The Mercedes-Benz W140 S-Class Diesel Was Over-Sized, Over-Engineered, Over-Budget, and Awesome
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- SOLD The W140 was a transition car for Mercedes-Benz - from the old nuts and bolts, wood and leather, old world craftsmanship to the quest for the highest tech, build quality, and equipment content ever put on a car. The Lexus LS was a new threat from Japan, and BMW was closing in from the side with a very popular 7-Series. Mercedes-Benz wanted to answer them by creating the best car in the world - enter the W140.
Inside was the old and familiar Mercedes-Benz nuts-and-bolts engineering - rich leathers, glossy wood, expensive soft materials, and controls and layouts that would be familiar to any loyal Benz owner - but this belied an incredible array of cutting edge technology and luxury items unseen in any prior car. Soft close doors, power center-view mirror, electronically retractable rear fender markers, electronic dual side climate control, ASR, the first CAN BUS system, double-pane windows, and much more.
While all of this provided a level of luxury and sophistication not seen before, it also provided complication and high repair costs - a mechanic friend of mine took to calling it "The Grand Mercedes," because everything one might have to do it would cost more than a thousand bucks.
To some, this car is a masterpiece - to others, an over-complicated nightmare. I've always been a fan of them, if only just because it's a car I grew up with, and admired long before I could afford one. When it was current, few cars had the kind of impact a big S-Class did when pulling up somewhere, so you at least got that for your money.
Full review and test drive by Bill. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
“Marco painted the car for a bag of coke and whiskey.” (Bill, 2020) Classic 😂😂😂😂
Got a good laugh out of that one.
I love his sense of humor
That's my type of friend
He is SHADY to the bone! 🤣🤣🤣
I would still buy this year model Mercedes over the newer models.
I got a classic 95 Mercedes for sale 3500 OBO, it's clean gd condition
lele g still got it?
lele g still got it?
I would too.
Everyone: The sky is falling and the world is ending.
Bill: Good Morning!
Alfred Valrie i literally died and brought back to life from that comment. Bill is in heaven right now lol
Omar Avicenna 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
Life is a journey..
From one great beverage to the last.. 🍺
If the World is ending this is the Diesel TANK that I wanna be in!!!
"Overengineered because the engineers were running the company but it drove the accountants batshit crazy finally they mounted a coup and took over the company" LOL
Correct.
The W140's R&D budget was $1 BILLION.
The budget for the W220 was half that. That's why the W220, W221 had/have so many issues.
I had a:
2005 S-430 AMG, repeated issues with ABC suspension systems, dash went out, keyless go buttons fell off, a/c fan motor went out.
Then went to the 2008 S-550 4MATIC AMG. PANORAMIC sunroof issues, did not opt for the ABC suspension, brakes dics not big enough for such a heavy car.
Now I have a W222.
2015 S-63 AMG Sedan.
Love it, but 21.1gal fuel tank is TOO SMALL for such a large engine. I miss the 26.4gal from the W140.
Senior Benz designer Bruno Sacco was asked:
“Is there a model you designed that you're unhappy with?”
👉 Answer: “The W140 S-class from the early 1990s, because it is four inches too tall”
www.automobilemag.com/news/mercedes-benz-bruno-sacco/
Bill = Legend
What killed Princess Diana and two of her companions was foolishly not fastening their seat/shoulder belts. The sole survivor of Diana's accident was the man in the front passenger seat, who had buckled up. Her W140 Mercedes smashed head-on into a concrete abutment at high speed, obviously a devastating accident condition. That the man who buckled up survived at all (and fully recovered) is testimony to the amazing structural integrity of the W140. But in a high speed accident, the safest and best engineered car in the world cannot save people who don't bother to buckle up.
You were obviously traumatized as a child by Hitchcock’s “The Birds”.
Yes, it's not the first time the birds are mentioned in a video. :)
Werent we all?
I can relate to that too....hate the bastards.
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What is your problem with birds? Don't get it.
You should be worried if they were NOT there.
Europe is missing at least 40% of its birds due to man treating nature wrong.
Correction: the last Bruno Sacco’s s class design is the w220, not w140
yes you're right. Bruno Sacco's cars *-* i love them all xD
Maybe we're better off forgetting that.
Why are you not so active lately ? make more review, you are doing them like a proffesional, you talk all about the history the extras the other factors going into making the car or it's prons and cons, and every detail in general. I love it. Make more please. Don't stop
facts i love all the nitty gritty Details
“Featuring Mild Anger and a Bald Eagle Flyover” 😂😂
Gorgeous car. Wish I was in the market. German diesels are awesome!
There is no way that car put out 300+HP. The Gas V8 in an S500 was 315 MAYBE! haha
Perhaps some of the best "running commentary" I've ever heard. God I love this guy!
loughed my ass off. covid was tough though . . . nb. vienna
8:28
The W140 diesel puts out 150hp, im pretty sure. At least in Europe.
True and later diesel had 3L and 177hp.
315hp was the power of V8 gasoline engine in S500 W140.
That 350 number was probably the torque spec.
Stimpy&Ren Which year and engine would you recommend for the W140?
@@NorthernUtahDashcam 91 and 92 for power, 94-98 for less troubles
Professional pilot and professional drinker. Sounds like a bad combination!
No sounds like a great friend, good times and great vacations
Bill, it has only 150 hp and 229 ft. lb. of torque...
He miscontrued the specs with the S500
150hp
Yea.. I didn't think they made that much of a change in one year. I have the 1993,and had to open it up to get it to move
Bill, watching one of your videos for the first time and based on your humour, I subscribed instantly. Putting the phone on Airplane Mode would've stopped incoming phone calls, anyway, this video is terrific and man, did you have me howling with laughter as you're FUNNY! "Switchblades, coke, narcotics, handguns" 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Me, I'm afraid of the 140 as I wanted one either the 500 coupe or the gas 6 cylinder version sedan as I'm very apprehensive of the diesel and I LOVE diesels (I had an '85 300CD & '83 Audi 5000 turbodiesel), but this engine has been throwing rods since the 126 chassis 1987 350SDL (I believe that it's the same POS engine). Besides, a friend with Mercedes-Benz advised me to stay away from the 140 as they had problems with that chassis. I had a 1986 420SEL and that 126 chassis was probably the last great bank vault designed S-Class as every S-Class since the 126 has been questionable if not straight up junk. After 37 years of German cars, I'm done with them and ready for the reliable trouble-free (comparatively speaking) LEXUS. Good and funny review!
My rx350 vvti bolts backed out at 117k miles and even though it fit the reasoned for the recall, Lexus said my vin wasn’t on the bulletin. Goes to show, they are all pos.
@@bhigdaddymark did you read what I said? I had to put in another engine because the timing chain came off the guides due to the faulty oem vvti bolts . Never a toyota again.
@sebastian romero
Damn, my apologies Sebastian as apparently my level of comprehension momentarily failed, so I deleted my idiotic comment. As I did say, "Less to zero aggravation" as compared to the money pit crap from Germany currently. I've never owned a Porsche, but a buddy of mine did (a Cayenne) and it nearly bankrupted him so he got rid of it and bought a Nissan SUV and has had zero problems with it. It's the luck of the draw I guess. We MUST remember that everything man makes breaks requiring maintenance hence EVERY car manufacturer having a service department from Rolls-Royce down to VW including the make you replaced your Lexus (or Toyota if you're not in the USA market) with. I'm sorry that you experienced that, good luck to you.
“Weird, biodegradable engine harness” omg I thought I was gonna swallow my f/n tongue! 😂
the thing is, that is true, they made those from 1993
I think you got the spec sheet for another motor... The 603.971 in that car only kicks out 148 hp. Torue is 228 ft/lbs. The later multivalve 606 diesels make a lot more power.
The 603.97 never had a DPF / Trap Oxidizer. That was only on the 85-86 CARB spec cars, and 87 for all cars.
Nobody knows why the 603.97s bent rods. What we do know is the late engines have thicker, heavier rods, oil cooling channels in the pistons (like the 3.0L engines). It affected a lot of the cars... probably 50%! The motors that didn't have problems though ran for a lot of miles. The 603.970 in my car blew up around 120,000 miles.
Just curious: If you floor the go pedal, without pushing the kickdown switch, what RPM does it shift at?
If you want more info on this engine, look here: archive.org/details/9091MBTurboDiesels
OH BABY!!! I spotted those months ago when you showed us a sneak peek at upcoming cars. OH HOW I HAVE WAITED FOR THIS VIDEO!!!! I have two of these - cant wait to hear your take!
Alright. I like this guy!
Very interesting video as always. Nice to learn about the history of the old diesel engines. That painter did a hell of a job. Shines like a mirror !
Bill, love Your humor! Keep on the good work! May Your toilet paper never run out! ;-)
The REAL and the GREATES ERA of Mercedes Benz ended in 1999.....With the beautiful designs and engineering ...Nowdays THE Mercedes Benz looks like every damn car on the road...no whatsoever ORIGINAL DESING....( it's gone for more that 20 years).....No more STYLE.... no more prestige.....I think ( I might be wrong and if I am.. statistics will prove me right) Mercedes Benz is NO MORE FOR "elevated standard people"!.....ITS for every one....dumb and wise....smart and stupid....rich and poor...homeowners and homeless.....Mercedes Benz lost all the loyalty from its customers .....And its PRESTIGE in 21 CENTURY... These cars are NO MORE " THE BEST.....ITS nothing" like Honda Like Toyota.....Like EVERY OTHER CAR ON THE ROAD.......sad:( The TECHNOLOGY makes EVERYBODY EQUAL....And thas the saddest thing :(
Think you mixed the hp with the s500 v8..
The W220 was the last of Bruno Sacco's design.
I love Mercedes S-Class.
When we see your videos, we can pick up the popcorn, because it will be a delicious moment of fun:)))!
It’s a damn shame that Mercedes-Benz managed to fuck-up an in-line six-cylinder Diesel engine. That should be the easiest thing to get right.
I really appreciate the time and effort you put into your video reviews. The commentary keeps me on the lookout for more videos. Thank you.
120k miles, that's it. I'm at 300k w my w124 2.5 turbo. No issues.
Love the humor 😄😄
Had one 92 SD 300.Purchased at 170k and drove till 440k then accident took the car from insurance co and sold 1000CAD.
Solid car but ,mechanics make good money repairing It.
MB Service is super expensive and they show you NO MERCY.
Shocks and glow plug replacements,rear right window motor always problem.
German cars are for RICH and over engineered.
YOU WILL BE HAPPY WHEN YOU DRIVE it BUT UNHAPPY WHEN YOU TAKE IT TO THE MB SERVICE AND SEE THE REPAIR BILL.
I am now driving my Corolla and very happy.
Lol I love how he got off topic I'm pretty sure that's how everyone's feeling with all this BS flying around in the air
Until that BS gets you severely sick to the point of death.
This Covid-19 is not to be messed with. Is claiming lives faster than the flu.
Hilarious listening to the covid commentary 4 years later.
Man he's funny 😂lol
The bhp was around 175 bhp
@@curiouscars9282
Just chill bill.
Your content always makes me smile,the odd fact wrong is just another facet to your commentry.
If our paths ever cross (we live in the UK) there is a glass of your favourite single malt ,on me.
Stay safe and carry on the grumpy/ happy grind.
You make a lot of people happy and forget for a while the world we live in today.
Mercedes succedeed in making every new S-Class worse than the previous model.
What about Ozzy Osborne eating a bat 🦇? That never caused a worldwide outbreak!
Lol!
A pilot and drinker? Is his name Denzel?
the Thomas J 😂🤣
We always called this W140 "
Panzer “!! - It's really a tank😎
By the way, it was not the most beautiful one but one of best of all S'classes. Step right in, turn the key and it brings you to the end of the world. Absolutely a remarkable vehicle!!
Thanks for showing and Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹👍
Take care.
Well, that is one hell of a money-pit right there!
I have 1993 W140 !! Love it!!!👌👍😎
😂 love your show man!
Buy a Good HD Cam , put it on your Head !
Love Your reviews.
My friend had this Car in Gasoline also 350, had a Nakamichi build in it.
Nice Car , but very boring design.
I recently bought me a Daimler Super V8 00, so much more style compared to this , and a Ford build Supercharged AJ-V8 makes it a Musclecar.
Greetings!
Bill, you should have a podcast!! The wisdom and humor should be front and center.
Social distancing is no problem for me. I’ve been married for 30 years.
Not pointed out, but this is a short wheel base W140. Not sure where he came up with the hp number, but that's way wrong. That's the horsepower for the S500 with M119 V8, not this diesel. The S500 (long wheelbase with the bigger M119) is the best all around W140. 220k on mine and with proper mtc, these are durable, vault like, suprisingly nimble sedans. I think the W220 wheels look just fine here and better than stock. I had them until switching to AMG Monoblock. Any well cared for W140 is a rewarding drive and the pinnacle of German sedans.
Since you seem to think you know so much, why not start up your own TH-cam Channel and leave the rest of us to enjoy this man's great level of entertainment.. who cares if he gets some stuff wrong? We're not gonna buy it, we're here for the witty repartee and good one-liners
@@Nunofurdambiznez He sells cars. Getting something majorly wrong is no trifle if you're considering a purchase. Like you, I enjoy his channel very much and think he has great taste in what he keeps in inventory. Also, running your own TH-cam Channel is not a prerequisite for making a constructive comment.
Bill for president. You are so cool. Great guy. Your comments are ready for the golden awards. What is the thing about this toilet 🚽paper? The same here in Germany 🇩🇪 I can not understand this. If you take Vitamin D3 5.000ie daily plus Magnesia that helps out too. Plus to me Gin, I am a Gin guy. Take care and stay healthy.
My favorite S class of all time. Especially the coupe versions 😍
It has 150hp
Be careful of this 3.5 liter diesel engine. I owned one of these 140 chasis diesels years ago and it required an engine replacement because several of the connecting rods were bent. Thank good ness it was under warranty as it would have been $14K for a factory rebuilt crate motor replaced at the Mercedes dealer. The other big dollar issue here is with leaking A/C evap cores that require complete disassembly of the dash because its buried behind everything. That job..as I recall was about $3500(20 years ago) at the Mercedes dealer. My particular car had that job done twice
I had $23K worth of warranty work down on the Mercedes diesel 140 car I owned...and this was 20 plus years ago
I was a "regular" at Crown Mercedes Benz in Dublin Ohio
Thank you Bill, other than showing us a beautiful gem of a car, your outlook on current events are awesome.
This guy must’ve had some bad experience with birds when he was a kid.
DOGS AND CARS 😂🤣
W220 wheels on a W140 make me sad
A tour of Naples would be great, esp. with your insights. Was thinking about getting a house down there.
That grille is not original. It came off of a V-12 version. The Turbodiesel versions have fewer horizontal vanes.
Ah man, I knew something about that grill threw me off! Nice catch good Sir. The 600s had the most subtle little touches, and that grill was so sharp.
The 140 killed Diana
The 126 was Sacco's masterpiece.
I don't think it makes a difference at this point..
This with s600 v12. Back when presidents used to get chauffeured around in 90s
These were the BEST! AS TIGERS ARE! ALWAYS! 💪👊🐯🐯🐯👑👑👑🐯🐯🐯🐯🔱🔱🔱🔱🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆THE NUMBER 1 ALL SPORTS MASCOTS IN THE WORLD ARE TIGERS🐯🐯🐯🐯🔱🔱🔱🔱
bill is not a nature photographer lol
No way that you just uploaded my favorite Mercedes ever made
The engine you displayed is OM 603 D35 A with 12 valves (Single cam - OHC) 3500cc. This engine was rated from MB at 148hp 310Nm.
His successor was OM 606 D 30 LA 24 valves ( dual overhead cams - DOHC ) 3000cc rated by MB at 174hp 330Nm. The only way you can get 300hp from 603 or 606 is by contacting DieselPumpUk 😅
The engine you displayed is OM 603 D35 A with 12 valves (Single cam - OHC) 3500cc. This engine was rated from MB at 148hp 310Nm.
His successor was OM 606 D 30 LA 24 valves ( dual overhead cams - DOHC ) 3000cc rated by MB at 174hp 330Nm. The only way you can get 300hp from 603 or 606 is by contacting DieselPumpUk 😅
Sorry I’m off on another tangent - wouldn’t you be too if nobody helped you not even doctors - and every sensory perception and thought u had was rebroadcast and discussed by people in your head for 3 goddamn years EVERY SINGLE THOUGHT!!!!! And it’s comical here yes and laughable but it’s really not .
What a beautiful car.
8:23 I don't know where you got your numbers from, but this engine made 110 kW, which is 150 HP. The successor, the 300 Turbodiesel, made 177 HP.
Not a big fan of this model.... I used to love them and I still have a soft spot for the V12 engines, but the drop in build quality and durability over the W126 despite being 25% more expensive when new just blows my mind.
These cars look three times as tired as what a comparable W126 would from the same era (86+). Problems with heater cores, wiring harnesses, and the overall build is just disappointing for what they cares cost 20+ years ago new. I can see why someone would want either the coupe or a V12 model of this era, but otherwise, it is far wiser and smarter to get an LS400 from the same era. It isn't worth the extra headache that comes with these cars. If your stuck on Mercedes, stick with the W126 and get a 560SEC.... those things are nice
Nutritional Chemistry The facelift models(1997)S420 and S500 are more reliable than the petrol w126 were. Less maintenance and stronger engines. The real issue with later models are the soft close doors of equipped but even those are replaceable without even taking off the door card. The truly terrible early model years spoil the cars reputation. Btw, coming from a former owner of 1998 ls400 that only had 115k miles on it, the less doesn’t even compare in comfort and interior quality. Especially since 20+ years later they cost 10k+ for a good one.
That thing is slow as shit!
The toilet paper, the bald eagles, Ozzy, Mariah, Celine, the phone and the bats . .😂😂😂😂 god, this is a classic !! and , yes, it was a weird and crazy time. god bless You. N.B. / Vienna A.
It does not have 315 horse power. What a fool for saying so, it's 149 horse power and 211 torque.
I knew bill had a smoker voice! Lol. Its ok Bill I smoked for 30yrs. Just recently quit 2 yrs ago. I’m pushin 50 soooo better let that shit go buddy. Now the knob creek.......that’s a different story. I’m constantly spitting mine on the screen as I watch your videos.
Over-Engineering is subjective. For instance, the hood’s service position is not a design that I would consider to be over-engineered.
Ozzie's bat may have been farm raised...lol..
Organic, no GMO’s
And here I am, watching this from Lithuania, and yes crime bosses from era long gone and thankfully forgotten indeed liked these, especially the 600SEL, which had a nickname 'The Hog'.
Long time fan here, you never disappoint Bill!
I owned one of these, make no mistake though - these cars are worn out after 100k miles, mine was burning a quart of oil every couple days, others threw rods. The 6 cylinder 3.5 liter is too small of an engine for a big car, fine if you buy it new and trade in before it wears out.
So, when Bill says, “Canadians”.......
Bill noticed when Canadian tourists visit Florida, they pack the car, including small cars, with people. And looked chipper whilst doing so.
Hey Bill, thanks for doing the videos, really enjoying them while I'm stuck in the house. Could you do a video on your 2008 CLS550? It's such an unusual design. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.
I watched all his videos during the early, mid and late days of the Kung-flu. They were always good for a laugh. Thanks, Bill!!
One of my favorite things ever is probably a diesel S class
For me, ANY Mercedes-Benz diesel. I had a 1985 300CD that was absolutely wonderful. I loved the 1986 300SDL that even better.
One of the best sedan cars ever built. (Without that diesel shit). Also, not a 9 mm pistol, it is more of a full-auto H&K MP5K (Called as "Scorpion" in some countries) type of car.
Is this how it goes for everyone ? - voices takeover like they own the place (mind) and commentary is here and laughable for the victims ? No police stop it ?
I actually like it when you talk about other stuff than cars 😂
I think you're Wrong on the 350 Horsepower rating. That's over 1.5 HP per Cubic inch, that's a Long Stretch for a Diesel.
Love watching your videos even though I'm not in the market for a car have my 2015 s550 and 1997 SL500 but your videos.are so entertaining 😂 I gotta look you up next time I'm near Tampa
Awesome pair! Your newer S Class is the perfect compliment to the 'chisled from granite' R129 SL.
Naples is 166 miles from Tampa which would be a joyous drive for you in either of your two cars!
Tank on wheels 💪
I think that it is Bills imperfections that keep us all glued to his reviews. Who cares if he gets this and that wrong like HP figures and my have un-PC views on major issue and is a misogynist - We all got faults and this is light entertainment as well as informative. Good balance in my mind. A tour of Naples without the traffic would be great - didn't get there this month as usual and miss the place - got to wait til October now and hope the panic is over by then.
I agree with your statements, Jon Boy, 110 % 1 million thumbs up!
I really don’t think Bill is a Misogynist! (And I am a woman with the W140). I’ve watched quite a few of his reviews and i really don’t get that feeling from him. I think he’s hilarious and is very very different in his style of car reviews that is intriguing and definitely keeps me interested! If I got the idea of mysogyny from him, I’d never have watched as many reviews as I have and would have been LONG GONE…
Ahh, the Diana model. Perfect.
Coronavirus is nothing. You wanna try terminal flatulence. Put it this way, everyone around you needs face masks in that situation. On the plus side, as everyone is wearing face masks at the moment due to the coronavirus, terminal flatulence sufferers are in their element. The only problem is, everywhere is now so quiet that there's no passing off the continual parps as the product of a nearby brass band playing Handel's Hornpipe.
the american models sucked bad,weak rods cause pistons to oval bores.A 300sdl motor in these a better solution,and using the 3.5s injection pump.
The temp gauge is probably just a dirty contact in the instrument cluster temp gauge. The gauge has pins that slide into the cluster housing. Slide it in and out a few times! (yikes...)
i think its getting current from another dial with stripped out wire insulations, probably the oil preassure, whatever one is on the same cable and plug on the back of cluster
5:40 the same thing happened with the 1st gen Porsche Panamera, apparently the VW boss was 6ft 4 and wanted to be able to sit in the back comfortably, which is why it looked so ugly.
Addiction is just dedication spelled wrong guys
I'll bet you a bottle of Corona virus whisky that this car has M-B Tex and not leather.
hahaha only Mercedes cars have power-indicator. Mercedes invented the power-indicator! 😂
Lithuanian crime syndicate😆 on these days were way better to see police roll to your yard then s500.. Sacco also designed w220
What? A German car was over engineered that's crazy talk. (Sarcasm)
Coolant temp gauge was freaking out from the phone ringer before Bill did!