Sorry, I have to do my usual Publc Safety Announcement again.... If you have a TV which has an insulating block between the RF tuner and aerial socket DON'T mod it for RGB! Those sets have a so called "hot chassis", where the entire PCB is floating a mains potential. It was a way for the manufacturers to make the TV more cheaply, without the need for a properly isolated power supply. But the only thing between you and electrocution is the insulator on the RF socket. Usually those TVs don't have anything else metal (like buttons) that are exposed to the outside of the case. If somebody were to RGB-mod those sets without realizing, it would pose a serious risk of electric shock when they go to plug in the RGB or audio cables, or even just touching the connectors. The TV in the video clearly has a metal extension from the RF tuner, a proper isolated switched-mode PSU, so should have proper isolation for the RGB signals (and the Ground taken from the secondary side of the PSU).
Even if you warn people not to do this mod unless they know what they're doing, the problem is that most of the guides never mention the "hot chassis" thing. It's a particularly insidious problem, because you could in theory even test the RGB input OK when hooking up to a console (since the console's often have a "floating" DC power supply too), but get a serious shock if you touch the cable/connectors, or other cables hooked up to the console at the same time as something grounded (like a cable box, other cables, radiators, taps, pipes, other devices, kittens, etc.) And people WILL unfortunately try this mod regardless of the usual warnings about discharging the tube etc. The mod can obviously be done safely (like on the TV in this vid), but definitely something to watch out for. Stay safe. ;)
Yeah some old technology can be crazy dangerous. There's a reason we used to have electronics repair shops everywhere back in the day, you couldn't just do it yourself like building a computer today. Another one is guitar tube amps. Don't mess around with the tubes yourself, trying to replace them or whatnot. You can get shocked doing that too even when the amp is off and not plugged in with a kettle lead. Nowadays it seems there's more regulation to try and make electronics safer, like it's easy enough to replace a phone battery or fix a gamepad by opening it up. That's a good thing. They're still probably making CRTs in China somewhere with no regulation at all though, with this unsafe factor. I've heard some people import newly made CRTs from China off Ali express or whatever to play old consoles with. I dunno if I'd risk it. Just get an old one off ebay.
Oh yeah, guitar amps. That's another one. lol I just stumbled on a thread about that, too, while looking for CRT "hot chassis" stuff. All those stories of musicians getting zapped on stage are probably due to that, like in "Almost Famous", or "The Commitments".
The silly thing about RGB support on European televisions, despite it being a commonplace feature since the early 90s, it wasn't really all that well-known or advertised among the general populace. Most devices would still hook up to a television through RF or Composite, and games consoles too all came with RF or Composite cables out of the box. RGB SCART cables needed to be purchased separately and unless you knew specifically what they were and what they did, it was very easy to just pass them up in ignorance. I didn't learn about RGB until the early 2000s well into the PS2 era, after which I immediately upgraded everything I could to RGB SCART because ohmygod it looked sooooo much better.
Additionally, it was very easy to get confused by the difference between signal and plug. A lot of people thought the SCART adapters included in the box with most consoles was RGB, because SCART is RGB right? Well no, SCART can carry Composite, S-Video and RGB signals. That adapter is just there for televisions that don't have separate Composite plugs on them. To get RGB you needed to get a fully integrated RGB SCART cable, but without that particular knowledge it was easy to think that an RGB SCART cable was the same as Composite plugs + a SCART adapter.
@@Astfgl I didn't know about RGB until I got my Mega Drive 2 out of the garage and I found out how much of a pain was to use the R/F connection, fortunately my LCD still has SCART RGB so I thought to look on ebay for scart cables and it was pretty easy to find a good scart RGB one for cheap. The jump in quality was fenomenal, even if it's not perfect because of the LCD screen it was still light years better from what I was used to.
Back in the days I used my SNES with RF (it even came with a cable splitter so that you didn't have to unplug the antenna from the TV). Only recently I tried a SNES with RGB SCART and the difference is huge. Although I must say that it's more noticeable on 2D consoles rather than on newer consoles like the PS2.
@@Astfgl I know this as I knew people even in the HD era use composite with HD tvs and if you told them they said "it must be hd as its a HDtv" I used to change my parents tv to RGB in the early 2000's and my dad would change it back saying it was worse, to be fair it was the saturation was higher on composite rather than the sharpness, I have been RGB since 1997 most recent was in 2016 I was staying for a few weeks as someones lodger who used a original xbox via rgb and I could tell it was set to AV and not RGB in the menu as soon as I did it they thanked me and saw a huge difference. As a final note I found it hilarious how people who badmouthed CRT's in the HD era were the ones using RF and Composite and assuming the "bad" picture was due to it being SD.
Seeing Joe next to a real human man (that isn’t Dave) reminds me that he’s not a cartoon character and is in fact really alive somewhere. It’s surreal 🤯
Apparently this happens to quite a lot of folks. I've also got imaginary Joe telling me to notice how sweet parallax scrolling is every time I see one.
Please remember to be safe if you are going to attempt this. Not all CRT's were built the same so you should really not go into this with half an idea or without the right tools.
The hilarious skeleton jump cuts do convey the air of danger surrounding slapping your hands around the guts of a TV if you are a dumb ape... but good mention.
Seconded. Amusing visual gags aside, this can straight up kill you. I touched (no, grazed) the neckboard of my PVM once and let me tell you..... it wasn't especially fun.
I have a pet peeve where people would call the Mega Drive the Genesis. I like Mega Drive more, but America had to change the console name to Genesis I guess...
This is super cool. Love to see a curved Sony crt with RGB. I want to let everyone know that there is a plug and play solution to getting RGB out of consumer grade North American CRTs. You need a CRT that has component (not composite) inputs. All you need is a RGB to component transcoder. And there you have it. RGB quality video on a consumer grade tv. No input lag. no video quality loss. no need to mod your tv. I can verify that the shinybo transcoder and the retrotink transcoder work great. Costs like 70 bucks.
I cant love this comment enough. It literally is that good. The shinybow sb2840 is one of the best rgb to component converters out there. Just make sure you use a good quality component cable and you are golden.
@@RetroDoneRight I tell people keep their eye out for Panasonic TV's from the early - mid 00's as they still used curved glass on their sets, and the picture quality is really good, and for the most part they do include component inputs, and stereo inputs/outputs. I have a 27 Panasonic with everything going threw component, but will for sure be upgrading now I know about the cable, and I use the stereo output to pump it into my 5.1 Dolby surround sound setup., and let's just say when I was playing Vigilante 8 on the N64 a while back with some friends on a game night the windows rattled lol.
@@RetroDoneRight most flat screen crt tvs are sd tvs and support 240p perfectly. I have 6 sony flatscreens and 1 jvc flatscreen. They all work fine. There are hd flatscreens that upscale 240p to 480p. I had one and it did indeed suck for 240p. Hd sets are easy to spot. They say"hd" all over them.
@@JeffYPbPr can you recommend a good cable? I started to notice a diagonal lines artifact. It's really faint but annoying. By the way. I have a shinybo transcoder. It works flawlessly.
I really liked this. Super interesting and in game sack style. I also really liked the live feed / chat. Game sack has been a part of my viewing life for a long time, so it was really cool to understand you on a new level. Appreciate all the work you do.
It was really perplexing when I first learned that you guys didn't have an RGB in your TVs back then. It was a very common practice in Europe where we had to get RGB cables to play imports with color on our TVs because we were the ones who got usually shafted pretty hard by the gaming industry. All the 50Hz bullshit and for some reason they decided not to release most of the good games here. So, we had to import them and naturally mod our consoles and get those RGB cables. Missing those times somewhat. Not all the hassle and the cost of importing stuff all the time but the gaming itself.
That Zelda story was so endearing. Nerdy, cool, funny and sweet. Thanks for sharing! Knowing people at that age who you could chat with about a game like it was an adventure you were each individually embarking on, and discussing strats etc., really just made my day. Plus the whole arc of trying to impress a girl, putting in the hours to avoid your bluff being called, and the dream of getting to play the game together all night being squashed by the other mom .. straight out of a coming-of-age sitcom or subplot in a film.
Yeah, as an English gamer I was watching this for a good while thinking "what are they talking about?! Most TVs were RGB compatible. Never realised the US was completely different in that regard. Thinking about this I also recalled the early name that was used for RGB scart - the fabled 'Euroconnector'
usa did have rgb monitors but they were not typically consumer-grade (medical imaging monitors, security camera monitors, broadcast, etc) / also another workaround would be to use a quality vcr (good sony ones will let you watch PAL tapes & modulate pal signals)
I'm always amazed and blown away watching people like Ben Heck, The 8 Bit Guy, and now Nick who have so much skill and talent with modding and refurbishing electronics. I recently bought a soldering iron and feel inspired to want to learn and understand how it all works but things like Ohms, Voltage, Transistors, Resistors, Capacitors and all the scientific knowhow seems intimidating.
Joe this is incredible! I've never seen anyone mod anything before and this is fascinating. Want to see more of Nick he's brilliant. . Thank you again! (Also I hope Dave clobbers you for the last skit.)
9:01: Gaming in B/W. Yes, I experienced that too when I got my first computer (a C64) in the early 90s. But it was even worse. Not only was it a black and white TV, it was one that was way past it's prime. So I started gaming and programming on an old east german black and white TV (called "Luxomat") with a dying phospor layer so I aways had to darken the room to see what I was actually doing. Before the unification of germany I only experienced gaming (and programming) to a certain degree with east german home computers (KC85) at school which were connected to a small russian TV-set (I guess it was a Junost brand) which also was in black and white. Only the teachers TV was in color (and bigger).
Yunost is actually Estonian ☺️ EDIT : I am totally whrong. Yunost (Юность) is ended a Russian TV , and Shiljalis (Шилялис) is Lithuanian brand and it is still around to this day
Joe can always announce Monster Truck Rallies if Gamesack ever fizzles out. ;) As for black and white, my first TV was a 13" color set I bought used for my Atari 800xl. It worked until I retired it in 1989. Then my dad took it and put it in his shop and used it until 2002 when he wanted a bigger set. :) THAT is quality.
I had one for my PS1 and my TV was the old one. I was very confused when I opened the box for the first time and couldn't find where those tri-colored cables had to be connected.
When my friend got his PSX he couldn’t hook it up because the only input on his TV was a 75 ohm coax input. He had to pass it through a VCR. I had to play NES and Genesis through a 75 ohm to 300 ohm transformer but fortunately by the 5th generation I didn’t have that issue.
I have a 1992 Sony Trintron I use composite for old school gaming. I am glad someone is modding CRTs to repurpose for gaming. So many nice CRTs in at Goodwills in my area our like 5 bucks a piece and being trashed from lack of sells.
We were lucky here in the UK with RGB being largely the standard however we got shafted with 50hz. Thank heavens today we can take advantage of both and so much more.
We eventually got CRT TV's with component inputs, and have 2 that can do it, but that didn't become common till the very late 90's - mid 00's, unless you spent a boatload on some high end Mitsubishi TV that cost a years worth of paychecks.
Here in Europe, RGB was the standard for consoles, VCRs, LDs, etc...beside Composite. We had the Scart Plug, which was a huge invention. And in that plug, you had the three signals, Sync, Stereo Sound. All in one. It was genius. Anyway, good to see you happy with your new mod, Joe! :-) Have fun and enjoy all your favorite games now.
lol same. can't believe we used that garbage rf signal.... but hey we didn't know any better :) the craziest thing is that i did own a rgb capable television because my side of the world did use it. but i only dealt with american stuff that seldom came with rgb cables or anything back in the day. i do remember my vhs and some other stuff we used rgb with.
Probably the only advantage we had/have here in UK/EU that we can feel happy about when it comes to retro gaming. RGB 240p is a thing of beauty. Back in the day buying an RGB SCART cable was the first thing you bought alongside your new console. The PAL Saturn only came with RGB SCART in the box when it was first released, somethng not even the Xbox, PS2 or GC offered.
Hiro Plays Games Screw that resolution, you don‘t even know what it was like having to play everything at 17% reduced speed and huge ass borders top & bottom of the screen :S
Looks great. Nick can mark that as a job well done. Great video, Joe. It's always a nice surprise to see what kind of wacky antics make their way into the show.
It is getting sparse, but local universities are still flush with old PVM monitors. I managed to pick up a pallet of them not long ago, and for dirt cheap. Right now I have a number of Sony 2950q monitors. Check your local State resell shop, I find the site gov deals is a good start. They only have the auction listings, but you can visit the warehouse during certain times every week. It is worth a look!
You got some great lighting in your basement Joe. It looks like it's daytime in there. I like how you wiped your face with the rag after wiping down the crt lol. The picture looks great man. Please go away.
Another great episode! Enjoyed your special guest Nick and his interesting tales. Green Dog looks great in RGB! Thanks for keeping the goodness coming every week, Joe!
🇬🇧 U.K here, used to have to use the RF connector 😫, but remember getting RGb Scart pretty much as standard mid to late 90’s. The clarity was a revelation.
I went through a really rough time and had to move a couple years ago and hastily got rid of some CRT's I found around town. Even though it wouldn't turn on, I found this crazy widescreen flatscreen CRT(about 25"-27"), it was a Samsung and it had HD ports, component, fiber optic sound port, s-video, the works. I nvr took it to a shop to get fixed, so mad I got rid of it. I wish I could've seen it in action, I looked it up back when I had it and apparently it was an expensive TV. Oh well, I still have a cool Panasonic 30" bubble CRT with component ports, I got my PS3 to get up to 480p on it. I wish I had that Samsung working now that the Mega Man Zero/ZX collection came out, would've been awesome to hook up my PS4 to play those games on a more appropriate screen.
@Jumper: mobile gaming OH really, I didn't even think about that, makes sense, it was the beginning of HD at home. So input lag definitely had to be a factor, I feel a little better. I guess a PVM is still the #1 option for hardcore collectors/retro enthusiasts.
Thnx Nick, for being a real down to earth n humble guy. I had fun watching it and hearing your stories and input, although i have no clue bout all the technical aspects. Stay as u are, buddy.. :) and Joe, your humor is on point again in this episode. You be dat weird nerdy guy u still would like to hang out with ;) peace, dj skeli
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Sorry, I have to do my usual Publc Safety Announcement again....
If you have a TV which has an insulating block between the RF tuner and aerial socket DON'T mod it for RGB!
Those sets have a so called "hot chassis", where the entire PCB is floating a mains potential.
It was a way for the manufacturers to make the TV more cheaply, without the need for a properly isolated power supply.
But the only thing between you and electrocution is the insulator on the RF socket.
Usually those TVs don't have anything else metal (like buttons) that are exposed to the outside of the case.
If somebody were to RGB-mod those sets without realizing, it would pose a serious risk of electric shock when they go to plug in the RGB or audio cables, or even just touching the connectors.
The TV in the video clearly has a metal extension from the RF tuner, a proper isolated switched-mode PSU, so should have proper isolation for the RGB signals (and the Ground taken from the secondary side of the PSU).
Even if you warn people not to do this mod unless they know what they're doing, the problem is that most of the guides never mention the "hot chassis" thing.
It's a particularly insidious problem, because you could in theory even test the RGB input OK when hooking up to a console (since the console's often have a "floating" DC power supply too), but get a serious shock if you touch the cable/connectors, or other cables hooked up to the console at the same time as something grounded (like a cable box, other cables, radiators, taps, pipes, other devices, kittens, etc.)
And people WILL unfortunately try this mod regardless of the usual warnings about discharging the tube etc.
The mod can obviously be done safely (like on the TV in this vid), but definitely something to watch out for.
Stay safe. ;)
Good info. Pinned!
Yeah some old technology can be crazy dangerous. There's a reason we used to have electronics repair shops everywhere back in the day, you couldn't just do it yourself like building a computer today. Another one is guitar tube amps. Don't mess around with the tubes yourself, trying to replace them or whatnot. You can get shocked doing that too even when the amp is off and not plugged in with a kettle lead.
Nowadays it seems there's more regulation to try and make electronics safer, like it's easy enough to replace a phone battery or fix a gamepad by opening it up. That's a good thing. They're still probably making CRTs in China somewhere with no regulation at all though, with this unsafe factor. I've heard some people import newly made CRTs from China off Ali express or whatever to play old consoles with. I dunno if I'd risk it. Just get an old one off ebay.
Oh yeah, guitar amps. That's another one. lol
I just stumbled on a thread about that, too, while looking for CRT "hot chassis" stuff.
All those stories of musicians getting zapped on stage are probably due to that, like in "Almost Famous", or "The Commitments".
@@electronash thanks for the Pubic Safety Announcement
The silly thing about RGB support on European televisions, despite it being a commonplace feature since the early 90s, it wasn't really all that well-known or advertised among the general populace. Most devices would still hook up to a television through RF or Composite, and games consoles too all came with RF or Composite cables out of the box. RGB SCART cables needed to be purchased separately and unless you knew specifically what they were and what they did, it was very easy to just pass them up in ignorance. I didn't learn about RGB until the early 2000s well into the PS2 era, after which I immediately upgraded everything I could to RGB SCART because ohmygod it looked sooooo much better.
Additionally, it was very easy to get confused by the difference between signal and plug. A lot of people thought the SCART adapters included in the box with most consoles was RGB, because SCART is RGB right? Well no, SCART can carry Composite, S-Video and RGB signals. That adapter is just there for televisions that don't have separate Composite plugs on them. To get RGB you needed to get a fully integrated RGB SCART cable, but without that particular knowledge it was easy to think that an RGB SCART cable was the same as Composite plugs + a SCART adapter.
@@Astfgl I didn't know about RGB until I got my Mega Drive 2 out of the garage and I found out how much of a pain was to use the R/F connection, fortunately my LCD still has SCART RGB so I thought to look on ebay for scart cables and it was pretty easy to find a good scart RGB one for cheap. The jump in quality was fenomenal, even if it's not perfect because of the LCD screen it was still light years better from what I was used to.
Back in the days I used my SNES with RF (it even came with a cable splitter so that you didn't have to unplug the antenna from the TV). Only recently I tried a SNES with RGB SCART and the difference is huge. Although I must say that it's more noticeable on 2D consoles rather than on newer consoles like the PS2.
@@Astfgl I know this as I knew people even in the HD era use composite with HD tvs and if you told them they said "it must be hd as its a HDtv" I used to change my parents tv to RGB in the early 2000's and my dad would change it back saying it was worse, to be fair it was the saturation was higher on composite rather than the sharpness, I have been RGB since 1997 most recent was in 2016 I was staying for a few weeks as someones lodger who used a original xbox via rgb and I could tell it was set to AV and not RGB in the menu as soon as I did it they thanked me and saw a huge difference. As a final note I found it hilarious how people who badmouthed CRT's in the HD era were the ones using RF and Composite and assuming the "bad" picture was due to it being SD.
Here in Elbonia we used BGR.
Jumpscares at:
1:54 - Screwdriver (Even Joe jumped)
4:15 - Jungle Chip
4:51 - Jungle Chip: Part 2
10:28 - Joe is dead
21:08 - Joe is dead: Part 2
chuckled at "Joe is Dead: Part 2"
Who knew that Matt Damon's brother modded tvs?
They don't look that much alike >_>
Chuck Norris?
Seeing Joe next to a real human man (that isn’t Dave) reminds me that he’s not a cartoon character and is in fact really alive somewhere. It’s surreal 🤯
I've met him on 3 separate occasions so I'm convinced lmao
I'm still not convinced.
Surreal is the fact that he has fans.
Pure dementia.
Not funny at all.
I just tried this at home and died. Thanks a lot, Joe.
RIP
F
Instructions unclear, now my microwave only plays Pal region games
You got the RIP mod instead of RGB. ;)
Joe: this is NOT a tutorial!
Me: *standing in front of broken TV* well, shit...
watch 8bit guy tutorial about it .
Now every time I see Green Dog, I say to myself "Ghreeeen Dawwwwgggg" in Joe's voice. It's a problem.
Pavlov strikes again!
Same!
Apparently this happens to quite a lot of folks. I've also got imaginary Joe telling me to notice how sweet parallax scrolling is every time I see one.
@@SylverstoneKhandr how often do you see Green Dog?
Cool video and great CRT work. Love seeing other people work on CRTs.
Maybe it is just me, but sometime I truly feel GameSack and AVGN videos make me love this world a little bit more.
"Don't try this at home!" He points out before refusing to take his own advice. 😁
He didn't try it, he got Nick to do it!
@@ALTDOK667 I saw Joe getting electrocuted & his head fell off when he tried to mod the black & white 9 inch screen tv that his mommy gave him.
Customer: So, whats wrong with my TV?
Technician: It needs a new JUNGLE CHIP!!!
Please remember to be safe if you are going to attempt this. Not all CRT's were built the same so you should really not go into this with half an idea or without the right tools.
Nobody wants to be the person that died from a tv and shat their pants.
The hilarious skeleton jump cuts do convey the air of danger surrounding slapping your hands around the guts of a TV if you are a dumb ape... but good mention.
Seconded. Amusing visual gags aside, this can straight up kill you.
I touched (no, grazed) the neckboard of my PVM once and let me tell you..... it wasn't especially fun.
Genesis and Dreamcast boy, my kind of guy, I don’t know this man but I already like him!
I have a pet peeve where people would call the Mega Drive the Genesis. I like Mega Drive more, but America had to change the console name to Genesis I guess...
What about the Saturn (
Came for the mod, left with a good "Zelda story." 👍🏻👍🏻
Jungle chip
Best comment
Majestic cow. King of the jungle.
Jungle penguins, too. Guess they'd be a...prince?
@@Dorelaxen No they're an Emperor.
19:37
NOT RUDE!
I SAID "PLEASE"!
Nick McCracken already has one of my friends drooling for a RGB mod thanks to this episode!
This girl story could be an episode of The Goldbergs!
One of the most hilarious and honest stories I’ve ever heard... 3rd Grade and Zelda. This is a great episode. Not to mention super informative.
To be honest, I was more interested in his stories than the mod... XD
Lol true that. Perhaps Joe has found his new sidekick??
That random Jungle Chip cutaway is the reason why we still subscribe to Game Sack.
Hoping to see more of Nick in the future, great episode!
Great episode Joe, I really enjoyed this episode and would love to see more of these technical showcases. Thanks!
CRT televisions here in Europe are getting rare because they had RGB SCART built in from the get-go. I’m a proud owner of one.
I've owned like four of them over the past years.
Black and white. I remember it well. Man I is getting old.. :( Nick is a very cool guy great stories..:)
This is super cool. Love to see a curved Sony crt with RGB. I want to let everyone know that there is a plug and play solution to getting RGB out of consumer grade North American CRTs. You need a CRT that has component (not composite) inputs. All you need is a RGB to component transcoder. And there you have it. RGB quality video on a consumer grade tv. No input lag. no video quality loss. no need to mod your tv. I can verify that the shinybo transcoder and the retrotink transcoder work great. Costs like 70 bucks.
I cant love this comment enough. It literally is that good. The shinybow sb2840 is one of the best rgb to component converters out there. Just make sure you use a good quality component cable and you are golden.
The issue is that a huge majority of crts that accept component are flat screen, which means they don't display 240p content correctly.
@@RetroDoneRight I tell people keep their eye out for Panasonic TV's from the early - mid 00's as they still used curved glass on their sets, and the picture quality is really good, and for the most part they do include component inputs, and stereo inputs/outputs. I have a 27 Panasonic with everything going threw component, but will for sure be upgrading now I know about the cable, and I use the stereo output to pump it into my 5.1 Dolby surround sound setup., and let's just say when I was playing Vigilante 8 on the N64 a while back with some friends on a game night the windows rattled lol.
@@RetroDoneRight most flat screen crt tvs are sd tvs and support 240p perfectly. I have 6 sony flatscreens and 1 jvc flatscreen. They all work fine. There are hd flatscreens that upscale 240p to 480p. I had one and it did indeed suck for 240p. Hd sets are easy to spot. They say"hd" all over them.
@@JeffYPbPr can you recommend a good cable? I started to notice a diagonal lines artifact. It's really faint but annoying.
By the way. I have a shinybo transcoder. It works flawlessly.
CRTs are really easy to find in my region for cheap. I might try this with a guide.
‘Learned a game to impress a girl’ - file under things that will only happen in grade school
modding guy has some pretty awesome storys glad to see a bright shining light keeping the retro gaming alive and healthy
This is the first time I've ever seen someone demonstrate how to discharge a CRT with it actually popping. Nice
It's because most people when they show them off on camera have let them sit for so long before modding, that they have already discharged.
I really liked this. Super interesting and in game sack style. I also really liked the live feed / chat. Game sack has been a part of my viewing life for a long time, so it was really cool to understand you on a new level. Appreciate all the work you do.
4:15 JUNGLE CHIP!!!
Is he gonna do that, every time he says jungle chip, yes he is.
He better xD
GREEN DOG'S JUNGLE CHIP!
FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER
I guess we got lucky in Europe, almost all TVs from the mid 90s and on accepted RGB through scart.
I scrolled down to say exactly the same thing, I guess it's the one thing they got right in PAL land..
That 50hz though 🥴
James Smith yeah but 50Hz 🤮
TH-cam Admin Nope, a lot of PAL TV’s can do 60hz
Tvs were 60hz, consoles were 50hz
It was really perplexing when I first learned that you guys didn't have an RGB in your TVs back then. It was a very common practice in Europe where we had to get RGB cables to play imports with color on our TVs because we were the ones who got usually shafted pretty hard by the gaming industry. All the 50Hz bullshit and for some reason they decided not to release most of the good games here. So, we had to import them and naturally mod our consoles and get those RGB cables. Missing those times somewhat. Not all the hassle and the cost of importing stuff all the time but the gaming itself.
The "Jungle Chip Screen" and "Electrocution Scene" were funny, more of that please lol
That Zelda story was so endearing. Nerdy, cool, funny and sweet. Thanks for sharing!
Knowing people at that age who you could chat with about a game like it was an adventure you were each individually embarking on, and discussing strats etc., really just made my day. Plus the whole arc of trying to impress a girl, putting in the hours to avoid your bluff being called, and the dream of getting to play the game together all night being squashed by the other mom .. straight out of a coming-of-age sitcom or subplot in a film.
"JUNGLE CHIP!!!"
oo ooo aa aaah ahh!
*75 OHMS Ω!!!!!*
I love how a penguin and a cow live in the jungle
🐒🐯🐺🐻🦁🦍🦎🦒🦓🐘🐍 🐨
@@CrossoverGameReviews AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Yeah, as an English gamer I was watching this for a good while thinking "what are they talking about?! Most TVs were RGB compatible. Never realised the US was completely different in that regard. Thinking about this I also recalled the early name that was used for RGB scart - the fabled 'Euroconnector'
usa did have rgb monitors but they were not typically consumer-grade (medical imaging monitors, security camera monitors, broadcast, etc) / also another workaround would be to use a quality vcr (good sony ones will let you watch PAL tapes & modulate pal signals)
12:10 diehard Nintendo Power / Zelda fans will know his 2nd quest predicament right away. :) ouch!
I'm always amazed and blown away watching people like Ben Heck, The 8 Bit Guy, and now Nick who have so much skill and talent with modding and refurbishing electronics. I recently bought a soldering iron and feel inspired to want to learn and understand how it all works but things like Ohms, Voltage, Transistors, Resistors, Capacitors and all the scientific knowhow seems intimidating.
Joe this is incredible! I've never seen anyone mod anything before and this is fascinating. Want to see more of Nick he's brilliant. . Thank you again! (Also I hope Dave clobbers you for the last skit.)
this is my dream project. have been building up my skill with other soldering jobs like repairs and chip installations
this was an entertaining change of pace! Great work guys
Great episode, Joe! I never knew this was possible. And I just love that Super Adventure Island at the end. Thank you
9:01: Gaming in B/W. Yes, I experienced that too when I got my first computer (a C64) in the early 90s. But it was even worse. Not only was it a black and white TV, it was one that was way past it's prime. So I started gaming and programming on an old east german black and white TV (called "Luxomat") with a dying phospor layer so I aways had to darken the room to see what I was actually doing. Before the unification of germany I only experienced gaming (and programming) to a certain degree with east german home computers (KC85) at school which were connected to a small russian TV-set (I guess it was a Junost brand) which also was in black and white. Only the teachers TV was in color (and bigger).
Yunost is actually Estonian ☺️ EDIT : I am totally whrong. Yunost (Юность) is ended a Russian TV , and Shiljalis (Шилялис) is Lithuanian brand and it is still around to this day
Joe can always announce Monster Truck Rallies if Gamesack ever fizzles out. ;) As for black and white, my first TV was a 13" color set I bought used for my Atari 800xl. It worked until I retired it in 1989. Then my dad took it and put it in his shop and used it until 2002 when he wanted a bigger set. :) THAT is quality.
that was kind of mean at the end Joe "Please go away" lol
You're extremely lucky to have someone in your area who can do this!
I love the synthwave music on this video.
The lack of green screen and random location in the beginning definitely gave me 2011 Game Sack vibes.
oh wow i keep forgetting that game sack had a long history
6:56 "But once...the Attitude Era hit" Wrestling fan, confirmed! 😂 We can't hide it
Guilty as charged!
His timeline was off though. Attitude era was the late 90's
@@overkill7990 he's talking about video game Attitude era. Basically started with Sonic. Not wrestling Attitude era
I love Nick now please have him as a guest
The real question is: How much Mega Power doe the Jungle Chip have?!
Today is my sister birthday, so the first thing i do when i wake up is watch the new GameSack video, priorities are priorities!
Who remembers having to pack a 75 to 300 ohm converter to their friends’ houses to play NES on a knob-based CRT? I do!!!
i do :D
Yep I did that with the TV at my grandmother's house that was in her sunroom.
I had one for my PS1 and my TV was the old one. I was very confused when I opened the box for the first time and couldn't find where those tri-colored cables had to be connected.
When my friend got his PSX he couldn’t hook it up because the only input on his TV was a 75 ohm coax input. He had to pass it through a VCR. I had to play NES and Genesis through a 75 ohm to 300 ohm transformer but fortunately by the 5th generation I didn’t have that issue.
I remember! Also I remember always looking for a butter knife to unscrew the screws in transporting situations lol.
I have a 1992 Sony Trintron I use composite for old school gaming. I am glad someone is modding CRTs to repurpose for gaming. So many nice CRTs in at Goodwills in my area our like 5 bucks a piece and being trashed from lack of sells.
One of the few benefits of living in Europe. Almost every (middle class and upwards) TV was RGB compatible.
50 htz sucks compared to 60
@@jacobprayer8656 Some TV were capable of 60Hz, very few all the games at the time unfortunately
@@i-dont-burn-under-the-sun Most, if not all, late Euro CRTs are multistandard (PAL/NTSC).
@@jacobprayer8656 my B&O CRTs handle 60Hz no sweat, so a region mod on the console is all that is needed
My 19" Sony CRT (at least 25 years old) supports 60Hz just fine.
Fun episode. I actually enjoyed watching the whole thing. 👍
We were lucky here in the UK with RGB being largely the standard however we got shafted with 50hz. Thank heavens today we can take advantage of both and so much more.
We eventually got CRT TV's with component inputs, and have 2 that can do it, but that didn't become common till the very late 90's - mid 00's, unless you spent a boatload on some high end Mitsubishi TV that cost a years worth of paychecks.
As a tech who works on more modern TVs this is an interesting watch. Thanks for uploading this!
Tried at home since this was a tutorial. My lawyers will expect you to replace the testicle that was fried.
@Lassi Kinnunen you don't?
I'd love to see more gaming mod videos! This was so fun to watch!
That was the best ZELDA story I"ve ever heard. Thanks for sharing.
Here in Europe, RGB was the standard for consoles, VCRs, LDs, etc...beside Composite. We had the Scart Plug, which was a huge invention. And in that plug, you had the three signals, Sync, Stereo Sound. All in one. It was genius. Anyway, good to see you happy with your new mod, Joe! :-) Have fun and enjoy all your favorite games now.
Anyone else think Nick McCraken was going to be Joe dressed as another character??
S-Video and composite looks amazing on my 27" Trinitron...I guess it's because I grew up using RF for everything. Great Video Joe!
lol same.
can't believe we used that garbage rf signal.... but hey we didn't know any better :)
the craziest thing is that i did own a rgb capable television because my side of the world did use it.
but i only dealt with american stuff that seldom came with rgb cables or anything back in the day.
i do remember my vhs and some other stuff we used rgb with.
My father owned a Mitsubishi TV with S-video from the 80's, so was cutting edge at the time.
If Joe says there's a cow in the jungle then there's a cow in the jungle, period.
Or a 🐧
Probably the only advantage we had/have here in UK/EU that we can feel happy about when it comes to retro gaming. RGB 240p is a thing of beauty. Back in the day buying an RGB SCART cable was the first thing you bought alongside your new console. The PAL Saturn only came with RGB SCART in the box when it was first released, somethng not even the Xbox, PS2 or GC offered.
Ah, Nick McKracken! I loved that game (lol).
I had the NES too back at the 80 born '76 . The gameplay is still fun today
For all the Euro folks about to pipe up about SCART... We didnt get SCART in the US.
I'm a euro folk and already noticed some stating the obvious that they can be picked up everywhere for free lol
At least our signals were at faster, at 60 hz. Take that stupid Europeans.
@@eddielockhart2072 But their resolution was higher. :(
Hiro Plays Games Screw that resolution, you don‘t even know what it was like having to play everything at 17% reduced speed and huge ass borders top & bottom of the screen :S
@@Gryzor88 true. Im uk and thought everything "normal" until I started emulating. ...and i was like - this whole time.....goddamit!
10:25 Best moment ever. It must be timestamped for future generations to come.
2 in the morning gang who up
8 am for me, just in time for my cheese sandwich
Jungle Chip Cru
Up
@@AgentDanielCross cheese sandwich?
are u at least gonna melt it.
u knw like a proper grilled cheese
Midnight for me. Bowl of raisin bran and a surprise Game Sack episode 🤔👍👍
Looks great. Nick can mark that as a job well done. Great video, Joe. It's always a nice surprise to see what kind of wacky antics make their way into the show.
This makes me moister than an oyster.
Wetter than an English Setter.
It is getting sparse, but local universities are still flush with old PVM monitors. I managed to pick up a pallet of them not long ago, and for dirt cheap. Right now I have a number of Sony 2950q monitors. Check your local State resell shop, I find the site gov deals is a good start. They only have the auction listings, but you can visit the warehouse during certain times every week. It is worth a look!
You got some great lighting in your basement Joe. It looks like it's daytime in there.
I like how you wiped your face with the rag after wiping down the crt lol. The picture looks great man. Please go away.
I was really puzzling over that last sentence before I got to the end of the video 😅
that's how Covid starts... 😂
i cringe laughed so hard at that lol
Tbh, these type of TV’s are more durable than their “furturustic” counterparts.
the crt eventually develops burn in, capacitors go dry, but still can last for 20-25 years... or more
Nah man maybe with a poke to the screen, but they all smash the same off the roof.
Another great episode! Enjoyed your special guest Nick and his interesting tales.
Green Dog looks great in RGB! Thanks for keeping the goodness coming every week, Joe!
Gotta love how this is completely pointless to watch for anyone in Europe
Jep xD
I couldn't be happier with the jungle chip thing. Those vibrating monkeys stole my heart.
Hey you two, don't stand so close to each other. So much for social distancing.
We even shook hands! But for those wondering we shot this about a month ago.
@@GameSack Haha! I'm just giving you shit. Love your videos BTW. Thank you for making them available on TH-cam.
@@GameSack Please do a namaste for viewers across the globe.
Awesome! Nice change of pace vid Joe. Good job on the mod!
*laughs in European
One word 50hz
@@orderofmagnitude-TPATP I have 100hz crt. No problem.
Games run at 50hz anyway
@@orderofmagnitude-TPATP We could still play NTSC 60 hz on our CRT's. Either by import, or mod our consoles.
LMAO I never had it here so I never missed it...ha ha...(cries in corner over nothing missed).
Love the use of Super Adventure Island music for the game montage. That's a pretty underrated game soundtrack.
That face reflection during the credits is a nice touch lol
I loved your interview style. Very casual and reminds me of 1up show.
🇬🇧 U.K here, used to have to use the RF connector 😫, but remember getting RGb Scart pretty much as standard mid to late 90’s. The clarity was a revelation.
Dude this video was so good thanks to your comedy and genius editing.
that 75 ohms part was hilarious lol
that's a VERY good television.
trinitrons are still good and you have a big one
I went through a really rough time and had to move a couple years ago and hastily got rid of some CRT's I found around town.
Even though it wouldn't turn on, I found this crazy widescreen flatscreen CRT(about 25"-27"), it was a Samsung and it had HD ports, component, fiber optic sound port, s-video, the works. I nvr took it to a shop to get fixed, so mad I got rid of it. I wish I could've seen it in action, I looked it up back when I had it and apparently it was an expensive TV. Oh well, I still have a cool Panasonic 30" bubble CRT with component ports, I got my PS3 to get up to 480p on it. I wish I had that Samsung working now that the Mega Man Zero/ZX collection came out, would've been awesome to hook up my PS4 to play those games on a more appropriate screen.
They where terrible for gaming it's called an HD crt and they have terrible input lag
@Jumper: mobile gaming OH really, I didn't even think about that, makes sense, it was the beginning of HD at home. So input lag definitely had to be a factor, I feel a little better. I guess a PVM is still the #1 option for hardcore collectors/retro enthusiasts.
I officially nominated him as your co-host !!!... Dave who ?
Thnx Nick, for being a real down to earth n humble guy. I had fun watching it and hearing your stories and input, although i have no clue bout all the technical aspects. Stay as u are, buddy.. :) and Joe, your humor is on point again in this episode. You be dat weird nerdy guy u still would like to hang out with ;) peace, dj skeli
I still have a Montgomery Ward TV in my moms basement from high school. We used to have a Mitsubishi VCR in the 80’s
Penguins and Cows do live in the jungle!! Came on GameSack to be educated.. was not disappointed..
great vid and awesome tune selection 👌 19:54
Excellent work man. CLEAN job!