I got another big lot of bad drives, will any of them work?!

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  • Here’s more bad drives. This lot of 13 drives was 4€ + 22€ for shipping from Italy, making it 2€ per drive.
    After I bought this I said it wouldn’t matter if they were all dead as at least we could check how they look on the inside, though I hoped that some would work but just be considered bad due to bad sectors.
    I also included two bonus drives, the only two that weren’t said to be bad that I bought this month. (The two bonus drives were 20€ so 10€ a piece)
    When testing time happened, it turns out most of them were truly bad. 3 dead PCBs and many clicks and clunks latter, only 2 out of the lot of 13 even had a chance to work (The Maxtor 7040F1 might as well but I will never have a way to test it due to its proprietary interface). And from the bonus drives which I assumed would be working, one of them was dead too!
    Out of the two working drives, the Seagate ST3391A worked and surprisingly had no bad sectors. I already have 2 of this model, so make it 3 now. Of course of all the drives in that box it had to be the one I already have multiple of that worked x)
    The Western Digital 34300 does work but with major issues, the start of the drive is really messed up with many bad sectors, and most of the drive is also covered in slow sectors too. I made a partition that starts after the really bad area and it does boot just fine despite the slow sectors and sounds great. Even in such a bad shape I’m glad I got it as it’s the only 3 platter caviar of this style I have as well as my only "LB" one. (What I mean by that is the model number ends in LB, which seems to indicate the series of the drives. The next series, LC got a different seektest)
    The "bonus" ST51080A is a really cool drive. It’s thinner than a regular drive (about the same thickness as drives like the Maxtor DiamondMax plus 8/Fireball 3) but also a little bit shorter too. It has bad sectors right at the very end of the drive, probably due to poor shipping… That alongside the ST33223A that didn’t work was very disappointing… I knew the drives from the big lot might all be dead and expected that they probably wouldn’t work, but the other two I thought they were working drives… now I don’t know if the ST33223A was already dead before they shipped it or not but yeah…
    Anyways, I’ll make full videos of that Caviar 34300 and Seagate ST51080A for you to enjoy. I won’t do for the ST3391A as I have already made a video of that model.
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  • @OtherWorldExplorers
    @OtherWorldExplorers 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I saw the thumbnail and thought for sure that this was some kind of rack of tank rounds.

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'll be honnest I have no idea how that would look like. But nope it's just dead hard drives x')

  • @NSHG
    @NSHG 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Deltarune OST on HDD heads is something I wasn't expecting on seeing lol.
    Now I know what to do with a few of my dead drives (I have 2 towers of drives I need to retest lol)

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wasn’t sure on what to use, but deltarune music is great, it is recognizable even if the quality isn’t good, and it can be used without getting copyright claims.
      If you have a pile of dead drives, you can give this a try, but don’t expect it to sound any good :)

  • @Franscobec
    @Franscobec 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Next time you should rick roll us with those speaker drives lmao

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ahah I didn't even think of that, could've been funny. I don't know if rickroll can cause issues with copyright claims or not though.

    • @Franscobec
      @Franscobec 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@arnlol I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure Rick is pretty chill about copyright for Never Gonna Give You Up on youtube

  • @JankPods0201
    @JankPods0201 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    At 10:44 It just sounds hilarious! I also like the choice of music, Which just makes it funnier!

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Isn't Deltarune music great? It's also easily recognizable even if the playback quality isn't good, and as far as I know it can be used in videos without getting copyright claims as well.

    • @windisk1112
      @windisk1112 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As a fan of Undertale/Deltarune I recognized that right away : ) @@arnlol

    • @JankPods0201
      @JankPods0201 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ I never knew that track specifically was from Deltarune! I just don't keep up with the times. Also, Deltarune music is awesome, I gotta admit!

  • @kon578
    @kon578 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing. I'm getting addicted to your videos.

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Considering my scuffed no schedule random uploading when I feel like it, maybe getting addicted isn’t a good idea x) I’m glad you like them though

  • @timofej1344
    @timofej1344 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Try just cleaning the contacts on the IBM hard drive or changing their pressure. This may cause them to click, and yes video is great)

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have had drives in the past that acted strange due to PCB/HDA connection, so I always try that on drives that are bad and have pins pushing on the PCB. It made no difference here sadly.

    • @NelsonBigGunP200Fan
      @NelsonBigGunP200Fan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@arnlollooks like a set of bad heads for that deskstar right ? Too bad you don't have the same drive with a good set that you could swap over.

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NelsonBigGunP200Fan I'll be honnest I have no clue, but even if I did I'm pretty sure swapping things on these would be way less likely to actually work compared to MFM drives for exemple.

    • @NelsonBigGunP200Fan
      @NelsonBigGunP200Fan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@arnlol right. because the tolerances in these drives are so tight compared to older drives.

  • @Placeholder71
    @Placeholder71 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At 10:00 that's what I always imagined a failed hard drive to sound like with the repetitive clicking motion.

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well yeah they can do that, but the way drives sound just varies and sometimes drives die but don’t make any clicking as well, it just depends on what drive it is as well as why it died.

  • @douro20
    @douro20 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The blink codes on the Miniscribe 7040 will tell you what is wrong with it.

  • @Stay_alert
    @Stay_alert 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video!

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! Collecting hard drives sure is a niche hobby but I'm glad some people like the videos :)

    • @Stay_alert
      @Stay_alert 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I actually have a collection myself! I even have a hard drive I've been wanting to donate to you! It's untested, but I want to send you a thank you gift for making such amazing content us techies love! :)@@arnlol

  • @cdos9186
    @cdos9186 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow amazing job with the video! Not sure how you get them done so fast, I assume that takes a lot of time to record each drive and then test every one of them etc. I was surprised how many ended up dead, especially the IBM Deskstar since that one had a parking ramp and had a good chance of survival in my opinion. Was not expecting three drives with bad PCBs especially the Western Digital and the SP0411N, but the MPG shouldn't have been a surprise. Also on the MPG it does exactly what all of mine with bad main ICs do, the main controller chip shorted and I'm sure you can very faintly hear the two ticks which normally happen before the spindle starts, but nothing happens. Also wow that had to have taken a lot to kill that IBM H3171-A2, I have never seen one of those fail!

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well recording the first spinup doesn’t really take longer than just spinning the drives up which I do anyways. Yes testing the drives takes time though of course here only 3 worked so it didn’t take that long. Right now the hard drives is literally my life so yeah…
      The lot was sold as bad but I still was surprised as well, maybe because the previous bad lots went decently before, I expected more of the drives to work but just have bad sectors.
      I don’t know about that one ramp IBM, I think it’s a 60GXP so it should be reliable but yeah that one is dead.
      The MPG does make the ticking sounds from the motor, I think it might be audible on the video. The spindle motor chip gets super hot on the Samsung, but the WD's PCB stays completely cold.
      I really thought that H3171-A2 was the most likely drive to work, as early IBMs like this are supposedly really reliable, but this one didn’t make it.

    • @cdos9186
      @cdos9186 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@arnlol That is odd, did you notice any internal damage on the 60GXP at all? That is a lower end 20GB model, but it still surprised me it died. Those are supposed to be able to take up to 400Gs of shock before damage to the drive occurs, and IBM focused on shock protection very well with those. Those do still use glass platters but I couldn't tell if any of the heads on the actuator were bent or not, as if you recall my 20GB 75GXP one died from a head getting torn off due to horrendous handling and the drive actually died during the self-test which was incredibly sad if I didn't mention before.
      If I get enough bad Fujitsu MPGs, I will actually probably end up making a video on them. It won't be too interesting of course, but it will be good documentation, in my opinion. So look forward to that at a future date if you are interested at all.
      That Samsung probably had a bad power supply kill the PCB, as you have seen happen recently with that SATA Maxtor I talked about that the Molex to SATA adapter fried, same thing, but instead the main controller chip gets insanely hot too. I hope you can fix the drives with bad PCBs one day, it would be awesome to have them do anything at all and I wonder if you anticipate testing them later! Super happy you picked up this lot once again, you are saving drives, documenting them, and making interesting content : ))

  • @Pizzalaser
    @Pizzalaser 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome! 😆

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!

  • @shardnugget
    @shardnugget 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    interesting content, i like it

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! If you like the sounds of old hard drives there’s a few other collectors that do the same thing, it’s a niche thing but if you like it you could check them out too.

  • @SappinSentry
    @SappinSentry 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've always wondered and you seem like a great person to ask, but what causes click of death? The platters look undamaged at a glance, do the read/write heads just go bad and have issues picking up the data?
    It feels strange knowing I've replaced many drives like this and done other wack stuff in my tenure in consumer PC repair but I never found this one out....

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Honnestly I don't know, I think it can be from a lot of different issues, like damaged platters, damaged heads, dead head amplifier, issues on the PCB, and probably more. I like to mess with old drives for fun but I don't really know why a dead drive has failed unless there's something obvious like a ripped off head or very damaged platters.

  • @Kali_Krause
    @Kali_Krause 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm surprised that Westren Digital drive can still load Windows 98 with all that damage!

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have drives even worse than this that I got to boot Windows though it took a lot of time to get the sectors marked as bad. The WD here has a lot of bads at the start of the drive, so I left 480MB of unused space at the start and created the partition after that. The rest of the drive has a lot of slow sectors but the bads don't get past about 10% for now.

  • @darkdein1234
    @darkdein1234 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey, Arnold! I don't know, do you remember me, but any chances APedobear might comeback? I know you don't get any money for it, yet pay for the server, but would really appreciate man if you could handle it at least for a month and maybe discord server back? Really miss the server and community of it (I'm overlords tho)

  • @taerxeu
    @taerxeu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bring back Apedobear server, I'm begging 😭

  • @ducksonplays4190
    @ducksonplays4190 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My WD400BB from 2000-2001 also died from a bad PCB, these ones seem prone to overheating

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What's strange is nothing looks blown on that PCB, and nothing appears to get hot either. It just does nothing.

  • @EastAngliaUK
    @EastAngliaUK 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    interesting to see why they won't go.

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, I would have prefered if more of them did something, but seeing the inside of failed drives is still interesting.

  • @user-om5fz1ru2t
    @user-om5fz1ru2t 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

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  • @reyabesamis1965
    @reyabesamis1965 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    does all hard drive does not park if there is no power?

    • @JankPods0201
      @JankPods0201 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Some older drives like some MFM And early IDE Drives Cannot park themselves, They need a park command.

    • @reyabesamis1965
      @reyabesamis1965 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thankyou for the reply, but the new sata drives today does it park automatically?@@JankPods0201

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Every modern drive parks the heads on shut down, older drives like the ones in this video parked the heads in a dedicated area near the spindle where no data is stored, newer ones park the heads on a ramp outside the platters. The drives that do not auto park are most stepper based ST-412 (MFM/RLL) drives and some very early stepper based IDE/SCSI ones. As far as I know voice coil drives always had auto park.

    • @reyabesamis1965
      @reyabesamis1965 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you very much sir 😘@@arnlol

  • @engineer359
    @engineer359 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    finally a new video!

    • @arnlol
      @arnlol  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Was it really this long since the last one?

    • @engineer359
      @engineer359 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@arnlol pretty long ago