I went and listened to the first Beethoven Symphony after watching your video, and it was much easier to listen to. If I wouldn't have watched your video, I would have had a harder time listening. Thank you so much for this video. I can't wait for the 2nd Beethoven Symphony video to come up!!!!
@@InsidetheScore I’m not sure who recorded it, but here’s my favorite recording of the symphony, Movement 3 in particular: th-cam.com/video/xcaUGsL2EpI/w-d-xo.html
Beethoven's 1st symphony is so fresh and vivacious! I had the pleasure of playing it in orchestra, and it remains one of my favorites. Of course his later symphonies were fantastic, but this one is so underrated.
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I can't adequately express how amazing your channel is, both the classical music videos and movie soundtrack commentary. Thank you for for sharing your knowledge in such an entertaining and friendly way. I noticed on one on the Harry Potter videos how you were talking about a "Wagnerian tapestry" in the first two movies - are you planning to do any videos on Wagner and how his leitmotif system influenced today's movie soundtracks? That would be great!
Wow - thanks, means a lot. I've just started a Master's at Yale so am very busy at the moment, but I love Wagner - he was my favourite composer for a long while - and I could maybe do something on that. Maybe just pure Wagner, not sure how I'd tie it in to film soundtracks. Food for thought! :) Thanks for your enjoyment
Some interesting points. Re: the opening chords; the origin of this idea is clearly to be found in the opening chord of Haydn’s quartet Opus 74 No 1 written about seven years earlier.
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Personally I think his tonality is pretty clear from common practice in the introduction, but I do really like this video. V/IV-IV, V-vi (deceptive cadence), V/V-V-I. The line in the foreground is easily just heard as 3-4-#4-5-8 to me. Again, that's just my subjective experience. Great video hahah
such a good channel ! I love the idea of bringing classical music close to a big community :) but please use beethoven recordings which are not that f****** slow and just not modern these days like the karajan recordings... they realy aren‘t great from a modern point of view i think 🙈
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Although Beethoven's own musical language shimmers through (especially in the 4th movement) and although Beethoven, who was able to improvise masterfully on the piano and also showed this in his symphonies and other major works, the shadows of Mozart and Haydn in Beethoven's first two symphonies are still too huge and too powerful Beethoven shows what he can do technically and how he plays with the listener. But he only succeeded in achieving the radically new, liberating effect with Eroica. - Cheers, Heinz.
I have listened to the first symphony and here is what I feel in the introduction and start of the Allegro as far as key: Introduction: Meandering through multiple keys, touching on C major but doesn't really feel like C major is the key at any point in the introduction. Instead I feel more of this: F -> Am -> G -> G mixolydian(I mean, even the scale at the very end of the introduction starts and ends on G, reinforcing that mixolydian sound) Allegro: Definitely, for sure, C major. None of that mixolydian feel that there was in the introduction.
I recently decided to nickname the symphonies (which don't have a nickname already like the Choral or the Pastoral) and their movements for easier differentiation. These short names have been very effective as I now have a much clearer understanding of them. Any thoughts on that? Does anybody else do that?
This video along with the color-coded analysis (th-cam.com/video/MPlJOVYJTxY/w-d-xo.html) have really helped me make better sense of this symphony. Thank you so much!
Even a genius sometimes needs a hand; you referred to ‘…from the first note’, so I suggest you listen to the first two notes of two C major works, firstly this symphony (1800) then secondly compare them to the first two notes of Haydn’s string quartet Opus 74 No 1 (1793). You will discover that the ‘genius’ has - let’s be polite - borrowed an idea.
Good bye to the 17th Century music? Not quite. In fact, Beethoven literally copied many figures from Mozart, and some from Joseph Haydn. Yes Yes...the fortissimo and the scherzo are minor alterations, but the sonata form airbrushes any sign of real innovation. The 5th symphony is probably different from the Mozartean style; which, for some, was an achievement. For others, it was a disgrace. I stand by Mozart.
Mozart has almost nothing to do with this symphony, it is a totally different beast; it owes rather more to Haydn in terms of compositional technique, but generally speaking, it is a very new type of symphony, and a clear departure from Beethoven’s two great predecessors.
![Beethoven: Symphony No. 1 in C major, Op. 21 [Böhm & VPO] (with Score)](/img/n.gif)
I went and listened to the first Beethoven Symphony after watching your video, and it was much easier to listen to. If I wouldn't have watched your video, I would have had a harder time listening. Thank you so much for this video. I can't wait for the 2nd Beethoven Symphony video to come up!!!!
That's the idea! Really glad it worked well for you, hope you enjoy the future ones and I'll try not to take too long getting them all out
@@InsidetheScore I’m not sure who recorded it, but here’s my favorite recording of the symphony, Movement 3 in particular: th-cam.com/video/xcaUGsL2EpI/w-d-xo.html
Beethoven's 1st symphony is so fresh and vivacious! I had the pleasure of playing it in orchestra, and it remains one of my favorites. Of course his later symphonies were fantastic, but this one is so underrated.
ABC t if you like this kind of things i think u may find this channel very interesting. Its about music and history told with lot of humor https:/ th-cam.com/video/7F7IJvn5caA/w-d-xo.html enjoy!!
which instrument did you play?
I would love to see you cover his other symphonies.
I can't adequately express how amazing your channel is, both the classical music videos and movie soundtrack commentary. Thank you for for sharing your knowledge in such an entertaining and friendly way. I noticed on one on the Harry Potter videos how you were talking about a "Wagnerian tapestry" in the first two movies - are you planning to do any videos on Wagner and how his leitmotif system influenced today's movie soundtracks? That would be great!
Wow - thanks, means a lot. I've just started a Master's at Yale so am very busy at the moment, but I love Wagner - he was my favourite composer for a long while - and I could maybe do something on that. Maybe just pure Wagner, not sure how I'd tie it in to film soundtracks. Food for thought! :) Thanks for your enjoyment
Some interesting points.
Re: the opening chords; the origin of this idea is clearly to be found in the opening chord of Haydn’s quartet Opus 74 No 1 written about seven years earlier.
Thank you very much, Inside the Score, this is very useful indeed. Have you planned to continue with other composers? It would be awesome.
Will you do a more detailed analysis of this symphony? Im a fan of your work
Thank you so much for making this!
I really enjoy your channel and I'm learning a lot from it. Keep them coming. Cheers
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed this
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Personally I think his tonality is pretty clear from common practice in the introduction, but I do really like this video. V/IV-IV, V-vi (deceptive cadence), V/V-V-I. The line in the foreground is easily just heard as 3-4-#4-5-8 to me. Again, that's just my subjective experience. Great video hahah
I am so glad you are a Channel!!! Keep up the good work!!
Thanks! Glad you're enjoying. I'll try
Thank you so much! I have to conduct it and it was very useful!! :)
Great video! Would like to see more of this :)
Well stay tuned!
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Beethoven one of my day ones!!!!!!!
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Como não voltar sempre a Beethoven? O mestre é um ímã.
This is great. Please keep it coming!
such a good channel ! I love the idea of bringing classical music close to a big community :)
but please use beethoven recordings which are not that f****** slow and just not modern these days like the karajan recordings... they realy aren‘t great from a modern point of view i think 🙈
Thank you for this series!
I love this channel! So sweet!
Thanks - hopefully more soon, very busy this month though :(
if you like this kind of things i think u may find this channel very interesting. Its about music and history told with lot of humor https:/ th-cam.com/video/7F7IJvn5caA/w-d-xo.html enjoy!!
Great video. Good work here. Thank you. :)
I needed this for my form and analysis assignment 👻
hahahah same here
Although Beethoven's own musical language shimmers through (especially in the 4th movement) and although Beethoven, who was able to improvise masterfully on the piano and also showed this in his symphonies and other major works, the shadows of Mozart and Haydn in Beethoven's first two symphonies are still too huge and too powerful Beethoven shows what he can do technically and how he plays with the listener. But he only succeeded in achieving the radically new, liberating effect with Eroica. - Cheers, Heinz.
do the Allegretto from the 7th, really good channel!
All in good time. Got 5 symphonies to come before that one
lovely :D
@@InsidetheScore still waiting
0:05 a beautiful video already.
thank you
I compare the scherzo of this symphony to the Eroica ,and that finale is the most resolute of all his symphony finales.
No number of reviews is enough for Beethoven's Symphonies
I first heard this on the BBC children’s animated show, “Ludwig”.
Wooow ... i loved your analisis
Did someone interrupted some themes by coughing in 1:34, 3:25, 3:43, 4:59.
Thank you. :)
I have listened to the first symphony and here is what I feel in the introduction and start of the Allegro as far as key:
Introduction:
Meandering through multiple keys, touching on C major but doesn't really feel like C major is the key at any point in the introduction. Instead I feel more of this:
F -> Am -> G -> G mixolydian(I mean, even the scale at the very end of the introduction starts and ends on G, reinforcing that mixolydian sound)
Allegro:
Definitely, for sure, C major. None of that mixolydian feel that there was in the introduction.
Hey you! Yes YOU! what the hell is wrong with you? how can you not like this video?
I recently decided to nickname the symphonies (which don't have a nickname already like the Choral or the Pastoral) and their movements for easier differentiation. These short names have been very effective as I now have a much clearer understanding of them. Any thoughts on that? Does anybody else do that?
I’m curious, what are the names?
@@samarmohan9891 'Gottfried' [Symphony No.1 (Op. 21)]: I: "Bold" [Adagio Molto - Allegro Con Brio], II: "Vienna" [Andante Cantabile Con Moto], III: "Shifts" [Menuetto (Allegro Molto E Vivace)], IV: "Unusual" [Finale (Adagio - Allegro molto e vivace)].
@@marq_8976 Wow those actually make sense! Thanks.
What are the nicknames that you have for symphonies 1, 2, and 4?
@@FrederickTheGrt 'Heiligenstadt' [Symphony No.2 (Op. 36)]: I: "Stadt" [Adagio Molto - Allegro Con Brio], II: "Presage" [Larghetto], III: "Austria" [Scherzo], IV: "Hiccup" [Allegro Molto].
Wow cute cat
What are these classical terms
Thanks so much for this video! I found it soooo interesting! :)
Btw, what is a "Mozartean joke"?? (excuse my ignorance)
It’s meant just to be the kind of humorous musical joke that Mozart would have used.
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Oh my goshhh
I did this in conducting class....the intro is not easy to conduct
This video along with the color-coded analysis (th-cam.com/video/MPlJOVYJTxY/w-d-xo.html) have really helped me make better sense of this symphony. Thank you so much!
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"Cute?" Surely not!
Beethoven, genius from the first note to the last
Even a genius sometimes needs a hand; you referred to ‘…from the first note’, so I suggest you listen to the first two notes of two C major works, firstly this symphony (1800) then secondly compare them to the first two notes of Haydn’s string quartet Opus 74 No 1 (1793).
You will discover that the ‘genius’ has - let’s be polite - borrowed an idea.
i get lighthearted, but "comedic"? The oldtimey sure had a peculiar sense of humor
Good bye to the 17th Century music? Not quite. In fact, Beethoven literally copied many figures from Mozart, and some from Joseph Haydn. Yes Yes...the fortissimo and the scherzo are minor alterations, but the sonata form airbrushes any sign of real innovation. The 5th symphony is probably different from the Mozartean style; which, for some, was an achievement. For others, it was a disgrace. I stand by Mozart.
I know - I mean literally the year is 1801 - it's now the new century. The animation was a little joke
Mozart has almost nothing to do with this symphony, it is a totally different beast; it owes rather more to Haydn in terms of compositional technique, but generally speaking, it is a very new type of symphony, and a clear departure from Beethoven’s two great predecessors.