I know, I know, I'm so weird about this... I understand the pressures of production, but awesome-thank you so much for going back to playing your signature theme on camera! Opening and closing your videos with it just adds this extra bit of _je ne sais quoi!_
This was great, I have been researching "what does an a chord look like on piano?" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Penaycer Rudimentary Preponderance - (do a google search ) ? It is a smashing one off guide for discovering how to play the piano easily without the normal expense. Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my neighbour got great success with it.
I came across a Steinway that was covered in gold leaf (everywhere on the instrument). It played terribly and sounded like tin, but its sale price was $500,000.
I currently have a 180cm R. Lipp grand from around 1910 with beautiful wood finish, fully restored (really, everything was replaced, repaired or brushed up). Bought it for ~5000€ because the piano trader couldn't sell it. I was wondering why, because it's over 100 years old and except for maybe a professional using it >4 hours a day satisfying every possible need. And it sounds sooo awesome!
I have a piano that is one of two that were built by Chappell of London in 1935 for the first class lounges of the new luxury cruise ships, the Queen Elizabeth I and the Queen Mary. It is beautifully made in art deco style from thuja wood which has a burled effect. As far as we know, the pianos were never installed on the ships due to the outbreak of WWII. Both ships were quietly sailed from England to New York ( avoiding the German U Boats that were patrolling) to meet the sister ship, the Mauritania. All three vessels were stripped and retro-fitted into troop carriers. In 1941, my piano was taken from storage and sold at auction. A wealthy man bought it for his 8 year old daughter and she played it well into her 80's. Now it sits in my house on Prince Edward Island, much loved and well played.
Once came across a Steinway upright in a piano shop. The instrument is from the 1940s, white color and in almost mint condition. The label on top says it was used by American GI during WWII and was sent to some remote island in the S. Pacific for entertainment. Don't know the number of previous owners before it ended up in the shop selling for over $10,000. Besides the brand name, there is historical value and may be a limited edition as well.
Hi, I just recently discovered your channel and it's totally fascinating! I would like to ask if you could make a tutorial on how to play/arrange rap parts feom a song on the piano because a lot of people including me are struggling with it.
My 1930 Knabe grand is in phenomenal condition. Has a beautiful tiger-striped mahogany finish. Might not be worth more than $5k on the market, but to me, it’s irreplaceable. You simply can’t get a hand-made American piano with ebony and ivories any more. And the spruce soundboard was cut from virgin NW forest.
Have any of you ever heard of a Lockhart Upright Grand? It was made by a company from New York, that’s now defunct. It was made in the early 1900s and I just want to repair and tune it to it’s original condition. It’s out of tune by two whole semitones and I was told a piano is never supposed to be that out of tune. The sustain pedal seems to have broken off of its rod or bar, dangling about in its hole. I’m scared that I’ll have to scrap it one day and I don’t want to. Any help or advice?
Has anyone ever heard of HUPPMANN piano makers in Baltimore, MD. A friend of ours sold her 330 year old house and it had a square concert piano that was purchased new in 1860 from this company. I have looked everywhere for any information, but to no avail. Could it have been Knabe before it became Knabe? Please help! Thank you.
We have an Osborne baby grand piano from Boston. Was surprised to find out that the company closed down in the 1930's. It was given to my grandmother when she was young, it was already an antique then. It was still in good playing condition til the 90s. Might make a project out if it and see if we can still get it tuned properly.
have you heard of Mathushek and sons player pianos that use a cd player or something like that? I want to buy one I found, but can't find out anything about them.
So, is a piano from late 18th Century made in Germany and shipped here only worth a few grand? I know many different things come into play with this question so let me give you a little rundown from what I know. This piano is apparently an 1890 produced by Hagspiel & Comp. It has been well kept and tuned by a professor at Carnegie Mellon. It's played still to this day and the wood looks great! I am not sure where to find the serial number but if I found right one it is only a 4 digit number...? Not sure but really could use some advice from someone who knows German antique instruments. Please ask any questions! Would love to find out truth behind this beauty. Thank you
I see the best of the best antique pianos go by, some are very valuable. 99% of them are worthless its a crazy niche market. I recently got a free 1840 Chickering&Makay square that was headed to the dump. Everyone says these should be saved or worth something but if no one wants to buy them or store them theyre worthless.
i have a piano that fits every characteristic that he described at the beginning of the video, and its in pretty great condition. do you think its worth anything?
Apparently only a few of our piano were made but unfortunately my mom lost the information of the appraiser years back that’s why we are now generally looking
Okay my mother and I need a buyer fast for our antique piano I think she said one or two note things need to be fixed it’s made in like around 1910-30s she has all I information needed but we need a buyer. We don’t want to sell it but we are in a pickle rn and need to.
I visited Madrid like a year ago, I played in a pleyel that is signed by Arthur Rubinstein, and he played in 1964, the concert was in Madrid or another Spanish city I don't remember exactly, but the the owner told me that he will sell it in 2 million euros
apart from the question of their price/value: Some of these antique pianos - due to their odd sound - are a perfect fit for Jazz, Blues, Klezmer ... any kind of innovative or experimental music, even some classical pieces can sound interesting on an antique piano (lke Ravel, Chopin, Satie ...)
i have an upright piano that's over 100 years old, i know this because of what company made it. it was made by Wilhelm Spaethe which is a Germany company from 1858 to 1917. But the special thing about my piano is that they didn't make the upright pianos with the 3rd peddle until 1911, so my piano was made between 1911 and 1917. This makes my piano one of a kind from this company (that's now a restaurant) so yeah very limited edition for me to get. I got a little curious with how much someone would be willing to pay for such an exquisite instrument. AND NO, i am not interested in selling the piano. It has been passed down my family generations for over 100 years now, so no i'm not selling it no matter what.
If you're going to ask about it's condition well: The condition is fantastic. it must not have been played often for it to sound as good as it dose. And no i'm not trying to ripe up the price, i'm genuinely happy with how long it's been able to last. Especially through World War 1 and 2 (well through the timeframe away from Germany, it was bought and then taken to Europe) Must have been before World War 1 since that started in 1914 (i don't think my great granddad wanted to go to Germany during WW1 just to come back with a piano)
Robert you mentioned how a piano being in a house near the beach would have a negative effect on the physical condition of the instrument - I remember my instructor saying pianos that had spent considerable lifetime in the Middle East are also prone to being in poor condition and are easily damaged - what are some of the environmental factors that can negatively impact the physical mechanics/properties of a piano, grand or upright?
Your number one concern should be how much the temperature and humidity changes around the piano. Ideally keeping it at the same temperature and humidity with as little variation as possible will get you a piano that will stay in tune for a very long time. For regulation and smooth action, the biggest factor is simply wear and tear, but moisture (or in some areas, lack thereof) is the piano's greatest enemy. Vermin are also an issue in certain locales but are more easily combated outside the piano (except maybe silverfish).
So, a piano from late 18th century built in Germany is not worth very much? It is a Hagspiel &comp piano grand from around 1890 supposedly. It has been tuned and cared for by a professor from Carnegie Mellon university. I was told by one person that it was only worth $3000 which I found insane. This was just one of the online "expert opinion" to see what they said. Also, the serial number in this piano is only 4 digits. Would the serial numbers be more then 4 digits? IF so, I need to find correct one.. I appreciate any advice or help!
Well, the value is not always in the money but all the more in the soundworld modern pianos can't deliver (anymore). If you are really interested in understanding what composers of a more distant past meant, starting off with the period instruments they have known could be very inspiring indeed. Although I appreciate well made modern pianos a lot I adore my antique pianos restored to their original conditions. They have cost me a consideral amount of money, but less still than purchasing brandnew modern ones (!) The quality is quite the same, but man, the sound these old ones make and how performant these actions are... Cheers, Willem (Belgium - Europe)
I agree with your general point, that there are historic instruments that have a really high value. If you want to hear what Chopin heard when he played his music, an old Erard grand might be great. If you want to hear what Beethoven might have heard (had he not been deaf) a 200 year old Broadwood would be perfect. And early Haydn Sonatas on a historic fortepiano certainly is interesting. All these instruments can ask a really, really high price. But as Robert said: Condition is everything. If you find a 200 year old piano that was top quality at its time (that means it was not the equivalent to a modern 110cm upright, but the equivalent of a Steinway D274), that is in great condition or that can be restored with reasonable effort, then you have an instrument of real worth. Historically informed performers would kill to get such a piece. But if it is in terrible condition? Or if it was not a high class instrument of its time, but a beginners training instrument of low quality? No, then this old piece will have no real value. BTW: I personally do not like the sound of the Erards of Chopin's era and would always pick a middle class 180 - 200cm modern grand over any of them. If you would give me one, I would gladly take it, of course. I would push my 1980 Hoffman 190cm into a corner and put it in my living room to show you how much I appreciate the gift. And once you left, I would sell it to a guy who knows how to play it and would pay off the last rates for my house. :)
How about a Walworth piano from 1912 by the M. Schultz Piano Co. in Chicago (which existed from 1900-1929 and discontinued just before the Great Depression)? Check out the video: The Piano That Time Forgot "1912 Walworth" th-cam.com/video/QZ-a9emORcs/w-d-xo.html A piano with a good value doesn't have to be a high-end name. It just have to be a rare model from a company that no longer exists and still in good condition.
i don't know much about piano but my friend told me he has an old piano want to sell it's F.hellstorm oslo piano it's in a good condition just missing 3 black buttons i searched for it but i found nothing can someone tell me information about it or how much dose it worth
So a piano that dates back to early 20th century and has a plaque that shows it was present at the World Fair of 1905 at Liege in Belgium, is worth something even if it's not in a playable condition? ;-)
Antique pianos: museum piece or scrap pile most of the time unfortunately. Cabinets aren't made the same anymore but the innards are made a lot better. Fantastic video anyway!
I know, I know, I'm so weird about this... I understand the pressures of production, but awesome-thank you so much for going back to playing your signature theme on camera! Opening and closing your videos with it just adds this extra bit of _je ne sais quoi!_
What a pleasant man!
This was great, I have been researching "what does an a chord look like on piano?" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Penaycer Rudimentary Preponderance - (do a google search ) ? It is a smashing one off guide for discovering how to play the piano easily without the normal expense. Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my neighbour got great success with it.
I came across a Steinway that was covered in gold leaf (everywhere on the instrument). It played terribly and sounded like tin, but its sale price was $500,000.
It was about 90 years old.
I currently have a 180cm R. Lipp grand from around 1910 with beautiful wood finish, fully restored (really, everything was replaced, repaired or brushed up). Bought it for ~5000€ because the piano trader couldn't sell it. I was wondering why, because it's over 100 years old and except for maybe a professional using it >4 hours a day satisfying every possible need. And it sounds sooo awesome!
I have a piano that is one of two that were built by Chappell of London in 1935 for the first class lounges of the new luxury cruise ships, the Queen Elizabeth I and the Queen Mary. It is beautifully made in art deco style from thuja wood which has a burled effect. As far as we know, the pianos were never installed on the ships due to the outbreak of WWII. Both ships were quietly sailed from England to New York ( avoiding the German U Boats that were patrolling) to meet the sister ship, the Mauritania. All three vessels were stripped and retro-fitted into troop carriers. In 1941, my piano was taken from storage and sold at auction. A wealthy man bought it for his 8 year old daughter and she played it well into her 80's. Now it sits in my house on Prince Edward Island, much loved and well played.
Great seeing you again Robert, loving the theme variation this week.
Once came across a Steinway upright in a piano shop. The instrument is from the 1940s, white color and in almost mint condition. The label on top says it was used by American GI during WWII and was sent to some remote island in the S. Pacific for entertainment. Don't know the number of previous owners before it ended up in the shop selling for over $10,000. Besides the brand name, there is historical value and may be a limited edition as well.
Hi, I just recently discovered your channel and it's totally fascinating! I would like to ask if you could make a tutorial on how to play/arrange rap parts feom a song on the piano because a lot of people including me are struggling with it.
My 1930 Knabe grand is in phenomenal condition. Has a beautiful tiger-striped mahogany finish. Might not be worth more than $5k on the market, but to me, it’s irreplaceable. You simply can’t get a hand-made American piano with ebony and ivories any more. And the spruce soundboard was cut from virgin NW forest.
Bang-on. Accurate information as usual Robert...
Many thanks.
Have any of you ever heard of a Lockhart Upright Grand? It was made by a company from New York, that’s now defunct. It was made in the early 1900s and I just want to repair and tune it to it’s original condition. It’s out of tune by two whole semitones and I was told a piano is never supposed to be that out of tune. The sustain pedal seems to have broken off of its rod or bar, dangling about in its hole. I’m scared that I’ll have to scrap it one day and I don’t want to. Any help or advice?
Has anyone ever heard of HUPPMANN piano makers in Baltimore, MD. A friend of ours sold her 330 year old house and it had a square concert piano that was purchased new in 1860 from this company. I have looked everywhere for any information, but to no avail. Could it have been Knabe before it became Knabe? Please help! Thank you.
I have a Chickering & Sons square grand built between 1860 and 1865 (Civil War era) that needs a tune up. It's in very good condition.
We have an Osborne baby grand piano from Boston. Was surprised to find out that the company closed down in the 1930's. It was given to my grandmother when she was young, it was already an antique then. It was still in good playing condition til the 90s. Might make a project out if it and see if we can still get it tuned properly.
have you heard of Mathushek and sons player pianos that use a cd player or something like that? I want to buy one I found, but can't find out anything about them.
I just wanted to know what the brass an the ivery keys are worth fell off truck and it has 1847 stamp New York
So, is a piano from late 18th Century made in Germany and shipped here only worth a few grand?
I know many different things come into play with this question so let me give you a little rundown from what I know.
This piano is apparently an 1890 produced by Hagspiel & Comp. It has been well kept and tuned by a professor at Carnegie Mellon. It's played still to this day and the wood looks great! I am not sure where to find the serial number but if I found right one it is only a 4 digit number...? Not sure but really could use some advice from someone who knows German antique instruments. Please ask any questions! Would love to find out truth behind this beauty. Thank you
I love my antique piano!
I see the best of the best antique pianos go by, some are very valuable. 99% of them are worthless its a crazy niche market. I recently got a free 1840 Chickering&Makay square that was headed to the dump. Everyone says these should be saved or worth something but if no one wants to buy them or store them theyre worthless.
i have a piano that fits every characteristic that he described at the beginning of the video, and its in pretty great condition. do you think its worth anything?
Apparently only a few of our piano were made but unfortunately my mom lost the information of the appraiser years back that’s why we are now generally looking
You forgot the biggest and most common exception!!!! If it has been recently restored or not!
Okay my mother and I need a buyer fast for our antique piano I think she said one or two note things need to be fixed it’s made in like around 1910-30s she has all I information needed but we need a buyer. We don’t want to sell it but we are in a pickle rn and need to.
Hello, I have a historic over 100 years old piano. Unique history. Can you recommend a person who can help me sell out?
I visited Madrid like a year ago, I played in a pleyel that is signed by Arthur Rubinstein, and he played in 1964, the concert was in Madrid or another Spanish city I don't remember exactly, but the the owner told me that he will sell it in 2 million euros
They're worth putting coasters on ....... and little lamps
It all really depends on the piano
apart from the question of their price/value: Some of these antique pianos - due to their odd sound - are a perfect fit for Jazz, Blues, Klezmer ... any kind of innovative or experimental music, even some classical pieces can sound interesting on an antique piano (lke Ravel, Chopin, Satie ...)
i have an upright piano that's over 100 years old, i know this because of what company made it.
it was made by Wilhelm Spaethe which is a Germany company from 1858 to 1917.
But the special thing about my piano is that they didn't make the upright pianos with the 3rd peddle until 1911, so my piano was made between 1911 and 1917. This makes my piano one of a kind from this company (that's now a restaurant)
so yeah very limited edition for me to get. I got a little curious with how much someone would be willing to pay for such an exquisite instrument.
AND NO, i am not interested in selling the piano. It has been passed down my family generations for over 100 years now, so no i'm not selling it no matter what.
If you're going to ask about it's condition well: The condition is fantastic. it must not have been played often for it to sound as good as it dose. And no i'm not trying to ripe up the price, i'm genuinely happy with how long it's been able to last. Especially through World War 1 and 2 (well through the timeframe away from Germany, it was bought and then taken to Europe) Must have been before World War 1 since that started in 1914 (i don't think my great granddad wanted to go to Germany during WW1 just to come back with a piano)
Robert you mentioned how a piano being in a house near the beach would have a negative effect on the physical condition of the instrument - I remember my instructor saying pianos that had spent considerable lifetime in the Middle East are also prone to being in poor condition and are easily damaged - what are some of the environmental factors that can negatively impact the physical mechanics/properties of a piano, grand or upright?
Your number one concern should be how much the temperature and humidity changes around the piano. Ideally keeping it at the same temperature and humidity with as little variation as possible will get you a piano that will stay in tune for a very long time.
For regulation and smooth action, the biggest factor is simply wear and tear, but moisture (or in some areas, lack thereof) is the piano's greatest enemy. Vermin are also an issue in certain locales but are more easily combated outside the piano (except maybe silverfish).
So, a piano from late 18th century built in Germany is not worth very much? It is a Hagspiel &comp piano grand from around 1890 supposedly. It has been tuned and cared for by a professor from Carnegie Mellon university.
I was told by one person that it was only worth $3000 which I found insane. This was just one of the online "expert opinion" to see what they said.
Also, the serial number in this piano is only 4 digits. Would the serial numbers be more then 4 digits? IF so, I need to find correct one.. I appreciate any advice or help!
Dude, 1896 Henry Miller. Says only 100 are left. Looks like it is in flawless condition.
Oh yeah. It says that it's a square grand.
is h.kriebel upright worth buying in 2020???
Well, the value is not always in the money but all the more in the soundworld modern pianos can't deliver (anymore). If you are really interested in understanding what composers of a more distant past meant, starting off with the period instruments they have known could be very inspiring indeed. Although I appreciate well made modern pianos a lot I adore my antique pianos restored to their original conditions. They have cost me a consideral amount of money, but less still than purchasing brandnew modern ones (!) The quality is quite the same, but man, the sound these old ones make and how performant these actions are...
Cheers, Willem (Belgium - Europe)
I agree with your general point, that there are historic instruments that have a really high value. If you want to hear what Chopin heard when he played his music, an old Erard grand might be great. If you want to hear what Beethoven might have heard (had he not been deaf) a 200 year old Broadwood would be perfect. And early Haydn Sonatas on a historic fortepiano certainly is interesting.
All these instruments can ask a really, really high price. But as Robert said: Condition is everything. If you find a 200 year old piano that was top quality at its time (that means it was not the equivalent to a modern 110cm upright, but the equivalent of a Steinway D274), that is in great condition or that can be restored with reasonable effort, then you have an instrument of real worth. Historically informed performers would kill to get such a piece. But if it is in terrible condition? Or if it was not a high class instrument of its time, but a beginners training instrument of low quality? No, then this old piece will have no real value.
BTW: I personally do not like the sound of the Erards of Chopin's era and would always pick a middle class 180 - 200cm modern grand over any of them. If you would give me one, I would gladly take it, of course. I would push my 1980 Hoffman 190cm into a corner and put it in my living room to show you how much I appreciate the gift. And once you left, I would sell it to a guy who knows how to play it and would pay off the last rates for my house. :)
Please… won’t someone take my family piano? Please? PLEASE?!? *sobbing*
How about a Walworth piano from 1912 by the M. Schultz Piano Co. in Chicago (which existed from 1900-1929 and discontinued just before the Great Depression)?
Check out the video: The Piano That Time Forgot "1912 Walworth"
th-cam.com/video/QZ-a9emORcs/w-d-xo.html
A piano with a good value doesn't have to be a high-end name. It just have to be a rare model from a company that no longer exists and still in good condition.
i don't know much about piano
but my friend told me he has an old piano want to sell
it's
F.hellstorm oslo piano
it's in a good condition just missing 3 black buttons
i searched for it but i found nothing
can someone tell me information about it or how much dose it worth
What about a rare Büchta 1885 grand piano ?
It's near to Bösendorfer history.
So a piano that dates back to early 20th century and has a plaque that shows it was present at the World Fair of 1905 at Liege in Belgium, is worth something even if it's not in a playable condition? ;-)
Maybe even a few candles
He reminds me of Charles McGill from “better call Saul”.
SO TRUE! Lol
I have a Holzman?
Antique pianos: museum piece or scrap pile most of the time unfortunately. Cabinets aren't made the same anymore but the innards are made a lot better.
Fantastic video anyway!
Great video! New sub also 👍👍
Hey, I've got this old piano!?!
What about a W W KIMBALL
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Don't agree at all.