Is Chiefs-Ravens a must-win for Lamar Jackson, what would it take for KC three-peat? | THE FACILITY
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- Emmanuel Acho, LeSean McCoy, James Jones and Chase Daniel discuss whether Kansas City Chiefs vs. Baltimore Ravens is a must-win for Lamar Jackson, along with what it would take for the reigning champs to three-peat this season.
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Yall keep talking that football talk💪💪💪
There's a reason why Chase Daniel was in the league for 13 years but only started 5 games. Dude is super smart and adds to the team. That's exactly what he's doing here and he makes sense because he hasn't taken too many hits like the others 😂
Agreed
well said.
He brings the coaching sense to the table... Which also might explain why he was a backup his whole career🤔 notice the others at the table are intense and very competitive hearted... They take losses personal, that competitiveness may explain why they got more playing time than Daniels. 🤔 I'm just saying... Think about it 🤔
@@thinkfirst5832 or hear me out. They're just more gifted athletically 😂
@@thinkfirst5832 tell me what round each guy at that table was drafted. I'll give you hints one was a 2nd, one was a 3rd, one was a 6th and one wasn't drafted at all. 🤔
A must win game in week one? What are we talking about??? Who writes these scripts? 😂
Acho lol he puts so much pressure and has so much hate towards Lamar Jackson!
Acho
Fr a week one must win is crazy. Like what you might as well give up on the season if you lose the first game?
The media have called regular season games between the bills and chiefs must win. The bills win the regular season "must win" game, then proceed to lose the playoff game to the chiefs down the road.
It’s not a must win but he definitely has to win it
I believe If both of the teams have a tied record by the time the playoff arrives. I think the number 1 seed will go to who wins this game but Im not entirely sure. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
Adrian Peterson was literally like an God from mountain Olympus
Facts greatest running back ever
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@@Jason-cz3bvvaluable contribution
What does literally mean?
Means without exaggeration, which is funny bc the reference doesn't exist.😊😊
Don’t matter. If Lamar loses the narrative is “Mahomes is his kryptonite” and if Lamar wins the narrative will be “Can he do it in the Playoffs”. Don’t buy into any of these media personalities, they are paid what to say
Exactly!!!
Most definitely
Well said
💯
Bingo
I wish yall would stop trying to think for Lamar, his mental toughness is stronger that most
…. *breaks down in every big game of his career
@@leekspeaks8944well we know that’s a lie he wouldn’t have any playoff wins if that was true
@@michaelnance8917 He beat Ryan Tannehill and rookie CJ Stroud. Nothing to crow about. He's 2-4 in postseason and in those 6 games has 9 TD's and 9 turnovers. Its a wonder they won at all. So, no....he's not a big game QB (yet).
@@michaelnance8917was peyton mentally weak? Lamar takes more criticism than most qbs in the league.
@@michaelnance8917 2 playoff wins for a 2 time mvp is horrible. He sucks in the playoffs. That’s a fact.
I find laughable that Shady say when “we” won SB 😂 he talking like he had some input on the Bucs success that season. Dude was basically a reserve for TB, I forgot he was even on that roster tbh😂
I mean he already said he didn’t do nun in them but u can’t say he’s not a champion he still has a ring
@@marcosbenavides8394 yeah he also won one with the chiefs as well 😂
Everyone on the team matters and contributes to the team's success. Even the people scrubbing the locker rooms get a little crust of the glory.
Ain't touch the ball in either of them Mark Madsen did more for the Lakers than Shady
@@AgainstAllOdds5200 lmao talkin bout mark madsen haaa i remember dude
It’s not a must-win. It’s one game in the regular season. Both teams / QB’s will play well and it’ll be a close game as usual.
Who plays to lose? It’s a must win. Pride is on the line.
@@brotherx6205Ravens pride don’t break over a lose we literally still have the whole season of course don’t play to lose but if they lose it’s not the end of the season or the world
@@michaelnance8917 that type of attitude keeps a team in the "could've been great" category. sounds like ravens nation doesn't have a sense of urgency. you have to carry a mentality all the way through to the post season
I watched the game and came to this question it was a must-win. Neutral fan here Ravens are not beating Mahomes this year. I don't see how anything has changed from last year.
Jones is a clown . He says Lamar can’t beat mahomes at his worst .. lol like the ravens didnt run the ball 6x, like the ravens didn’t have every single call go against them as if Taylor swift had some pull, and on top of that.. every thing that could’ve went wrong , DID GO WRONG. Zay fumbled on the goal line and still only lost by 7. You are completely DELUSIONAL if you think Lamar doesn’t think he can beat mahomes lol 🤡🤡🤡
Stop it
The dude with loser mentality
True. He can beat that team
Forgot to mention Lamar throwing into triple coverage which resulted in a pick
Shady just killed his argument the Bucs lost twice to the Saints and won in the playoffs the most important game
The Saints didn't have Patrick Mahomes, it's different
What’s you legacy, Lamar will be a Legend. Y’all talk about Lamar more than any other qb.
Media loves Lamar
Who votes for MVP, the media.
Lamar has never come close to throwing for 4000 yards. I think Lamar love is odd.
@@donarmstrong2182 dude got handed a MVP last year cause everyone Hates on Dak even tho all his Numbers were BETTER
I guess Lamar is the only one with a losing record vs Mahommes
I think he’s the only one that it really matters because if he or burrow can’t beat him then who will?
He's 1-4 against Mahomes. That kind of record is expected for rookies and Baker Mayfield, not expected for a 2 time MVP.
He also has a LOSING record in the PLAYOFFS🤷♂️
Lamar plays against the Chiefs defense. Pat plays against the Ravens defense. They don’t play against each other
Thanks for the info wasn’t sure
And ravens have had a better defense each time yet, mahomes is astronomically superior in head to head stats interesting how that works
As long as lamar stays on time and take what the defense gives him and noting else the ravens should win
😂
They say Lamar needs to win but if he wins the goalpost will be moved and they'll say he has to do it in the playoffs
💯 the media is picked to write these takes
It has become a one hundred million dollar industry hyper criticizing Lamar. Whenever sports shows don’t know many facts about Lamar’s career they just go to criticizing him and down playing his career.
Lamar is a good regular season QB but bad in the playoffs, two things can be true. You can be the best player in the regular season MVP, but can be a bottom 15 QB in the playoffs. He is 2-4 for a reason, stop acting like people are making things up.
1-4 against Mahomes, Losing record in playoffs lol😂.
@@AilmanF2P he still was in afc championship game which one away from superbowl lamar be gettin 1st round bye which is basically playoff wins...every other qb had been lauded for been making the conference championship game for decades but now since its lamar it just playoff record now lol haa goalpost movin mfers...
@@AilmanF2P he did not play like a bottom 15 QB in last years playoffs. You’re making stuff up.
@@wadefield4360 burrow is 1-4 against Lamar.
It’s so crazy that none of these analyst talk about how if the chiefs D doesn’t play lights out in the playoffs, the chiefs don’t win another ring. Give them boys credit!!!
Facts because that O was shut out in the 2nd half!!
@@StudentOfLife365 Plus in the SB the chiefs only offensive touchdown in regulation came from a muffed punt.
Everybody know the Defense was the reason the Chiefs won last year, their offense was bad for most of the season and only looked fine at the end. But this year the offense should improve and carry more of the load.
Since when was week 1 a must win for anyteam?
It's not!! They're bugging!! It's always some special narrative for Lamar and no one else!!
Shady trying so hard to have a hair line he has a straight circle in his head
Lamar never said it was a revenge game
It is an actual lie that they caption it so. Lamar expressly said it's NOT a revenge game
I SAID THE SAME THING!! THEY'RE MISQUOTING LAMAR
Ravens MUST win for everyone who is sick of Taylor Swift!!! PLEASE, for the love of God, win this game, Lamar!!
If you fail over and over you just gotta keep going till you do. Just look at the founder or Starbucks. Dude got rejected for business loans like over 200 times and now he’s built a legacy of a business.
Big facts. Rejection and failure is just more ways that you found out that it didn't work. Until you do!!
I think it’s a must win in forms of locking the #1 seed for the bye week in playoffs .. win 1 game and you in the AFC chip again
Emmanuel Acho is insufferable. How can anyone stand to listen to this guy talk? Jeez…
I swear
Lamar Action Jackson will Win Tonight! GO RAVENS!
And then lose again in the playoffs 💯 Go Chiefs!
AGED PERFECTLY🤣🗑
😂 😂 how that work out for u
Herbert puts up a better performance against mahomes😂
@77waygodh11 He hasn't So Far!
James excellent Takes
James is a loud 🤡
I love the new show guys.....BEST OF LUCK
But the name has to go. It doesn't roll of the tongue
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3 new offensive linemen then the offensive lineman coach died its week 1 new defensive coordinator and week 1 but when it come to lamar it’s still a must win
1-5, thats the issue. Did all those things happen in the playoff last season? If not it's excuses, i know a guy that his receivers had the most drops in the NFL. His RT had the most penalties in the last 20 years of the NFL, his #1 receiver played awful and was injured. The year before he won a Super Bowl on 1 leg after getting injured. Stop making excuses.
@@AilmanF2Plol yet, he still has the best coach and TE in football on top of a top 10 defense. Stop acting like mahomes does it by himself 😂. Lamar does more the ravens than Mahomes does for the chiefs.
@@AilmanF2P bro it’s a new season it’s not excuses 😂 these are facts what is 1 thing that I just said that isn’t true?
@@ravensflock2853 Does more for the Ravens in what sense? Has the Ravens made the SB with Lamar yet, because they won 1 with freaking Joe Flacco. And nobody does it by himself neither, including Lamar.
@@user-dw6ox2zh2g How many years has Lamar been in the league? Stop it. It's not just one game.
Daniel just find out 3 guys crazy it just week 1
Did shady play in the superbowl ? I thought he did not !
He did in 2020
@@jleww8959 Did he play in one ? was the question
@@nromo2396 oh yeah bro . He played in 2 superbowls . 2020 & 2018
@@nromo2396he ain’t play in the one his team won
@@camodeano3003 I thought so but every time they dance around it
Why is acho always on shadys nuts lol telling everyone how great he is . Talk about
Shady was a great player
This game definitely means something for the ravens
Its week 1!!!
The double standard is crazy !!!!!!!!
16:51 the "ayoo pause" got me weak then acho tried to hold it together 😂
This a team game , the ravens got to beat the chiefs. It’s not going to hurt Lamar going against the defense, he got to destroy the defense. The ravens defense got to beat Patrick Mahomes
@@aritaeus1432 The Ravens did their job last year they held the Chiefs offense to 17 points and what happened Lamar still couldn’t get the job done
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NAH
I toed ya so 😂
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Chase Daniel 💯💯
Failed to mention the duel between John Harbrough and Andy Reid, it’s more about that than anything
exactly and as a Ravens fan I wish more people would bring that out. Reid is simply a better coach that makes adjustments. Lamar would be where Patty is with better coaching and a team that got quality receivers early on. We STILL don't have a top tier receiver but Zay is getting there
@@coreywade6710Just stop Lamar can barely sit in a pocket and read a defense when he has to. His arm and ability to read a good defense in the playoffs is severely lacking no matter what coach he has. First it’s he runs to much now they pass to much. Sorry to break it to you but it’s Lamar.
@@Bigrie4115 Clearly you don't watch enough games because he hates running at this point and would rather pass and you don't get 2 MVP's not being accurate. Did you not watch the Texans game or are you like most people listening to media and not seeing the full truth?
@@coreywade6710 Nope watched every playoff game of his and he was avg to below avg i mean just look at the stats in playoffs compared to regular season and you got your answer. He is the reason the ravens have not won anything and probably won’t unless he becomes a better passer.
@@coreywade6710 6 Tds and 6 Int in 6 games are you really gonna die on that hill?
his only win against Mahomes (in 2021) was a fluke anyways. The Chiefs were well within field goal range with less than 2 minutes left and Clyde fumbled and gave the game away. Mahomes was 24/31 for 343, 11.1 avg, 3 TD 1INT with a 131.5 rating. Lamar threw an INT into the end zone in triple coverage in that game as well.
It was NOT a fluke. It shows Lamar's greatness. He threw 3 picks and STILL won.
Mahomes win in 2018 was a fluke too. But you don’t mention that
James is just excellent with his takes I really feel too that lemar needs to win this game tonite just to feel mentally satisfied beating the chiefs
Shadys A.P. hitting like Benard Hopkins
I’m noticing a pattern here. Are you guys going to steal all of FTF’s segments?
FTF doesn’t have a monopoly on must-win, foo.
Wrong
Let's face it Lamar Jackson is essentially Steve Nash when he won his 2 MVPS. Steve Nash was at best Top 5 player to some and others way Lower in the league when he played. But like Steve Nash got the MVPs because of Team Wins during the regular season. Had the Ravens suffered 1 or 2 extra losses, that MVP Award would have gone rightfully elsewhere.
I don't think it's a must win for either team
No it's not it will just be a litmus test to see how far apart these 2 teams are from each other
The Ravens will continue their winning streak playing away from home.
Nfl top 100 still put Lamar over a 3x champ that’s crazy the hype with this dude
It was a regular season award. It did not include the Superbowls. Sheesh.
The PLAYERS voted. That's THEIR prerogative and expertise.
Definitely not a must win it's literally first gamebut I get ravens wanna get good confidence after last season
Just when you thought undisputed was getting bad, they came out with The Facility…
it sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've tried but Shady just doesn't do it for me as a pundit. But he's Acho's friend so he'll keep being safe.
This show is tough to listen to. It's like The View with all the laughing and yelling.
The Correctional FACILITY.
😂😂
C.Daniels view/mindset on the Lamar topic clearly shows why he was a CAREER BACKUP!
THE FACILITY?????
Right like who came up with that
@@derrickmason7457had to be Acho 😂
@@Itsdawrldspot on. He thinks he’s the smartest one in the room lol
@@ManUntdForeversmartest one in the facility lol
@@TheWizeGod74 meh, to each their own. I think Acho overcompensates a lot because he doesn’t know much. But that’s just my opinion.
Winning in KC would be a huge confidence boost for Baltimore!
That story about Brady was cute by shady but Brady didn’t beat saints Drew Bree’s beat the saints. Brady played horrible that game and bucks defense bailed him out .
Exactly lmaoo he won because Jared Cook fumbled n Brees arm fell off
Excuses. A loss is a loss
@@TYreLL0416 stop dickriding
The ravens r good but they can't get by the chiefs.
And the chiefs have a great squad also not only mahomes and travis...
They will.
@@michaelroelant7134 They show up when it mattered most, but the Chiefs is a great team overall, and so is the Ravens.
Chase adds exactly what these boys needed they be obsessed with the antics
ACHO, MCCOY, JONES, DANIEL,........IMMA TELL YOU THIS....JONES FORMER TEAMMATE "AARON RODGERS" WILL WIN IN THE AFC CHAMPIONSHIP AGAINST THE CHIEFS TO STOP A 3 PEAT.
Lmao I don't know why I thought dude was Blake Griffin
What gets me is that these teams they score 1st touchdown, coaches get all excited then all of a sudden they stressing in the fourth quarter. Look at Andy Reed HCCC throughout the game
No week 1 game is a must-win no matter which teams are playing.
I've heard Nick Wright say the Bills are in a "must-win" situation every year when the Bills play the Chiefs in the regular season...
And for 3 straight years, the Bills have gone into KC & beat the Chiefs. Ok, then what? What did that do? They ended up losing the playoffs anyway!
So none of that really mattered. Media heads out here putting extra stakes on the line, only for it not to matter anyway.
I’m still rockin with First Things First this is just speak with demoted Joy lol I know she’s sick 🤣
yall did Joy dirty
Damn Shady was blessed at the end of his career. To play with the G.O.A.T and baby G.O.A.T. And won championships😂😂😂
It all comes down to the coaching staff when we play the chiefs , but in that AFC Championship game it was both Lamar and coaching that game
What’s the standard for Lamar? He’s a 2x MVP already so regular season wins aren’t the question. He’s not changing his legacy on September 5th. It’s about January and ONLY January.
Tf is Acho talking about a must-win game in week 1? 💀
It’s so funny that these dudes are acting like it’s not a team sport lmao
"Patty"??? It's "Mr. Mahomes" to you.
Patrick Mahomes teams was better, Lamar just had a better regular season. Y’all gave Mahomes an excuse for last year.
Don’t call that man Patty
I hate hate hate the taking point. Lamar vs mahomes. In what world does that make sense? Lamar isn’t throwing against magomes he’s throwing against the defense. QB talking points are goofy just like these weirdos
Shady I'm a chess player but my mentality when I'm on the board is I'm the best in the world! My point is "if I don't think that I'm the best in the world then no one else will" So apploy LJ8 for his mindset his expectations for himself is on another level
What is this where is joy taylor ?
Pat is the 🐐
Only thing that makes Patrick better than lamar is his ability to take what the defense gives him he doesn't play anybody game but his own he stays on time and will take a checkdown he scrambles only to manipulate coverage for a better throw he plays the game within the game when lamar learns to do this he will be the greatest player weve ever seen
Exactly Patrick is playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers
Lamar does that a bunch. Andy Reid makes things easier for pat. Harbaugh is absolutely clueless when it comes to offense. He’s absolutely terrible.
@@ravensflock2853 no he doesn't I watch this team miss checkdowns after checkdowns they don't play on time
@@ravensflock2853And not just that he comes through clutch in big moments something Lamar doesn’t do
James Jones is the Shannon Sharpe of this show
Patrick is the next goat but I believe it was more about the other teams losing instead of KC winning. Ravens choked and the Niners choked. Brady had the same mystic. Teams would lose the game instead of New England actually winning the games.
If u lost to the Chiefs in the playoffs, then it's a must win from Niners to Bills to Ravens.
Quick question what if Lamar plays excellent and still loses what then heck he evens play better than pat now what QBs play against defenses period 👀
I mean can't we make the arguement about Brady vs Manning. I wish they had that comparison too
🤝🏾🤝🏾 nice lineup a BREATH OF FRESH AIR WITHOUT joy tbh
This is not a must win for Lamar, the must win is in the playoffs.
I remember a whole lot of talk about KC being cooked after opening game last season. Let's not act like week 1 dictates the outcome of the season.
This is definitely a must win for Lamar,because he’s just a paper tiger-until he gets a SB!
Chase Daniel is right. Like his view points
The set looks like The Dallas Cowboys locker room.
Set design should look like one of these modern locker rooms. Real plush type 💩 FS1 dropped the ball on this one 😊
Insane commentary by lost TV pretty boys who have lost connection to reality.
Week 1 has never been and will never be a mist win for any team in the history of the league.
I’m tired of watching some of these shows so these dudes can collect checks….. This combo ain’t it…. One of the gentlemen’s I think will do well tho.,,
KC is literally the only team in Baltimore's way. If Baltimore makes the Superbowl expect them to embarrass their opponent on national TV.
Should just have James Jones and Chase Daniel’s lol
Shady is really shady wow lol. “I played Tom, I played with Pat, they don’t say this” dawg it was blatant too lmao.
It’s a must win for both teams because it’s going to be the tie breaker for the postseason if they’re close in records. It’s the same when the bengals and chiefs meet next week these are the top teams.
"When his teams are better on both sides of the ball"
Absolutely ridiculous, the only season Lamar had more help on offense was this past season and guess what, his main guy andrews just returned from injury so the chiefs actually had the better offense in the AFC championship game. Also lets not forget lamar lost keaton and jk as well
They'll win because of Derek Henry tonight. Lamar knows there is nothing more for him to do other than beat Pat in the playoffs and win a SB
The best part of this show is not having Joy Taylor and her dumb takes. Just a bunch of dudes that played the game and having an intelligent conversation about the game.
Has Mahomes had a new offense?at all , this Lamar 3rd ,I repeat 3rd offensive coordinator get real