How to intercept an ILS in the PMDG DC-6 - Microsoft Flight Simulator
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มิ.ย. 2024
- Capturing an ILS in the PMDG DC-6 can be a little unintuitive, if you're used to flying ILS approaches in other aircraft. Today I'll be running through how to capture an ILS in the PMDG DC-6 so that you can consistently fly them every time.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:47 Approach Overview/Chart
03:22 Flight deck setup
09:20 Intercepting the ILS & landing
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Very helpful video as I really appreciate the time you have taken to produce this and offer the tips required to capture the ILS. Many thanks once again and keep up the excellent work!!
Pleasure! And thank you for taking the time to comment!
Fantastic!!! Many thanks for the GNS430 workaround. It's been driving me crazy.
Glad it helped! Hopefully this is only a temporary thing but can get you on your way in IMC for now!
Thank you, I've been looking for answer to this problem everywhere without success.
Glad to help!
Nicely done. Thx for the help
Pleasure! Glad it helped! Thanks for the feedback. :)
great video new sub!
Thanks for the kind words and welcome! 🙏
Good news ! It worked just fine :) Course was setup by FS2020 in such a way, that intercepting lozalizer was at 90º, way too sharp, DC6 overshot and turning back. Next time I'll turn to 30-45º so it's more gentle. I caught the glidescope as well :) Just more practice, it's all very fast..many commands in short period of time. Thanks for helping, much appreciated. Ronnie
Yes it can be a bit of a handful! Highly recommend using some custom cameras to allow you to switch between different views in quick succession! Glad it worked for you :)
I dug through the official handbook and nada... thanks for this!
Pleasure! There's a note about it in the introduction but it's very brief and I didn't find it that clear initially, hence why I made this!
Congratulations for your great video! Just wanted to know one thing before my next flight: when in gyro mode, can the airplane's heading be controlled using the HDG dial knob? or this is only possible by using the Sperry A-12 Autopilot Control switch (Gyropilot).
Thank you so much! In gyro mode you can only adjust the airplanes heading using the large roll knob on top of the gyropilot. Appreciate the comment thanks 😊
I'm definitely going to try this method the next time I fly the DC-6. Pretty ridiculous though that they haven't fixed this issue, even after several months.
Awesome, let me know how you get on!
@@BobbyFuzzy It's been a few mpnths now, is it fixed now?
Unfortunately not!
Fixed now?
Hello! Nice video. Thanks for this. I didn't know that the DC 6 could do ILS approaches. It makes me not to buy the 737 again, the DC 6 is slow but is lots of fun.
Thank you dude! The DC6 is a tonne of fun I agree!
Finally an awesome tutorial about ILS and PMDG DC-6 ! I've had various luck, with you help, I'll be a master in this subject. Just a question or two. Do you need to catch the localizer in an angle, say 45 degrees ? I've been flying straight in, same course, from far away. Maybe wrong tactics.2nd question, when should the approach light come on ? Read your post in PMDG forum,thought..Thank God, finally an answer ! Cheers, Ronnie
Thank you! I hope it is helpful for you. Not necessarily a smaller intercept than that would be fine and you might even get away with something bigger. I suppose flying straight in it maybe more difficult to see if the capture actually happened but it should still work. Essentially all you’re doing is giving the system a little nudge so that it starts tracking the needles. The main thing is just to make sure you’re ready for it and not distracted by anything else! Hopefully it won’t always be this way.
Approach lights I assume you mean landing lights? I can’t remember the figure off the top of my head but they come on below around 140kts. If you check the checklist in the manual it will give you the exact figure.
Any more questions feel free to drop them in here!
Thanks, Rob
@@BobbyFuzzy Help was just perfect, exactly what I had been looking/hoping for. Next to the selection knob for the mode, there’s a blue light. I’m sure it will light up when there’s a signal. Must check again…just logged off my computer. I was thinking…use slew mode, place plane you like, check out more carefully what’s going on. All good ! Happy flying :)
@@yams900 The blue light will usually always be on when you're using the gyropilot with the GPS. I usually look at the DME window along with the CDI to verify when I am in range of the ILS. But yes by all means slew yourself over the practice! Thank you and you too!
Amazing! I managed to do it once but not again this just picks up where I am mistaken! What scenery are you using?
Thank you Brad! It can still be a bit funky but this is the best method I've found, make sure the needles are moving before you double tap. I was using Digital Design's Salzburg for this video. It's great but a bit of a performance killer!
Thanks for the vid, can this also work with the radios only? Thanks
Absolutely!
Great video!! :) How do you switch the GPS to a map view? Sorry if its a dumb question
Thanks Shayne! Rotate the right hand inner knob once clockwise, if my memory serves me correctly!
Really helpful video but how do you initiate a VLOC if only using the Bendix radios and not the Garmin?
This video was more to show the strange workaround we have to do with the Garmin. With the Bendix radios it’s like any other aircraft. Just make sure you have dialled in the ILS on NAV1, pay attention to your CDI and as you’re coming on to the localiser use localiser on the gyropilot and then approach for the glideslope. It’s a similar process but works far more reliably.
THABK YOU! I’ve been wondering why the Gyropilot hasn’t been working for ILS
Pleasure! Hope it continues to help until we see a proper fix by Asobo.
Was wondering your 430 should you set the activate it for the selceted Rwy ? Or had it setup for that rwy 15 and when the plane turn on the ILS go to 430 and activate it for the rwy ?
If you’re using the default 430 you shouldn’t need to activate approach mode, it does it automatically.
Thanks for the great tutorial. Unfortunately for me I still haven't managed to successfully do an ILS approach after following your instructions. Once the needle starts moving I switch it to Localizer Mode and tap the CDI button twice, however instead of the aircraft turning towards the localizer it just starts doing circles!! I've updated the GNS 430 and checked the flight plan which is loaded correctly with the ILS approach. And yes, I activated the approach phase in it. Not sure what else I can do :(
Hmmm! I've not flown the DC6 in a good while so not totally aware if there are any new bugs... That being said the only thing I can think of is your intercept angle? Is it steep? It can be a bit temperamental about these things! Does it work with the Bendix radios?
@@BobbyFuzzy I have since got it to work a couple of times but it’s very temperamental. Angle has to be perfect and it struggles with any crosswind. I just manually land it now. It’s super stable once setup on the approach
Sounds about right! Remember this is 50's tech
DC6 and A310 for me are the best planes so far in MSF
They are fantastic!
Does the altitude hold have to be off on the gyro to capture?
No it should capture with altitude control on.
Bonjour comment mettre les indications des différents boutons de l'avion merci beaucoup
Hi, which indications do you refer to? Sorry not a French speaker and translation probably not great!
One more question, it’s related to this tutorial, kind of :) Are there any keyboard shortcuts for operating the Gyro ? It would be so much quicker, I could program my iPad running Metagrid. I’d like to shortcuts for, Giro Pilot/Localizer/Approach modes + Altitude hold on/off, Auto Pilot on/off + the lever towards the floor. Any help appreciated. Ronnie
Auto pilot on off you can use the normal binds in MSFS (I used autopilot master toggle). Couple this with the realistic auto pilot dis/engage in the tablet to your taste. Other than that I don’t think so. There’s a discussion on the PMDG forums about that at the moment so maybe some better suggestions there. You might be able to use LVARs if you use AxisAndOhs or something similar though I’ve not tried that yet.
@@BobbyFuzzy Cool, I’m heaps better flying ILS now. Hey, if you’ve got time…could you please make tutorial of planning and flying route without GPS. Then switch off that Garmin and fly just old fashioned :)
Hey Ronnie, I actually have done a couple of streams recently where I did just that. If you look up my streams ‘into the nordics’ and ‘the flying bulls’ (recordings are here on TH-cam) I go through all my flight planning right from the start! But thanks for the video idea I may do just that in the future.
@@BobbyFuzzy Excellent mate ! I’ll have a look. I’d like do old fashioned way, find some old timetables and fly like they did in the 50’ties or even earlier
@@yams900 Enjoy! I'm not a total expert at it and it's difficult esp. in Europe due to the prevalence of RNAV routing but it's great fun nevertheless!
I found this absolute goldmine the other week, sounds like exactly what you're looking for! - www.timetableimages.com/
How do you guys adjust your trim I have it set to an axis and sensitivity right down but it's still way to sensitive?
I am using a hat switch on my joystick so it's basically a button press. They upped the sensitivity of the trim since the latest MSFS update also which probably plays a part. I'd recommend checking out AxisAndOhs (justflight.com) for more customisation.
@@BobbyFuzzy I thought they had changed something no matter what I fly it just goes crazy, I've done what you did set a hat switch for up down and a button to centre it. :)
Hope it helps! I imagine it will change again in a future update to the sim.
@@BobbyFuzzy everytime it updates it break's lol
Still quite buggy for me, I fly VOR to VOR exclusively, and VOR navigation often fails mid flight if I flew long haul, and to the same effect, ILS wouldn't engage at all. I tried your method, but still couldn't make them work again... Very annoying. PDMG doesn't seems to be very interested in replying my report as well, several people have the same issue as well.
Are you flying VOR’s using the GPS or Bendix radios? Although I haven’t used the DC6 since SU5, always works flawlessly for me with the Bendix, ILS and all.
Problem is if you’re using the GPS, that’s more of an Asobo issue. There’s not much PMDG can do. I’d recommend trying the GNS530 mod though too if you haven’t already.
One year later, still the Gyropilot mode on an ILS approach is still erratic. Sometimes it will not follow either the GPS track or the glideslope when on the localizer. This will probably never be fixed.
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Yeah, it's strange, apparently it was a sim issue when this plane was launched... That being said the last time I flew it on an ILS which was the first in a long time it worked OK.
I think it is a very difficult procedure!
Yes it definitely shouldn't be this difficult. It's not how you would do this in the real aircraft... Waiting on Asobo to fix this!
I still can't get it to work consistently...
Assuming everything else is tuned and identified correctly - make sure the needles are moving before you double tap the button. It can still be a bit dodgy though and I would always be prepared to take over manually.
pretty sure its still like this today
It's been a while since I flew this but sadly I think you're right!
@@BobbyFuzzy sucks since everything else about it is so good