.
Mike Vrabel is a great coach, but part of being a great coach is dealing with management and working together on a common goal, ownership fired the management and got in new management and yet the problems between Vrabel and Mangement still existed, i guess ownership looked at vrabel and said "buddy everywhere you look you see arseholes , ever think maybe your the Ahole?"
The owner of Titans could have seen the writing on the wall. Knew he was leaving for New England, and contractually it was a smart move to fire him.
Vrabels lack of hiring an OC to get the best from what we have was the issue. He rode with his buddies and the offense suffered. Yes he’s a good head coach but you can’t win a Super Bowl with his type of offensive game plan which is hope the defense shuts the other offense down.
Blame the GM for trading some of his elite players for pennys on the dollars
Or he got all his buddies that were good head coaching in the league and he doesn't have anymore buddies that are qualified enough to do that. So he promotes the ones he knows and trust and hopefully it works than to bring outsiders in he doesn't know for the same hopefull element outcome.
@@FreyjaValkyr That GM was fired at his request after the AJ Brown trade...he did not bother to try meeting Carthon halfway and make it work. He wanted his own team president that can overrule the GM any time he wanted. That will get you fired real quick in any corporate environment. LOL
I want to know if Pat said he was glad that he doesnt have to have Arod on anymore….he was bragging last year how Rodgers helped his show immensely and paid him a few hundred thousand dollars saying thank you and now you back stab him. Wow i will keep watching till i find out if Pat did say that crap and if so i will unfollow and never believe what comes out of his mouth. I wont let ESPN change my show! Buillshit
Want vrabel to come in as GM for NE until BB retires then vrabel takes over both roles
so you basically want the next 5+ years to look like the last 3 ...
The HC and GM shouldn't be the same person
The downfall of this season was not keeping A J Brown. They forget that after Derrick Henry was injured, the passing game stepped up and won a bunch of games they would not of won
Come to Chicago, we'd love to have him!
JJ Watt would make a really good coach
Life’s too short for corporate cheese Pat. Why you let them snip you like that, like a punk
Calm down bro.
The Titans had something going when they had Corey Davis and AJ Brown, went down hill when they let them both go, all of a sudden the offense was fully reliant on Henry and it got ugly
Henry's regression as well
The fact that Mike Vrabel got 6 wins with that roster, he at least deserved another 1-2 years he's a great coach and Tennessee kind of made a mistake letting him go and Derrick Henry needs to go to a better franchise where he can have a chance to get a ring
Real Titans fan here, it needed to be done for this team to evolve.
amen brother
Agreed. How many games without scoring 30 points?
700 something days @@jlove8241
Rocket Power shirt is epic
Just unsubscribed because of Pat McAfee banning Aaron Rodgers.
Bye.
Corporate Sell Aht
When pms went to ESPN they were confident nothing would change... ask yourself if they weren't at ESPN would aaron rodgers Tuesdays be over? Hope the deal with ESPN falls apart. Being on your own, fighting the powers that be are what made pat and the boys great.
Wasn’t Aaron Rogers Tuesday yesterday?
Well due to the fact that at the end of the regular season Aaron Rodgers Tuesdays has ended for 4 years now…I think you need to turn Fox News off
I’m a Texans fan and I was shocked by the Titans firing Vrabel. He’s an excellent coach and he always made the Titans over perform based on the talent of his roster. Personally I’m glad he’s gone because I think this makes the Titans significantly worse. This is why the Adams family sucks, they are awful owners and I’m glad they are gone. If I’m a Titans fan I’d be pissed about this.
Can we take a second to acknowledge watts badass rocket power shirt
I would not put it past an Adams to go cheap and hire a Matt Canada. So glad that franchise left Houston. The ownership was pathetic with Bud
It's gonna be a step backwards with whoever they hire next
You can’t take a step backwards when you’re at the bottom of the stairs
@@KOtheUltimateWeapon there were 6 teams with a worse record, Titans issues weren't with the coach it was with the worst offensive line assembled
@@Phartmonster1 o line was one problem n the Titans have many. Vrabel is a good Coach n can win no matter where he lands, just don’t see him winning a Super Bowl n pretty sure you never thought the Titans was gona win one either
@@KOtheUltimateWeapon they never will, no matter who coaches. If Derrick Henry had an o line the cowboys have they'd have a chance
@@Phartmonster1 Titans had one of the best O-lines in the NFL before and it got them nowhere
Love It Pat ThePatMcAfeeShow Bro Let's Gooooooooo.
Let's ask Aaron
Been bricked up the last 24hrs...is fahking crayyyyze
I think everyone is overrating vrabel. As someone who has watched every titans game I can say the decision making has been awful
I have respect for vrabel but he’s just not a good coach anymore
some of his coordinators choices were asinine...With Tim Kelly this season, his hand was forced for the offense to evolve. Thank God Levis had some real snaps this season and showed great potential moving forward...
Tannehill would have been back next season as a starter if it was up to Vrabel
When Vrabel went up there and spoke I knew he was done in TN. Sad cause we love him
Aaron said he was on the LIST !!!!!!!!!!!!!
NE will hire Mike Vrabel if they fire BB. A lot of teams will want to get Vrabel if they can.
Nope. The titans tried to trade his ass for a box of dunkin donuts. No takers.
@@ColtyyyyyyyyBill is out now, you wanna take it back? 😂
@@sunflwerchild I'm sorry, I missed the press conference the Patriots held about hiring Mike Vrabral. Vrabal had King Henry at his prime and couldn't make it to a Superbowl. You think Kraft wants that guy coaching the team? He's already promised the job to Mayo. Take the knot outta yer panties and chill.
@@sunflwerchild So Vrabral still isn't the coach of the Patriots right?
@@Coltyyyyyyyy cool I was wrong I ll admit it. Glad to see I’m living rent free in your head
At least the Panthers aren't the worst coaching situation out there.
It's the best move for the Titans.
You need an offensive minded coach to establish sustainability in todays league. You can't establish sustainability if your OC is leaving every 2 years. You would think that at minimum...the Titans defense would have been elite in Vrabel's tenure, but the stats dont lie. He might be perceived as a top 5 coach...but this is a bottom 5 roster with lack of creative playcalling on both sides of the ball.
waiting for Boston Connors reaction to the Pats going with Jerod Mayo as the new HC, Vrabel was not even interviewed from what I can see.
You won’t hear about the drama no more bc we will stop watching. Couldn’t believe the soulless words aspoused to ban a guest because he associated with predators is absurd free speech my big ol butt
The next Titans coach is not going to be willing to "sacrifice" what he was willing to!
how is nobody talking about JJs shirt???? Rocker Power is so under rated!
I use to love this show. Sad to see it bent over and fucked by woke ideology. Now it’s just another sports show on cable made up of puppets and cowards.
We found Aaron Rodgers burner!
WOKE HAD NOTHIN TO DO WITH PAT FIRING ROGERS
JJ with the Rocket Power shirt 🤙🏾🙌🏾
Someone get Alabama on the phone and hire that guy now.
At BWW w my gfs family and this was on ..her sister goes “Who is that guy?! He has no neck!!”
Me: “That’s AJ Hawk and he doesn’t”
Her: “it looks like he’s from..”
Me: “OHIO!”
vrabel to the seahawks would be a damn good move, that team with a old fashioned players coach, would be dangerous
Sounds like AP through and through!💯
Almost as nuts as McAfee cutting off his own balls and handing them over to ESPN execs and throwing Aaron Rodgers under the boss for cash.
This is why Josh McDaniels should never have a job as a HC again
Off topic but that rocket power shirt is fireeee 🔥🔥🔥
When people talk about the Titans and don't follow them😂😂😂 . His ass needed to go. Just don't miss Amy
Great example to set for your daughter
If JJ holds coaching staff importance so highly for a great coach, he will become less suprised of Vrabels firing. TERRIBLE coaching staff hires on his part, and an EGO that including stealing defensive play calling during the second half of the AFC Championship which ultimately lost them the game.
Hopefully he goes to the hawks
Ive witnessed some1 get fired n destroy the whole entire store on the way out .cant lie .. it was 1 of the most entertaining things ive seen in my life
Nobody gonna talk about that shirt Watt has on!?
JJ’s shirt is so sick
The rocket power shirt!
Vrabel / Belichick swapping teams ?
Henry is going to turn a meh team into a playoff team.
I’m a Bears fan and couldn’t believe this news.
I knew Pat was selling out it won't surprise me if AJ leaves the show damn they had a great show too it's a shame
🫨 oh nooo what ever will everyone do without frankenstein1111
you ok sport?
VRABEL WANTED OUT!
Lost all respect for Pat he is a P of S!
For what? Because his new platform sucks? Because a guest on his show said something you don't like?
That's what he is don't blame me
After Rodgers praised your show you’re glad he’s not going to be on anymore.
Can’t stand the truth huh Pat
What an amazing shirt
Just heard the news. Pat gave in. :( Never thought he would. No more Rogers???? U sold out Pat. Pathetic. Lost a viewer
Pat Your a disgrace