I read somewhere a while back that in Japan, when transit workers go on strike, they continue to operate the system without being paid and let passengers use it for free until a deal is reached and agreed upon.
Mrs Chow you raised the tax! Give it to TTC! At meantime, Cut your staff, including bonuses and freeze your raise. Stop wasting money on the non needed projects!
Rick Leary should never have been hired by the TTC. Good on the workers for flexing their power, I hope to god that management gives them what they deserve because I have no other option if the TTC shuts down.
@@anthony560 But Rick Leary pay way better and don’t care what happens to the TTC! He can’t even do anything to those people who constantly going for FREE RIDES which so much unfair to people like me who lives scraping and loading monthly pass!
Notice how they haven't said anything about the revenue drop even when ridership has 'increased'. On the StreetCars and Buses where Proof of Purchase is in place I can GUARANTEE that on average 4 out of 10 riders DON"T PAY!!!!!!
ADD to the equation Bus Drivers allowing a free ride when people do not have "balance" on their card. It happened to me but I refused it and walked back to the station to recharge my presto card.
@@ajc5298 sitting there arguing with one person holding all the other paying customers hostage isn't a solution, so they allow the person on and keep everyone moving. Makes sense.
It was Mike Harris that pulled Ontario’s contribution to the TTC’s operating subsidy back in the late 1990s. None of the provincial government since then has put it back and Doug Ford didn’t remove what was already gone.
@@pretty_troll Generalizing them is not Fair even as I observe that maybe half of the employees aren’t doing their job as you see so many Supervisors doing NOTHING but just chatting around and don’t even dare to help, they are like CHISEL.
This is exactly the reason why Rob Ford declared the TTC essential when he was Mayor. He was sick of these people holding the city hostage every time they would go on strike
Why weren't they bargaining long before the expiry of the contract? Wages must keep pace with inflation. I don't want to ride in a TTC vehicle where the operator has money concerns on their mind rather than the job at hand. It's dangerous. As for contracting out, perhaps the management of the TTC should be contracted out.
Most people don’t get an automatic pay increase with inflation, what makes TTC or any other group special. Also contracting out makes perfect sense when current TTC workers already make so much. It is escalating wage demands that drive contracting work. All things being equal most companies would rather keep operations in house if they can afford to do so
@@Kyt2024 No group of hourly workers or salaried professional career management personnel should ever be considered "special". In order to recruit and retain a competent workforce, any business must offer a competitive wage or lose out to those that do. You can easily see what the effect of this "race to the bottom" of wages has done to the trucking industry with more and more incompetent driver's on our highways. When one considers the cost of housing in Toronto, how can the TTC retain good drivers if they can't afford to live in the city they serve? With regard to inflation, is there a logical reason explaining why an hourly worker should suffer any more than salaried management? Are the workers wages increasing at the same rate as them over time? It's all about what is equitable for all employees regardless of their position. I don't mind at all if the TTC has to raise it's fares to reflect the true cost of providing the services it does. Finally, I'm not a pro union leftist but a retired successful businessman that faced reality head on and dealt with it rather than pretend that somehow at sometime someone will fix things.
This is a job for humans. This is a difficult job. No one works for 8-10 with no lunch break or washroom break in any other job. Drivers are the first to meet violence on the bus and deal with it until help arrives. Driver assaults are up as is crime everywhere. These people can’t defend themselves. These people are responsible for the safety of everyone and everything inside and outside of the bus. With all the distractions and challenges on the job I wonder who else works at that speed with that much responsibility
About time. I was wondering when the TTC employees would be ready to strike. After all they had that chance delayed back in 2020. Would of been madness had they went on strike then, but look at Toronto now…
well from my interaction with the ttc i would have to say there a few good people, and there the nasty majority. there is little enforcement of the rules for say bus drivers, it use to be they were held to schedule, now not so much. on a line i take all the time some of the drivers push hard to get to the end so they can take an unscheduled break. it makes the ride uncomfortable and so what dangerous. oh yah they need to learn some manners.
@@gamileking1 doesn't that already happen? They keep diverting service, shut down sections of the subways on weekends and of course service gets suspended when one of the homeless starts trouble on the system, so it'll be like any other day on the TTC, except longer....
It was Mike Harris that pulled Ontario’s contribution to the TTC’s operating subsidy back in the late 1990s. None of the provincial government since then has put it back and Doug Ford didn’t remove what was already gone.
I say, dew it. Let there be a little chaos once in a while. Plus it happened to me back in Ottawa. Oof, if it wasnt for Obama, it still would have been on strike lol.
Lakeshore west streetcar line was running buses for over 5 years. How many billions of tax payer was wasted redoing the streetcar tracks and power lines over and over again. Queen streetcar line is a freaking mess. How much is a fare collector making theses days??????
Unions in Germany do well. They are the 4th largest economy and their citizens have a great quality of life. USA has a low union participation rate. Unless one is rich there, their quality of life is ... 'iffy'
I read somewhere a while back that in Japan, when transit workers go on strike, they continue to operate the system without being paid and let passengers use it for free until a deal is reached and agreed upon.
Yea because Japanese people have a sense of duty and responsibility unlike our entitled workers who have no loyalty to the public.
In New York, they can't strike at all
That is in Paris . In Japan NOBODY goes on strike as you can kiss your job GOOD BYE
People walk on the bus now without paying thinking it’s free!!!
a shame we don't live in Japan
Mrs Chow you raised the tax! Give it to TTC!
At meantime, Cut your staff, including bonuses and freeze your raise. Stop wasting money on the non needed projects!
no, she needs to cut top level salaries
Get out of here. Those bus drivers make almost $40/hour.
Excellent. So glad every TTC worker has toronto commuters as their number 1 bargaining chip.
you mean hostage right? 🤨
They'll be replaced with robots
Cool, less vehicle break downs caused by drivers unscrewing the radiator cap so they get an hour pay sitting waiting for a tow.
Yep it's true
@@RyanStonedonCanadianGamingdamn thats sad
@@RyanStonedonCanadianGaminghalf tue reason why i dont like unions
Not in buses. AI can't handle the snow.
TTC = Take The Car (or Cab). Pay more for bad service? I don't think so.
shhhh
hear, hear .. 🍾🥂
Why not just get rid of the TTC and GO trains altogether? I never ride on them and won't miss them.
Rick Leary should never have been hired by the TTC. Good on the workers for flexing their power, I hope to god that management gives them what they deserve because I have no other option if the TTC shuts down.
Get ready for your fares to go up again.
@@anthony560
But Rick Leary pay way better and don’t care what happens to the TTC! He can’t even do anything to those people who constantly going for FREE RIDES which so much unfair to people like me who lives scraping and loading monthly pass!
I like how they admit their workers are overpaid and inefficient.
"They want to replace our expensive workers with competitive ones"
Notice how they haven't said anything about the revenue drop even when ridership has 'increased'. On the StreetCars and Buses where Proof of Purchase is in place I can GUARANTEE that on average 4 out of 10 riders DON"T PAY!!!!!!
ADD to the equation Bus Drivers allowing a free ride when people do not have "balance" on their card. It happened to me but I refused it and walked back to the station to recharge my presto card.
@@ajc5298 sitting there arguing with one person holding all the other paying customers hostage isn't a solution, so they allow the person on and keep everyone moving. Makes sense.
Never ending feelings that we are hostages whilst running on a treadmill and then it Stops..........Sounds like our economy....
It was Mike Harris that pulled Ontario’s contribution to the TTC’s operating subsidy back in the late 1990s. None of the provincial government since then has put it back and Doug Ford didn’t remove what was already gone.
Union mobs are holding the public hostage.😂😂
as if they're good for anything else 😂
@@pretty_troll
Generalizing them is not Fair even as I observe that maybe half of the employees aren’t doing their job as you see so many Supervisors doing NOTHING but just chatting around and don’t even dare to help, they are like CHISEL.
@@galitovgervacio1688 im speaking frm personal experience & mind ur business now
@@galitovgervacio1688i am speaking frm personal experience, make no mistake
@@galitovgervacio1688 u dont decide wats best for me. thats not how life works.
This is exactly the reason why Rob Ford declared the TTC essential when he was Mayor. He was sick of these people holding the city hostage every time they would go on strike
Shame on ALL of them!
where you from since you've got Na Zi insignia
@@AbrahamPinkelman ???????????????????
Trained, skilled professionals?!?!?!?!?!
Their service is s@@@ half look like they were on welfare and were told to go and get a job.
at stand up comedy maybe.
they can't even call from one bus to another or open a cam for theft...professionals?
Both sides are garbage
hear, hear .. 🍾🥂
This is the reality.
Strike will happen 99.9% in my view. Time to make serious offers over the weekend. Traffic will be a disaster over the weekend.
Why weren't they bargaining long before the expiry of the contract? Wages must keep pace with inflation. I don't want to ride in a TTC vehicle where the operator has money concerns on their mind rather than the job at hand. It's dangerous. As for contracting out, perhaps the management of the TTC should be contracted out.
Most people don’t get an automatic pay increase with inflation, what makes TTC or any other group special. Also contracting out makes perfect sense when current TTC workers already make so much. It is escalating wage demands that drive contracting work. All things being equal most companies would rather keep operations in house if they can afford to do so
@@Kyt2024 No group of hourly workers or salaried professional career management personnel should ever be considered "special". In order to recruit and retain a competent workforce, any business must offer a competitive wage or lose out to those that do. You can easily see what the effect of this "race to the bottom" of wages has done to the trucking industry with more and more incompetent driver's on our highways. When one considers the cost of housing in Toronto, how can the TTC retain good drivers if they can't afford to live in the city they serve? With regard to inflation, is there a logical reason explaining why an hourly worker should suffer any more than salaried management? Are the workers wages increasing at the same rate as them over time? It's all about what is equitable for all employees regardless of their position. I don't mind at all if the TTC has to raise it's fares to reflect the true cost of providing the services it does. Finally, I'm not a pro union leftist but a retired successful businessman that faced reality head on and dealt with it rather than pretend that somehow at sometime someone will fix things.
Strike is the right of Blue Colours.
Yay more taxes, enjoy socialism
Taxes is modern day slavery, force upon the state with the threat of force/violence.
@@D33Lux taxes is just a way to fund things . If the government couldn't collect taxes it wouldnt be able to function .
@@charlesbronson4026 I assume you laugh a lot at reasonable statements . Could you explain what tax money is used for?
Panjeet wants to drive the train.
This is a job for humans. This is a difficult job. No one works for 8-10 with no lunch break or washroom break in any other job. Drivers are the first to meet violence on the bus and deal with it until help arrives. Driver assaults are up as is crime everywhere. These people can’t defend themselves. These people are responsible for the safety of everyone and everything inside and outside of the bus. With all the distractions and challenges on the job I wonder who else works at that speed with that much responsibility
Well said
Ontario government is the worst for bargaining with anyone.
It's a Municipal body. Blame Toronto.
The unions are as bad as anyone else
We want more money and less work.. Make sure it's government money
With their 5 stars service , give me a break .
About time. I was wondering when the TTC employees would be ready to strike. After all they had that chance delayed back in 2020. Would of been madness had they went on strike then, but look at Toronto now…
well from my interaction with the ttc i would have to say there a few good people, and there the nasty majority. there is little enforcement of the rules for say bus drivers, it use to be they were held to schedule, now not so much. on a line i take all the time some of the drivers push hard to get to the end so they can take an unscheduled break. it makes the ride uncomfortable and so what dangerous.
oh yah they need to learn some manners.
I should look for a job at TTC I get to NOT work quite a bit while waiting for a raise every year or so.
How exactly will we be able to tell when they are in "full withdrawal of service"?
No bues or streetcars and subways running and subway close
@@gamileking1 doesn't that already happen? They keep diverting service, shut down sections of the subways on weekends and of course service gets suspended when one of the homeless starts trouble on the system, so it'll be like any other day on the TTC, except longer....
When traffic is running smoothly .
@@lassepeterson2740 🤣
Ordinary commuters as bargaining chips
Unions holding the public hostage again
Where are all the blacks going to go now that their favorite hunting ground is out of service?
😂 what about indians
TH-cam , are you gonna remove this comment for Hate Speech ?
Or are you gonna keep it , because it's being said by a White person ?
If you have vacations, benefits etc you can thank unions. Look back into the history of labour.
Unions once had a purpose. We are long past that.
So same service then!
So how much will chow chow raise my property taxes now?
It was Mike Harris that pulled Ontario’s contribution to the TTC’s operating subsidy back in the late 1990s. None of the provincial government since then has put it back and Doug Ford didn’t remove what was already gone.
@@detroitdieselseries5071so you want them to cut expenses?
Uber driver just get ready for that strike 😂
Nobody going anywhere downtown. Gridlock, guaranteed.
Rarely take the TTC. Baseline assumption is it won’t be running.
Listen I'm not a Fan of the TTC as far as Scheduling... but Mechanical wise... these Trains run bloody Well!!
Good, traffic will flow mich better without the busses and LRT.
shhhhhhh
Toronto plan strike 100 percent😅
UNION MOBS HOLD PUBLIC HOSTAGE AGAIN 😂 > PRIVATIZED, PROBLEM SOLVED!
I say, dew it. Let there be a little chaos once in a while. Plus it happened to me back in Ottawa. Oof, if it wasnt for Obama, it still would have been on strike lol.
😢 well inflation affects everybody
Go ahead, strike...ask for more pay. You're just making the move to driver-less vehicles even more attractive.
Driverless cars at this point is the same as marty mcfly hoverboard. Pure science fiction and we wont see anything in the next 50 years
😂 yah ok. Such ignorance.
AI and automation may take over at some point.
My Son-in-law is a driver. He said they are going for a 12% increase over 3 years.
They get paid too much, these guys literally get a sealed cabin to hide from the homeless people unlike bus drivers
A major shutdown because "those bums" want more money?
hear, hear .. 🍾🥂
Lakeshore west streetcar line was running buses for over 5 years. How many billions of tax payer was wasted redoing the streetcar tracks and power lines over and over again. Queen streetcar line is a freaking mess. How much is a fare collector making theses days??????
Privatized.
I don't care. I work online from home and I don't rely on TTC for any of mu commute.
Unions have to go . . . fare is so expensive!
Unions in Germany do well. They are the 4th largest economy and their citizens have a great quality of life.
USA has a low union participation rate. Unless one is rich there, their quality of life is ... 'iffy'
Unions are the reason you have workers rights, weekends, overtime, health and safety, etc. Learn some history.
@@InvisibleHotdog Unions were created by the mob, how much more inflation can society take you greedy pigs.
I think transit should be subsidized or Government. How will the union continue, if people can't afford it ?
@@InvisibleHotdogthe history of unions has no relevance to how little we need them now
you're NOT getting anymore fare hike so drop it TTC
if that's the case.
Even if one side drop it it’s always the union will fight back