""""balanced"""" I know I'm not the only one, since Miq mentioned he'd never seen one either. So that makes at least two. And I know at least half a handful of other people as well who played BL 2 for fun and such, but still enough to at least do everything thrice and dip the toe into Digi Peak - and non ever seen the damn thing. I'd say it's very well placed. It's arguably the strongest launcher, but you'll have a very hard time to see it so gg.
@@xtxnct "play this specific character with this specific build, farm for about 2-4 hours depending on how much rnjesus loves you" - yeah no thanks buddy but you do see why this might be a bit problematic maybe? I wasn't trying to say it's unobtainable. But when I'm at the point where I can "easily" farm a 1,5% drop from a raid boss, I'm done playing the video game.
@JinFreeks its a raid boss. It's meant to be end game, meant to have a specific build to fight, meant to be hard, meant to be a difficult boss to farm items for. We're talking about bl2 here man hyperius has like 2 trillion health lmao.
Topneaa is disqualified. No exceptions allowed. The real #1, with not only red text,but BLOOD RED TEXT is the ERROR MESSAGE ERROR MESSAGE. Sure it says *THIS WEAPON SHOULD NEVER DROP.* , but that’s a special enough effect for me.
Fun fact about the Creature Slaughter dome- that DLC where you get the creamer- you can use Round 2 to farm for Vermivorous easily. An Ultimate Badass Varkid spawns at the end of the round, and has a change to evolve into Vermi. Creature Slaughter is a sleeper DLC, giving you access to 2 of the best launchers in the game and it as Captain Cabrerra, the guy's hilarious when you're in the slaughter dome!
Lmao, watching this a month late and hearing "please don't make me do pistols" right before seeing the recommended video be the pistol ranking was incredible
Ranking the norfleet low is a baller move. I agree completely. It's an overpowered gun to be sure, but it's so hard to get that you can't use it as a primary damage dealer until late game. The Badaboom is a gun you can lean on at every stage in the game really easily.
No it isn't. The drop rate of an item has nothing to do with its performance in game. Are the Twister and Interfacer bad because they are hard to obtain? How about the perfect Hide? It's a 1 in 90+ million drop but it's the best melee shield in the game.
@AzureTF The interfacer is NOT harder to obtain than the Norfleet. Also Triple-O may suck to spawn, but you're likely to get a twister in 5 runs. Also what an ass-pull bringing up the perfect hide as it's hardly the best melee shield solely due to the drop chance being so low. Item value doesn't only tie into stats but also how readily avaliable it is and if the item I'm farming has a 1 in 90 million chance to drop, I'd rather look elsewhere for something usable.
@@Drbrickbeard You are right though, the perfect Hide was an asspull. My gripe is with the guy who made the video, who put the Pyrophobia above The Hive. I don't need to say any more than that. Obtainability is very important and relevant when talking about items in this game, but making a tier list talking about the damage for 90% of the items and then putting the Norfleet down because "it's hard to get" is pants on head retarded. Yes the Norfleet is rare, but Miq literally said he's never even tried farming it, so that tells you everything you need to know.
snipers would be nice, because as it stands the only sniper i will go out of my way for is the pimpernel, and until i get it i just use whatever sniper i happen to find, so it would be nice to have a comprehensive ranking.
I actually did one UVHM with krieg built around grog nozzle with nukem, I loved it, my friend didn't he was blind like 80% of the time, world burn was fine but it was fire element.
@@miqueagul Okay but hear ME out... I think it's just it's own entirely unique weapon type that just happens to be listed as a launcher 'cause that's what it's most similar to It acts like if Jakobs launchers were put into the game. Extremely high base damage, fast reload, and insane rocket speed. It's best against long range/fast moving medium hp targets such as Buzzards and Badass Varkids, and it excels at doing that.
im literally new to the game but when i saw the vid is recently uploaded i was shcoked cuz any other vid is over 5years ago or so on anyways ty for the vid
Honestly, the biggest change I would make to the list based on my personal experience and preferences is moving the Pyrophobia way down and maybe the 12-pounder further up. I really, really want to like the Pyrophobia, it's a cool concept for a weapon. But in practice it just becomes so very awkward to use, and it doesn't justify it's use with decent damage. Somehow it just feels worse using it than even the Ahab, because at least with the Ahab if you actually try, you land the shot, and you're rewarded with a fairly high burst of damage. And you can pat yourself on the back and go 'yeah, I did good. I hit that harpoon.' But with the Pyrophobia... it feels like half the time, you don't hit nearly as much as you should with it because of awkward spacing, and when you do hit, it's like the incandescent, explosive equivalent of a shrug. Glad someone mentioned the Roaster, though. I feel like most people forget it's even in the game. And while it is overshadowed in every way by the super easy to get and incredibly powerful Badaboom... it's still a very good launcher.
Fun fact, my first ever world drop pearl was an unforgiven. I only just recently got into the actual endgames of the borderlands series and i kept the unforgiven in my stash because its the first pearl ive ever seen in borderlands. And cuz im not gonna fuckin use it lmao
Love the lists. For this one i think it is spot on other than the pyrophobia and the 12 pounder. I think pyrophobia should be number 12 and 12 pounder should be after the nukem probably. The pyrophobia would sooner kill you than 90% or the enemies in the game as you showed which should honestly even make it worse than the ones that just do low damage like the bunny lol. For the 12 pounder the damage is pretty nuts especially if you have explosive damage of some type. It is my favorite weapon in the game, but even i wouldnt put it much higher than the nukem but it is not worse that the pyrophobia or nukem for sure.
Cant have enough opinions in the community to keep the game fresh and make me try builds and characters I've never played before - a ranking of sniper rifles would be appreciated by me in the near future, if you may!
Tks to the Captain Lil DLC; I don't have to farm for Ahab to do the Pimper glitch. As World Burn is way better in term of damage and mag size, and Creamer is still a solid choice for healing.
I would say your list was good besides the hive. That thing with the drunk effect, or bee sheild, or 600 anarchy stacks is ridiculous (hint you can insta kill any boss if you do all 3)
Honestly if i were to make a top list i would consider many things like what the gun represents such as how special it is to get a Norfleet or how much fun i have with or how i can build around it, my list would probably be like: Norfleet or a Topneaa Badaboom Bonus Launcher (Tediore E-Tech) Hive 12 Pounder Mongol Nukem Those are the ones i usually love having as a option or straight up main component of my builds...
Was quite curious for the reasoning behind putting Tunguska at no. 7... turns out the reason is solid, who doesn't like causing suffering to others for their own amusement, in addtion to offing themselves? Seems like a win-win situation
The only reason why i find it is fair to have the norfleet so hard to get is because its so good, also the topnea is really easy to farm in the haderax arena if you have a toothpick and retainer, there is a hidden chest that is gauranteed to be e tech launchers, dont even need to kill haderax
agree with the top 3 and the lowest placments for sure, though the middle would probably be a bit murkier, since i have not expresly tried using most of these at high engame levels or at the same level for that matter so my personal experiance is not enough to place them all, still from waht i've seen and played over the years and years of being in the community the list looks to be about right.
Call me a Topnea...
Cus I Nea some top 😤
FreakyGasmask real??
Can he beat Borderlands 2 if he Nea some Top?
@@PeppermintFrenoh he real alright
*real freaky*
:(
Put the freaky on em
So.... Pistiols when ?
Gub is the number one
1. Gub
2. Unkempt Harold
3. Grognozzle
4. Fibber
@@Ht9ehtoomLady fist also
@@Ht9ehtoomgub is good but law is definitely better due to the order pairing and how it doesn’t need to be against a metal enemy
@@snoozy_doozy the joke is that the gub is pretty bad for how hard it is to get. The law is strong for melee builds, but the rapier is better.
A pistol ranking list would be nice, can't wait to see him
"Mom can i have a norfleet?"
"we have a norfleet at home"
Norfleet at home: *sal spamming topnea*
that random unforgiven drop tho lmao
fr
like yeah, just casually drop a cyan weapon
Hope this becomes a series, this video alone spared me the time needes to read 18 wiki entries
And the wiki is fucking terrible
@@hallowfiended agreed
@@kevinvieira2834especially for lore
The Norfleet being difficult to get is the only thing that makes it balanced. Best second wind weapon in the entire game.
""""balanced""""
I know I'm not the only one, since Miq mentioned he'd never seen one either. So that makes at least two. And I know at least half a handful of other people as well who played BL 2 for fun and such, but still enough to at least do everything thrice and dip the toe into Digi Peak - and non ever seen the damn thing.
I'd say it's very well placed. It's arguably the strongest launcher, but you'll have a very hard time to see it so gg.
Farm hyperius with sal and overkill ez norfleets lol@@JinFreeks
@@xtxnct You're saying "play salvador" to get a gun, which is antithetical to the very concept of the game
@@xtxnct "play this specific character with this specific build, farm for about 2-4 hours depending on how much rnjesus loves you" - yeah no thanks buddy but you do see why this might be a bit problematic maybe?
I wasn't trying to say it's unobtainable. But when I'm at the point where I can "easily" farm a 1,5% drop from a raid boss, I'm done playing the video game.
@JinFreeks its a raid boss. It's meant to be end game, meant to have a specific build to fight, meant to be hard, meant to be a difficult boss to farm items for. We're talking about bl2 here man hyperius has like 2 trillion health lmao.
We got the badaboom, give a grenade mod called the badabing. Then just give us an absorb shield called the "forget about it"
Relic called *"IM WALKIN' 'ERE!"*
12:57 I can totally tell what's going on... yup, absolutely able to see
Uh-huh? That’s good. So uhhhhh could you tell me? Cause my eyesight ain’t so great
@@AndrewH1994 i'm pretty sure he's playing heavely modded minesweeper, but I've been wrong in the past
2:27 Bro got stinkyed 😔
YES
Little tip: You can farm topneaas really easily in the lilith DLC by farming the chest in the haderax lair
Topneaa is disqualified. No exceptions allowed. The real #1, with not only red text,but BLOOD RED TEXT is the ERROR MESSAGE ERROR MESSAGE. Sure it says *THIS WEAPON SHOULD NEVER DROP.* , but that’s a special enough effect for me.
A tier list of all the # 1 weapons from each category before you’ve done every category would be funny af
close enough, welcome back VinylicPuma
I'll take it
Pistols next :)
The goat is BACKKKKKK LET'S GOOOOOO
You think the Tunguska is bad because it downs you. I think the Tunguska is bad because it doesnt do it more often. We are not the same.
I think it's good because it downs your friends :)
Fun fact about the Creature Slaughter dome- that DLC where you get the creamer- you can use Round 2 to farm for Vermivorous easily. An Ultimate Badass Varkid spawns at the end of the round, and has a change to evolve into Vermi.
Creature Slaughter is a sleeper DLC, giving you access to 2 of the best launchers in the game and it as Captain Cabrerra, the guy's hilarious when you're in the slaughter dome!
Pistols would be dope
We definitely need more of these!
Nice list. I’m glad that you included the topnea, it’s too good to leave out
I was about to pull out my pitchforks over my Norfleet that I farmed myself, but then I realized you're totally right about the Topneaa being better
I would love more videos like this man
I love this new genre of content
Lmao, watching this a month late and hearing "please don't make me do pistols" right before seeing the recommended video be the pistol ranking was incredible
I would be interested to see how other E-tech/standard purple rarity Launchers would effect the rating of things, it'd be neat to see those in here
9:13 I think the game is telling you which weapon type is next
"i dont remember" was my favorite book to man
I really haven't heard much about the Topneaa until recently, it was always "Norfleet for damage and Badaboom for speedrunning" in my mind.
other then jolts hands down one of my top borderlands creators!
Ranking the norfleet low is a baller move. I agree completely. It's an overpowered gun to be sure, but it's so hard to get that you can't use it as a primary damage dealer until late game. The Badaboom is a gun you can lean on at every stage in the game really easily.
No it isn't. The drop rate of an item has nothing to do with its performance in game. Are the Twister and Interfacer bad because they are hard to obtain? How about the perfect Hide? It's a 1 in 90+ million drop but it's the best melee shield in the game.
@AzureTF The interfacer is NOT harder to obtain than the Norfleet. Also Triple-O may suck to spawn, but you're likely to get a twister in 5 runs. Also what an ass-pull bringing up the perfect hide as it's hardly the best melee shield solely due to the drop chance being so low. Item value doesn't only tie into stats but also how readily avaliable it is and if the item I'm farming has a 1 in 90 million chance to drop, I'd rather look elsewhere for something usable.
@@Drbrickbeard its like you didn't even read my comment. I didn't say the Interfacer was harder to obtain than the norfleet. Read it again.
@@AzureTF Oh damn yeah that's my bad.
@@Drbrickbeard You are right though, the perfect Hide was an asspull. My gripe is with the guy who made the video, who put the Pyrophobia above The Hive. I don't need to say any more than that.
Obtainability is very important and relevant when talking about items in this game, but making a tier list talking about the damage for 90% of the items and then putting the Norfleet down because "it's hard to get" is pants on head retarded. Yes the Norfleet is rare, but Miq literally said he's never even tried farming it, so that tells you everything you need to know.
When you get a chance give the pre sequel some love ❤️ great video !
I liked this
You should continue making these
snipers would be nice, because as it stands the only sniper i will go out of my way for is the pimpernel, and until i get it i just use whatever sniper i happen to find, so it would be nice to have a comprehensive ranking.
goated list, glad you didn't die to the murdercane
I second the shotgun ranking, in the name of Rick May.
I actually did one UVHM with krieg built around grog nozzle with nukem, I loved it, my friend didn't he was blind like 80% of the time, world burn was fine but it was fire element.
Yo this was great can't wait for the next one! Maybe pistols 🤔
Listing the tunguska and especially the pyrophobia above the hive is just CRAZY
I will not tolerate the 12 Pounder slander
Ok but hear me out... it's not good
@@miqueagul Okay but hear ME out... I think it's just it's own entirely unique weapon type that just happens to be listed as a launcher 'cause that's what it's most similar to
It acts like if Jakobs launchers were put into the game. Extremely high base damage, fast reload, and insane rocket speed. It's best against long range/fast moving medium hp targets such as Buzzards and Badass Varkids, and it excels at doing that.
@@wolf-rayet25 yeah it's not that bad
It's basically a fastball that consumes rocket ammo instead of grenades and i love it for it.
im literally new to the game but when i saw the vid is recently uploaded i was shcoked
cuz any other vid is over 5years ago or so on anyways ty for the vid
love ur content miq♥
Funny how Salvador can make any rocket launcher broken (and any other gun in the game)
Great video! Perhaps, for the next one, you could rank the E-tech types/uniques?
i had forgotten that you said their was an exception and after you revealed #3 my brain got confused on what was left besides #2
Hell yeah Creamer respect finally!
Also perfect parted slag E tech tediore launcher on kreig deserves to be somewhere on this list
I just played don't stop rolling, its so fun, and the song goes hard
Honestly, the biggest change I would make to the list based on my personal experience and preferences is moving the Pyrophobia way down and maybe the 12-pounder further up. I really, really want to like the Pyrophobia, it's a cool concept for a weapon. But in practice it just becomes so very awkward to use, and it doesn't justify it's use with decent damage. Somehow it just feels worse using it than even the Ahab, because at least with the Ahab if you actually try, you land the shot, and you're rewarded with a fairly high burst of damage. And you can pat yourself on the back and go 'yeah, I did good. I hit that harpoon.' But with the Pyrophobia... it feels like half the time, you don't hit nearly as much as you should with it because of awkward spacing, and when you do hit, it's like the incandescent, explosive equivalent of a shrug.
Glad someone mentioned the Roaster, though. I feel like most people forget it's even in the game. And while it is overshadowed in every way by the super easy to get and incredibly powerful Badaboom... it's still a very good launcher.
Yeah pyrophobia definitely should have been lower. I just does so much damage I was blinded by them big numbers
But it's funny oneshotting terra with the pyro as gaige.
everything was just wrong enough for me to be obliged to call for pistols
Everything was completely right
definitely do more of these
Thanks for giving me the info now I know what to waste my time on and not the garbage I was going to waste my time on
12:56 that put the biggest shit-eating grin on my face.
It’s crazy seeing you move in ffyl after me playboy borderlands 1 a bunch lol. I do miss that.
I'd be down to watch another one of these 🙂
Pistol legendaries tend to be what I most often end up with, so I'd love to see a video ranking them >:)
I think a pistols ranking would be interesting
Also snipers and shields seems quick to make
I got my first norfleet ever from vermi in solo. I was so unbelievably shocked that I got it
I like the ranking because it has numbers and bright colours
Okay that Salvador bit at the end was pretty insane, but also doesn't the "secret" Haderax chest always contain a launcher?
It does. It's the easiest way to get one
Would love to see more, mostly to hear ya trash the low ranked weps
Fun fact, my first ever world drop pearl was an unforgiven. I only just recently got into the actual endgames of the borderlands series and i kept the unforgiven in my stash because its the first pearl ive ever seen in borderlands. And cuz im not gonna fuckin use it lmao
If you were being character specific I might argue Mongol higher for the list because of krieg but nah this list is solid, also good to see you miq!
pistols ranking would probably be the best follow up
Well actually you can get the topnea pretty easily from the secret chest in the haderax arena 🤓☝️
I fully agree with your top 3. I'd rather have a good Topneaa than a good Norfleet.
I accept this ranking list. I'd recommend a shotgun list next.
I still remember my first Badaboom, got it the very first time I killed King Mong, non-elemental but good fucking god it was powerful.
That random pearl from a loader is crazy
I personally love the 12 pounder it’s just fun to use
Like it, do it again, pistols.
Love the lists. For this one i think it is spot on other than the pyrophobia and the 12 pounder. I think pyrophobia should be number 12 and 12 pounder should be after the nukem probably. The pyrophobia would sooner kill you than 90% or the enemies in the game as you showed which should honestly even make it worse than the ones that just do low damage like the bunny lol. For the 12 pounder the damage is pretty nuts especially if you have explosive damage of some type. It is my favorite weapon in the game, but even i wouldnt put it much higher than the nukem but it is not worse that the pyrophobia or nukem for sure.
I LOVE my Norfleet!!!
in my 12 years of playing this game, I don't think I've ever touched a Norfleet once
I got an accidental vermi spawn that dropped a shock one on a gaige playthrough. Made early uvhm a breeze.
Cant have enough opinions in the community to keep the game fresh and make me try builds and characters I've never played before - a ranking of sniper rifles would be appreciated by me in the near future, if you may!
If we get to the pistols and krieg’s axe isn’t the best I’m rioting
The Hive does friendly fire to, also anarchy, drunk stacks and bee shield yeah you can make it work a bit better
Didn't know all that. I probably should have put it above the pyrophobia
Getting that Unforgiven drop just means you gotta do pistols next.
Tks to the Captain Lil DLC; I don't have to farm for Ahab to do the Pimper glitch. As World Burn is way better in term of damage and mag size, and Creamer is still a solid choice for healing.
I would say your list was good besides the hive. That thing with the drunk effect, or bee sheild, or 600 anarchy stacks is ridiculous (hint you can insta kill any boss if you do all 3)
Alright, we will wait for pistols list
Has you done SMGs?
Not yet. Shotguns are next
Honestly if i were to make a top list i would consider many things like what the gun represents such as how special it is to get a Norfleet or how much fun i have with or how i can build around it, my list would probably be like:
Norfleet or a Topneaa
Badaboom
Bonus Launcher (Tediore E-Tech)
Hive
12 Pounder
Mongol
Nukem
Those are the ones i usually love having as a option or straight up main component of my builds...
That is fair, and the item being iconic is definitely something I'll take into account
Was quite curious for the reasoning behind putting Tunguska at no. 7... turns out the reason is solid, who doesn't like causing suffering to others for their own amusement, in addtion to offing themselves? Seems like a win-win situation
Shotguns next for sure
Defo do shields next
The only time I got norfleet was when a hacker entered my lobby and droped a LOT of pears and legendaries, I don't know why he did that
Perfect list❤
Unforgiven? More like Unforgivable!
Do class mods! Great video, I liked it
Yeah, snipers sounds good!
but can launchers rank borderlands 2
can borderlands 2 rank every miq in launchers?
ARs would be neat.
And I am obligated to put a vote towards pistols as well.
The only reason why i find it is fair to have the norfleet so hard to get is because its so good, also the topnea is really easy to farm in the haderax arena if you have a toothpick and retainer, there is a hidden chest that is gauranteed to be e tech launchers, dont even need to kill haderax
Bro just got a world drop unforgiven 💀
I would like to see your opinion on the Shotguns of Borderlands 2! This would be fun for me at least lol
I would love to see a pistol ranking tbh
12:56 OH MY FUCKING SEIZURE WARNING CHRIST
The Norfleet is 3rd because the Topneaa exists. Snowman chest or that one chest that only gives launchers is great for farming that thing.
agree with the top 3 and the lowest placments for sure, though the middle would probably be a bit murkier, since i have not expresly tried using most of these at high engame levels or at the same level for that matter so my personal experiance is not enough to place them all, still from waht i've seen and played over the years and years of being in the community the list looks to be about right.
Dangit I thought this was an old video and I was gonna go watch the other catagories... SMG's next!
Pistols would be cool to see, also try making a tier list of F, D, C, B, A, and S because it would be faster for you i guess?