The interviewer's analysis was spot on. *Not having a portfolio is a major bummer. Comes off as lazy. As an interviewer the first thing you wanna do before/after is check out the candidate's work *There's nothing wrong with "straying from the subject", you appreciate when a candidate opens up and a story or talks passionately about something, instead of just thinking "what should I say to get me hired".
Most interviewers spend time asking candidate's about their agile experience. I think it's mostly a waste of time. Sure it's nice to get someone who knows exactly what to do on the morning scrum and the sprint planning. But if they don't have those skills it's not like it takes any serious time to learn. Most people will get the concept right away just after a few minutes of observing the other team members. I don't think agile xp should be a deciding factor when picking new team members unless they are team leads. The major challenges with agile is how the higher ups use it, getting stakeholders and PM:s to communicate, and making the entire organization get it. But it's usually not anything difficult for members of the dev team to pick up.
Really excellent video all around - thx! I had the exact same reactions as the interviewer - Tyler did well, but missed the point when asked "who did you work with" (as an interviewer I usually clarify my question and give them one more chance when this happens), and for sure if you're an artist of any sort, you should always be thinking about leading with your portfolio.
If you are new to game development and have no experience then these tips are for you. There is no internship for game development but I can give you one million dollar advice for free. 1)First, learn the clean coding and OOP concept (TH-cam have all the information and knowledge you need ). 2)Second, participate in Game Jams if you have a 6-7 working project you are an experienced person. (itch io and there are much other game Jam website in which you can participate it have weekly, monthly projects ). 3)Try documenting your game and post it on Linkedin. 4)Finally, make a badass portfolio (in easy words you have to sell yourself ). 5)Don't apply directly at the big company try your local game development software house take at least 1 year of experience. I hope this will help new developers.
Probaply because your Portfolio speaks for itsself and in his case he should have Showreel kinda Soundcloud sometimes the Wohle Team will Review your work :x so everyone in the room Looks on your art and thats a Bad Feeling haha
Well I went to E3 in 2013 and if I knew this I would've tried to get one? Do you know how to score an interview there? I have passes for this year too.
ThkUJesus According to a friend of mine, There are usally career booths there and you just simply arrange one, You do the mock interview and get feedback.
I noticed when his roles in sound design, music, ADR, and foley were brought up the interviewer was a little put off by him being "A jack of all trades." I understand it's good to have a specialization but unless you're working for a big company, where multiple engineers play one role, isn't it normal to work in all roles? Or are Indie companies also hiring audio engineers for specific departments like voice over/adr, foley, & sound design / implementation? Just curious how the game audio industry works.
in smaller studios it helps to have multiple skills as they have to pay one person to do jobs of multiple people even with a bonus. This is not set in stone though and it depends on the project needs or studio approach. Plus it does help to have some knowledge in other fields to communicate with the other departments properly. Like being in the design team and communicating with the technical team for example.
Im currently applying for a job as a dialogue recordist and dialogue designer at a local games company. Coming from a film background and not knowing much about the games industry I probably dont stand a chance.
@@goncalocardoso8050 Ha, I didn't get the job. I didn't go into games. Too much to learn. I'm now a freelancer for independent film and video,, I've a few clients. I've got contacts in London and Europe, I've been asked if I'm interested in work on a German TV show, so I've got that potentially lined up, a current feature film and lots and lots of short films of which one was an Oscar Qualifier and too BAFTA and BIFA Qualifiers. Haven't cracked America yet.
This is great - but how do you get the very first job? If you've got a full resume of game dev experience the interview is just networking (as seen here). But you can't even get the interview if you haven't shipped x amount of games.
+gogreyhound Agree with Foxar. Try and hook up with other independent developers and get some exp under your belt. Got to start small before you can get into the big leagues.
Hobby projects. Build a portfolio of small games. The most important part is being able to show that you can actually ship finished games. You can also contribute to large github projects to show that you're passionate, can collaborate and that you've been involved in larger projects where people have had to approve your work.
Hi, here at turbine we maintain Everquest clones full-time, so can you give me an example of a time you've plagiarized a game concept and applied it to someone else's intellectual property?
If your in the industry, you know how what he said applies to design in general. If his crap is god enough to be used elsewhere he's not a bad sound designer
+TheEgao They are mainly looking at relevant experience, knowledge of common software and development practices, and examples of the applicant's work (as referenced in a portfolio). Another factor is fitting in with the studio culture (some studios are more interested in this than others). At the end of the day, studios are usually looking for a very specifically shaped piece to fit into their jigsaw puzzle.
Body language wasn't great, not bad but he was a bit figety (not including adjusting mic), hands over mouth, slouched, eyes wandering (looking for answers on ceiling or walls). Gave a stock question "how important is sound design". Could of come up with a more interesting question or questions despite stating the obvious and obviously wanting the job. The guy is clearly talented, he could of been more confident as if he was the one interviewing the interviewer. Take charge and don't be afraid of what you have and don't have. Believe in yourself. Be confident and if not, be brave.
+Aaron Ramirez When asked what type of Sound Design he specialized in, he said Sound Design. I'm not too experienced in that area, but it seems a bit too general of an answer for what was being asked.
SOund design is fairly sepcific, Its like sound effects and its as general as its sounds. bascailly he's not a composer which makes the MUSIC of the game, which owuld have been the other anwser the interviewer would have looked for.
+orange18 One major reason why he didn't get the position was because he didn't have an online portfolio ready to show. In the Games Industry, interviewers are a lot more impressed by the projects you have worked on and less about what school you have gone to. That being said, a college degree doesn't hurt either.
The saddest part is, Tyler - being young and strong, in brain and body - is probably more qualified to be on the opposite side of the desk. Old and stodgy doesn't win the modern world, vibrant and nimble does.
***** Shit, I'm already long enough in the tooth - and thus wise enough to swallow my pride and admit the truth. Young minds, at the prime of health are what produce most innovation - despite the roadblocks pur in place by 'elder minds'. When did Einstein do all his great work? In his 20's - those pics of the wild haired elderly gent, were taken long after his genius arced.
No, you should dress to fit in with a dev team. Show up over dressed and it might look like you're out of touch with the real development world, or that you're not comfortable with your skills and try to over dress to compensate for it.
totally depends. If not suits at least wear a collar t shirt and trousers just to be safe. Not too fancy but not too cadual either. You dont know what kind of judgement you might get.
This is a mock interview so not really representative. You shouldn't show up in shorts and a tee shirt, but you're likely overdoing it in a suit. A collared shirt and slacks is a healthy middle ground
He said it was 10% for two different things, he meant 10% for each. So, it was really 60 + 20 + 10 + 10. He just didn't say the words "ten percent" twice.
That's not true at all. It's about reaching the production quality bar of industry at the given time one applies. There's a ton of artists without formal education that are in the industry.
Wow im nervous just by watching this
I am here before interview with a HR for game dev position. Wish me luck lads.
what did happend?
@@kevinmartinez8267 they didnt even return after interview :D
@@SirUGG dammit
The interviewer's analysis was spot on.
*Not having a portfolio is a major bummer. Comes off as lazy. As an interviewer the first thing you wanna do before/after is check out the candidate's work
*There's nothing wrong with "straying from the subject", you appreciate when a candidate opens up and a story or talks passionately about something, instead of just thinking "what should I say to get me hired".
Do you have a college degree?
*My parents bought me an iMac*
Why didn't the editor of this footage use an EQ at 11000 KHz? That sound is piercing!
Most interviewers spend time asking candidate's about their agile experience. I think it's mostly a waste of time. Sure it's nice to get someone who knows exactly what to do on the morning scrum and the sprint planning. But if they don't have those skills it's not like it takes any serious time to learn. Most people will get the concept right away just after a few minutes of observing the other team members.
I don't think agile xp should be a deciding factor when picking new team members unless they are team leads.
The major challenges with agile is how the higher ups use it, getting stakeholders and PM:s to communicate, and making the entire organization get it.
But it's usually not anything difficult for members of the dev team to pick up.
Wow so much pressure.
Really excellent video all around - thx! I had the exact same reactions as the interviewer - Tyler did well, but missed the point when asked "who did you work with" (as an interviewer I usually clarify my question and give them one more chance when this happens), and for sure if you're an artist of any sort, you should always be thinking about leading with your portfolio.
If you are new to game development and have no experience then these tips are for you.
There is no internship for game development but I can give you one million dollar advice for free.
1)First, learn the clean coding and OOP concept (TH-cam have all the information and knowledge you need ).
2)Second, participate in Game Jams if you have a 6-7 working project you are an experienced person. (itch io and there are much other game Jam website in which you can participate it have weekly, monthly projects ).
3)Try documenting your game and post it on Linkedin.
4)Finally, make a badass portfolio (in easy words you have to sell yourself ).
5)Don't apply directly at the big company try your local game development software house take at least 1 year of experience.
I hope this will help new developers.
Wait! How do you apply for a job like this, without a portfolio. How do you even make it to the interview? Is that possible?
Probaply because your Portfolio speaks for itsself and in his case he should have Showreel kinda Soundcloud sometimes the Wohle Team will Review your work :x so everyone in the room Looks on your art and thats a Bad Feeling haha
It's a mock interview, you'd be ignored or denied at every art or design related gig if you didn't apply with a portfolio
Correction in title is required. He is not Game Developer. He is sound designer or Sound Engineer.
You missread the title... He is, indeed, a sound engineer, but is interviewed BY a game developer.
Sound Designers ARE Game Developers. Developer is a broad term for all disciplines in the industry, not just programmers.
Interview was good but I like most of the questions but still was good enough
They do job interviews at E3?
Well I went to E3 in 2013 and if I knew this I would've tried to get one? Do you know how to score an interview there? I have passes for this year too.
ThkUJesus According to a friend of mine, There are usally career booths there and you just simply arrange one, You do the mock interview and get feedback.
This is according to the description a mock interview
@@Beerlover2007 you do get jobs there yoo from ehat I heard
How does someone apply for an internship, looking for experience?
you need 5 years experience for a position to get experience for a intern position. lol
Every job requires X experience. Internship requires X experience; how does one get experience?!
Getting lucky
@@echosquest how would you feed urself then
No one with experience is stupid enough to apply for an intern position everyone who has experience will go for a senior position
I noticed when his roles in sound design, music, ADR, and foley were brought up the interviewer was a little put off by him being "A jack of all trades." I understand it's good to have a specialization but unless you're working for a big company, where multiple engineers play one role, isn't it normal to work in all roles? Or are Indie companies also hiring audio engineers for specific departments like voice over/adr, foley, & sound design / implementation? Just curious how the game audio industry works.
in smaller studios it helps to have multiple skills as they have to pay one person to do jobs of multiple people even with a bonus. This is not set in stone though and it depends on the project needs or studio approach.
Plus it does help to have some knowledge in other fields to communicate with the other departments properly. Like being in the design team and communicating with the technical team for example.
Im currently applying for a job as a dialogue recordist and dialogue designer at a local games company. Coming from a film background and not knowing much about the games industry I probably dont stand a chance.
how did it go for you after 5 years? Super curious now!
@@goncalocardoso8050 Ha, I didn't get the job. I didn't go into games. Too much to learn. I'm now a freelancer for independent film and video,, I've a few clients. I've got contacts in London and Europe, I've been asked if I'm interested in work on a German TV show, so I've got that potentially lined up, a current feature film and lots and lots of short films of which one was an Oscar Qualifier and too BAFTA and BIFA Qualifiers. Haven't cracked America yet.
i feel nervous by just seeing it , and definitely will stammer if would be there
This is great - but how do you get the very first job?
If you've got a full resume of game dev experience the interview is just networking (as seen here). But you can't even get the interview if you haven't shipped x amount of games.
Yep. Need experience for the job but need a job to get the experience.
+ScopedKilz Go indie, make stuff and ship it yourself. At least that's what im trying. Takes alot of self-discipline but might work, right ?
+gogreyhound Agree with Foxar. Try and hook up with other independent developers and get some exp under your belt. Got to start small before you can get into the big leagues.
Hobby projects. Build a portfolio of small games. The most important part is being able to show that you can actually ship finished games.
You can also contribute to large github projects to show that you're passionate, can collaborate and that you've been involved in larger projects where people have had to approve your work.
Great. That being said does anyone here wanna hire me ? xD
Guys it's says MOCK Interview
Astro the Owl *it
so helpfull and i want more videos like this
of course he's leaving the vita version
That high frequency pitch during the feedback ta the end hurts my ears.
So i have a interview with a game company tomorrow, let's see if this will help
how was it?
Hi, here at turbine we maintain Everquest clones full-time, so can you give me an example of a time you've plagiarized a game concept and applied it to someone else's intellectual property?
Asheron's Call released the same time as Everquest and the two games couldn't be any more different
neat guy, what can i say
Experience is key
Suites in casual dress..
Yikes. That’s one crappy and scary interviewer. I hope not to interview with that type of guy.
beggars cant be choosers. You would get all kinds of people and mostly have to deal with it. Not the usual scenario tho.
Why would you tell a potential employer that the first half of your workday is garbage?
Luiz Vaz I'm not arguing the validity of the statement, just that he could have said it in a way that didn't make him look like a worthless douche.
He said the sounds he was producing for the first half of the day sounded like garbage, not working there was garbage.
If your in the industry, you know how what he said applies to design in general. If his crap is god enough to be used elsewhere he's not a bad sound designer
Q&A
8:35
How do they approach the audio in your games?
Wow he killed
That plaid shirt. I wouldn't go with that choice.
i really don't get it, by what criteria they're passing the applicants...?
+TheEgao They are mainly looking at relevant experience, knowledge of common software and development practices, and examples of the applicant's work (as referenced in a portfolio). Another factor is fitting in with the studio culture (some studios are more interested in this than others). At the end of the day, studios are usually looking for a very specifically shaped piece to fit into their jigsaw puzzle.
"Our games are services." Nope. Not taking that job.
did u end up getting the job
There should be a setup software which includes all scripting codes and user can just have to drag drop
Body language wasn't great, not bad but he was a bit figety (not including adjusting mic), hands over mouth, slouched, eyes wandering (looking for answers on ceiling or walls). Gave a stock question "how important is sound design". Could of come up with a more interesting question or questions despite stating the obvious and obviously wanting the job. The guy is clearly talented, he could of been more confident as if he was the one interviewing the interviewer. Take charge and don't be afraid of what you have and don't have. Believe in yourself. Be confident and if not, be brave.
he said 60%, 20% and 10%, can someone explain that to me pls?
the 10% was meant to be said as 10% and 10% because he was talking about 2 different things but put them together as 1 which caused confusion
That's one and scary hop not and interview that me all tapy of awesome guy
nice
/Roll d20
I swear binding of Isaac refrence
He never smiled is this a problem
+Chris Ii both did
He said 60% Sound Design 20% Music, 10% ADR which equals 90% LOL
The other 10% is for beating his meat........you have to make time for that.
+Aaron Ramirez When asked what type of Sound Design he specialized in, he said Sound Design. I'm not too experienced in that area, but it seems a bit too general of an answer for what was being asked.
SOund design is fairly sepcific, Its like sound effects and its as general as its sounds. bascailly he's not a composer which makes the MUSIC of the game, which owuld have been the other anwser the interviewer would have looked for.
no college degree. OPEN YOUR MIND (in bruce lee voice)
Interviewer sucks, too much grilling and asking questions that don't matter
he didnt pass because he doesnt have college degree so sad all of us need one too :(
orange18 Computer Sci definitely helps but I don't think that is true in all cases, where everyone must have a degree.
Yea I don't think it mattered also because he has worked with big name companies before.
+orange18 It's a mock interview
Norie92 u mean joke interview?
+orange18 One major reason why he didn't get the position was because he didn't have an online portfolio ready to show. In the Games Industry, interviewers are a lot more impressed by the projects you have worked on and less about what school you have gone to. That being said, a college degree doesn't hurt either.
Yeet!!!!!!
Arkham Origins? Sorry you just lost out the job to the developer of Custer's Revenge
Release Star Wars 1313!!!
The saddest part is, Tyler - being young and strong, in brain and body - is probably more qualified to be on the opposite side of the desk.
Old and stodgy doesn't win the modern world, vibrant and nimble does.
***** Shit, I'm already long enough in the tooth - and thus wise enough to swallow my pride and admit the truth.
Young minds, at the prime of health are what produce most innovation - despite the roadblocks pur in place by 'elder minds'.
When did Einstein do all his great work? In his 20's - those pics of the wild haired elderly gent, were taken long after his genius arced.
Old have experience tho which cannot be replaced
Kind of, kind of like, sort of kind of like.........
so it seems you don't have to dress to formally to game dev interviews? i hate dressing formally
+Kevin L Game Dev interviews are usually casual because that is how they generally come to work as well.
No, you should dress to fit in with a dev team. Show up over dressed and it might look like you're out of touch with the real development world, or that you're not comfortable with your skills and try to over dress to compensate for it.
totally depends. If not suits at least wear a collar t shirt and trousers just to be safe. Not too fancy but not too cadual either. You dont know what kind of judgement you might get.
This is a mock interview so not really representative. You shouldn't show up in shorts and a tee shirt, but you're likely overdoing it in a suit. A collared shirt and slacks is a healthy middle ground
Can you collect me one game job
FIRED. 😂.......😠 Talks to much at the end.
0% math skills
60% + 20% + 10% = 90 % like what...
He said it was 10% for two different things, he meant 10% for each. So, it was really 60 + 20 + 10 + 10. He just didn't say the words "ten percent" twice.
if you want to get in the game industry you have to go to college in get a degree.
***** yes definitely that's what there looking for I want to be a producer.
I want to be the one who come up with the ideas that do the planning how the story goes in make sure everything moving nice and smooth.
thanks but what about the producer.
how about be unique and become an indie game developer and get a 25% to become successful (worth it though XD)
That's not true at all. It's about reaching the production quality bar of industry at the given time one applies. There's a ton of artists without formal education that are in the industry.