Testing Gold Dolls in CF West: Do They Increase Critical Rate in Zombie Mode?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.พ. 2024
  • In this video, I tested three types of Gold Dolls: 6x Nemesis Doll Gold, 6x Bolt Doll Gold, and 6x Manticore Doll Gold. No other Critical Rate items were used, such as Critical Rate Costumes, Ivy Mask, Colossus Horns, Cronus Eye. Each doll is expected to contribute 3% Critical Rate, and since they are stackable, there should be a cumulative 18% Critical Rate added.
    To illustrate the absence of any doll usage, 6x Ares BL Doll, which doesn't have any added critical rate, was included in the testing.
    Unfortunately, no noticeable difference in the critical hit chance (Yellow Hit appearance rate) was observed during the testing. It appears that none of these dolls effectively enhances critical hit chances in the game.

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  • @light1366
    @light1366 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As far as I remember this map has a bug on CF WEST, making the first 2 spots on the room have close to no critical hits. Being on the 3rd or 4th spot on the room after the room has started gives you a noticeable higher critical rate. You shouldn't use this map to test your dolls.

    • @namvu2525
      @namvu2525  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's called Critical Rate Inheritance, in which the crit rate of the player's costumes and item at higher spot can be inherited to those who are in the lower spots. That means, critical rate of 2nd spot player is the critical rate of the 1st spot + crit rate of himself and so on. That's why if everyone in the room (1st, 2nd and 3rd spot) uses the 18% critrate costume set + 10% critrate from the item (ivy mask, colossus horn, cronus eye), the 4th spot player will have almost 100% critrate and if they don't have full set, 4th spot player will have a much lower critrate.

    • @light1366
      @light1366 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @namvu2525 could be but you are first in the room and i barely see any crits. I believe even m4 obsidians and demon weapons are bugged in this map so nothing works. Just try a different map.

    • @namvu2525
      @namvu2525  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@light1366 because im the first one in the room, the critrate in this case always reflects my true crit rate without any inheritance. That means, if i use the 18% critrate costume set and ivy mask, my critrate will be much higher. In this video im having only 3% base critrate and if the dolls works, i expect to have 24% critrate, which is much higher than this. I played this map many times but didn't see any problem. But i'll try in different maps and let you know later.

    • @namvu2525
      @namvu2525  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@light1366 I've solo tested in Frozen Abyss and Infernal Shrine. The result is the same, no difference in critrate noticed while using 6x gold dolls.

  • @KimTzuyuCFPH
    @KimTzuyuCFPH 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What can we understand on normal damage ( white digit ) versus max damage output ( red digit ) ? Sometimes it is very confusing to make an argument on the difference of VIP crit perks compared to gold dolls.

    • @namvu2525
      @namvu2525  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Red damage is critical damage and is equal white damage x150% (except in Red Zone map). M4A1 Born Beast/Scarlight Baihu/QBZ Enigmatic Beast/Demonic Weapons do NOT increase the chance to get Red damage nor the x150% (means they do NOT increase critical rate% nor critical damage%)
      These VVIP Weapons, instead, using ANOTHER SYSTEM of so called "Critical Hit". Each M4A1 Born Beast/Scarlight Baihu/QBZ Enigmatic Beast in the bag adds 3% chance to deal a hit that it's damage is boosted up to 250%, and heal you 2HP.
      It means, for example, you are using M4A1 Protocol and dealing 100 Damage each Bullet to a Boss. If you have 1x M4A1 Born Beast/Scarlight Baihu/QBZ Enigmatic Beast in the Bags (1 to 7), you have 3% chance to appear a hit that deals 250 Damage to Boss instead of 100, and this IS stackable, means = 18% if you have 6x M4A1 Born Beast/Scarlight Baihu/QBZ Enigmatic Beast in the Bags.
      If this 250 Damage Hit combine with the Red Damage named above, it will be 250x150% = 375 DMG.
      Demonic Weapons are simply just adds everyone in the room 3% more chance to appear this "Critical Hit", and is NOT stackable.

  • @dk1ce896
    @dk1ce896 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi can you tell me if all dolls (nemesis bot manticore) have same crit ? I ask this because i see they have difrent description ... 3% crit rate and crit chance 3% or is the same just difrent text ?
    Thx

    • @namvu2525
      @namvu2525  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They all have the same meaning: +3% critical rate (3% more chance to have the yellow/red damage instead of white damage). And even Ivy Gold Doll and Ashen Gold Doll have this effect, even thought its not mentioned in their description.
      With the patch updated 2 weeks ago in CF West, now these dolls do increase critical rate like they should at the beginning. GMs fixed the bug.

    • @dk1ce896
      @dk1ce896 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@namvu2525 Thx

  • @namvu2525
    @namvu2525  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In this video, I tested three types of Gold Dolls: 6x Nemesis Doll Gold, 6x Bolt Doll Gold, and 6x Manticore Doll Gold. No other Critical Rate items were used, such as Critical Rate Costumes, Ivy Mask, Colossus Horns, Cronus Eye. Each doll is expected to contribute 3% Critical Rate, and since they are stackable, there should be a cumulative 18% Critical Rate added.
    To illustrate the absence of any doll usage, 6x Ares BL Doll, which doesn't have any added critical rate, was included in the testing.
    Unfortunately, no noticeable difference in the critical hit chance (Yellow Hit appearance rate) was observed during the testing. It appears that none of these dolls effectively enhances critical hit chances in the game.

    • @galaticruber6491
      @galaticruber6491 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What is 18% crit rate costumes ?

    • @namvu2525
      @namvu2525  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@galaticruber6491 Ivy Helmet + Ivy Minimi + Ring Gold Backpack add 15% Critical Rate. Plus 2 more from Titan Citadel or Elemental Temple (Goggles, Canteen, Pouch) adds 3% Critical Rate. In total = 18%

  • @AMANEGI
    @AMANEGI 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i tested at CFCN with the same 6x dolls, and the crit rate was much higher than what was shown in the video. so i think it's a bug in CF West, this bug makes only 1 doll effective (or a wrong index makes no doll effective). it's very ez to test, only need 3 teammates with a crit rate of 28% (Arcadia Set with Megalith /Ring Blade Backpack-Gold+3% crit rate on any two items+Ivy Mask), then you are only 12% (incl. initial 3%) away from 100% crit rate. then you can judge whether these golden dolls are effective by 10% crit rate set +1 doll (or 4x golden dolls for stacking test).

    • @AMANEGI
      @AMANEGI 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      if 10% crit rate set+1 doll still shows non-crit white dmg, it means these dolls are not effective at all. in the same way, if your own 88% crit rate + 4 golden dolls (12% crit rate) still appear white dmg, it proves that these dolls cannot be stacked in CF West

    • @namvu2525
      @namvu2525  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AMANEGI it seems like the doll isn't effective at all and even when 1 doll works only, which means their effect are non-stackable, the difference of 3% crit is hard to notice.
      In CFVN, the situation was the same until recently and especially with the Nemesis Doll Gold they've just updated in the last patch. A guy tested with the same method as i did and he has much higher critrate with some gold dolls.

    • @namvu2525
      @namvu2525  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      th-cam.com/video/NQm4ccJezEY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jPWcWuQbPR1NJK6g
      In this video i played with 3 other clanmates, we all use 28% critrate set. But there are still white damage even tho i was using all 7 doll gold (4x manticore + 3x bolt).

    • @AMANEGI
      @AMANEGI 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@namvu2525 endless bugs in CF haha, hope they can be fixed

    • @namvu2525
      @namvu2525  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AMANEGI yeah 18-21% critrate is alot xd i'll report this bug to their discord channel and then we'll see.

  • @ronnelespedido4489
    @ronnelespedido4489 หลายเดือนก่อน

    do scar and obs share the same crit,power etc thanks

    • @namvu2525
      @namvu2525  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes, 3% chance to give an attack that x2,5 times the damage and heal 2HP. Stackable.

    • @ronnelespedido4489
      @ronnelespedido4489 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@namvu2525 I've seen almost all of your vids, you're using scar instead of obs, question I own 6 obs already and 2 scar do I need to buy another 4pcs of scar?

    • @namvu2525
      @namvu2525  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ronnelespedido4489 no 2x scar + 4x obs is good. I use 6x scars to spam rightclick only. In term of damage buff, Scar, M4 Obs and QBZ Ballistic share the same attributes.

    • @ronnelespedido4489
      @ronnelespedido4489 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@namvu2525 in za4 onslaught to obtain highest dps should i do this set up (spas,proto,proto,x4 obs) ?

    • @namvu2525
      @namvu2525  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ronnelespedido4489 i will stick with 1x spas and 6x scar/obs. Unless you wanna tryhard for top dps at last Manticore or trying to kill Allspark 5 faster.

  • @virusplays6276
    @virusplays6276 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How to get manticore doll blue?

    • @namvu2525
      @namvu2525  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

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