OMG!! I havent seen those in years!! they were so cool. wasnt one of the ork ones a big rock with rockets engines and gun sticking out everywhere. your grots are awesome !! keep up the great videos.
@@keithgroce9983 I've had the same desire to build a 28mm Ork "AirrKraft Karry-arrrgh" display made in the shape of a large metal "Zeppelin" that stows and launches skwandronz of Ork planes, DeffKoptas, ChinOrk Warkoptas, along with units of Stormboyz, and Komandos repelling from the bottom. A Stompa or scratch built Garguant as a conning tower and the whole thing bristling with huge Mek Gunz would make it look the part with Orky "know whatz" technology to keep it aloft, hovering over a battlefield. In real like, I'd likely need a bus, van, or 3 row SUV to transport it to conventions and a lifetime to assemble and paint it though!
Man o war looked brilliant, I remember making a board for bfg thats as far as I got, there's a guy that has the coolest iron hands Fleet I'm sure you've seen it, with the nametags on the bases and even a few teenie weenie ziphons and thunderhawks
@@joelmoon9745 Mordheim is also amazing! Unfortunately, I think Cursed City was the spiritual successor, and that box was such a disaster that we may never get a Mordheim again.
@@DaRedWunzGoFasta very true which is a shame I spent a good while collecting the minis and getting proxies. Up until recently my kiddos (grown adults lol) have had a blast playing. I even had one of my possessed voted to specialty hireling status due to being awesome an unstoppable. Of course that was after I retired the warband.
SpeedFreeks is a specialty boxed boardgame unto itself. Of course the models work for Orks in 40K. Aeronautical Imperialis is another specialty stand alone boardgame as well and the Ork fliers faction was amazing. 40K Apocalypse is still an amazing game that played faster/simpler 40K games at 2000 pts or more (even 1000 to 1500 point games worked within it, too).
I would argue that Speed Freeks doesn't work for orks in 40K because the little buggies are scaled so small compared to the standard trukk or deffkilla wartrike that their crews look like grots. I mean the deff dread hangs way over it's base in practically every direction, but the buggies all look like dishes from an expensive French restaurant in that they more dish than meal. And of course you are forgetting the best game of (say it with me kids) _ALL TIME!_ GORKAMORKA!! For Gork's (or possibly Mork's) sake, how could this channel forget Gorkamorka!?
@@B__C__ GorkaMorka is to this day an amazing game, but it suffered from the same issue of puny looking Orks driving puny looking vehicles, too. Even the current, staple, plastic GW Trukk model is way out of proportion to hold 12 Ork Boyz, especially with the base size upgrade. However, it's on par with Space Marine vehicles (cough, Rhino) that must use the same technology as Doctor Who's Tardis to fit a transported SM unit inside. The original Ork metal Warbuggy, Wartrakk, Warbikers, Nobz Bikes (with an Ork Driver and Nob), Cyboars Riders, Scorcha, and Deff Dread models were all far smaller in size than the current SpeedFreeks Buggies/Warbikes. The first plastic counterparts weren't much larger. Even the original plastic Battle Wagon wasn't much larger in scale to Ork Boyz on foot. As an avid Ork player and collector, I still love them all though.
@GeneJordan bingo! The Ork Trukk that was out during Gorkamorka could barely hold a single 25mm base in back. The drivers are scales smaller than current grots! But yes, I loved Gorkamorka and it is still viable today with modern models.
@@GeneJordan Oh, _I_ can fit 12 ork boyz (and crew) on a "modern" trukk. Orks don't have 'ape-hanger' arms for nuthin'. 😉 The current trukk and the wartrike are the ork-scale gold-standard for me. Also, I wasn't really trying to argue that scale was any more of a concern for Gorkamorka, whose saving graces were of course that you could build your own trukks out of whatever, and you could only ever carry exactly what the model could carry (tiny bases included). You would think though that after all of the time between Gorkamorka, the creation of the "newer" trukk model and the Speed Freeks buggies that GW R&D might have invested in a 50-cent plastic school ruler with inches and centimeters on it. With all this scale stuff in mind I think I'll pull out my two Epic-scale (3cm-wide) Stompas to use in my 10th Edition game this weekend. _"WHAT!?_ They're GW models, it says so on the bottom. Now this one is going to do a strike attack. The _WAAAGH's!_ over so that's only six, 3+, Strength 24 attacks, for 10 damage a pop. Ready?" "Oh, I should probably figure out how many of the 22 orks made it out of the one you blew up first." 😜
How different were the rules compared to the even older "Space Fleet" game from GW? I remember liking how you had direct and broadside attacks and your moves were done simultaneously.
@TomasQuinones great question! I'm not sure, as I never played Space Fleet, but they were quite a bit more in depth than all of the other fleet games I've played - Star Wars Starship Battles, Axis & Allies War at Sea, and X-Wing Armada. I loved the facings and movement rules! The torpedos/fighters were a bit clunky. It's been 15 years since I've played a game though
Don't forget Man O' War and Gorkamunda. Battle fleet Gothic was ok. It lasted 6 months for original sales. The model size compared to ruleset was not that functional.
@@DaRedWunzGoFasta The models are excellent. I still have mine. I regret I didn't buy Orks back then. It was one of two games that I didn't start with Orks.
I remember having a 4x4 green board and black board. Had 8 imperial cruisers, 1 battleship, and 12 frigates. Really cool game, and wish they would come back out with the end of Star Wars armada
@@Naddabeht I had the same thing but tan (for desert) and black! Played Battlefleet and Star Wars Spaceship Battles (the OG SW fleet game) on that black side.
I bet all GW specialist or spinoff games have a hard time getting traction when they have to compete with a juggernaut like 40k. But it’s always cool when a company can tries something new and different. However I personally think GW should stick to their cash cows and when you’re in for something different check out indie or smaller companies. That’s what I’m doing lately.
@@DaRedWunzGoFasta The main giveaway is that when smaller companies or a similar indie game is released it will get more support from the developer. And if you support them with your wallet it will be sustainable for them as well. As an example, I back the kickstarter of TTCombat’s miniature game Half Tilt. It’s similar to the classic white dwarf game Full Tilt but played with halflings. GW would never resurrect such a niche and unknown game, but a spiritual successor is the way to go if you ask me. And there are countless others.
@@CronosVids that sounds amazing! I would love for GW to sell some of these IPs to Indy developers. Could you imagine Mordheim or BFG in the hands of someone else?!?
@@DaRedWunzGoFasta That would be amazing, but they’re so protective of their IPs that they would never trust another with them. Maybe they should trust others with making rules, while they focus all their efforts on making models and keeping product in stock. Here’s to wishful thinking.
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OMG!! I havent seen those in years!! they were so cool. wasnt one of the ork ones a big rock with rockets engines and gun sticking out everywhere. your grots are awesome !! keep up the great videos.
@calvinryder3195 yes! The Ork Rokk!
I’ve always had a secret desire to build a 28 mm scale ork lander . Went as far as to get the epic scale ork lander
@keithgroce9983 that would be so cool!!!
Also do some hobby hang outs I’m on vacation for the next 2 weeks and starting to climb the walls
@keithgroce9983 I'll do my best!
@@keithgroce9983 I've had the same desire to build a 28mm Ork "AirrKraft Karry-arrrgh" display made in the shape of a large metal "Zeppelin" that stows and launches skwandronz of Ork planes, DeffKoptas, ChinOrk Warkoptas, along with units of Stormboyz, and Komandos repelling from the bottom.
A Stompa or scratch built Garguant as a conning tower and the whole thing bristling with huge Mek Gunz would make it look the part with Orky "know whatz" technology to keep it aloft, hovering over a battlefield.
In real like, I'd likely need a bus, van, or 3 row SUV to transport it to conventions and a lifetime to assemble and paint it though!
As a budding Ork 40k here, I'm always interested about the Waaagh in other game systems!!! Thanks Big Mek
@@nsoncrantful oooh, that would be a fun video! All the different games you can collect your favorite faction in!
The grandad of SW armada, lol
Bet there’s some stl for 3D printing out there
Lots, and some really really good ones at that
Man o war looked brilliant, I remember making a board for bfg thats as far as I got, there's a guy that has the coolest iron hands Fleet I'm sure you've seen it, with the nametags on the bases and even a few teenie weenie ziphons and thunderhawks
See I always thought mordheim was the one game to rule them all......lol
@@joelmoon9745 Mordheim is also amazing! Unfortunately, I think Cursed City was the spiritual successor, and that box was such a disaster that we may never get a Mordheim again.
@@DaRedWunzGoFasta very true which is a shame I spent a good while collecting the minis and getting proxies. Up until recently my kiddos (grown adults lol) have had a blast playing. I even had one of my possessed voted to specialty hireling status due to being awesome an unstoppable. Of course that was after I retired the warband.
Mordheim and BFG are equally GWs finest games.
@@kenupton4084 1000%
SpeedFreeks is a specialty boxed boardgame unto itself.
Of course the models work for Orks in 40K.
Aeronautical Imperialis is another specialty stand alone boardgame as well and the Ork fliers faction was amazing.
40K Apocalypse is still an amazing game that played faster/simpler 40K games at 2000 pts or more (even 1000 to 1500 point games worked within it, too).
@@GeneJordan all fantastic games and models! I REALLY hope that GW puts the Aeronautica sculpturs on to new BFG...
I would argue that Speed Freeks doesn't work for orks in 40K because the little buggies are scaled so small compared to the standard trukk or deffkilla wartrike that their crews look like grots. I mean the deff dread hangs way over it's base in practically every direction, but the buggies all look like dishes from an expensive French restaurant in that they more dish than meal.
And of course you are forgetting the best game of (say it with me kids) _ALL TIME!_ GORKAMORKA!! For Gork's (or possibly Mork's) sake, how could this channel forget Gorkamorka!?
@@B__C__ GorkaMorka is to this day an amazing game, but it suffered from the same issue of puny looking Orks driving puny looking vehicles, too.
Even the current, staple, plastic GW Trukk model is way out of proportion to hold 12 Ork Boyz, especially with the base size upgrade.
However, it's on par with Space Marine vehicles (cough, Rhino) that must use the same technology as Doctor Who's Tardis to fit a transported SM unit inside.
The original Ork metal Warbuggy, Wartrakk, Warbikers, Nobz Bikes (with an Ork Driver and Nob), Cyboars Riders, Scorcha, and Deff Dread models were all far smaller in size than the current SpeedFreeks Buggies/Warbikes. The first plastic counterparts weren't much larger. Even the original plastic Battle Wagon wasn't much larger in scale to Ork Boyz on foot.
As an avid Ork player and collector, I still love them all though.
@GeneJordan bingo! The Ork Trukk that was out during Gorkamorka could barely hold a single 25mm base in back. The drivers are scales smaller than current grots! But yes, I loved Gorkamorka and it is still viable today with modern models.
@@GeneJordan Oh, _I_ can fit 12 ork boyz (and crew) on a "modern" trukk. Orks don't have 'ape-hanger' arms for nuthin'. 😉
The current trukk and the wartrike are the ork-scale gold-standard for me.
Also, I wasn't really trying to argue that scale was any more of a concern for Gorkamorka, whose saving graces were of course that you could build your own trukks out of whatever, and you could only ever carry exactly what the model could carry (tiny bases included). You would think though that after all of the time between Gorkamorka, the creation of the "newer" trukk model and the Speed Freeks buggies that GW R&D might have invested in a 50-cent plastic school ruler with inches and centimeters on it.
With all this scale stuff in mind I think I'll pull out my two Epic-scale (3cm-wide) Stompas to use in my 10th Edition game this weekend.
_"WHAT!?_ They're GW models, it says so on the bottom. Now this one is going to do a strike attack. The _WAAAGH's!_ over so that's only six, 3+, Strength 24 attacks, for 10 damage a pop. Ready?"
"Oh, I should probably figure out how many of the 22 orks made it out of the one you blew up first." 😜
I think at one point they will revamp these rules and make plastic kits for them (possibly bigger).
How different were the rules compared to the even older "Space Fleet" game from GW? I remember liking how you had direct and broadside attacks and your moves were done simultaneously.
@TomasQuinones great question! I'm not sure, as I never played Space Fleet, but they were quite a bit more in depth than all of the other fleet games I've played - Star Wars Starship Battles, Axis & Allies War at Sea, and X-Wing Armada. I loved the facings and movement rules! The torpedos/fighters were a bit clunky. It's been 15 years since I've played a game though
Average Ork player 🟩
Edit: the kids made me chuckle 😂
love the videos
Don't forget Man O' War and Gorkamunda. Battle fleet Gothic was ok. It lasted 6 months for original sales. The model size compared to ruleset was not that functional.
@frankyuengling8074 Man O'War was amazing! Yeah the original BFG gameplay was awkward, but the models...
@@DaRedWunzGoFasta The models are excellent. I still have mine. I regret I didn't buy Orks back then. It was one of two games that I didn't start with Orks.
I remember having a 4x4 green board and black board. Had 8 imperial cruisers, 1 battleship, and 12 frigates. Really cool game, and wish they would come back out with the end of Star Wars armada
@@Naddabeht I had the same thing but tan (for desert) and black! Played Battlefleet and Star Wars Spaceship Battles (the OG SW fleet game) on that black side.
I have to many Gothic ships to count.
@@Randy-jw3vh *squeeeeee* you must show them off!!!
I bet all GW specialist or spinoff games have a hard time getting traction when they have to compete with a juggernaut like 40k. But it’s always cool when a company can tries something new and different. However I personally think GW should stick to their cash cows and when you’re in for something different check out indie or smaller companies. That’s what I’m doing lately.
@@CronosVids that's great advice!
@@DaRedWunzGoFasta The main giveaway is that when smaller companies or a similar indie game is released it will get more support from the developer. And if you support them with your wallet it will be sustainable for them as well.
As an example, I back the kickstarter of TTCombat’s miniature game Half Tilt. It’s similar to the classic white dwarf game Full Tilt but played with halflings. GW would never resurrect such a niche and unknown game, but a spiritual successor is the way to go if you ask me. And there are countless others.
@@CronosVids that sounds amazing! I would love for GW to sell some of these IPs to Indy developers. Could you imagine Mordheim or BFG in the hands of someone else?!?
@@DaRedWunzGoFasta That would be amazing, but they’re so protective of their IPs that they would never trust another with them. Maybe they should trust others with making rules, while they focus all their efforts on making models and keeping product in stock. Here’s to wishful thinking.
I rember having a bsf back in Gothic and it was so not balanced at all
Armada was a better naval game.