Keep hearing that traffic congestion costs the economy billions every year. Surely the tens of millions it costs to fund this particular program makes sense in that context to get more people out of their cars and onto more sustainable transportation options.
Will keep driving my car until the crazy people crackheads are gone from TTC and the unreliable delays are resolved. Until that will take the burden of driving my car. Public transportation in Toronto is a joke
I know some ignorant people (who often don't live in the suburbs, and maybe not even the province or country) really like to blame regular people for driving, but the fact is the population is far too spread out, the frequency of buses just far too sparse (this is a big one), and the timing far too unreliable. Canada is just a very challenging place for transit: low population density, large land mass, and bad weather half the year.
The GTA finally catching up to other G7 cities. Canada for been a developed nation is so behind in transportation. I just hope the province continues to fund this program. Ontarians and Canadians DESERVE world class transit .
@@kimochi33 Not true. Cities were not built for cars. They were __bulldozed__. There is a reason not everyone owned their own horse a hundred or so years ago; the same logic applies to cars.
@toyinoliviajibowu7807You're thinking of contactless payment. We have that. I'd argue that there are many more places in the US where contactless doesn't work, compared to Canada - we've adopted contactless payments a lot faster. You can often tap with your phone just like you would with a transit card, credit, or debit.
Literally halfing your transportation costs. That's great. And fair too probably. If you're taking two systems to get to your destination, you're probably travelling just a bit on each system. It's not like you're using 2x as much transit as the typical person who uses one system.
Miway, Brampton, YRT, and GO all have something similar. For the first 3 i think its pay 12 trips and then the rest of the week is free while GO discounts your fare drastically from trip 31-40 and any trips after 40 are free
Barrie, Brampton, Bradford West Gwillimbury, Durham Region, Grand River, Guelph, Hamilton, Milton, Mississauga, Oakville, Toronto and York Region. All areas around Lake Ontario.
Holy cow when I was going to school I had to do YRT - GO - TTC because of the changes to transit at York University. This is great for students it will save tons of money for them. I dont remember but I think it was costing me 20+ dollars a day...
Between one-fair transit, Wifi inside buses, less delays and subway line extension (to areas like Scarborough). Finally the TTC is improving and the experience is becoming better and I love to see it. Hope this keeps up because this is all great news.
now that fare is fully integrated the TTC should be running deeper into Mississauga and York Region to eliminate inconvenient bus transfers on popular routes.
TTC could definitely run its 80 Queensway route into Mississauga, which for some reason doesnt really have its own Queensway bus route. Ideally it could go all the way to Missisauga Trillium Hospital, or barring that at least Dixie GO. Conversely, the TTC could probably abandon its Burnhamthorpe and Bloor West routes, which are already perfectly duplicated by Miway routes except the Miway buses extend further west, and could instead reinvest those buses into underserved routes elsewhere in the city.
Extending rht Bloor line into Mississauga is, long overdue. And they should extend the Crosstown into Mississauga/Brampton as well. Integrate these lines with the new Hurontario LRT.
This should stick around. It doesn't just benefit transit users. If more people take transit because of the cost reduction, there should be less traffic which benefits people who drive. It will not happen overnight but if people start seeing more potential money in their pocket taking transit and travel times are comparable to driving, they might actually ditch their cars. Especially now when money is tight for a lot of families. This will also be good news for those who need a new car but can't afford the insane prices. If a large amount of people start selling vehicles, the prices should drop.
bro I've been messaging them for years asking when they'll support something more modern like Suica in Japan or Smart trip in Washington DC. The transit system in Montreal has the worst cost structure I've ever seen.
The fact this wasn't a thing from day one is insane to me 😮😮😮😮 Where I live (Edmonton), big city tickets work for regionals, just not normal monthly passes (you need fancy commuter pass)
With the province funding it, I don't think it's a good idea. How would Calgary or Fort Mac feel about paying for the Edmonton bus system? The idea of one flat rate is a good one. But other areas who already pay for their own public transit now being forced to pay for Toronto and area's as well? Not a fan of that...
not really insane, Canada isn't known for doing things efficiently day one. We're always a decade behind rest of the world. Bad contracts, bad bureaucracy.
@@danaudet6987Everyone works in Toronto, else don't come to Toronto.... Quite honestly they should implement toll for private non-commercial vehicles on highways when entering Toronto proper. You cannot compare Calgary or Edmonton to the GTA, its not even close.
@@RanenPo But you still only need to pay one fare as there's only one transit operator. In the Toronto area they have different operators in different cities. Imagine if in Vancouver you had to get off a Vancouver transit bus and pay another fare to get on a 2nd bus in Burnaby or Richmond.
@@raptorspostgametalk No. It goes from the Trillium hospital on the Queensway to Brampton. It goes right past Square One, but doesn't go into the bus terminal. There is also 17, which goes from Square One to Hwy 407. I don't know what bus goes to Shoppers World.
In L.A. everything is dirt cheap wherever you go (US$1.75). Even cheaper if you have a senior or disabled pass. One exception is Metrolink commuter rail. More expensive for that.
I've taken LA metro.. it's pretty rough. It's too bad because on paper the system is pretty impressive and has a lot of potential, but there's too much anti-social behaviour.
The real reason behind this is to bring ridership up. If they can prove more passengers, municipalities can receive more funding from federal and provincial governments. Hopefully, that money will go back into the system.
Will keep driving my car until the crazy people crackheads are gone from TTC and the unreliable delays are resolved Until that will take the burden of driving my car. Public transportation in Toronto is ajoke
@@FreedomIsMyReligion you're the last person that metrolinx or the ttc care about, as you have an ideological and political dislike of transit. They will improve service frequency and bring in the people who don't have such dogmatic beliefs.
@@Kresimir_ I support public transportations like Japan, Germany, Norway have. Reliable, safe, and reasonable price tag. North America public transportation it's a joka and yes, until they fix it, I won't subject myself to the burden.
@@FreedomIsMyReligionHey, as long as you aren't actively trying to halt progress in public transportation I don't mind. Your input is valuable though because there are many people that prefer cars for the reasons you've mentioned
@@Ash_Wen-li Not at all. Quite the opposite. The reason for me to completely stop taking public transportation is more of a form of protest than anything else. I spend much more commuting with my car than I would by using TTC, but I have had soooo many issues with TTC (crazy people, delays, harassment, to name a few) that I got fed up and can no longer support it anymore. The lack of police in the subway is also a big issue for me, considering all the bad stuff happening in the subway. Until they fix all this stuff, I won't be supporting it financially, since our contributions are no longer being used properly.
More than this, they need to add more high capacity high speed public transport such as extra subway lines. There's absolutely no relief lines for when any one line goes out right now. Plus the city is far larger than the existing lines. The existing lines support the city of at least 50 or 100 years ago.
Pay by distance - as in many European and Asian cities (and on GO trains). Tap on/tap off every time you board or disembark. Fares would drop for shorter distances; rise for longer ones. Maybe pay $1 to travel from Queen to Union; but $4 from Union to Vaughan.
Toronto monthly pass is twice the price of Montreal ... Montreal Students pay $ 56 . per month , adult $ 97 and free over 65 . . The pass is good for Montreal s metro , the Express metro REM , buses and EXO trains .
ideal situation if you can get many people to use public transport to come into Toronto and leave their cars at home. or get Toronto car users to use public transport more often. there are too many cars in use at the same time in Toronto. should be addressed as the situation will get much worse in the future. am I dreaming?
All of these ideas and thoughts of improvement are already implemented in Australia... Lol... Gap is 15$ per day based on distance. Capped fare and weekend. Cap of 50$ ish for the week
Canada, Toronto is about 25 years behind Europe, Japan. They implemented it a long time ago and in a much smarter way. Canadians have no clue how good it can be.
But my issue is the fact that it only works goung one way... I have a transit pass... So going to work its one fare since i work in richmond hill... But coming home i pay essecially 2 fares again...
What am I missing? I'm not from here and have been riding this one fare, way already? Lol if I get on a street car and transfer to a subway, particularly , union subway. I don't have to tap and pay the subway. So does this mean if I pay to take a street car to the subway, I don't have to pay to get in to their subway? Or if I pay to take a street car to the go train, I don't have to pay the go train?
Transfers between subway, bus, and streetcar have always been free within that 2 hour window.... The extra cost would be for GO transit and other municipal buses like York region, Mississauga, Brampton transit .. Now all of those are included as 1 fare now within the 2 hour window.
@mpbell3218I imagine this system may backfire in a way for some people living in the northwestern extremities of places like Mississauga or Brampton, who may be tempted to walk relatively long distances if they can't connect with their second Miway\BT buses within two hours if they come from downtown.
@@ALuimesI mean they already had to pay extra for switching between regions. The two hour limit was always a thing within regions anyway. If they weren't already doing it, the probably wouldn't resort to walking.
@@Ash_Wen-liMy point is that before you could always reach your destination in Peel once you paid the double fare at Islington or VMC. It was only an issue if you came all the way from Markham or Newmarket on YRT. But if you came from downtown (and are too poor or cheap to take GO which costs more than two city transit fares) and you live at Wanless and Creditview in Brampton, you might walk from the Zum stop at Mount Pleasant GO to avoid a second fare after two hours.
So if I'm traveling from brampton to Toronto I don't have to pay an extra fare now is that only for 2 hours or until I go back to Toronto to pay another fare I'm confused 🤔
So you’ll only pay once both ways. Let’s say you go from Brampton to Toronto, that’ll be only one fare no matter how many services you use, as long as the transfer is within the 2 hour period.
you still have to tap on and off for the transfer to work, like reduced fare from any transit agency to GO and Free transfer from GO to any transit agency.
It would be even cheaper to not collect fares. Look at the infrastructure and staff required to collect. It would definitely take more cars off the road and reduce costs for the lowest earners to drop fares entirely.
It's actually of no use... Lost of us use monthly TTC pass and there is no offer on that when you change trains... Hence we will still be paying full GO Train fees.. Only benefits the 5% population who don't use monthly pass..
lost revenues will come in the first phase of implementation for it will change transit patterns of commuters leading to different routes fluctuating in amount of riders either needing to be increased, decreased, improved, rerouted, or redesign for better catchment. Practically just testing out new changes
Funny that people think they're saving money by having the government spend more money....there's no such thing as government....it's all taxpayer money
Provincial taxpayer money being used to subsidize a few cities worth of public transit. I'm sure the people paying taxes everywhere that is not the south Ontario GTA-ish area are pleased as punch to fund the voter base that Ford is buying in advance of the next election.
Everyone knows that the government is funded by taxpayer money, it's not some big secret dude. Instead, people want their taxes to benefit them, which this does. It is much cheaper for everyone to have a good public transit system compared to buying a car, buying gas or charging, paying for parking that car, and not wasting time in traffic to save maybe a few hundred dollars at tax time. Do the math dude, you'll find that funding public transit is much cheaper for almost everyone.
This isn't going to get people to give up their cars....saving seven bucks a day isn't worth giving up your car....I pay enough in taxes, I don't want to subsidize your bus ride....
@@JJUnohu It won't make people give up their cars, but it'll likely reduce the number of pwople making trips using their car. Also you say you don't want to fund other people's publuc transit yet want everyone else to fund your road and highway expansions? And your gas station infastructure? And your road repairs?
@@TheAircool1 This is a perfect response! I couldn't have said it better myself! Seriously, thank you for helping me fight misinformation and logical fallacies!
1600$ a year wtf? 😂 so expensive. In Montreal we have a fixed fare system. That means monthly pass, unlimited use. I only pay $1116 a year. That is insane 😂 not to mention it 3.75$ for one ticket to ride any commuter train, bus, metro (subway) or light rail across the entire island of Montreal with a 2 hours transfer window.
I will keep driving my car until the crazy people crackheads are gone from TTC and the unreliable delays are resolved. Until that, I will take the burden of driving my car. Public transportation in Toronto is a joke.
Thank you government Canada. Mr Ford is powerful help peoples low income . Thank you All your help us. Save money living is going good life. Good hearh and can buy food more happy life. Thank you Mr Ford.
This sounds good but if riders save up to $1600 a year who is going to cover that short fall? Even if it is only a few hundred saved each year there are millions of riders each year that means millions less in fares for GO, TTC etc. Every year they are short money and cry for more so if they have less fare who will cover this short fall? I am going to guess all of us taxpayers. Maybe the people riding the transit should stop taking money out of everyone's pocket and actually pay for the transit they use like the rest of us.
if thats what you want, maybe we should also start charging for parking anywhere in city, cancel all the fuel subsidies, and pay for every road expansion by toll instead of us taxpayers who pay for all of it even though we don't drive. the province and federal government already spends more per car owner to cover the shortfall than it does for transit users.
@@_framedlife 1- we do need to pay for parking everywhere in the city. 2- no such thing as fuel subsidizes. In fact it is the opposite. Half the cost of gas is taxes that is supposed to subsidize public transit (so going to my original point tax payers are already paying to support transit. Why should we pay more) 3- taxes pay for road expansion that public transit also uses. Transit on the other hand not only gets subsides to pay for its expansion it also gets subsides to continue to operate compared to a car owner that needs to pay for the cost and maintenance of their own transportation (insurance, gas, repairs etc) while on top of that funding the subsides to public transit (i.e. the transit user doesn't pay enough in fares to cover the cost of their transit use) 4- show what report states the govt pays more per car owner to cover short falls than it does for transit users? Everyone including transit users use roads (unless you are trying to argue your bus flies). And everyone pays taxes that covers the cost of those roads. Transit users however pay a fare that doesn't cover the cost to run that transit system. The taxpayers have to make up the difference and with this change to fares the taxpayers will need to pay more. Enough is enough. Let transit users start paying for the cost of their own transit like the rest of us do Or are you trying to argue that you pay for a car owners insurance, repairs, gas, car payments etc?
Exactly....it's funny that people think they're saving money by having the government spend more.....there's no such thing as government money, it's all taxpayer money.....this is a political shell game...they will get that money by taxing you somewhere else
A large portion of transit users are people who can't afford their own vehicle. The subsidies are in place to benefit those that need it the most. You're essentially saying that poorer people should be taxed more for using a system that pollutes less and transports more people per vehicle.
Pacman you have to understand roads are subsidized by EVERYONE's income, even for those people who don't own a car. Your gas tax cannot pay paving the roads since the 80s. Look at how many billions of dollars are spent on building, expanding, and maintaining 400-series highways, and you realize funds allocated for public transit is a tear drop. Also, your car (mostly single occupant) takes more space per person, damages more roads, than a 30-person bus at capacity, by a long shot!
Keep hearing that traffic congestion costs the economy billions every year. Surely the tens of millions it costs to fund this particular program makes sense in that context to get more people out of their cars and onto more sustainable transportation options.
"But, but..the price of gas went down." Some people are addicted to cars and won't ever take public transit.
Will keep driving my car until the crazy people crackheads are gone from TTC and the unreliable delays are resolved. Until that will
take the burden of driving my car. Public transportation in Toronto is a joke
@@thefozzybear Those carbrains cannot be helped imo
@@thefozzybearPeople will take public transit when it becomes more convenient than driving.
I know some ignorant people (who often don't live in the suburbs, and maybe not even the province or country) really like to blame regular people for driving, but the fact is the population is far too spread out, the frequency of buses just far too sparse (this is a big one), and the timing far too unreliable. Canada is just a very challenging place for transit: low population density, large land mass, and bad weather half the year.
The GTA finally catching up to other G7 cities. Canada for been a developed nation is so behind in transportation. I just hope the province continues to fund this program. Ontarians and Canadians DESERVE world class transit .
Except Canada is in North America aka car centric paradise.
Cities are built for cars not people nor transport 😂
@@kimochi33 Not true. Cities were not built for cars. They were __bulldozed__. There is a reason not everyone owned their own horse a hundred or so years ago; the same logic applies to cars.
North America is car-centric, unlike places in Europe and Asia.
@toyinoliviajibowu7807You're thinking of contactless payment. We have that. I'd argue that there are many more places in the US where contactless doesn't work, compared to Canada - we've adopted contactless payments a lot faster. You can often tap with your phone just like you would with a transit card, credit, or debit.
We had this system in place from the previous government. Ford scrapped it. Then brought it back a few years later and got credit for it.
About friggin time.
Peel region now costs $6.60 Round Trip instead of $13 per day.
This will save me at least $120 more a month.
Literally halfing your transportation costs. That's great. And fair too probably. If you're taking two systems to get to your destination, you're probably travelling just a bit on each system. It's not like you're using 2x as much transit as the typical person who uses one system.
You don't really save money by having the government spend more...they're spending your money...they'll get it from you in some other way
they get it from richer people. That's how a society works. Governments also spend your money fixing your road.@@JJUnohu
relax bro. have some positivity in your life @@JJUnohu
Thank you Ontario Conservatives.
Fare capping is great for tourism. I was just in NYC and they have a cap of $34 for 12 or more rides within a 7 day period.
Miway, Brampton, YRT, and GO all have something similar. For the first 3 i think its pay 12 trips and then the rest of the week is free while GO discounts your fare drastically from trip 31-40 and any trips after 40 are free
It’s actually cheaper to use an unlimited monthly metrocard. Omny doesn’t have unlimited options yet, and I’m starting to think it never will.
Barrie, Brampton, Bradford West Gwillimbury, Durham Region, Grand River, Guelph, Hamilton, Milton, Mississauga, Oakville, Toronto and York Region. All areas around Lake Ontario.
@@wjm3018you mean lake simcoe
wow this is amazing...wish i had this in univ, but this is great for students
Holy cow when I was going to school I had to do YRT - GO - TTC because of the changes to transit at York University. This is great for students it will save tons of money for them.
I dont remember but I think it was costing me 20+ dollars a day...
Between one-fair transit, Wifi inside buses, less delays and subway line extension (to areas like Scarborough). Finally the TTC is improving and the experience is becoming better and I love to see it. Hope this keeps up because this is all great news.
This is the kind of everybody wins policy people want to see from governments.
now that fare is fully integrated the TTC should be running deeper into Mississauga and York Region to eliminate inconvenient bus transfers on popular routes.
TTC could definitely run its 80 Queensway route into Mississauga, which for some reason doesnt really have its own Queensway bus route. Ideally it could go all the way to Missisauga Trillium Hospital, or barring that at least Dixie GO. Conversely, the TTC could probably abandon its Burnhamthorpe and Bloor West routes, which are already perfectly duplicated by Miway routes except the Miway buses extend further west, and could instead reinvest those buses into underserved routes elsewhere in the city.
@@HipsterShiningArmorYou should discuss this with your local councillors
Extending rht Bloor line into Mississauga is, long overdue. And they should extend the Crosstown into Mississauga/Brampton as well. Integrate these lines with the new Hurontario LRT.
This should stick around. It doesn't just benefit transit users. If more people take transit because of the cost reduction, there should be less traffic which benefits people who drive. It will not happen overnight but if people start seeing more potential money in their pocket taking transit and travel times are comparable to driving, they might actually ditch their cars. Especially now when money is tight for a lot of families. This will also be good news for those who need a new car but can't afford the insane prices. If a large amount of people start selling vehicles, the prices should drop.
I wish I could give this video more than one like. It's that good!
I wish Montreal had something like this. The STM's antiquated fare machines don't even let you pay with your phone.
bro I've been messaging them for years asking when they'll support something more modern like Suica in Japan or Smart trip in Washington DC. The transit system in Montreal has the worst cost structure I've ever seen.
@@CutiePi Don't tell Montrealers. They believe it's the best in the world.
I am saving 50% of my transit fare with this. Thanks
Well done! Big win for those having to use multiple transit systems.
The government will just tax you somewhere else to make up the revenue
The fact this wasn't a thing from day one is insane to me 😮😮😮😮
Where I live (Edmonton), big city tickets work for regionals, just not normal monthly passes (you need fancy commuter pass)
Lol Vancouver still has 3 different zones for transit too
With the province funding it, I don't think it's a good idea. How would Calgary or Fort Mac feel about paying for the Edmonton bus system? The idea of one flat rate is a good one. But other areas who already pay for their own public transit now being forced to pay for Toronto and area's as well? Not a fan of that...
not really insane, Canada isn't known for doing things efficiently day one. We're always a decade behind rest of the world. Bad contracts, bad bureaucracy.
@@danaudet6987Everyone works in Toronto, else don't come to Toronto.... Quite honestly they should implement toll for private non-commercial vehicles on highways when entering Toronto proper. You cannot compare Calgary or Edmonton to the GTA, its not even close.
@@RanenPo But you still only need to pay one fare as there's only one transit operator. In the Toronto area they have different operators in different cities. Imagine if in Vancouver you had to get off a Vancouver transit bus and pay another fare to get on a 2nd bus in Burnaby or Richmond.
That Brampton Transit 103 bus is actually a MiWay bus from Mississauga. That route just happens to end in Brampton.
It is that bus travels from Square One to Shoppers World in brampton
@@raptorspostgametalk No. It goes from the Trillium hospital on the Queensway to Brampton. It goes right past Square One, but doesn't go into the bus terminal. There is also 17, which goes from Square One to Hwy 407. I don't know what bus goes to Shoppers World.
@@James_KnottMaybe the 502 which stops by Shoppers World and ends at Sq. One
@@Ash_Wen-li That's a Brampton "Zum" bus.
A decision that should have been taken at least 15 years ago... I hope they can work on schedules and hygien of the public transit as well.
In L.A. everything is dirt cheap wherever you go (US$1.75). Even cheaper if you have a senior or disabled pass. One exception is Metrolink commuter rail. More expensive for that.
But nobody wants to live in Los Angeles....millions fleeing the state for years
No one takes public transit in LA LOL
How big is transit?
First time ever seeing anyone writing anything remotely positive about notorious L.A. public transportation. Does it even operate past midnight?
I've taken LA metro.. it's pretty rough. It's too bad because on paper the system is pretty impressive and has a lot of potential, but there's too much anti-social behaviour.
A very wonderful change by ttc I really appreciate this change.
I finally can appreciate something Thanks
Thank You!
I'm addicted to your channel. Can't wait for the next upload!
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Public transit should be luxurious, safe and free
The real reason behind this is to bring ridership up. If they can prove more passengers, municipalities can receive more funding from federal and provincial governments. Hopefully, that money will go back into the system.
Will keep driving my car until the crazy people crackheads are gone
from TTC and the unreliable delays are resolved Until that will
take the burden of driving my car. Public transportation in Toronto is
ajoke
@@FreedomIsMyReligion you're the last person that metrolinx or the ttc care about, as you have an ideological and political dislike of transit. They will improve service frequency and bring in the people who don't have such dogmatic beliefs.
@@Kresimir_ I support public transportations like Japan, Germany, Norway have. Reliable, safe, and reasonable price tag. North America public transportation it's a joka and yes, until they fix it, I won't subject myself to the burden.
@@FreedomIsMyReligionHey, as long as you aren't actively trying to halt progress in public transportation I don't mind.
Your input is valuable though because there are many people that prefer cars for the reasons you've mentioned
@@Ash_Wen-li Not at all. Quite the opposite. The reason for me to completely stop taking public transportation is more of a form of protest than anything else. I spend much more commuting with my car than I would by using TTC, but I have had soooo many issues with TTC (crazy people, delays, harassment, to name a few) that I got fed up and can no longer support it anymore. The lack of police in the subway is also a big issue for me, considering all the bad stuff happening in the subway. Until they fix all this stuff, I won't be supporting it financially, since our contributions are no longer being used properly.
This should've been a thing
More than this, they need to add more high capacity high speed public transport such as extra subway lines. There's absolutely no relief lines for when any one line goes out right now. Plus the city is far larger than the existing lines. The existing lines support the city of at least 50 or 100 years ago.
Pay by distance - as in many European and Asian cities (and on GO trains). Tap on/tap off every time you board or disembark. Fares would drop for shorter distances; rise for longer ones. Maybe pay $1 to travel from Queen to Union; but $4 from Union to Vaughan.
2:28 I hope so, too. 🙏🏾 They should keep the one-fare for good. 💲
A buss pass cost so much now when I was growing up a bus pass was just 20 dollars and it lasted all month
Toronto monthly pass is twice the price of Montreal ... Montreal Students pay $ 56 . per month , adult $ 97 and free over 65 . . The pass is good for Montreal s metro , the Express metro REM , buses and EXO trains .
exo trains cannot be compared with GO Transit, barely the reach of the frequencies or even the future development
UP Express is next?
And Vancouver did the opposite. Shame on Translink and BC.
Seattle has had this system for years and it goes from Everett to Tacoma to the Eastside.
They just tax you somewhere else to make up the tax revenue....political shell game
Right, and everyone in Toronto knows what those places are.
@@juliansmith4295 Basically the equivalent of something like Oshawa to Burlington to Newmarket.
you should come to montreal then. one fare for all.
When will Vancouver adopt the same policy?? A 35 mins ride costs 4.9$ one way!!
the Vancouver situation is different; that's fare zones within one system.
@@ALuimesyeah it will work more like a BC transit system transfer to a Translink system
UPEXPRESS part of this deal too?
ideal situation if you can get many people to use public transport to come into Toronto and leave their cars at home. or get Toronto car users to use public transport more often. there are too many cars in use at the same time in Toronto. should be addressed as the situation will get much worse in the future. am I dreaming?
What if you have a monthly pass with the TTC and you transfer to GO? How does this work? 🤔
Why is CBC cameras quality so low? Everytime I watch news on this channel I wonder if it is from 2017 or 2024
If I tap MiWay and then Go, I know my fare from Go onwards is free. But, will my MiWay fare be reimbursed too in lieu of the Go fare?
Buying a car was the best purchase I have ever made!
All of these ideas and thoughts of improvement are already implemented in Australia... Lol... Gap is 15$ per day based on distance. Capped fare and weekend. Cap of 50$ ish for the week
And meanwhile in Hamilton we've had this going on for at least half a year.
you can connect on GO and other transit agencies with reduce fare or free transfer ?
This is the solution it took them to come up with in 2024. In Europe this was introduced in 1988
No TTC should lower their fares
Canada, Toronto is about 25 years behind Europe, Japan. They implemented it a long time ago and in a much smarter way. Canadians have no clue how good it can be.
Without this program the city couldn’t get the poor to travel into the city to work for slave wages.
But my issue is the fact that it only works goung one way... I have a transit pass... So going to work its one fare since i work in richmond hill... But coming home i pay essecially 2 fares again...
One fare program works in MiWay monthly pass in transfer with TTC??
Don't let Loblaw know we're saving 1600 🤑🤑🤔
I have free pass in Durham region, does that mean I can travel free of cost in all these ?
This only works for single fare trips. If you have a monthly pass for any jurisdiction it wouldn’t work.
canada hurry the f up we need high speed rails
This took 15 years. We will be dead by the time we get, fund and build high speed rails.
For such a developed country, it’s transport system gotta be league behind other 1st world countries
Isn't PRESTO good enough?
What about the transit pass
So what the Chicago CTA & RTA did in the early 1980s?
What am I missing? I'm not from here and have been riding this one fare, way already? Lol if I get on a street car and transfer to a subway, particularly , union subway. I don't have to tap and pay the subway.
So does this mean if I pay to take a street car to the subway, I don't have to pay to get in to their subway?
Or if I pay to take a street car to the go train, I don't have to pay the go train?
Transfers between subway, bus, and streetcar have always been free within that 2 hour window.... The extra cost would be for GO transit and other municipal buses like York region, Mississauga, Brampton transit ..
Now all of those are included as 1 fare now within the 2 hour window.
@mpbell3218I imagine this system may backfire in a way for some people living in the northwestern extremities of places like Mississauga or Brampton, who may be tempted to walk relatively long distances if they can't connect with their second Miway\BT buses within two hours if they come from downtown.
@@ALuimesI mean they already had to pay extra for switching between regions. The two hour limit was always a thing within regions anyway. If they weren't already doing it, the probably wouldn't resort to walking.
@@Ash_Wen-liMy point is that before you could always reach your destination in Peel once you paid the double fare at Islington or VMC. It was only an issue if you came all the way from Markham or Newmarket on YRT.
But if you came from downtown (and are too poor or cheap to take GO which costs more than two city transit fares) and you live at Wanless and Creditview in Brampton, you might walk from the Zum stop at Mount Pleasant GO to avoid a second fare after two hours.
So if I'm traveling from brampton to Toronto I don't have to pay an extra fare now is that only for 2 hours or until I go back to Toronto to pay another fare I'm confused 🤔
So you’ll only pay once both ways. Let’s say you go from Brampton to Toronto, that’ll be only one fare no matter how many services you use, as long as the transfer is within the 2 hour period.
so do I still need to tap on and off in go transit ???! or one fare works fine for 2 hours ??? pls reply
you still have to tap on and off for the transfer to work, like reduced fare from any transit agency to GO and Free transfer from GO to any transit agency.
It would be even cheaper to not collect fares. Look at the infrastructure and staff required to collect. It would definitely take more cars off the road and reduce costs for the lowest earners to drop fares entirely.
OCTranspo it’s now your turn… it shouldn’t cost 4 dollars for 4 hours of transit ffs
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More funding for public transit please. More cars and urban sprawl are not the way forward. For our wallets, and the environment!
CanIndia
Finally!!
Still more complicated than the Great Montreal transit fare program...
It’s about time😂
A lot of people doesn't even pay at GO Transit and TTC 🤷🏻♂️
More people pay then don’t…
is this one-fare system already in place? like as of this comment?
yes
@@TheRandCrewsthank you, i saw on go bus they said something like one-fare, too bad i still have to tap on and off go bus, and it's not a fixed fee
As someone who lives in Ontario but not in the GTA I love the idea of paying for transit for those in the GTA. Maybe it could be free.
Yes, and yours too
The GTA generates the lion's share of revenue in the province, which funds the sidewalks and roads in your little town.
But very expensive monthly compared to Montreal the best city in Canada
Rare W
More Taxes - on the payroll
NO NO NO
I'm never getting out of my car. Too many damn weirdos on public transport. I don't feel safe anymore.
okay then so what you’re not the primary target or market for this change, why even bother sharing
I think the theory is, if price goes down, riderships goes up, revenue goes up. More revenue to fund more security services
good start
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Shouldn't this be titled India
It's actually of no use... Lost of us use monthly TTC pass and there is no offer on that when you change trains... Hence we will still be paying full GO Train fees.. Only benefits the 5% population who don't use monthly pass..
Can we get reimbursed for years ? :);
I don't have to spend $12 a day anymore lol about time
So who is going to make up the lost revenue? All these wages and fuel have to be paid for some how.
lost revenues will come in the first phase of implementation for it will change transit patterns of commuters leading to different routes fluctuating in amount of riders either needing to be increased, decreased, improved, rerouted, or redesign for better catchment. Practically just testing out new changes
@@TheRandCrews Thanks for the reply. From my experience governments aren’t very good at handling their money, but very good at handling ours.
I thought doug ford died
The ttc board looks like a bunch of DEI hires
Woohoo
Funny that people think they're saving money by having the government spend more money....there's no such thing as government....it's all taxpayer money
Provincial taxpayer money being used to subsidize a few cities worth of public transit.
I'm sure the people paying taxes everywhere that is not the south Ontario GTA-ish area are pleased as punch to fund the voter base that Ford is buying in advance of the next election.
Everyone knows that the government is funded by taxpayer money, it's not some big secret dude. Instead, people want their taxes to benefit them, which this does. It is much cheaper for everyone to have a good public transit system compared to buying a car, buying gas or charging, paying for parking that car, and not wasting time in traffic to save maybe a few hundred dollars at tax time. Do the math dude, you'll find that funding public transit is much cheaper for almost everyone.
This isn't going to get people to give up their cars....saving seven bucks a day isn't worth giving up your car....I pay enough in taxes, I don't want to subsidize your bus ride....
@@JJUnohu It won't make people give up their cars, but it'll likely reduce the number of pwople making trips using their car.
Also you say you don't want to fund other people's publuc transit yet want everyone else to fund your road and highway expansions? And your gas station infastructure? And your road repairs?
@@TheAircool1 This is a perfect response! I couldn't have said it better myself! Seriously, thank you for helping me fight misinformation and logical fallacies!
Thank you Ontario Conservatives.
1600$ a year wtf? 😂 so expensive. In Montreal we have a fixed fare system. That means monthly pass, unlimited use. I only pay $1116 a year. That is insane 😂 not to mention it 3.75$ for one ticket to ride any commuter train, bus, metro (subway) or light rail across the entire island of Montreal with a 2 hours transfer window.
I will keep driving my car until the crazy people crackheads are gone from TTC and the unreliable delays are resolved. Until that, I will take the burden of driving my car. Public transportation in Toronto is a joke.
Thank you government Canada. Mr Ford is powerful help peoples low income . Thank you All your help us. Save money living is going good life. Good hearh and can buy food more happy life. Thank you Mr Ford.
Driving is better, who wants to deal with people all day.. ugh 😩 💀
Yet TTC is still dirty, messy, smelly and full of weird people that puts everyone on their toes.
defund the cbc
This sounds good but if riders save up to $1600 a year who is going to cover that short fall? Even if it is only a few hundred saved each year there are millions of riders each year that means millions less in fares for GO, TTC etc. Every year they are short money and cry for more so if they have less fare who will cover this short fall? I am going to guess all of us taxpayers. Maybe the people riding the transit should stop taking money out of everyone's pocket and actually pay for the transit they use like the rest of us.
if thats what you want, maybe we should also start charging for parking anywhere in city, cancel all the fuel subsidies, and pay for every road expansion by toll instead of us taxpayers who pay for all of it even though we don't drive. the province and federal government already spends more per car owner to cover the shortfall than it does for transit users.
@@_framedlife
1- we do need to pay for parking everywhere in the city.
2- no such thing as fuel subsidizes. In fact it is the opposite. Half the cost of gas is taxes that is supposed to subsidize public transit (so going to my original point tax payers are already paying to support transit. Why should we pay more)
3- taxes pay for road expansion that public transit also uses. Transit on the other hand not only gets subsides to pay for its expansion it also gets subsides to continue to operate compared to a car owner that needs to pay for the cost and maintenance of their own transportation (insurance, gas, repairs etc) while on top of that funding the subsides to public transit (i.e. the transit user doesn't pay enough in fares to cover the cost of their transit use)
4- show what report states the govt pays more per car owner to cover short falls than it does for transit users? Everyone including transit users use roads (unless you are trying to argue your bus flies). And everyone pays taxes that covers the cost of those roads. Transit users however pay a fare that doesn't cover the cost to run that transit system. The taxpayers have to make up the difference and with this change to fares the taxpayers will need to pay more. Enough is enough. Let transit users start paying for the cost of their own transit like the rest of us do
Or are you trying to argue that you pay for a car owners insurance, repairs, gas, car payments etc?
Exactly....it's funny that people think they're saving money by having the government spend more.....there's no such thing as government money, it's all taxpayer money.....this is a political shell game...they will get that money by taxing you somewhere else
A large portion of transit users are people who can't afford their own vehicle. The subsidies are in place to benefit those that need it the most. You're essentially saying that poorer people should be taxed more for using a system that pollutes less and transports more people per vehicle.
Pacman you have to understand roads are subsidized by EVERYONE's income, even for those people who don't own a car. Your gas tax cannot pay paving the roads since the 80s. Look at how many billions of dollars are spent on building, expanding, and maintaining 400-series highways, and you realize funds allocated for public transit is a tear drop. Also, your car (mostly single occupant) takes more space per person, damages more roads, than a 30-person bus at capacity, by a long shot!
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