That is the best review I’ve ever seen. I just bought one of these stoves in UK from basecamp in Peterborough for £40. Basecamp is a great company specialising in all things kerosene and he has some of these stoves in stock now. Wish I had bought 2.
I just got back from Big Bend,and wish I had this stove. I had my truck,and trailered my bike. Your's is the best video on this for sure. I watched one before this one that did the extra pumps,and said it wouldn't simmer. Good to hear the straight scoop!
Stuart, a year ago I posted my comment then just today I got your 'heart shaped' response 'heck, I had to watch the video again to refresh my brain - Ha thanks
A most excellent review Stuart. I have one of these and it’s superb and almost all the parts are replaceable. Brilliant. Thank you for such a great and accurate review. Laurie
Minor point. At 4:28, you don't have to keep your thumb over the hole after you've pressurized the tank. A check valve in the pump keeps the pressure from leaking through the pump. I found one on sale at my local big box store on the clearance rack for $30. I grabbed it immediately. I like liquid fuel stoves because I don't have to pack in and pack out propane cylinders. My local big box store sells an alternate fuel for $8/gal vs Coleman's $12/gal.
Someone finally said it...liquid fuel is incompressible, and you need the air gap at the top of the tank to develop the required pressures. My other thought is, I have one of these 533's, and it just kicks-ass. The favored stove in my collection. Great review, sir.
Thank you Rick! yes its my favourite too from an engineering point of view, I just wish it was a little smaller so I could get it in my Triumph panniers! Thanks for your comment!
I had mine in storage for 20 years in the case .like a dummy I left a half a tank of fuel in it . To my shock it fired right up and worked perfect with 20 year old fuel .
these Coleman single burner stoves are fantastic and based on my own experience I highly recommend them. I bought one close to 20 years ago and use it often when camping overnight during gold prospecting trips etc. recently had to replace the pump assy as it was worn out, but by my reckoning it has consumed at least 400 litres of fuel over the years and is still going strong. I usually use unleaded, but have tried Coleman fuel and Shellite. during cold weather when trying to fire it up for that early morning coffee, it pays to pre-warm the generator/vaporizer tube by running a flame with a match or ciggie lighter over the tube for a few seconds. think I'll buy another in case Coleman outsources them to China
I just bought one. It came in a square plastic container. The container is 6.5” x 6.5” x 6.3/4” not sure if mine is brand new but it is mint condition bought from base-camp Peterborough UK. £40.@@deepakpatelji
Thanks for the detailed information. I’m in USA and found a used one with the case for $55, got it home and works great, blue flame came out fairly fast which leads me to believe they used white gas and not unleaded, nothing seemed close to being clogged. As far as fuel here in the States you can buy Crown fuel, (same as Coleman) but is about $8.00 a gallon at Walmart so way cheaper than Coleman. I’ve tent/car camped for many years and just recently purchased a gasoline Coleman lantern and couldn’t be happier, no more propane for me, I used to go through a can every 2 days just for the lantern which is essential for me since I camp mostly in bear territory. Now I’m eager to use the stove on my next camping trip.
Very well done review. I like that you explain the rationale for some of the operating instructions. Too many people out there get creative and think they know better than the engineers at Coleman who have been doing this for decades. If people follow Coleman's directions, this equipment works better and is much, much safer to operate.
You did good here mate. You gave us a bit of history and then told us all the important stuff. I just got my stove the same as your one for just £19.50 at a car boot sale. The guy said he payed £60 for at and he wanted 30£ I said all I have is £19.50 He said yes. Just tested it out, works fine looks like new. If the generator clogs you could probably disassemble and clean it.
WATCHING THE WATCHERS Yes! I’ve cleaned the generator with denatured alcohol (as Coleman recommends) and a pipe cleaner (the small ones for cleaning tobacco pipes).
I have one of these and also the matching lantern for night fishing…. Never have to worry about gas canisters… petrol stations are everywhere open all hours of the night. So well built too
Coleman fuel is basically naptha which at least in the US is sold in hardware stores as paint thinner and may or may not be cheaper than Coleman fuel at any given time based on the whims of the people in charge.....Overall I find the best way to run these stoves is to fill the stove with naptha before leaving on a trip. Then I refill as needed with gasoline from my bike's tank. Naptha is also the main ingredient in the type of Carburetor/fuel injector cleaner you add to your car's fuel tank. So running Naptha, aka whitegas, aka Coleman fuel in your stove should help to keep the stove's generator clean. The most important thing however to keep your generator clean is never store the stove with gasoline in it. IMO 95% problems with clogged generators are caused from old gas. Gasoline doesn't store well and it will gum up your generator. When I get home I dump the fuel from my stove back in to my bike,. Then refill the stove with naptha and run the stove on high for while to get the gasoline out of the generator before storing the stove.
Thanks for this interesting video. I can confirm about all you said in it. I have been using these stoves since back in the '80 (motorcycling and camping, also in winter) and soon I bought an old WWII M.1942, even better, as there is no tube generator on this model. I killed one generator by using unleaded gas (yes, it can happen). Fortunately, one can find spare parts. I've got other models from Coleman (1 and 2 burners) and they all function great and fast. The more primitive ones accept engine gas without any problem, which is a great advantage. The only possible negative point of these old and primitive ones is the noise they make, but one can find very effective "silencers" for them. The modern ones are fine and not so expensive one could think, if you add the gas canisters price you must buy for a gas burner... ATB, Stuart
The 442 is even smaller and can be used for backpacking. It’ll burn on low for five hours. I’ve timed it. By far the best modern liquid fuel stove Coleman has made.
I have had my fuel stove for 20yrs and use it extensively in all weather. I have replaced a plunger and the seals in the on/off lever. I run it only on Unleaded 91 octane and it is fabulous
Being in the States, I nominate these little wonders for the Smithsonian Museum. I've seen them used before I even was old enough to know what they were, and have used them all my life in their various iterations - even outside under my patio roof in winter, alongside my other Coleman stoves, my Blackstone griddle, and a two burner propane grill. Always nice to have a really good auxiliary burner.
I just started collecting lanterns and found out today that filling it to the top dosnt work it kept going out unattended I finally ran enough fuel out of it that it will run for a couple hours I was wondering why it kept going out and I learned something today thanks.
@@thelonegr00ver thats a shame... you really are missing out on a great stove... I've had one for years and I use it when I'm on pike-fishing trips in winter here in Ireland... I burn unleaded petrol as the Coleman fuel here is stupid-spendy... but this means the generators can fail after a fair amount of use. I would recommend carrying a spare generator, a #2pozi screwdriver and a small spanner to swap it out. The heat output is outrageous for its diminutive size... All-in-all, I'm very happy with it.. 🤗 😎👍☘️🍺
Wow, a great informative and Intresting review. I have just got one of those it doesn't have the case, but it does have the fuel filler. I'm in the UK. Great for camping and emergency situations. Thanks for sharing :)
@@carmenmartinez2882 Yep. I was comparing this stove to a propane stove. Propane is cleaner & less maintenence intensive, but heavier & bulkier. Plus you can't easily & safely transfer it from a big tank into a smaller one without the right fittings. Those hiking canister gas stoves are also harder to refill safely.
Replying from the US here, I'm astounded at the high prices in the UK for fuel and the stoves in general. Rising prices Inflation will probably catch up with us yanks here soon enough. Am retired, but until a couple years ago I had a welding/fabrication business and would paint production metal parts with alkyd enamel (Rustoleum Industrial Paint). The paint was $28/gallon and required thinning for spraying. Mineral spirits paint thinner was $10/gallon and Naptha was $16, so I'd use the Coleman white gas camp fuel. It was $6-8/gallon 3 years ago (I know it is at least $12 or more now..). Walmart Store sold an equivalent "Crown Brand" camp fuel for $5/gallon so I switched to using it for paint thinner. As a young man, I motorcycle toured the US and Canada, camping along the way with backpacking equipment. My stove was a SVEA 123. Am shocked to see the same stove (a 50 years old vintage SVEA selling at $100-200 now!!). I'm just shocked at how much more things cost now, with inflation, or the declining value of our currencies.🤑😩
Great vid. I just wanted to point out that for motorcycle camping it would probably be better to go with one of the stoves that uses the fuel bottle off to the side like the whisper light. Reason being is if you run out of gas in your bike you could poor the bottle directly in the tank.
in the Netherlands we can also use 'Wasbenzine' (benzine that is also used to 'wash out' greasy stains) for just 1.30 euro(1 pound) per liter. This is clear and clean naphtha fuel that is hydrogenated to remove any carcinogenic aromatic hydrocarbons.
Wrong! The stuff they sell as " wasbenzine" is mostly a greasy fluid when burned,I clogged up a coleman generator after burning a liter of that stuff, so in a pince you can use it,but it kills the generator, your choice but not advised...
A good review, Stuart, and although I've a 533 and a smaller 442, that a mate gave me after he'd used it in the Paras, I just learned not to give them that second pump once lit! As I've moved to France now, I don't have the need for cold weather cooking, so I take trangia/firebox/gas convertor combinations with me on the bike for shorter trips, and maybe throw the 442 in for longer ones. Hoping to buy a cheap small camper van, and the 533 will def be part of that setup. BTW, My Dad was a Hull lad, do I detect a slight twang there? ;-)
This is a great vehicle camping stove. Liquid fuel is much more efficient than gas canisters. It’s too heavy for back packing though. For camping where your not hauling your kit around by pack it is a great unit.
I found one of these 533 sportster stoves at a dav here in Wichita Kansas where Coleman started so many years ago. Cost was $4.48 cents! I hope all the parts are there. I just put it back together and I'm going to fire it up and see how it goes! I don't have Coleman fuel though and that may cause a problem? Looks like a great camping stove and for under $5.00 I'm very pleased. Great videos
I live in the country in Florida where I lose power many times a year. I don’t keep butane or propane handy but I do have extra unleaded gasoline handy for my car and lawn mower always. When the power goes out during bad weather (in my case hurricanes and thunderstorms with 50+ mph winds) or in the middle of the night, I really am not going to ‘run to the store’ for propane lol. This seems like the ticket!
Yet another informative,nicely edited review. Youre getting pretty good at this,haha! Been thinking about getting one of these for a while. I've always been a Trangia fan but have a couple of tiny Coleman gas stoves too. So the price of this stove is what has been holding me back. But I think you're right,for a longer trip,to save on space carrying gas canister's and to avoid the risk of not being able to buy the right gas canister should you run out,this stove from Coleman would make sense. Fuel would prob work out cheaper than gas on a longer trip too. Hmm,maybe I'll put it on my Xmas wish list and see what Santa brings.
From what i can see, the UK get the cover with the stove. In the US we get the filler tube with the stove ( mine did). Don,t know who their jiping but one, or the other has to buy one or the other. Good camping mate.
Got one of these recently at a spring season sale. Other online camping stores also have them on sale now at around Au$90. Works pretty good with shellite (naptha), which you can buy from hardware shops. I also use a zippo lighter when camping as it works in windy conditions. If you're using Coleman fuel/shellite in the stove, you can refuel your zippo from the stove if you run dry (carefully). They both use the same type of liquid fuel.
I usually decompress after use AND when it's cooled down. For safety reasons, in case the fuel switch accidentally gets wedged or bumped open in the trunk or my pack...
@@livelearnandshare2043 No, not empty the tank of fuel. But release the air pumped into it. You do this by unscrewing the filler cap when the stove is all cooled down. Also be sure you are not smoking or there is flames nearby. You will hear a hiss as the air escapes. Once the hissing stops, the pumped air is all released & the stove is depressurised. Then screw the cap back on. You don't have to do this every time you finish using the stove, if you plan to use it again soon. But its good habit before you store it away/put it in your backpack or car trunk.
I have tried gas and alcohol. Both kind off worked but had their disadvantages with gas being the worst option.. Bought me a Coleman 442 and haven't looked back since. What a delight to use. Whenever possible I use white gas otherwise E95. Cleaning the generator takes about 10 min a year. I DON'T use ordinary oil to lubricate the pump parts but use ceramic grease . This will seal and lubricate the cup for a looooong time.
Great vid, thank you. For an even cheaper fuel alternative, try using panel wipe. Bought 5 litres today to stock up and it cost me £12.50 from my local hardware store here in the UK. Burns very, very clean.
You have answered my simmer question. Very clear video. One thing, I have the propper funnel filter. I put in 400ml of fuel into an empty tank. The fuel started to gather and rest inside the funnel. I didn't like to try and pub in the 500ml recommended amount. I slowly pulled the funnel out and the fuel Inside funnel then went into the tank. Any thoughts or reason? I had no instructions with the funnel. And can't seem to find any original instructions.
davyboy1379 yes that's how it's supposed to work. the funnel Is designed to prevent overfilling. when fuel starts to fill the funnel and stops going into the tank. it means you should not continue to pour. when you withdraw the funnel. the lock is broken and the remainder drains into tank. so don't worry it's doing exactly what it should do.
Stuart Fillingham Managed to get the simmer working. Thanks for your advice. I had to turn the valve to off and slowly turn it back on to achieve the simmer. My tank will only allow 400ml of fuel. Any more and it right up by the the opening.
Ah that's good to hear. Is it the 533? I think that's part of the attraction to these stoves. They require a little voodoo to get the best out of them. It does usually simmer easier when its had a few minutes to warm up. And try putting just 20 strokes of the pump in instead of 25. It's all part of the manly art of coleman stove cooking!
Stuart Fillingham Yes the 533 identical to the one in your video and same box. Here are some details. On the side sticker : Made in U.S.A 533-458E. On the bottom sticker: 533-700E 0.7 litter 2200 Watt 533-025E Stamped on the bottom 08 15 I guess this is date of manufacturing. It is a 2015. I payed £65.94 including delivery.
I find that the top head of all coleman gas stoves are wiggely loose. Coleman fuel cost 8 euro a liter, and aspen 4t €19 for 5 liter in NLD. I like MSR , Optimus better. My old 442 got very hot and i couldn't regulate the flames anymore when boiling 5 liters of water. The fuel tank gets too hot. Also Coleman in NLD has a terrible customer's service . We cannot get USA coleman parts easily. Thats the reason i dont buy anything from them any more. Maybe when im living in the states , my thoughts will change.
Thank You! An excellent, professional review. Well done. I've been doing my homework on stoves, and finally decided on this stove for a number of reasons, but it really comes down to personal preference based on intended use and COST! I found a good 533 on ebay for $40 and that is $20 less than new on Amazon. I am a bit bewildered by how much stoves cost and how much used ones cost as well. New is always nice, but I prefer a good deal on a used equipment, but buying used is a bit of a gamble. Your video helped me confirm that this is the stove for me. I also looked at the MSR Whisperlite, the Jet Boil, and some tiny canister stoves. For me, I wanted a tank. Now the question is, how often will I actually use it, because I'll eat cold soup out of a can and be perfectly happy with a Snickers bar for desert. Travel lite, sleep cold at night!
92 pounds? That's ridiculous. Of course, I'm in Canada and I often find prices quoted in GB pounds to be very high for the same items we buy in Canada. I have an older Coleman camping stove, a 400-model Peak 1 that I bought for hiking in about 1980. It still works well, but is quite heavy for hiking compared to what is now available. I still think these stoves are vastly preferable to the now-popular gas canister stoves. The canisters are much more costly than liquid fuel and most of them end up in the trash (recycling is mostly a fiction). Isobutane is useless in winter. My Coleman uses white gas only, which is fine by me. I'm leary of gasoline, even without lead, as refiners typically put lots of additives into the fuels they sell. These may be in trace amounts, but who knows what you are breathing in and what the effects are? White gas (aka camping gas or Coleman fuel) is quite clean and stable. I also have an old Optimus 8R, the one in the blue hinged metal case. I bought it in a junk shop years ago for about $10 - now they sell on Ebay for $100+. Again, somewhat old-fashioned and heavy, but it burns like a blowtorch and is completely reliable. Good review. There's something about these old stoves - it's quite satisfying to fire one up and get the flame going properly. Especially when you are on the road or trail.
hello, I bought coleman 533 10 days ago, I use unleaded gasoline, I burn the stove by following all instructions, but there is a dark leak under the burner during burning, sometimes it turns into a ball of fire. The leak continues even though I clean the generator, please help
Had mine 25 years now.....I can't understand why anyone uses gas for motorcycle camping...non universal cannisters, crap at low temps, lower heat output. With the petrol cooker the fuel lasts ages and, of course with petrol you already have fuel on board....no brainer
Gas canister stoves are easier to run, lighter, & can be cheaper to buy upfront. It's also easier to maintain. Lots of seasonal campers like these positives, and are ok with the negatives you mentioned.. or are unaware of them...
My stove flares up and the flame won't go out for about 4 to 5 minutes. I don't know what's wrong. I may need a new generator and I don't know how much wick is supposed to be under the burners. Im a new owner of the 533 and ive yet to see it perform properly? Any suggestions out there?
If you follow Mr. Stuart's directions in the video you should find that it works much better. I had a model 400 back in the late 80's and was led to believe that it was best to add pressure to the system after it was lit, which is not needed. It was over pressured and would spit and sputter.
Thanks for the video! How do you transport the fuel when camping? If you’ve placed the fuel in the stove’s fuel bottle and you want to drive to another campsite, do you keep the fuel in the stove’s bottle or decant the fuel into a dedicated secondary fuel bottle such as MSR or Primus bottles?
Hi Retha. If you put 0.5 ltrs in before your trip, you'll get ( according to Coleman) 8 hrs on low. I take an Aluminium "Sigg" bottle full of spare fuel ( The Siggs have a rubber seal around the screw top, and you mustn't use a water bottle seal, it will get melted by the fuel) I had a spare Sigg water bottle and I bought 5 fuel seals on line, and converted it to take fuel. I now have maybe 15-20hours of fuel for the stove, and spare fuel in case the Motorcycle runs out. .... And yes, you can keep fuel in the tank between camps, though I'd empty any remains out at the end of the trip as unleaded can clog-up the internals. Take a look at the smaller 442 Coleman if weight or size is an issue,
If you had the choice between a 2kg LPG cylinder with single burner. Or the Coleman 533 dual fuel. Which of the two units would you choose. And for what reason/s?
LPG tank+burner is easier to use, cheaper upfront, and supports heavier & larger pans. But its much heavier & more expensive in running costs. The Coleman 533 has a learning curve to use, & needs some periodic maintenence especially if you run gasoline. But in the long term, it'll be cheaper. Its also more compact & much lighter (~900 grams).
Does coleman 5103a253 fuel work in the dual fuel stoves? I bought one for my dad for his birthday and I purchased a gallon of coleman 5103a253 fuel thinking it will work... will it?
Don't run these on Ethanol. It rots the seals and you end up with a flaming comet at the side of you tent. Kerosene burns well but you need to preheat.
I've ALWAYS pumped my stove up again after lighting it - I'll try it your way tomorrow and see if I can get a lower 'simmer' setting to the flame - thanks
Same here. Lighting instruction sticker on mine says the following: 1. RED FUEL LEVER must be "OFF" 2. Open pump. Pump 25 full strokes. Close pump. 3. Hold match at burner. 4. Move RED FUEL LEVER to LIGHT/HIGH. 5. As soon as burner lights, open pump one turn and pump for 30 SECONDS (30 pumps). Close pump. 6 To extinguish or if fuel or flames appear below burner, immediately turn RED FUEL LEVER "OFF". Allow stove to cool. I have always pumped in these extra pumps in after lighting and it works great, simmers fine and runs a long time.
As in liquid petrol/gasoline? If so, Yes. (Note: In some countries, "gas" refers to butane/propane LPG or natural gas, which is also used as an auto fuel)
Also, when I first saw a previous model in a camping store about 20yrs ago, the sales lady told me many people like to use shellite as it is very clean burning. Provided that is still possible, I suspect it's an even cheaper alternative as it's available as a general utility item in many shops.
mohammed hamza As in fuel you use in the car? If it is gasoline/petrol, yes. Diesel, no. But be careful because there is a risk it may block your stove generator after some time if you don't maintain it well...
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That is the best review I’ve ever seen. I just bought one of these stoves in UK from basecamp in Peterborough for £40. Basecamp is a great company specialising in all things kerosene and he has some of these stoves in stock now. Wish I had bought 2.
I just got back from Big Bend,and wish I had this stove. I had my truck,and trailered my bike. Your's is the best video on this for sure. I watched one before this one that did the extra pumps,and said it wouldn't simmer. Good to hear the straight scoop!
This is the best review of this stove I have seen , covers every aspect.
From a survivalist point of view, this is a must have.
Finally found a video explaining how to properly add pressure. And got mine working. Not a biker but definetly worth it for a bug out bag as a backup.
Stuart, a year ago I posted my comment then just today I got your 'heart shaped' response
'heck, I had to watch the video again to refresh my brain - Ha
thanks
Trying to catch up on stuff that's slipped through the net!
A most excellent review Stuart. I have one of these and it’s superb and almost all the parts are replaceable. Brilliant. Thank you for such a great and accurate review. Laurie
Minor point. At 4:28, you don't have to keep your thumb over the hole after you've pressurized the tank. A check valve in the pump keeps the pressure from leaking through the pump. I found one on sale at my local big box store on the clearance rack for $30. I grabbed it immediately. I like liquid fuel stoves because I don't have to pack in and pack out propane cylinders. My local big box store sells an alternate fuel for $8/gal vs Coleman's $12/gal.
Dan Burch totally agree. I found one barely used with case for $55 I immediately grabbed it. These things last forever.
Someone finally said it...liquid fuel is incompressible, and you need the air gap at the top of the tank to develop the required pressures. My other thought is, I have one of these 533's, and it just kicks-ass. The favored stove in my collection.
Great review, sir.
Thank you Rick! yes its my favourite too from an engineering point of view, I just wish it was a little smaller so I could get it in my Triumph panniers! Thanks for your comment!
I have a m1950 that im needing some cleaning and repair. But picked this one up for a whopping 10 dollars.
I had mine in storage for 20 years in the case .like a dummy I left a half a tank of fuel in it . To my shock it fired right up and worked perfect with 20 year old fuel .
these Coleman single burner stoves are fantastic and based on my own experience I highly recommend them. I bought one close to 20 years ago and use it often when camping overnight during gold prospecting trips etc. recently had to replace the pump assy as it was worn out, but by my reckoning it has consumed at least 400 litres of fuel over the years and is still going strong. I usually use unleaded, but have tried Coleman fuel and Shellite. during cold weather when trying to fire it up for that early morning coffee, it pays to pre-warm the generator/vaporizer tube by running a flame with a match or ciggie lighter over the tube for a few seconds. think I'll buy another in case Coleman outsources them to China
I've owned this stove for years, but I still come back to your review just to listen to you talk about it. :)
Please tell me LxWxH of this stove. I want to put it in my bikes panniers.
I just bought one. It came in a square plastic container. The container is 6.5” x 6.5” x 6.3/4” not sure if mine is brand new but it is mint condition bought from base-camp Peterborough UK. £40.@@deepakpatelji
Thanks for the detailed information. I’m in USA and found a used one with the case for $55, got it home and works great, blue flame came out fairly fast which leads me to believe they used white gas and not unleaded, nothing seemed close to being clogged. As far as fuel here in the States you can buy Crown fuel, (same as Coleman) but is about $8.00 a gallon at Walmart so way cheaper than Coleman. I’ve tent/car camped for many years and just recently purchased a gasoline Coleman lantern and couldn’t be happier, no more propane for me, I used to go through a can every 2 days just for the lantern which is essential for me since I camp mostly in bear territory. Now I’m eager to use the stove on my next camping trip.
Very well done review.
I like that you explain the rationale for some of the operating instructions. Too many people out there get creative and think they know better than the engineers at Coleman who have been doing this for decades.
If people follow Coleman's directions, this equipment works better and is much, much safer to operate.
You did good here mate. You gave us a bit of history and then told us all the important stuff. I just got my stove the same as your one for just £19.50 at a car boot sale. The guy said he payed £60 for at and he wanted 30£ I said all I have is £19.50 He said yes. Just tested it out, works fine looks like new. If the generator clogs you could probably disassemble and clean it.
WATCHING THE WATCHERS
Yes! I’ve cleaned the generator with denatured alcohol (as Coleman recommends) and a pipe cleaner (the small ones for cleaning tobacco pipes).
I've heard adding injector cleaner to the fuel helps a lot.
Just got mine. So happy with it! Best investment Ive done, if you do outdoor cooking, camping or stuff! Seriously awesome unit!!!
I have one of these and also the matching lantern for night fishing…. Never have to worry about gas canisters… petrol stations are everywhere open all hours of the night.
So well built too
Coleman fuel is basically naptha which at least in the US is sold in hardware stores as paint thinner and may or may not be cheaper than Coleman fuel at any given time based on the whims of the people in charge.....Overall I find the best way to run these stoves is to fill the stove with naptha before leaving on a trip. Then I refill as needed with gasoline from my bike's tank. Naptha is also the main ingredient in the type of Carburetor/fuel injector cleaner you add to your car's fuel tank. So running Naptha, aka whitegas, aka Coleman fuel in your stove should help to keep the stove's generator clean.
The most important thing however to keep your generator clean is never store the stove with gasoline in it. IMO 95% problems with clogged generators are caused from old gas. Gasoline doesn't store well and it will gum up your generator. When I get home I dump the fuel from my stove back in to my bike,. Then refill the stove with naptha and run the stove on high for while to get the gasoline out of the generator before storing the stove.
Thanks, good advice.
Thanks for this interesting video. I can confirm about all you said in it. I have been using these stoves since back in the '80 (motorcycling and camping, also in winter) and soon I bought an old WWII M.1942, even better, as there is no tube generator on this model. I killed one generator by using unleaded gas (yes, it can happen). Fortunately, one can find spare parts. I've got other models from Coleman (1 and 2 burners) and they all function great and fast.
The more primitive ones accept engine gas without any problem, which is a great advantage. The only possible negative point of these old and primitive ones is the noise they make, but one can find very effective "silencers" for them.
The modern ones are fine and not so expensive one could think, if you add the gas canisters price you must buy for a gas burner...
ATB, Stuart
The 442 is even smaller and can be used for backpacking. It’ll burn on low for five hours. I’ve timed it. By far the best modern liquid fuel stove Coleman has made.
I used one on a 2 month long motorcycle trip and it worked great.
I have had my fuel stove for 20yrs and use it extensively in all weather. I have replaced a plunger and the seals in the on/off lever. I run it only on Unleaded 91 octane and it is fabulous
Being in the States, I nominate these little wonders for the Smithsonian Museum. I've seen them used before I even was old enough to know what they were, and have used them all my life in their various iterations - even outside under my patio roof in winter, alongside my other Coleman stoves, my Blackstone griddle, and a two burner propane grill. Always nice to have a really good auxiliary burner.
I just started collecting lanterns and found out today that filling it to the top dosnt work it kept going out unattended I finally ran enough fuel out of it that it will run for a couple hours I was wondering why it kept going out and I learned something today thanks.
Yeah I think its just human nature to cram as much in as you can! but it affects the operating pressures so doesn't work properly!
These stoves are freaking bulletproof. Replacement parts are readily available and can be repaired by most people. Best of all, MADE IN USA.
Its' too damned big and heavy for traveling on foot.
Made in USA thats me avoiding then.
@@thelonegr00ver Made in China I would avoid them all the cost
@@thelonegr00ver thats a shame... you really are missing out on a great stove...
I've had one for years and I use it when I'm on pike-fishing trips in winter here in Ireland...
I burn unleaded petrol as the Coleman fuel here is stupid-spendy... but this means the generators can fail after a fair amount of use.
I would recommend carrying a spare generator, a #2pozi screwdriver and a small spanner to swap it out.
The heat output is outrageous for its diminutive size...
All-in-all, I'm very happy with it.. 🤗
😎👍☘️🍺
Wow, a great informative and Intresting review. I have just got one of those it doesn't have the case, but it does have the fuel filler. I'm in the UK. Great for camping and emergency situations. Thanks for sharing :)
We need this now. The way 2020 an 2021 is goin to be.
It can run on petrol, and propane is not so easy to transfer from a large tank to a smaller one. Would be a bonus if kerosene can be used on this.
Jonathan Tan Not propane, white gas (Coleman or Crown fuel) or unleaded gas, but better on white gas, less deposits.
@@carmenmartinez2882 Yep. I was comparing this stove to a propane stove. Propane is cleaner & less maintenence intensive, but heavier & bulkier. Plus you can't easily & safely transfer it from a big tank into a smaller one without the right fittings. Those hiking canister gas stoves are also harder to refill safely.
@@jonathantan2469 when using unleaded fuel, add a few drops of redex or similar, it will help with stopping blockages..
Replying from the US here, I'm astounded at the high prices in the UK for fuel and the stoves in general. Rising prices Inflation will probably catch up with us yanks here soon enough. Am retired, but until a couple years ago I had a welding/fabrication business and would paint production metal parts with alkyd enamel (Rustoleum Industrial Paint). The paint was $28/gallon and required thinning for spraying. Mineral spirits paint thinner was $10/gallon and Naptha was $16, so I'd use the Coleman white gas camp fuel. It was $6-8/gallon 3 years ago (I know it is at least $12 or more now..). Walmart Store sold an equivalent "Crown Brand" camp fuel for $5/gallon so I switched to using it for paint thinner.
As a young man, I motorcycle toured the US and Canada, camping along the way with backpacking equipment. My stove was a SVEA 123. Am shocked to see the same stove (a 50 years old vintage SVEA selling at $100-200 now!!). I'm just shocked at how much more things cost now, with inflation, or the declining value of our currencies.🤑😩
You can buy them new as a Optimus Svea. $150 CDN, made of solid brass. Expensive, but should last a lifetime.
Can you use this stoves inside the house..
Great vid. I just wanted to point out that for motorcycle camping it would probably be better to go with one of the stoves that uses the fuel bottle off to the side like the whisper light. Reason being is if you run out of gas in your bike you could poor the bottle directly in the tank.
I still use a 530 that was actually used in WW2 I use it motorcycle camping a lot still works perfectly.
I would love to get my hands on one of the originals they are classic piece of kit, thanks for watching sir!
As a biker I use the feather 442. It is smaller and fits better on the bike.
in the Netherlands we can also use 'Wasbenzine' (benzine that is also used to 'wash out' greasy stains) for just 1.30 euro(1 pound) per liter. This is clear and clean naphtha fuel that is hydrogenated to remove any carcinogenic aromatic hydrocarbons.
I don't think that is available here Hans but I shall keep an eye open for it!
I've been using panel wipe which is also Naptha. Cost 17 quid for 5 ltrs
Wrong! The stuff they sell as " wasbenzine" is mostly a greasy fluid when burned,I clogged up a coleman generator after burning a liter of that stuff, so in a pince you can use it,but it kills the generator, your choice but not advised...
A good review, Stuart, and although I've a 533 and a smaller 442, that a mate gave me after he'd used it in the Paras, I just learned not to give them that second pump once lit! As I've moved to France now, I don't have the need for cold weather cooking, so I take trangia/firebox/gas convertor combinations with me on the bike for shorter trips, and maybe throw the 442 in for longer ones. Hoping to buy a cheap small camper van, and the 533 will def be part of that setup. BTW, My Dad was a Hull lad, do I detect a slight twang there? ;-)
This is a great vehicle camping stove. Liquid fuel is much more efficient than gas canisters. It’s too heavy for back packing though. For camping where your not hauling your kit around by pack it is a great unit.
I found one of these 533 sportster stoves at a dav here in Wichita Kansas where Coleman started so many years ago. Cost was $4.48 cents! I hope all the parts are there. I just put it back together and I'm going to fire it up and see how it goes! I don't have Coleman fuel though and that may cause a problem? Looks like a great camping stove and for under $5.00 I'm very pleased. Great videos
I paid £45 in 1990s still have it still works!!
Great review and fascinating history lesson. Thanks for sharing.
I live in the country in Florida where I lose power many times a year. I don’t keep butane or propane handy but I do have extra unleaded gasoline handy for my car and lawn mower always. When the power goes out during bad weather (in my case hurricanes and thunderstorms with 50+ mph winds) or in the middle of the night, I really am not going to ‘run to the store’ for propane lol. This seems like the ticket!
Very helpful video, thank you.
Yet another informative,nicely edited review. Youre getting pretty good at this,haha!
Been thinking about getting one of these for a while. I've always been a Trangia fan but have a couple of tiny Coleman gas stoves too. So the price of this stove is what has been holding me back. But I think you're right,for a longer trip,to save on space carrying gas canister's and to avoid the risk of not being able to buy the right gas canister should you run out,this stove from Coleman would make sense. Fuel would prob work out cheaper than gas on a longer trip too. Hmm,maybe I'll put it on my Xmas wish list and see what Santa brings.
Hi Thanks Malcolm, yes they are well worth having around!
From what i can see, the UK get the cover with the stove. In the US we get the filler tube with the stove ( mine did). Don,t know who their jiping but one, or the other has to buy one or the other. Good camping mate.
Very nice video. I'm looking for a dual fuel stove to take as I ride around Australia, and this just topped the list.
they are well worth consideration!
Got one of these recently at a spring season sale. Other online camping stores also have them on sale now at around Au$90. Works pretty good with shellite (naptha), which you can buy from hardware shops.
I also use a zippo lighter when camping as it works in windy conditions. If you're using Coleman fuel/shellite in the stove, you can refuel your zippo from the stove if you run dry (carefully). They both use the same type of liquid fuel.
I have that little stove and I like it very much for its simplicity. Should I decompress the tank after use ? Thanks for the very thorough review.
I usually decompress after use AND when it's cooled down. For safety reasons, in case the fuel switch accidentally gets wedged or bumped open in the trunk or my pack...
@@jonathantan2469 May I asking what do you meant by decompress the tank. You meant empty the tank.
@@livelearnandshare2043 No, not empty the tank of fuel. But release the air pumped into it. You do this by unscrewing the filler cap when the stove is all cooled down. Also be sure you are not smoking or there is flames nearby. You will hear a hiss as the air escapes. Once the hissing stops, the pumped air is all released & the stove is depressurised. Then screw the cap back on. You don't have to do this every time you finish using the stove, if you plan to use it again soon. But its good habit before you store it away/put it in your backpack or car trunk.
Excellent review 👍
i like how you dont have to take another kind of fuel, just use your spare gas.
This keeps it authentic to the kind of people (including me) who would buy this kind of stove
How long does it burn for on 25 pumps ? Before it needs pumping again
What have you found to be the simplest way to clean out a clogged generator tube and restore it to service?
You can order a new one for about $20 with shipping. Or disassemble and spray with non chlorinated carburetor cleaner.
@@mattparker2716
Where is the easiest place to get that product ?
¡UN CLÁSICO DEL CAMPISMO!, SALUDOS. :)
I have tried gas and alcohol. Both kind off worked but had their disadvantages with gas being the worst option.. Bought me a Coleman 442 and haven't looked back since. What a delight to use. Whenever possible I use white gas otherwise E95. Cleaning the generator takes about 10 min a year. I DON'T use ordinary oil to lubricate the pump parts but use ceramic grease . This will seal and lubricate the cup for a looooong time.
Okay, what is ceramic grease?
@@johnwyman6331 Google is your friend.
Great video thanks - Super unleaded petrol has cleaners in it which stop the regulator blocking up.
Or just add your own injector cleaner to the fuel you have. Probably best to use ethanol free fuel.
Thank you Great vlog , learnt something I didn’t know about, thought these sort of stoves went in the 50’s. cheers.
Great vid, thank you. For an even cheaper fuel alternative, try using panel wipe. Bought 5 litres today to stock up and it cost me £12.50 from my local hardware store here in the UK. Burns very, very clean.
For those of us across the pond, what is "panel wipe"?
@@killbot1974 Are you on any groups I can send you a picture to.
@@killbot1974 Seems like its IPA, alcohol.
@@v8rumble123 it's a naptha based solvent that's identical to Coleman fuel, used for car painting. Don't put alcohol fuels in these stoves.
thankfully, I can get coleman fuel at most my local hardware stores
You have answered my simmer question. Very clear video.
One thing, I have the propper funnel filter.
I put in 400ml of fuel into an empty tank.
The fuel started to gather and rest inside the funnel. I didn't like to try and pub in the 500ml recommended amount. I slowly pulled the funnel out and the fuel Inside funnel then went into the tank.
Any thoughts or reason?
I had no instructions with the funnel. And can't seem to find any original instructions.
davyboy1379 yes that's how it's supposed to work. the funnel Is designed to prevent overfilling. when fuel starts to fill the funnel and stops going into the tank. it means you should not continue to pour. when you withdraw the funnel. the lock is broken and the remainder drains into tank. so don't worry it's doing exactly what it should do.
Lol no problem. Glad to be of assistance. Thanks for watching!
Stuart Fillingham Managed to get the simmer working. Thanks for your advice. I had to turn the valve to off and slowly turn it back on to achieve the simmer.
My tank will only allow 400ml of fuel. Any more and it right up by the the opening.
Ah that's good to hear. Is it the 533? I think that's part of the attraction to these stoves. They require a little voodoo to get the best out of them. It does usually simmer easier when its had a few minutes to warm up. And try putting just 20 strokes of the pump in instead of 25. It's all part of the manly art of coleman stove cooking!
Stuart Fillingham Yes the 533 identical to the one in your video and same box.
Here are some details.
On the side sticker : Made in U.S.A 533-458E.
On the bottom sticker: 533-700E
0.7 litter
2200 Watt
533-025E
Stamped on the bottom 08 15
I guess this is date of manufacturing.
It is a 2015. I payed £65.94 including delivery.
Great review, very informative. Thank you.
Paul Sephton your welcome. thanks very much for watching!
Can you run it on kerosene by preheating/priming the generator & ring?
Now that was a good review, you answered every question I had. 👍
Thank you sir glad you liked it!
Superb review! Great little stove
I find that the top head of all coleman gas stoves are wiggely loose. Coleman fuel cost 8 euro a liter, and aspen 4t €19 for 5 liter in NLD. I like MSR , Optimus better. My old 442 got very hot and i couldn't regulate the flames anymore when boiling 5 liters of water. The fuel tank gets too hot. Also Coleman in NLD has a terrible customer's service . We cannot get USA coleman parts easily. Thats the reason i dont buy anything from them any more. Maybe when im living in the states , my thoughts will change.
Thank You! An excellent, professional review. Well done. I've been doing my homework on stoves, and finally decided on this stove for a number of reasons, but it really comes down to personal preference based on intended use and COST! I found a good 533 on ebay for $40 and that is $20 less than new on Amazon. I am a bit bewildered by how much stoves cost and how much used ones cost as well. New is always nice, but I prefer a good deal on a used equipment, but buying used is a bit of a gamble. Your video helped me confirm that this is the stove for me. I also looked at the MSR Whisperlite, the Jet Boil, and some tiny canister stoves. For me, I wanted a tank. Now the question is, how often will I actually use it, because I'll eat cold soup out of a can and be perfectly happy with a Snickers bar for desert. Travel lite, sleep cold at night!
Review only Englishman can make. Excellent - CONGRATULATION mate.
can u also use alcohol or ethanol?
92 pounds? That's ridiculous. Of course, I'm in Canada and I often find prices quoted in GB pounds to be very high for the same items we buy in Canada.
I have an older Coleman camping stove, a 400-model Peak 1 that I bought for hiking in about 1980. It still works well, but is quite heavy for hiking compared to what is now available. I still think these stoves are vastly preferable to the now-popular gas canister stoves. The canisters are much more costly than liquid fuel and most of them end up in the trash (recycling is mostly a fiction). Isobutane is useless in winter. My Coleman uses white gas only, which is fine by me. I'm leary of gasoline, even without lead, as refiners typically put lots of additives into the fuels they sell. These may be in trace amounts, but who knows what you are breathing in and what the effects are? White gas (aka camping gas or Coleman fuel) is quite clean and stable.
I also have an old Optimus 8R, the one in the blue hinged metal case. I bought it in a junk shop years ago for about $10 - now they sell on Ebay for $100+. Again, somewhat old-fashioned and heavy, but it burns like a blowtorch and is completely reliable.
Good review. There's something about these old stoves - it's quite satisfying to fire one up and get the flame going properly. Especially when you are on the road or trail.
Yes we get stung on everything here!
Import fees to encourage sales of domestic products.
KOHL'S has it for $64.99 at this time if you spend a $75 total purchase...W/free shipping!
Very professional review. Thanks.
Is it ok to leave white coleman fuel inside the stove for a long period of time ? Or will it damage the stove ? Thanks
Very very good vid. Thanks
Your welcome sir!
hello, I bought coleman 533 10 days ago, I use unleaded gasoline, I burn the stove by following all instructions, but there is a dark leak under the burner during burning, sometimes it turns into a ball of fire.
The leak continues even though I clean the generator, please help
Had mine 25 years now.....I can't understand why anyone uses gas for motorcycle camping...non universal cannisters, crap at low temps, lower heat output. With the petrol cooker the fuel lasts ages and, of course with petrol you already have fuel on board....no brainer
Gas canister stoves are easier to run, lighter, & can be cheaper to buy upfront. It's also easier to maintain. Lots of seasonal campers like these positives, and are ok with the negatives you mentioned.. or are unaware of them...
My stove flares up and the flame won't go out for about 4 to 5 minutes. I don't know what's wrong. I may need a new generator and I don't know how much wick is supposed to be under the burners. Im a new owner of the 533 and ive yet to see it perform properly? Any suggestions out there?
If you follow Mr. Stuart's directions in the video you should find that it works much better. I had a model 400 back in the late 80's and was led to believe that it was best to add pressure to the system after it was lit, which is not needed. It was over pressured and would spit and sputter.
Great stoves
Can youuse fuel which has stabilizer added to preserve the quality of the fuel (unleaded fuel us) ?
Im not entirely sure sir! i suppose in principal it should work but im not sure how it might affect the generator long term!
Thanks for the video! How do you transport the fuel when camping? If you’ve placed the fuel in the stove’s fuel bottle and you want to drive to another campsite, do you keep the fuel in the stove’s bottle or decant the fuel into a dedicated secondary fuel bottle such as MSR or Primus bottles?
Hi Retha. If you put 0.5 ltrs in before your trip, you'll get ( according to Coleman) 8 hrs on low. I take an Aluminium "Sigg" bottle full of spare fuel ( The Siggs have a rubber seal around the screw top, and you mustn't use a water bottle seal, it will get melted by the fuel) I had a spare Sigg water bottle and I bought 5 fuel seals on line, and converted it to take fuel. I now have maybe 15-20hours of fuel for the stove, and spare fuel in case the Motorcycle runs out. .... And yes, you can keep fuel in the tank between camps, though I'd empty any remains out at the end of the trip as unleaded can clog-up the internals. Take a look at the smaller 442 Coleman if weight or size is an issue,
The aspen T4 fuel is fantastic stuff
Awesome video!
What does it mean when there are also flames underneath the head ?
If you had the choice between a 2kg LPG cylinder with single burner. Or the Coleman 533 dual fuel. Which of the two units would you choose. And for what reason/s?
Just In, for motorcycle camping the Coleman. It easy to tap some fuel from the bike to run the stove
LPG tank+burner is easier to use, cheaper upfront, and supports heavier & larger pans. But its much heavier & more expensive in running costs.
The Coleman 533 has a learning curve to use, & needs some periodic maintenence especially if you run gasoline. But in the long term, it'll be cheaper. Its also more compact & much lighter (~900 grams).
Thank you for the video sir.
Does coleman 5103a253 fuel work in the dual fuel stoves? I bought one for my dad for his birthday and I purchased a gallon of coleman 5103a253 fuel thinking it will work... will it?
yes if its the clear liquid fuel.
@@stuartfillingham May I ask, clear liquid same as white liquid because in Walmart it says white liquid.
@@livelearnandshare2043 it's actually called white gas, but it is clear.
@@johnwyman6331 thank you
Don't run these on Ethanol. It rots the seals and you end up with a flaming comet at the side of you tent. Kerosene burns well but you need to preheat.
Cant you just use white gas? That should work. It is the same as zippo fuel. Its 1 euro per liter!
Greetings,
Jeff
White gas is the other fuel in this dual fuel stove
Please tell me LxWxH of this stove. I want to put it in my bikes panniers.
I've ALWAYS pumped my stove up again after lighting it - I'll try it your way tomorrow and see if I can get a lower 'simmer' setting to the flame - thanks
Same here. Lighting instruction sticker on mine says the following: 1. RED FUEL LEVER must be "OFF" 2. Open pump. Pump 25 full strokes. Close pump. 3. Hold match at burner. 4. Move RED FUEL LEVER to LIGHT/HIGH. 5. As soon as burner lights, open pump one turn and pump for 30 SECONDS (30 pumps). Close pump. 6 To extinguish or if fuel or flames appear below burner, immediately turn RED FUEL LEVER "OFF". Allow stove to cool. I have always pumped in these extra pumps in after lighting and it works great, simmers fine and runs a long time.
Can we use gas which used in cars ??
yes
@@stuartfillingham Yes to his yes.
As in liquid petrol/gasoline? If so, Yes.
(Note: In some countries, "gas" refers to butane/propane LPG or natural gas, which is also used as an auto fuel)
Hi there. Would premium unleaded be better for this. Cheers Alan 👍
would make little difference.
@@stuartfillingham but isn’t it cleaner the regular unleaded 👍
Got mine in '77. I keep it inside a pot, inside a plastic shopping bag.
I love my 533.
Like the pot?
Aspen Alkalyte is great.
Thanks for review
My pleasure
Hmm… my stove, on the label, says after lighting…give it another 30 pumps.
Good clear info Thanks
great video thanks.
you welcome sir, thanks for watching
Thanks mate. Nice work. Earned yourself a like & sub.
Also, when I first saw a previous model in a camping store about 20yrs ago, the sales lady told me many people like to use shellite as it is very clean burning. Provided that is still possible, I suspect it's an even cheaper alternative as it's available as a general utility item in many shops.
There is no way to find that beauty less than 60€ plus handling and taxes anywhere in the net unfortunately..
does it work with car fuel "benzene" ?
mohammed hamza As in fuel you use in the car? If it is gasoline/petrol, yes. Diesel, no. But be careful because there is a risk it may block your stove generator after some time if you don't maintain it well...
it can also burn high horsepower Liquor for instance, moonshine, or ever-clear.
@@wf6951 have you tried it? How did it Act?
does it run on diesel?
no. gasoline (petrol) Shellite, Coleman fuel. I just use regular unleaded petrol (ethanol free)
great video !!
Extra reserve tank that also cooks me dinner? Yes please.
It's too bad the carrying case is rubbish. A simple hook should be attached to it so that anyone can clip onto a camping pack or rucksack.