“Influencers die die also they have to get a premium brand” 😂 hands down the most honest reviewer ever! I just love Adrian, your reviews is like none other, informative, attention to details and most importantly not biased.
I started looking into the Arteon a few days ago and this is, by far, the best auto review that I have ever seen. You didn't get overly technical and spend a lot of time under the hood. You focused more on the cabin and the driving experience which is much more important to a standard driver, imo. The point you made about the key blew me away. It's a hard truth and such an excellent point to raise. Thank you for this. I will be getting a Lapiz Arteon in the coming days.
Update: I wasn't able to get the Lapiz Blue due to the shipping issues going on but I did get the Grey SEL-R. I've had it for two weeks now and this is one purchase that I'm actually proud of.
Hope you have gotten your Arteon. I have the 29121 SEL R-Line Premium in Metallic Black and absolutely love it. Driving is so enjoyable. It turns heads with jaws dropped everywhere I go.
@Cynthia Mitchell yes ma'am I did. I got the gray sel r and it's a dream. I'm loving the reactions I get too. The best one is "Arteon, what's that". LOL
The exterior of this car is absolutely beautiful and the engine spec is also very value for money, especially when you compare it to C200 or 320i. However, its the after sales service that im worried about. Having owned a 12-year-old mk5 golf gti and how unreliable the car is at that age plus the fact that those parts always have to be shipped from either singapore or somewhere else thus increasing the waiting time, i'd say I've had enough with VW. Having said all that, this Arteon is really really really value for money and if i hadnt picked up the G20 330i in May, i would've PROBABLY heavily considered this.
Based on your review on ride comfort, looks like the facelifted Arteon has much better ride comfort than the pre Facelift. I remember reading WapCar rating article that Sports mode just corrupts ride quality of Arteon without significant improvement in handling. Wow! That's an improvement on the facelift. Kudos to VW.
@@aimanfitri0iv Speaking of throttle response, earlier article mentioned that even at Comfort mode, the response is like Sports mode of Passat Elegance. I'm quite confused now. Haha
As to the question, I would go for Arteon any day. Overall package is way way better than C200 or 320i. That, considering I belong to perhaps to 10% of the population who don't care much on the brand prestige
Yup. You are the 10% who dont care about after sales and reliability and probably loves to visit workshop every 2 months and down time another 3-4 weeks waiting for spareparts to arrive..haha
but don't worry some of aftermarket they're already have a wireless charger for the car because this particular wireless charger for this car was available in selected countries
Betul kalau bandingkan dengan sedan lain seperti mercedes c-class..Audi A5 atau Bmw 3-series aku lebih pilih Arteon ni sbb dia mmg sporty dan canggih..mmg terbaik design VW Arteon ni
Hey Adrian, first time viewer here. Love your review. Also, I think the new Arteon has a new key (maybe in Europe only as far as I can tell from Autogefühl channel).
Since you guys only have this Arteon to review, it would be great for a more in-depth review all out which also covers handling and driving dynamics plus fuel efficiency (again those figures are indeed shocking and disappointing to me, will see that later). Overall Adrian decent and concise review. Expecting a more detailed one. Anyway take care and stay safe
I love the review and think the car is attractive. I think I can get past the VW brand vs BMW/Mercedes too. However the one thing that O can't get past is the previous horror aftersales service stories and parts reliability. Owning a RM250k car with dealer treating their customers like shit after transaction is the worse thing buyer experience one would want to avoid.
@@chinlongcham1017 Frankly based on the service price list based on the website, it is very expensive. Comparable or more expensive than Merc & Beemer. I don't understand at all when VW is in the same league as Honda and Toyota. But servicing price lol.
My father already buy the arteon like last night and it was amazing and the engine sound is not fake.well the arteon was first car on the road and my dad was first customer buy the arteon r line 4 motion
5 years ago .. "Wah the Passat B8 2L so impressive, it's like Golf GTI hidden in Passat body." Everyone was like "this is no brainer, best car for its price".. Reality is F30 318i are all over the road. Ppl like to compare specs and got impressed by them, but when the time to fork out the money from your wallet, it's a different story.. most still can't get over the badge especially comparing to Merc for the same price.. that's Malaysian..
@@mr123undead yes.. Another factor is if you buy the cheapest BMW or Merc, you still get to mingle around with the people who bought BMW M cars, AMGs, 5 series, E class owners in FB group, private BMW or Merc club. The Logo means something, more than just a car. When you buy the most expensive VW, but you only joining the VW club which mainly consist of Polo Vento buyers. If your car is a tool to build connection, which one will you choose.
For prestigious and reputation wise first choice always BMW or Merc but don't get it wrong to go for the entry level model even for 3 series or C class. 10 years ago people will react like wow you are driving a BMW 320 or Merc C200, but now driving the duo is just normal because an Accord or Camry is closing to 200k mark. Talking about F30 320i and Passat HL, they are aiming different people. You may find it surprise that many Passat HL owner include myself have compare both. F30 is great in badge and free service but in term of handling F30 may not outperform Passat HL who comes with XDS and adaptive suspension. Beside in term go practicality Passat is better off with large cabin and more comfortable ride. If I were single I will take F30 but with family Passat is better choice.
That is exactly what I have in the UK! Though this engine option has been dropped with the facelift. If you want performance, you have to go for the 325ps "R". Mine is the 280ps (in the yellow Tumeric!) pre facelift. I hardly ever see another, in any colour.
After sales service is very important and is a key factor when selecting a car brand. Regrettably, VW malaysia leaves much to be desired. Hopefully this changes in the future, as I’d imagine they wouldn’t get many recurring customers if this keeps up
VW Malaysia marketing team did a fantastic job with its brand awareness in early 2010, sales were pouring then after, so does their partner/vendor ecosystem blossomed. However, VW platforms sold during those periods are all lemons. After sales services were horrible. Arteon is a nice car definitely, but I'll wait for another year to see real life owners running in with real world problems. Hey, with 250k, I'll go for a volvo s60 T8!
You mentioned lemons. I do hear from many ppl they're okay with their VWs but mostly 2016 and after that. Also we've heard of many bad stories. Well just a small suspicion, did VW deliberately sell lemons??? Because cars with some issues can be acceptable but if many things give way how can it be acceptable??? Plus when go for repair and replacement, if problem solved fine good but if keep repeating like no tommorow susah juga. Worse is if after sales is bad, die laa. I know VW M'sia now is unlike before but I still hear reliability and after sales service issues. If anyone more qualified can comment on it, that would be fine. Frankly VW cars hard to complain, they're simply fantastic in almost everything. But I dunno why suddenly the thought of reliability, QC and after sales issues will pop in ppl's mind.
If compare between entry level 3-series and C class to Arteon, it'd be the Arteon without question. However, if it's a full spec C class, I'd take the full spec C class instead 😁👍
Around the last bit. When Adrian claimed VW as a premium brand. VW isn't a premium brand. The term volkswagen equates to people's car. Just becuz u pay premium price it doesn't mean its a premium car. Its just a good looking car with good performance. Good review in general but u disagree with the last point about VW as a premium brand
Not sure if you watched the whole video. I said "Premium brand matters a Mercedes or BMW" and in the conclusion I explicitly said the VW logo is the problem stopping people from putting their money down for this Arteon
Spec wise, the Arteon is bang on value for money. I'll choose it any day considering how mildly spec-ed the C200 and 320i is. But VW's aftersales is nothing short of horrid!
VW used to have more than 10 dealers/workshops in Klang Valley. Take a look into VW website today, it has gone down to 6 only in Klang Valley. Lots of them have closed down over the years like Wearnes, Wing Hin, TTDI etc.
Most Audi and VW uses plastic water pump that will crack and short lived that need costly replacement. Arteon can come with nice design plus unpredictable tedious problems. Either you buy with the unpredictable problems in mind or stay away completely .
Agree with you on the stupid material choice. Plastic is not logic for a component exposed to If within 5y warranty, can claim FOC. Can request or demand SC to change to metal impeller waterpump thermostat housing.
U mentioned in the video that the entry point for the premium compact sedan from Mercedes is the c200? I believe that is not true as the entry point for Mercedes premium sedan is the A200 sedan which is priced around rm230,000
Should said better than your Ativa though. Perodua fans come attack with different segments and pricing 😂😂😂 Put aside, Arteon looks more busy, i will choose passat over this.
I don't buy into the badge snobbery argument, unfortunately. My success will not be measured by my key fob... "it matters to people" who are shallow. If you need a car to be rated as successful, as Adrian says, "it's sad". This car oozes style, with performance to boot. Now where is my Saga AE key fob.... :)
Everything perfect except fuel consumption. 8.9L/100km is insanely high. If it's a Beemer or Merc with same power output I would expect it. However, VW on the other hand, makes extraordinary fuel efficient powerful cars. Hahaha. I expected it to be better than BMW, 8L/100km. Waiting for WapCar comprehensive fuel consumption test for Arteon.
@@aimanfitri0iv Anyway it may not be that bad considering this is more of an outdated engine. This EA888 Gen 3 engine has been used for a decade if I'm not mistaken from Golf GTI MK6 I suppose and followed by pre Facelift Passat. This engine tune used by Arteon is 2017. So it may be acceptable to some. Dammit next year US market will be getting another update of Arteon with a new engine. Most probably EA888 Gen 4. 300hp & 400Nm of torque. Almost sports car performance. Obviously fuel efficiency would be better. Hope that Msian market gets the same engine next year or 2023 would do. That would be great.
@@aimanfitri0iv VW rocked with DSG innovation but looks like they've stopped. 7 speed is too old, time for 9 speed at least. Would further enhance pickup, acceleration, extra ratios for highway cruising and better fuel consumption in highway
@@aimanfitri0iv The later update of the model should retain the same suspension setting as this facelift but I think the powertrain and gearbox combo need to be sporty and really fun unlike the comfort oriented nature. Having more torque and max torque should actually cover from much lower revs. 1.6k RPM is still too high. Between 1 & 1.6k, it's empty. Would be great if the max torque kicks in from 1.2k RPM with the same broad rev range.
How with the material and build quality ? Becos i hve watch mat watson ( carwow ) review and i found that their Arteon is not same as we got here . Like their Arteon is a 320hp and some other things i fogot . And another thing that Mat find out is they re using cheap material eventho it looks premium . Idk our version if it different or just same with the UK version.
Now I got it why WapCar wasn't able to hit 5.6s for 0-100. And throttle response and power delivery seem to be not quite dramatic or rapid. Another is the fuel consumption which is on the higher side. Because this car is only 1-2 month old and has only run 900 over km. Break-in period for VW is 1 500 km. Definitely mentioned in the manual. Usually during break-in, throttle response, brakes and fuel efficiency will not be at peak level. So I won't take the ratings outcome seriously. I think WapCar shall do a full rating next year. For other cars like Accord, Passat, pre FL Arteon, WapCar did the rating and review after quite sometime when the test cars have already achieved break-in period. My initial suspicion was the power delivery. No doubt this Arteon supposed to be smooth but I expect more pull and fun. It's okay hope to see a full review later on. Frankly I'm really surprised at the acceleration behaviour and fuel consumption. See later. I hope I'm right. It's my own experience with my car. When new, it was disappointingly sluggish and drank a lot of fuel. But once I went for 1k service and layer on slowly acceleration and fuel efficiency improved. Haha this particular Arteon unit is still virgin. I also read WapCar own article on break-in. It's pretty interesting. www.wapcar.my/news/running-in-your-new-car-still-relevant-2679
@@aimanfitri0iv thanks Aiman. But if Merc, Lexus & BMW on do it in time locally, why VW takes such a long time? U turn? V turn or W turn? Haha..even Proton X50 can do it better yo
both very different car because it's similar share platform but if you want practical go with the passat but if you want a sporty look go with the arteon
Oh gosh. I didn't expect this from B8. Build quality supposed to be higher than the Jap rivals. Well, I'm not really surprised because they use lots of plastic interior especially hard plastic. Or maybe your door panels, the pins weren't installed properly, poor workmanship at factory.
Malaysians drive cars to impress others, that's why you see people driving a bigger SUV car, premium brand just to impress. If they want a practical car with RV, they would choose a Toyota instead. VW is in a very vague proposition so we hardly see any of it on the road.
Its a very nice car indeed BUT the problem with the car is VW. I had such an awful experience with the service centres that I swore NEVER to ever buy another VW. I had the 2011 VW Passat CC. Drives like a dream but problems like nightmares. Bought at RM250K. Sold 7 years on the dot at RM47,300. In that 7 years, changed batteries 5 times (twice under warranty - 2nd one by threatening them), car got towed 4 times, changed window lifters twice, replaced oil sump on 2nd service (after threatening them again, claimed under warranty), motherboard changed under warranty, reverse camera malfunctioned from day one till I sold it. Seriously, the car drives like a dream on a good day. I am tempted to give the Arteon R go BUT.....I think I'll pass. Yes, it was Wearnes VW. You guessed it.
To me, that's just a silly PR reply from VW Malaysia. What's there to setup? At its asking price, for me, adaptive cruise control and AEB are compulsory. I'll pass :)
“Influencers die die also they have to get a premium brand” 😂 hands down the most honest reviewer ever! I just love Adrian, your reviews is like none other, informative, attention to details and most importantly not biased.
I started looking into the Arteon a few days ago and this is, by far, the best auto review that I have ever seen. You didn't get overly technical and spend a lot of time under the hood. You focused more on the cabin and the driving experience which is much more important to a standard driver, imo. The point you made about the key blew me away. It's a hard truth and such an excellent point to raise. Thank you for this. I will be getting a Lapiz Arteon in the coming days.
Update: I wasn't able to get the Lapiz Blue due to the shipping issues going on but I did get the Grey SEL-R. I've had it for two weeks now and this is one purchase that I'm actually proud of.
Hope you have gotten your Arteon. I have the 29121 SEL R-Line Premium in Metallic Black and absolutely love it. Driving is so enjoyable. It turns heads with jaws dropped everywhere I go.
@Cynthia Mitchell yes ma'am I did. I got the gray sel r and it's a dream. I'm loving the reactions I get too. The best one is "Arteon, what's that". LOL
Driving an Arteon since last December! Nothing short of brilliant!
hi sir , may i ask about the after sale services ?
Isn't it cabin is noisy ?
The exterior of this car is absolutely beautiful and the engine spec is also very value for money, especially when you compare it to C200 or 320i. However, its the after sales service that im worried about. Having owned a 12-year-old mk5 golf gti and how unreliable the car is at that age plus the fact that those parts always have to be shipped from either singapore or somewhere else thus increasing the waiting time, i'd say I've had enough with VW. Having said all that, this Arteon is really really really value for money and if i hadnt picked up the G20 330i in May, i would've PROBABLY heavily considered this.
Same, claimed a warranty and have to wait the stock to arrive from Germany lol waited for 2 weeks.
Never regret buying 2017 Passat Highline though
No one keeps a German car for 12 years anymore. These are great for up to 6 years, after that, it's best to trade it in for another
I jus dont trust conti cars, they are capitalist. Haha
@@anas7412 every car brand follows capitalism
Most VW’s are unreliable. And their unreliability is only exceeded by their abysmal after-sales service.
Adrian, absolutely agree with you. Putting the badge aside, Arteon wins👍. Good review and so compelling 🙏
Based on your review on ride comfort, looks like the facelifted Arteon has much better ride comfort than the pre Facelift. I remember reading WapCar rating article that Sports mode just corrupts ride quality of Arteon without significant improvement in handling. Wow! That's an improvement on the facelift. Kudos to VW.
me too I was reading similar articles as well
@@aimanfitri0iv Anyway for the fuel consumption, I'll wait for a real owner to show their FC after their 1 000 mile break-in. 8.9 is very shocking
@@aimanfitri0iv Speaking of throttle response, earlier article mentioned that even at Comfort mode, the response is like Sports mode of Passat Elegance. I'm quite confused now. Haha
@@royalprince5878 that is a lot of fuel use
@@royalprince5878 I think has been set by the individual mode where you can customise the driving respond and several others
As to the question, I would go for Arteon any day. Overall package is way way better than C200 or 320i. That, considering I belong to perhaps to 10% of the population who don't care much on the brand prestige
Yup. You are the 10% who dont care about after sales and reliability and probably loves to visit workshop every 2 months and down time another 3-4 weeks waiting for spareparts to arrive..haha
@@HK-gc7xz true lmao
@@HK-gc7xz never own arteon dun comment going workshop
Gearbox mecha was like 10yrs story on passat
Give opinion when u own 1
@@sampahtetapsam21 yup... I agreed with u.... As I'm owner of MK7 GTi since 2015 so it's nice to me compare to my 525 E60 BMW.....
@@HK-gc7xz I am a proud owner of 2017 Passat Highline 😉 You blow a
Arteon R line for me. A panoramic sunroof would be wonderful.
Your titled, I agree. A good review as always Adrian. Keep up the good job!
Looking forward to buy this car in another 2,3 years after I sold my first car. Thank you Adrian for this amazing review! 😎✌🏻
Semoga dipermudahkan segala urusan aminnnn 😇
Arteon will definitely catch the eyes if it is put side by side with the c200 and the 3 series.
Magnificently beautiful, both interior and exterior
hey..Lim Guang Eng in da house y'all🤣😂🤣
Fantastic review as always Adrian 👍🏽 hopefully Malaysians look beyond the badge with this one
Your reviews are one of the finest and at part with professional folks who might have a larger production budget. keep up the good work!
Suddenly want to earn 120k annually after watching this review. Good one Adrian
Appreciate the comment!
Bro, u earn 240k annually also can't afford.... the resale value drop
@@CP-qz2nb I don't think you care much about resale value when you earn more than 240k a year.
Minta maaf ya... 120k annual income, mana bole 'afford' except if you tak makan Besar, belanja benda lain la.
@@mrgto87 nowadays 240k annually oso not that much. I think 400k baru not think much on value drop
your hair is the center of attraction. :D nice review as always but VW after sale is a concern hopefully they have improved in that dept
Hope he comments on the aftersales service issue as I believe he has a Passat. Saw a Passat in front of his house when he was reviewing the interior
I choose ARTEON in my dreams!
Good review, now how to convince wife? Could you include those tips in future too?
Let me ask my married friends with nice cars 😂
Hahah😂
Still BBA rules
Hahaha 🤣🤣🤣
Change logo to Audi. Same as change Toyota logo to lexus.
but don't worry some of aftermarket they're already have a wireless charger for the car because this particular wireless charger for this car was available in selected countries
Yup and it looks easy to install
Betul kalau bandingkan dengan sedan lain seperti mercedes c-class..Audi A5 atau Bmw 3-series aku lebih pilih Arteon ni sbb dia mmg sporty dan canggih..mmg terbaik design VW Arteon ni
绝对同意,我今天定了,看了一年的车。我被他的外形,内在惊艳到。太美了。超越奔驰,宝马。竞价比极高
Driven a passat and f30 320i as daily comuter, they were superb. Cant imagine about this one.
I’ll never get bore of your reviews. The Arteon is beautiful and elegant.
实际看到此车,必定被惊艳到。太美了。性价比超过宝马320i 甚至330i,奔驰C200 OR C300。从马力,扭矩,700W的音响,4轮驱动,按摩座椅等,无钥匙进入,全车的尺寸,已超过他们,性价比极高。考虑一年,今天做了决定。相信不会后悔,
Hey Adrian, first time viewer here. Love your review. Also, I think the new Arteon has a new key (maybe in Europe only as far as I can tell from Autogefühl channel).
FYI this is the SEL / R-Line. The base model doesn't have all this stuff but still an excellent bargain at $28,000 Brand new in the USA
Since you guys only have this Arteon to review, it would be great for a more in-depth review all out which also covers handling and driving dynamics plus fuel efficiency (again those figures are indeed shocking and disappointing to me, will see that later). Overall Adrian decent and concise review. Expecting a more detailed one. Anyway take care and stay safe
Arteon looks more premium than a Bimmer, honestly. Great review, Adrian!
6:45 is only answer you need to the Arteon
I love the review and think the car is attractive. I think I can get past the VW brand vs BMW/Mercedes too. However the one thing that O can't get past is the previous horror aftersales service stories and parts reliability. Owning a RM250k car with dealer treating their customers like shit after transaction is the worse thing buyer experience one would want to avoid.
True, and the servicing price is undoubtedly premium, but the quality...
@@chinlongcham1017 Frankly based on the service price list based on the website, it is very expensive. Comparable or more expensive than Merc & Beemer. I don't understand at all when VW is in the same league as Honda and Toyota. But servicing price lol.
I can accept high maintenace cost but not visiting workshop frequently and long waiting time. Parts must be readily and reliable.
My father already buy the arteon like last night and it was amazing and the engine sound is not fake.well the arteon was first car on the road and my dad was first customer buy the arteon r line 4 motion
For handling I choose arteon😘😘😘 as I am MK7 GTi owner ...
whoa that blue colour 💙 😍 by the way, Adrian should get a hair band 😆
By the way that colour is called Lapiz Blue for this car i love this colour so much
im sorry but i had to say, just by looking at u i can feel the heat out there hahah anyways, nice review! to survey more of the arteon
5 years ago ..
"Wah the Passat B8 2L so impressive, it's like Golf GTI hidden in Passat body." Everyone was like "this is no brainer, best car for its price"..
Reality is F30 318i are all over the road.
Ppl like to compare specs and got impressed by them, but when the time to fork out the money from your wallet, it's a different story.. most still can't get over the badge especially comparing to Merc for the same price.. that's Malaysian..
Those f30 318i are purchased by MLM or insurance or property agents 😆 just like 218i nowsday
@@mr123undead yes..
Another factor is if you buy the cheapest BMW or Merc, you still get to mingle around with the people who bought BMW M cars, AMGs, 5 series, E class owners in FB group, private BMW or Merc club. The Logo means something, more than just a car.
When you buy the most expensive VW, but you only joining the VW club which mainly consist of Polo Vento buyers.
If your car is a tool to build connection, which one will you choose.
For prestigious and reputation wise first choice always BMW or Merc but don't get it wrong to go for the entry level model even for 3 series or C class. 10 years ago people will react like wow you are driving a BMW 320 or Merc C200, but now driving the duo is just normal because an Accord or Camry is closing to 200k mark.
Talking about F30 320i and Passat HL, they are aiming different people. You may find it surprise that many Passat HL owner include myself have compare both. F30 is great in badge and free service but in term of handling F30 may not outperform Passat HL who comes with XDS and adaptive suspension. Beside in term go practicality Passat is better off with large cabin and more comfortable ride. If I were single I will take F30 but with family Passat is better choice.
@@aeroline11 yes, I cancelled my booking for the 3 series & bought a VW
if only vw still include that special yellow color for this arteon, i'm pretty sure, it will be more outstanding than the rest..
That is exactly what I have in the UK! Though this engine option has been dropped with the facelift. If you want performance, you have to go for the 325ps "R". Mine is the 280ps (in the yellow Tumeric!) pre facelift. I hardly ever see another, in any colour.
After sales service is very important and is a key factor when selecting a car brand.
Regrettably, VW malaysia leaves much to be desired. Hopefully this changes in the future, as I’d imagine they wouldn’t get many recurring customers if this keeps up
Hows the VW spare part or services? Still the same as before? If we chose VW, aftermarket services should be as good as the other two
VW Malaysia marketing team did a fantastic job with its brand awareness in early 2010, sales were pouring then after, so does their partner/vendor ecosystem blossomed.
However, VW platforms sold during those periods are all lemons. After sales services were horrible.
Arteon is a nice car definitely, but I'll wait for another year to see real life owners running in with real world problems.
Hey, with 250k, I'll go for a volvo s60 T8!
You mentioned lemons. I do hear from many ppl they're okay with their VWs but mostly 2016 and after that. Also we've heard of many bad stories. Well just a small suspicion, did VW deliberately sell lemons??? Because cars with some issues can be acceptable but if many things give way how can it be acceptable??? Plus when go for repair and replacement, if problem solved fine good but if keep repeating like no tommorow susah juga. Worse is if after sales is bad, die laa. I know VW M'sia now is unlike before but I still hear reliability and after sales service issues. If anyone more qualified can comment on it, that would be fine. Frankly VW cars hard to complain, they're simply fantastic in almost everything. But I dunno why suddenly the thought of reliability, QC and after sales issues will pop in ppl's mind.
Probably those owners made lemonade out of lemons.. 🤣
I smell a little bit bias hahah but this arteon really deserves all the praises 💯
yep
Hahaha, that's just how impressive this Arteon is!
i dont give a shit what ppl think if i like ill buy it
Yoh should explain more on the resale value and maintenance cost.
If compare between entry level 3-series and C class to Arteon, it'd be the Arteon without question. However, if it's a full spec C class, I'd take the full spec C class instead 😁👍
very good choice one I know does three cars are very different
I might as well, though that's RM50k more 😂
what do you mean by full spec c class? full spec c200 or full spec c300?
@@aircommandslipperz c300
@@WapCar Forgot to mention if I have the budget 😂
Good review Adrian
Around the last bit. When Adrian claimed VW as a premium brand. VW isn't a premium brand. The term volkswagen equates to people's car. Just becuz u pay premium price it doesn't mean its a premium car. Its just a good looking car with good performance. Good review in general but u disagree with the last point about VW as a premium brand
Not sure if you watched the whole video. I said "Premium brand matters a Mercedes or BMW" and in the conclusion I explicitly said the VW logo is the problem stopping people from putting their money down for this Arteon
This Artron looks good infront. But I prefer redesign of rear looks to make it look more impressive & politely fierce look.
I will pick Arteon top model even if I have enough money to buy top model c class. The exterior of Arteon is simply WoooW.
Spec wise, the Arteon is bang on value for money. I'll choose it any day considering how mildly spec-ed the C200 and 320i is. But VW's aftersales is nothing short of horrid!
Same feeling as well...is more of the after sales I am worried compare to social status for a brand
VW used to have more than 10 dealers/workshops in Klang Valley.
Take a look into VW website today, it has gone down to 6 only in Klang Valley. Lots of them have closed down over the years like Wearnes, Wing Hin, TTDI etc.
Once u feel the dsg and handling, it’s always in your head
love ur hair adrian
nice to meet u Adrian
Most Audi and VW uses plastic water pump that will crack and short lived that need costly replacement.
Arteon can come with nice design plus unpredictable tedious problems.
Either you buy with the unpredictable problems in mind or stay away completely .
Agree with you on the stupid material choice. Plastic is not logic for a component exposed to If within 5y warranty, can claim FOC. Can request or demand SC to change to metal impeller waterpump thermostat housing.
U mentioned in the video that the entry point for the premium compact sedan from Mercedes is the c200? I believe that is not true as the entry point for Mercedes premium sedan is the A200 sedan which is priced around rm230,000
Should said better than your Ativa though.
Perodua fans come attack with different segments and pricing 😂😂😂
Put aside, Arteon looks more busy, i will choose passat over this.
I don't buy into the badge snobbery argument, unfortunately. My success will not be measured by my key fob... "it matters to people" who are shallow. If you need a car to be rated as successful, as Adrian says, "it's sad". This car oozes style, with performance to boot. Now where is my Saga AE key fob.... :)
Eh your last point is so misleading. My brother earns RM30k a month and drives a persona
Wow that rear legroom, that’s almost 7 series (SWB) rivalling!
which of these 3 models have ADUI, Assist Driver Use Indicators? useful for Malaysians :)
I'll pick Arteon over the other two then have it parked next my Roc 😉😋
Roc?
@@gribbles1146 yes the t-roc
@@gribbles1146 my Scirocco 😊
can't wait 7-8 years later we could actually buy this for 50% of it's value hahaha
Haha why wait so long. I think in 4-5 years, it will lose half the value
Bro..maintenance ok ke?roughly berapa utk minor and major?
Everything perfect except fuel consumption. 8.9L/100km is insanely high. If it's a Beemer or Merc with same power output I would expect it. However, VW on the other hand, makes extraordinary fuel efficient powerful cars. Hahaha. I expected it to be better than BMW, 8L/100km. Waiting for WapCar comprehensive fuel consumption test for Arteon.
yes it is that engine with thirsty and lots of fuel use but ok
@@aimanfitri0iv Anyway it may not be that bad considering this is more of an outdated engine. This EA888 Gen 3 engine has been used for a decade if I'm not mistaken from Golf GTI MK6 I suppose and followed by pre Facelift Passat. This engine tune used by Arteon is 2017. So it may be acceptable to some. Dammit next year US market will be getting another update of Arteon with a new engine. Most probably EA888 Gen 4. 300hp & 400Nm of torque. Almost sports car performance. Obviously fuel efficiency would be better. Hope that Msian market gets the same engine next year or 2023 would do. That would be great.
@@aimanfitri0iv VW rocked with DSG innovation but looks like they've stopped. 7 speed is too old, time for 9 speed at least. Would further enhance pickup, acceleration, extra ratios for highway cruising and better fuel consumption in highway
@@aimanfitri0iv The later update of the model should retain the same suspension setting as this facelift but I think the powertrain and gearbox combo need to be sporty and really fun unlike the comfort oriented nature. Having more torque and max torque should actually cover from much lower revs. 1.6k RPM is still too high. Between 1 & 1.6k, it's empty. Would be great if the max torque kicks in from 1.2k RPM with the same broad rev range.
@@royalprince5878 the engine was using 13-year
How abt the safety features? Blind spot monitor, LKSA, AEB etc etc? Got ah?
Arteon R Line makes me feel so young...like a teenagers
How with the material and build quality ? Becos i hve watch mat watson ( carwow ) review and i found that their Arteon is not same as we got here . Like their Arteon is a 320hp and some other things i fogot . And another thing that Mat find out is they re using cheap material eventho it looks premium . Idk our version if it different or just same with the UK version.
That might be the Arteon R. Msian version is the tamer R Line
Adrian on Arteon 😉
Now I got it why WapCar wasn't able to hit 5.6s for 0-100. And throttle response and power delivery seem to be not quite dramatic or rapid. Another is the fuel consumption which is on the higher side. Because this car is only 1-2 month old and has only run 900 over km. Break-in period for VW is 1 500 km. Definitely mentioned in the manual. Usually during break-in, throttle response, brakes and fuel efficiency will not be at peak level. So I won't take the ratings outcome seriously. I think WapCar shall do a full rating next year. For other cars like Accord, Passat, pre FL Arteon, WapCar did the rating and review after quite sometime when the test cars have already achieved break-in period. My initial suspicion was the power delivery. No doubt this Arteon supposed to be smooth but I expect more pull and fun. It's okay hope to see a full review later on. Frankly I'm really surprised at the acceleration behaviour and fuel consumption. See later. I hope I'm right. It's my own experience with my car. When new, it was disappointingly sluggish and drank a lot of fuel. But once I went for 1k service and layer on slowly acceleration and fuel efficiency improved. Haha this particular Arteon unit is still virgin. I also read WapCar own article on break-in. It's pretty interesting. www.wapcar.my/news/running-in-your-new-car-still-relevant-2679
Great conclusion but a dizzying camera focus at the end 😵💫
Boss
Please review persona 2022 premium
N test drive also
definitely a head turner
Arteon R Line!
But Arteon is a D segment car, not the same as the 3er and C class. Price wise of course in the same league
yes it is same size as an a5 sportback
3 series and c class are d segments also.
@@aimanfitri0iv nope, Arteon is longer and wheelbase is longer too
The almost non existence of ADAS on this car is totally unacceptable. No AEB/FCW? Are u kidding VW MY for a quarter million car?
the reason for that because it's not tested for local roads for the adas because needs test for local roads to ordered that working for that one
@@aimanfitri0iv thanks Aiman. But if Merc, Lexus & BMW on do it in time locally, why VW takes such a long time? U turn? V turn or W turn? Haha..even Proton X50 can do it better yo
@@CP-qz2nb the reason it took long because they need to do official approval
Idk why am I watching this, I can’t even afford an Axia🤣
Hang in there & keep hustling mate! Let the Arteon be your positive reinforcement to get its replacement model not too far in the future.
Wouldn't it be better buy Accord highest spec or Camry TRD?
i like this more than the c200 and 3201. 😝
So carlist copied this guy?
It is the same class with 5 series, E class, A4, of course better than 320i and c200.
It's a good & comfortable car,but service & spare parts expensive than Mercedes Benz,because I'm still driving my Volkswagen Passat B7 year of 2015.😜
Hi Adrian, would you buy this over the Passat?
both very different car because it's similar share platform but if you want practical go with the passat but if you want a sporty look go with the arteon
Yes I would in a heartbeat
Do the door panels rattle like crazy when you blast the music? My Passat B8 does that and it's terrible.
Oh gosh. I didn't expect this from B8. Build quality supposed to be higher than the Jap rivals. Well, I'm not really surprised because they use lots of plastic interior especially hard plastic. Or maybe your door panels, the pins weren't installed properly, poor workmanship at factory.
Malaysians drive cars to impress others, that's why you see people driving a bigger SUV car, premium brand just to impress. If they want a practical car with RV, they would choose a Toyota instead. VW is in a very vague proposition so we hardly see any of it on the road.
What is the blue colour code??
Wanna change my car to this colour.. 😁
LDP Sunway towards Kelana Jaya 😉
What is the resale value in Malaysia?
Does have remote engine start?
I could use some sun roof perhaps in the 3series~ 🤔
9:30 starts blurry and clear repeatedly, i thought my eyes sick hahaha. Btw Arteon is pretty dope though!
How about spares for the car
Its a very nice car indeed BUT the problem with the car is VW. I had such an awful experience with the service centres that I swore NEVER to ever buy another VW. I had the 2011 VW Passat CC. Drives like a dream but problems like nightmares. Bought at RM250K. Sold 7 years on the dot at RM47,300. In that 7 years, changed batteries 5 times (twice under warranty - 2nd one by threatening them), car got towed 4 times, changed window lifters twice, replaced oil sump on 2nd service (after threatening them again, claimed under warranty), motherboard changed under warranty, reverse camera malfunctioned from day one till I sold it. Seriously, the car drives like a dream on a good day. I am tempted to give the Arteon R go BUT.....I think I'll pass. Yes, it was Wearnes VW. You guessed it.
one thing... where is the sunroof >,
Too many tacky chrome horizontal lines in the front ffs
Can you please review a Mustang plssss.....
I myself earn RM15k as specialist and I only drive a myvi
Among those vw bmw & merc which one have low maintenance?
BMW cheapest. 5y free service. Followed by VW 3y free service. Merc free service not standard depends on offer
I came here to read about dsg gearbox problem
Dude. What can i say. Rambut macam kena panjang. Better suit your face shape
i choose bmw 330i
but no AEB but good review!
Any adaptive cruise control?
unfortunately this car doesn't have adas because it's not setup for local road yet
To me, that's just a silly PR reply from VW Malaysia. What's there to setup? At its asking price, for me, adaptive cruise control and AEB are compulsory. I'll pass :)
@@yaolungkhong the reason for that because it's not set up for local roads and is not approval yet
Nope, no AEB either, only blind spot
camera blur blur la wei..