UFC 294 Reaction: What’s Next for Islam Makhachev? | The MMA Hour
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- The team debates the pound-for-pound rankings in the wake of Makhachev's win over Volkanovski at UFC 294, what Makhachev's next title defense should be, whether Volkanovski should fight again in January at UFC 297, whether or not Khamzat Chimaev should get a title shot against Sean Strickland, whether Kamaru Usman would have beaten Chimaev with five rounds, and more.
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*Discredits Islam's win every chance he gets*
"I'm not discrediting Islam's win"
It's hard not to discredit given the circumstances for Volk with 11-days notice off the couch returning from recent surgery, and the size difference with the UAE hydration rules. It should have been the 155lb backup in Gamrot (who was preparing with a full-camp for the eventuality of Charles/Islam pulling out) that stepped in
opened the video by saying hes the best lightweight on the planet.?
@@Nozylatten which is beyond obvious, he has the belt defended 2x. He is best fighter in whole ufc.
@@jozefhorniak8191 lol he's definitely not.
@jozefhorniak8191 he hasnt fought ANYBODY in his own division lmao muslims like him just because hes muslim now he wants to fight at welterweight hes tryna hold up 2 divisions by fighting 1 time every 10 months 😂
*Volk:* "No excuses"
*His fans:* "It's ok we will make excuses for you"
Ariel on Mondays after a Dagestani sweep always looks like his dog died or something. Will he ever be able to give these guys credit without making some backhanded comment? Glad Ric was there to check his bias this time around.
It’s simple. They’re Muslim, they don’t go on his show and they support Palestine.
Ariel is a hater. He hated khabib and predicted against him every time
It's so annoying how he says he's not trying to take anything from Islam while actively trying to take credit away from Islam. He always does this. We will interpret what he says how we want. He can't influence that like he always tries to.
Remember Ariel is a zionist
why u talk so highly? there are at least 10 reasons why people hate ufc and east now. wanna start? u guys didn't win a single tournament yet u call yourself champions. nozt to even mention all the social emdia manipulation. Dana sold his soul to the East. why would any1 still watch UFC without actual tournaments where fighters actually earn their rank? dont even egt me started on weight bullies, steroid/iv abbuse and so on
How can somebody say, "It wouldn't be a 1st round KO if he had a full fight camp" so surely? Backhanded compliments as always!
It's all too simple. He can't outrightly discredit Islam because that would be too obvious
@@dinkin_flicka14that is why im so glad islam didn't let it go to the distance.
Because objectively that makes sense ? A guy who had a full camp to prepare for a specific person is going to be more aware and ready than a guy who rolled off the couch with like 11 days. Multiple things can be true at the same time. Either way even with a full camp islam had the odds stacked in his favor
@@rhysjones1108 The dude said "he is not getting knocked out if he had a full camp" with full confidence. Getting headkick KO'ed is not a prep issue. You can speculate all you want but you can't say something like that with full certainty.
@@poorsoul5695 the flip side is also true, you can’t definitively say volk would have gotten headkicked full camp or not. All I know is islam threw multiple headkicks like that one in the first fight and volk wasn’t caught off guard like that.
Bruv, Volk couldn't even beat Islam with a full camp in his home territory Australia. He didn't do enough inspite of Islam being drained and not fully recovered from his weight cut. Volk gave Islam respect so let's not make Volk look cheap by coping so hard. As Islam fans we're glad he won but it was tough seeing a head kick. We hope he recovers and wish him well and healing.
Well said👏
Im sorry. But that Islam would've knocked out most fighters including alex with a full camp that night.
and u know that how? UFC without actual Tournaments is not even worth watching. also u guys get abud abi and dana support. u should be thankful, u didnt really earn anything. these staged up fights means nothing
Probably… there’s honestly hasn’t been any up and coming dark horses at LW in years... it’s been Khabib, Justin, Dustin, Islam, Charles for years now.. the rest are mid tier elite.. like Chandler, Arman, Gamrot, Dariush, Fiziev etc… those guys are good, but they’re not on Islam’s level.. only a lucky punch would get it done.
We don’t know that
@CrackerBarrelkid555 but what we do know is that he'd lose anyway. Knock out or not, full camp or not. He proved that in Australia when islam wasn't 100%
@@maherzain434 no. We dont know anything. We're not fortune tellers and witches with magic potions. Anyhing that didnt happen is a "what if" and the rest is based in opinion
Ariel must be soo upset with Islam winning!
He’s upset his favorite camp of fighters (CKB) has been losing recently.
clearly
You sound more upset than anyone…
So right
@@Jamesfrancosdog you must be a Volk fanboy - get over it. I know it’s not cricket.
“I’m not taking anything away from Islam here, but he only won in the dominant fashion he did because Volk didn’t have a full camp” Brotha that is exactly what you’re doing 😂😂
Also, stop comparing Volk and Izzy. Izzy was active, but he always bullied his opponents into taking quick turnaround fights when they wouldn’t be at 100% to give himself an advantage in arguably one of the worst divisions. Volk is the purest example of “anyone, anywhere, anytime” in the second best weight class
@myziynkawaolsbeis3703actually he said they both had pressure but islam had more
Volk has said he got inspiration from Izzy’s reign as champion and wanted to be just as active as him, they also have the same coaches and live near eachother. it’s not that crazy for them to be compared lol
Also who did Izzy bully into a title shot rematch they didn’t want ?
@@rhysjones1108 There's very few fighters on the roster that hold the leverage to be able to turn down a title shot without being punished for it. Look at what is happening to Dricus right now 😂😂😂 and this is after he just finished one of the best middleweights of all time decisively. What a terrible argument that I would completely expect from an Izzy fan. Hope u don't own any dogs buddy 🐕
Bro said stop comparing Izzy bro are you serious or slow?
exactly! He's just salty because he knows he wont get content from them because they don't play into his game. Very bad journalism
Starts with excuse, "no excuse whatsoever," ends with excuse.
Helwani: I don't look at Jon Jones illegal strike loss a loss.
Also Helwani: Johnny walker should've gotten the W after that illegal strike.
Haha true 🤣 Also, Jon Jones lost to USADA as well. Thats the worst kind of loss that a fighter can get.
Mokaev fought on after an illegal knee.
And, wasn't Ariel saying Khabib being undefeated is not a factor on Goat debate? If thats the case why bring up if Jones lost or not before?
@@timurjack8773Ariel has always been like this😂😂😂He doesnt like Muslim fighters. Always Starts his speechs about them with Compliments to not make it very Obvious then Discredits them as much as he can in the middle of his speech then ends it with a "Not trying to take anything away from them" or a "Full credit to them tho" and something along those lines. Just like the weasle's channel. Hes very sus about this.
Showed his true colors against Dagestani fighters
Interesting how Khamzat used his post fight interview to call for peace between all religions and Ariel doesn’t even acknowledge his amazing speech
I admit I might be reaching here, but it seems like Ariel tends to be rather negative towards a “certain group” of people 🤔
1) discredits Islam’s win with many backhanded “compliments” while putting over Volk
2) discredits Khamzat’s win, implies he doesn’t deserve title shot and questions if he may be “overrated”
3) says that Magomed should have been disqualified, implies that he committed the foul on purpose
I agree. He’s partially annoyed they won’t come on his show as much (except khamzat), but I think his beef with Ali plays a role in his negative bias. Plus, he’s not too happy with Muslim fighters being vocal about the Middle East situation
I agree with everyone’s comments about Ariel’s back hand compliments and discrediting Islam win but let’s say it how it is. Ariel hates Muslim fighters always roots against them.
I’m sorry Ariel, if Islam had out wrestled Volk and won in the later rounds by a submission I would agree that short notice would have been a factor. He got is head taken off in under 3 mins. Alex was supposed to have the upper hand in the striking. If you look at the first fight, Islam actually landed the more hurtful strikes but wasn’t sitting down on them, in the rematch he did. Volk at 155 will always be open to getting finished as he doesn’t carry power in his hands.
Islam was not shushing because he knocked out Alex he did that because he didn't want to celebrate because of what is going on in Gaza!
Volks bad defense against headkicks would still have been there regardless of the camp. It has existed his entire career, it's how he lost 2/3 fights.
I disagree with you.Craig Jones would have prepared Volk for it following his plan to kill sambo.
Makhachev also used that in 1st fight but he wasn't using much because he thought Volk's grappling wouldn't be good enough, he probably didn't think he would need a striking strategy for Volk, then he understood and worked on that.
His height is a liability for that. It is something he should have been drilling more if he had aspirations of success against taller fighters at 155.
That's a really good analysis. Islam's team planned that perfectly, by switching to a striking based offense. Islam is so good that he was able to simply switch to striking, and he easily stopped Volk. Volk was never hurt that bad in 75 minutes of fighting Max Holloway, which is crazy. @@timurjack8773
@@KeyserSoze23this is exactly right
His height and also Islam has a clean head kick and throws it in almost every fight (it's his best strike)
How could Volk have defended himself from a head kick with a full camp?
Ariel, if we are going to talk about “all things MMA,” let’s also talk about the fact that the first fight was FOUR to one Islam and that making it a controversy was completely unfair. As Luke Thomas said, in this rivalry, Islam was better everywhere.
Right when I heard Ariel start the conversation with the first fight being a “razor close decision”.. I knew he’d be on Volks nuts the whole time. Islam is the better fighter, period.
It wasn't a clear 4-1 though. Rounds 2 and 3 WERE razor close. If a judge scored that fight 48-47 Volk it wouldn't have been a robbery. It could've also been 48-47 Islam, and 49-46 Islam if you gave him both the toss up rounds. Trying to argue like it was just some clear, dominant 4-1 victory that wasn't close is just ridiculous. I guarantee you ISLAM wasn't confident waiting on the scores. So yes, it was razor close. You can literally win all 5 rounds and the fight still be razor close.
Did you watch the first fight or just listen to Islam in the build up of this one? It was 3-2 and Volk was winning for the first 4 minutes of 2 of the rounds he lost. It was a very close fight.
@themonsterbaby , giving 2nd round to Volk makes no sense. Because the biggest shot that wobbled Volk came in that round, then Makhachev also scored a takedown in 2nd round as well. 3rd round could go either way, 1st and 4th, as well as 2nd round were clearly Makhachev's.
So its either 49-46 Makhachev or 48-47 Makhachev, Volk himself knew he needed a finish in 5th round thats why he changed his strategy and took more risks in that round.
As well as Volk's coach said they lost first 2 rounds and need to win last 3, then they lost 4th round, meaning they needed a finish in 5th.
They just expected an outcome in the first fight like we saw in the second fight and therefor they cant see that Islam actually won the first fight pretty clear.
To the OG fans, was Ariel always salty like this when the Dagestanis win or was it after his fall out with Ali
Since Khabib and Ali got beef with him the whole team doesn't come on his show. So he doesn't see a reason to promote them while Volk/Izzy regularly come on. In the past he lowkey made comments to descredit their performance, but it's becoming more obvious now.
@@footballhd1111 thanks makes sense, it’s so blatant
Islam & Khamzat also took the fight on short notice as they were both training for completely different opponents. Also you can't train for a head kick, so regardless if he had a full camp won't make a difference. Islam was just much stronger this time as he didn't have to cut weight and travel too far etc
Yeah agreed
True
I have no idea how it would've went with a full camp. But a camp wouldn't have made him eat that kick any better. Volk always blocks head kicks wrong, nobody's ever been able to capitalize on it. Until now. So i think this puts a pretty final end to this chapter. If he wore him down and subbed him in the 3rd, 4th round or something it might've been conditioning. But a head kick 3 minutes in i don't know that a camp would've mattered. He's still the featherweight king, still a champ, still one of the greats. Islam is just better. (And I'm saying this as somebody who was rooting for Volk)
That’s actually not fully true. He was knocked out with one before,max dropped him with one, and islam threw multiple in their first fight but volk kept blocking it. This kick was different as it was going over his head and not just to his guard
Actually if you are in better shape, you can take a better shot. So it might have made a difference.
@@dano3915The kick was going over his head, not just his guard. How can he eat that kick even if he's in better shape with a full training camp preparation? No one expecting that.
@unthinkable97 you hear the commentary team talk about it all the time. If you are in better shape, you can take a better shot. So just saying, there may have been a possibility. We will never know tho.
@@dano3915 I actually think full camp volk just would’ve seen it coming like he did every other headkick islam had thrown at him in the first fight
Don't know if i agree with the fight going different if Volk had a full camp. Mighty Mouse predicted that head kick would be there and we've seen Volk be hit with it before in his only other stoppage loss and dropped in the Max fights.
what’s the video called? is it on his youtube?
@@agallonofwater yeah it's in his most recent upload
Yup, the biggest difference was 24 hours rehydration in Australia compared to usual 36 hours. Both Volk and Craig Jones said before 1st fight 24 hours rehydration was advantage for them.
Yeah I watched those videos Mighty Mouse called it ..he said that kick would be there all day and he was right!
Mighty mouse was saying than islam needs to go to body and volk’s head will be there because of islam’s height. Not having fight camp impacts stamina and sharpness of strikes. No training prepares you for headkick damage absorption
I disagree that a full camp would have made a difference..We have seen Volk be susceptible to head kicks in many fights, it was no secret..Someone finally exploited that hole in his game...Everyone is beatable...We build these guys up as super human, news flash, their not....
Its always funny how people act everything was known after the fight.
He was so prone to head kicks Yair(better kicker than islam) didnt head kick him.
Or islam in first.
Or max in 75 minutes of fighting.
Or ortega.
Or tkz.
But he was always crazily suspectable to headkicks right?
@@imma5761 Yair did head kick Volk, it was exactly like Islam's first head kick, hit, but just missed the mark, and that's true for alot of his fights..Max did head kick Volk, sat him down..And I've seen 20 analysts talk about Volk and head kicks, like I said, it's no secret...
@@realeyesrealizereallies6828 yair head kicked volk into clear knock out?
Are sou from parrarel universe?
@@realeyesrealizereallies6828and guess what he fought yair in a full training camp
@@realeyesrealizereallies6828You’re full of it. No one was saying his weakness is a head kick. Before this he only took one good head kick and it was from max in a fight that he still won.
Absurd to me how Khamzat is getting more flack for beating Kamaru freakin Usman (!!) Than anyone else on the card. Usman is T3 fighter of the last decade. Broke his hand in RD1 & still isn't all that experienced. He showed tremendous growth & maturity.
Yeah, I really don't get it. Ariel goes on about Leon like he's the second coming of Christ for beating Kamaru. What Khamzat did in the first round was insane.
I don't understand why anyone doubted Usman. LOOK at Usman... Literally, LOOK at him. He's one of the scariest, most naturally gifted athletes at 170 pounds. Chimaev is not a genetically gifted freak athlete with freak cardio. Usman has some of the best takedown defense in UFC history, and before his fight with Leon, he had a 100% takedown defense. Nobody has 15 fights in a row without getting taken down or hurt once in a fight, and he was never taken down, and never injured in a fight, and had won 15 fights straight! Usman was going to be the pound for pound best fighter in history if Leon hadn't landed that head kick.
He shouldn't get flack but it's fair to say this didn't earn him a 185 title shot.
EXACTLY!?!
@@KeyserSoze23I'd give you that but Dana really doesn't like when people turn down title opportunities and Dricus is the only other guy.
What about Conor then? Never defended the belt at 145 and was awarded the shot against Eddie instead of Khabib
Thank you New York Ric! You can tell what Ariel is doing with the “not taking anything away from Islam”. We JUST DONT CARE if Volk took the fight on short notice. And hey, Conor knocked out Jose in 13 seconds. Anything can happen in MMA including Volk having a full camp and still getting knocked out in the first. Furthermore, Usman didnt get knocked out either. Independent NYR!
Ariel is crying inside and it is great to see! 🤣🤣
Helwani make an excuse in behalf of Volk afterwards says "no excuse whatsoever" sheesh!
The way he won takes the short notice out of the picture.
Jon Anik himself said the first fight was 4-1
Islams next 3 fights:
1. Charles rematch
2. Gaethje
3. 170lb title shot
But Gamrot Will beats Gaethje
Gaethje shouldn't wait for 1 year while Makhachev fighting Oliveira. Gaethje should fight a contender like Gamrot or Arman.
@@timurjack8773Gaejhe should fight makachev
Gaethje will sleep Gamrot..all you have to do is stuff his takedowns he's not a powerhouse standing up
both of the first 2 fights are stale. Justin gets what, a THIRD shot at the title now? Let islam fight colby or leon
Ariel, you can at least pretend to be happy for Islam winning.
You know, the thing is, you don't necessarily require a full training camp to experience a quick knockout in the opening 2 minutes. If you're truly a top-notch fighter, the goal is to never get knocked out, especially not in the first round. As for Ariel, he has a knack for throwing out a fair bit of malarkey every now and then. 😉
I believe that a full fight camp would have benefited Volkanovski. I also believe that it would not have changed the outcome
Against head kicks? 😂😂
Islam had 12 less hours to hydrate as well clearly wasn’t the same he even looked smaller at 284
@@bigda6407actually islam had more time to hydrate this fight than the first fight, and there was even the IV accusations. He looked much better this fight camp.
Ya I think if he had a full camp and trained for Islam he isn’t getting headkicked that fast but I could see him still losing either by decision or some sort of choke in the later rounds
@@rhysjones1108 Islam is not known for headkicks. Nice try. He would've lost the same way even with a full camp.
it feels like alot of people got Islam's post fight reaction wrong, he did not shush the crowd because "it's no big deal", he clearly said that he did not want to celebreate because people in Palestine were dying, just an FYI cause a lot people seem to misunderstand his gesture. PEACE
Ariel still hurt by “we have to cancel a lot of black belts” 😂
I just hope Volk is okay. It almost sounded like a cry for help post fight. Has a wife, new born, other things going on & all he can think about or be at peace with is in camp for a fight. Made me scared for how he'll end his career & how he handles retirement.
Yeah he sound like eventually he's gonna go down the Tony Ferguson ..BJ Penn path just don't know when to give it up smh 🤦🏽♂️
In Volk's situation, it's a race against the clock and father time..I think that's probably a somewhat normal response for the situation...Volk will be fine, and do far better than most...
feel like its more tyson fury like as oscar willis said in the post fight presser. He clearly cant comprehend it and hasnt come to terms with it as of yet
@@allpraisewebb1142
You people must be living in wonderland or something if thats all it takes to make you scared
Volks situation is what happens when a hot air ballon pops. He can thank Craig Jones, Dan Hooker and the rest of the Bias Aussies for blowing hot air up his ass making him think he won the first fight when in reality it was a clear 4-1 defeat.
Atleast he won the social media fight when he made a half hour video spinning BS about how he won the first fight.
First you were hypped Alex stepping in, now you are saying that he needs to take longer breaks. Classic Ariel.
Ppl think so highly of Khamzat he now gets no credit for beating absolute savages like Burns & Usman. Crazy to me. Broke his hand RD1 & still found a way to beat an all time great
Its the same with Islam. They have so much higher expectations of these guys. Volk just had to survive to be praised like a hero vs Islam after first fight.
We still need to see his striking more. His grappling is on another level already.
it was Burns who took the short stick. Kmazat literally has more chances then any other figther out there? because dana guive title shots to people who manipulate social media the most.- disgracefull
Khamzat Islaam Gregor... no1 deserved anything. withotu actual tournaments UFc is just a joke and a bussines@@notoftentold4076
Why am I not surprised that hes already throwing shade on Islam's win. Khabib must really have left this dude like a scorned girlfriend when he stopped coming on his show. Get over it already
Is Islam the only fighter to ever beat p4p #3 then p4p #1 then p4p #2, back to back to back?
And he did this by submitting the best submission artist and KO'd the best striker right?
Oh and not to meantion ending 2 double digit win streaks while he was at it, yeah?
In doing this does he now holds the longest win streak (13) in UFC LW history?
Correction - Islam has now matched Khabib with 13 longest win streak!
@@GeoffTaylor-xb2kq thought khabib had 12 win streak? Ah maybe one of Islams fights was a catch weight so not counted under LW streak? I could be totally wrong just going from memory
This should be at the top. This is factual truth
Just remember that 3 fights ago Islam haters SWORE he was a can crusher. And now he’s beaten the P4P #3, P4P #1, and P4P #2 consecutively all while breaking multiple double digit winstreaks in the process 😂😂😂
Remember when Ariel said Volk had nothing to lose
Well he did, he lost the pound4pound discussion and he lost the chance to ever rematch Islam again
Razor thin? Was it a split decision?
I am being honest here. The most impressive performance that night for me was Khamzat in the first round.
His wrestling domination over Usman was unbelievable literally no one ever done it to Usman. 😮 Let it be reminded that Usman take down defence was about 97% going into the fight. He just couldn’t find the opening for the choke.
He’s a purple belt bjj
These fanboys are unreal
Honestly, before the potential hand brake, Borz bullies tf outta Usman in that opening round!!
It was expected...His cardio is trash and Usman prove that
hes a one round man
He's too small for welter weight. Also Ariel is a worm
The worm got me. You just had to edit your comment (like me) with that "Also..." as if you forgot to write it the first time 😂
Who is small for 170? Makhachev? Probably if he doesn't add extra weight, but he might have speed advantage there, if Makhachev can keep up with Volk, who is probably the fastest 145er, Makhachev will be a lot faster than any 170er as well plus Makhachev's elite wrestling and grappling skills won't allow any 170 bully him, the only problem if he takes clean shots then power difference might be problem
Yeah that comment from Ariel was pretty dumb the dude already looks like a WW he's not small at all
I want Justin vs Islam. Fresh face for Islam & not another rematch for him. First fight vs Charles was lopsided. Justin B2B incredible Ws vs Fiziev & Poirer too.
For sure. They need to put Justin Gaethje in there immediately. Because: IT'S JUSTIN GAETHJE!!!!! This isn't even a debate. Justin is the most exciting fighter, every person in the world loves his fights. Get him a title shot ASAP.
Imagine Islam knocks him out with a punch. Like that would turn the world upside down. 😂
That fiziev fight was close and if not for that last injury fiziev suffered he would be back in the top 5 . That guys kick boxing is insane.
this guy in the black shirt needs his own show, he is good!
Great Performance by Islam! He shut down all the haters & doubters, specially that it's early notice, a knock out first few seconds of the fight makes 0 difference if it was full camp or not!
Volk had the weight, Cardio, Muscles, Power, his extra 'full camps' (2 more coaches) were for grappling & wrestling, which isn't how Islam won anyway.
0 Excuses! Win Volk standing without taking a hit, win Oliveira by submission, middle of octagon through striking. Respect the champ!
The catch 22 is that Khabib still coaches and spars with Islam, so Islam's success still contributes to Khabibs legacy. Father's Plan
Had Khamzat not broke his hand he would've ran thru Usman. Was crazy to see him be outmatched in the wrestling.
A hand doesn't matter when your cardio is poor the same thing can be said for Usman...if it was a 5 round fight he would have finished Khamzat 🤷🏾♂️
Some guys don't have cardio. There is some genetic thing. Conor never had any cardio, despite training and being in seriously good shape. Same with Chris Weidman, he would train relentlessly, then get tired after 5 minutes. Some guys like Bisping, never get tired, and have a genetic gift. Colby Covington and Kamaru Usman have genetically the best cardio in the 170 pound division, they never get tired in high pace fights. Khamzat has basically 5 minutes of peak cardio, and he has to learn to fight around his cardio deficit.@@allpraisewebb1142
excuses
Khamzat is on a while different level . . I think he would beat Jon Jones if they fought at 185
@@aminkabuli9415not a chance
32:30 Are you losing your mind? Talking about Chandler getting a title shot of he beats Conor 😂 Chandler is 1-3 in his last 4 and the only win was over a washed Tony, and even Tony dropped him in the first and was beating him until he landed the one hail Mary kick. Chandler has zero to 5 wins in the UFC. His best win was the #6 Hooker. Beating McGregor wouldn't make him worthy of a title shot. Lol
Full camp or not he was getting kicked in the head
NY Rick bringing some integrity to the show on this one.
People forgot that this fight also a short notice for Islam. He was preparing for other guy and then suddenly it changesd to a fighter with a whole different style and shape. And it was a first round TKO, as a pro fighter who train everyday you can't make an excuse for a first round TKO because in the first round is still about the game plan technique ets cause both of fighters still have the same energy and stamina.
That's not a thing lol. Let me guess, when Khabib had a full-camp and Al Iquinta had 2 days notice, it was Khabib who was actually fighting on short notice? Khabib/Islam would be physically incapable of cutting enough weight to take a fight on less than 2 weeks notice out of camp
Full camp would not have saved Volk from that 1st round head kick KO.
As for what should be next for Makhachev, would rather see a fresh match up with Justin than another rematch with Charles, after this rematch with Volk.
As for Khamzat, agree that he hasn't earned a title shot after not being able to finish shot notice Kamaru. So why not DDP vs Khamzat as the #1 MW contender fight?
Really how pissed are you Ariel?
To say this fight wouldn’t turn out the same with a full camp is like me saying the first fight wouldn’t have been so close if Islam wouldn’t have had a bad weight cut. But we always forget that part when talking about the first fight
Exactly , they always forget that Australia has its own unique rehydration rules
Alex actually blocked that kick with his hand and head, unfortunately it still went through. So that's all she wrote.
Yep, he blocked that kick with his head - it was devine!
First fight was not razor thin. Watch with sound, Islam won 4.75 rounds. That’s what it was unanimous…
Volk's best chance was their first fight. Islam was still inexperienced especially vs elite talent & in a 5 RD fights. He keeps getting better. Islam would've won even if he had a full camp.
Are you saying Islam was inexperienced just ONE fight back, come on are you serious?! Islam had some serious trouble with the weight cut due to having 12h less for the dehydration, everyone could see his body, it wasn't what it usually has been in his previous fights
I agree. Look at Volk's 1st 5 rounds with Max and his 3rd 5 rounds with Max. He improved because he learned to fight 5 rounds, that was Makhachev's 1st 5 rounds and more importantly 24 hours rehydration was a big disadvantage while fighting a smaller opponent because smaller fighter will be affected less than the bigger fighter, plus the Australian crowd was amazing and full of energy, in the end Makhachev still won 49-46 or 48-47. In my opinion that decision win is as impressive as Oliveira finish win because when you consider all the disadvantages that Makhachev had in Australia.
@@afrosrb7828 don't underestimate how much 1 fight can teach somebody.. especially one of that magnitude and how it went.
@@sportsfan_913 That's not my point, I'm aware of that and agree, but your wordings make the sentence having a whole different meaning. You wrote _"...still inexperienced"_ which implies that Islam hasn't had any experience in general prior the last fight :)
155 is a stagnant division rn it needs some fresh contenders.
Dustin Justin Chandler Dariush have blocked the division. Time to bet upon Gamrot, Arman, Fizieve. Give fair chance to Olivera
What's you are saying doesn't make sense.. porier had his full camp when he was kicked in the head., kamaru had full camp when he was kicked in the head when he was winning throughout.. so it can happen even if you have the full training camp or not.. any minutes head kick can take you off. So please
We know Ariel is mad asf.
The first fight was not razor thin it was a unanimous decision between three judges. I give Islam P4P King all day long. I totally disagree with you Ariel that it would have went any different with Volk with a full camp because Volk biggest issue is that Volk is susceptible to head kicks, so I see it going the same way. It happened early in the fight and Volk was fresh so there are no excuses either.
Islam and his team have been working on the body and head kicks for sometime now against Volk so it was the greatest win the UFC so far!
Islam rolled him like a cigar and smoked him!
Islam will fight anyone, but I would give it to Justin Gaethje, because Charles is a risk that he pulls out again, and can't be trusted.
I totally disagree with Ariel and keeping Islam at 155...Ariel is just hating on Islam again! Nobody wants to fight Islam at 155 - He just wants Islam to stay because he knows if he fights Colby he will win and become double champ! Plus Islam fighting Charles twice is just slowing that division down, and after beating Charles in the second round submission the first time around....who else can beat him at Lightweight! He is ready for 170! I say let him defend both belts!!
If volk had a full camp Helwani would say the win was a fluke by a lucky head kick KO
_"if he[Volk] had a full training camp, he doesn't get KO'd in the first rd... Thats not me taking anything away from Islam"_
😂🤣😂🤣
100%, thats precisely what you are doing. A full training camp wouldn't have prevented that kick. Its not due to fatigued or # of reps in the gym... Makhachev's team saw something and they capitlized on it, simple as that.
Mighty Mouse even called it b4 the fight, doing a whole video on how Makhachev can win with that kick going off of success he had with it in the first fight.
And just to add... Even as a huge Makhachev fan, much respect & love to Volk, dude is the epitome of a class act. And it was sad hearing Volk's comments afterwards about fighting keeping him leveled. Regardless of everything, Volk is an all time great!
Believe me if Volk had a full training camp, took a good nap, and they changed his diaper before the fight, he still would have lost!
bro ur saying gaethje deserves it over oliveira because of the poirer ko when oliveria subbed poirer and then also beat gaethje make it make sense
Ariel is being baised to Alex because he has visisted him a few times 🤣🤣
Khamzat did slow down as the fight progressed but I think we are all giving usman more credit bc we thought it would just be a blow out of a fight but I definitely think khamzat won comfortably
Lol I wouldn’t say comfortably if that was a 5 rounder I would say Usman was gonna win with the way he was slowly starting to piece khamzat up. Khamzats a worldbeater in the first round but if you can weather the storm it seems like he’s very beatable for a couple top 5 guys
@@rhysjones1108 Or khamzat takes him down for 2 more rounds yeah usman was out striking him in moments but khamzat proved he could still take him down late
@@quinton5072 he didn’t have the gas tank for that and everyone knew it, we have now seen multiple times he starts strong and finishes weak. If he has a weakness, it’s that, and he gets sucked into a dog fights easily.
@@rhysjones1108 he still took usman down every single round so I can reasonably assume he can do it 2 more times you assuming he’ll fall on his face and have nothing left is more of a stretch, and those take downs are against the guy with the best take down defense arguably ever so against others would be even easier
A full camp wouldnt have changed the case. First round round kick to the dom. These guys fight for a living. Camp is to strategies endurances and tactics. But they already know how to fight. 1st round k.o by that kick doesnt change camp or no camp. Give the man his flowers.
How many times did Conor defend his 145 belt before Eddie.
Lol true
Volk is such an inspiration and I hate to see him lose like that I hope he bounces back and takes his time for this illia fight no need to have a quick turnaround
Huge volk fan but cannot agree ariel, full training camp wouldn't have made a difference apart from possibly more durability due to not cutting weight so fast, but other than that nope, alex had had an opening for headkicks for hears, surprised you dont watch breakdowns etc as an mma fan and as someone that covers the sport, the weasle on youtube has mentioned his headkick defence for years
"Razor thin" man, it just wasn't. Objectively Islam won 4 rounds in the first, casuals will of course disagree.
Ariel I understand that Volk is your guy but there's no excuse. It was roughly a 3-minute fight, and anyone would get KO'd by that kind of head kick. The same thing happened with DC and Jon Jones; a head kick can take anyone down, no matter how well they've trained.
Dustin had full camp against Justin, didn't save him from getting head kick KO'ed
What did you think of Khamzats post fight speech?
Islam would have beat anyone in lightweight on that night , looked like a monster in there
Think there was a miss understanding - Islam said he didnt want to celebrate because of whats going on in Israel and Gaza not because he was "showing off".
Dricus had to turn down the fight due to injury which he stated on this show and was well known (should have been mentioned). Also he fought back to back multiple times before getting injured, way more than other contenders in the division. I was not sold on dricus even up to the Whittaker fight which I rooted for Whittaker, but he definitely deserves the shot over kamsat 1000%. I would be pissed if I was him.
I completely agree and i'm surprised Dricus isn't getting the credit he deserves. Since Whittaker moved up to Middleweight (9 years ago!!) his only 2 losses were against Adesanya who was untouchable at the time.
Dricus D is guy nobody really wants a part of he's a problem heavy hands big strong
Congratulations to the champion of the world!
People keep talking about Volk being compromised but no one is talking about Islam saying he didnt rehydrate no where near enough in their first bout in Australia.
Ariel claiming this ain’t happening in first round shows his MMA knowledge.
IT WAS A ROUND 1 HEAD KICK, VOLK W/ FULL GAS TANK.
How is he defending that any better with a full camp?
Ariel you're being a true hater. First win was a unanimous decision. Second was a statement. Stop making excuses. Full camp or not, result was the same
Dana white on Islam moving up. “he needs to fight a few more guy” also Dana giving him Oliver’s twice.
@31:27 talking about Gamrot "Oh yeah, Charlsin Gaethje" lol
The excesus after the fight 🤦♂️ yet before the fight people were discussing who wins. 1st round brutal ko negates every excuse
Full camp or not, islam would have knocked him out anyways
Everyone talking crap about Khamzat is hilarious. Wanna bet he beats Sean? Lol
How you warm up matters. 5-7 mins on treadmill, fome roll back, warm up back, rotator cuffs, bench the bar, then 135, then goto working sets. 2-3 mins rest.
You can do this until you are 65
Bro Ariel I’m positive hates Muslim fighters. This is the most bias review I’ve ever heard 😭 to put this in perspective he beat 3 P4P in a row in the span of one year, 3 OF THEM IN A ROW. Bro Ariel man don’t be bias man it’s starting to show first with khabib now with Islam
Islam makhachev said that there will be excuses if he wins this fight and there u see it. I think everyone is estimates haw good islam is.
Regarding Chimaev & the title shot…I’m guessing Usman only accepted the fight with the agreement that the winner got that shot.
Usman already beat Strickland at Welterweight, so he basically assumed he could be a 2 division champ with a win over Chimaev & it would be a crowing achievement before he retired. If that’s the case, it’s not Chimaev’s fault that he’s getting a title shot off of a lackluster fight.
Don't think that a full camp would change the result for Volk, but anyways I have big respect for both guys. Legendary fighters and characters
I think it’s clear: we need MMA’s first triple threat match!!!
If Justin gets the title shot he needs to change camps or at least bring special people in for training. Trevor Whitman is good with striking but khamzat proved against usman that there's many levels to the wrestling game.
This guy praised and in the same time slip a knife under it. No one should trust this Ariel guy, he speaks with a double tongue.
there's no excuses.
Volk on a full training camp would’ve blocked the kick differently? Come on bro. DC knew it was coming and still got caught.
This autoplayed while i was at work. As soon as Ariel pronounced mackachev's last name I immeadietly had to stop working and switch the video.