Sorry Clara and Blade fans. I wasn't disrespecting them. I simply forgot that the archetype is already owned by them when writing that one line. I'm not immune to making mistake too... Usually my husband corrected me while editing the footage if he found an error but this time he didn't say anything so I thought the script was fine. It's only one line but I think it's quite fatal so I apologize. ======= Join Lily's Discord for character builds : discord.gg/X4TQ2h9
Not a bad mistake, IMO. When I was viewing the video, I thought you were introducing another novel setup, using the less used trailblazer type. I totally missed out the fact Clara and Blade would fit as well.
I've been waiting for Jingliu since they announced Blade's kit and wanted a Duo DPS team with both of them. Been saving since Blade's banner and I really hope 260 or so Pulls will get me E1S1.
@@hxnslshhax9011 Be cautious of E1. The potential is crazy high but it only works if the enemy target is ALONE (1) meaning if you're fighting against 2+ enemies (which is most of the time) it will not transfer that wasted damage to the main and that one adjacent target. By the time there's only one enemy left, the battle it's pretty much finished that's why it's only an E1
@@toan.2764 i mean if you are fighting 2 to 3 targets your damage is not wasted because it still hitting those targets un like e0 you damage is wasted because there is no adjacent targets.
@@hxnslshhax9011 yes i agree but that defeats the point of having E1 if you want her to be "The Hunt" since it's basically E0 all over again. So it's more like a bonus, not as cracked as you might think and you should reconsider E1 and maybe get another character instead ( i mean you can argue that any eidolon of any character is a bonus after all). Just a friendly reminder, F2P life is tough
@@toan.2764 Nice point you made there bud, I also thought about her E1 being strong but mediocre at the same time and also many players are getting overshadowed by the solo burst high damage potential output of her E1 to single-last enemy but just as you said; "By the time there's only one enemy left, the battle it's pretty much finished that's why it's only an E1."
really love that point u did make! i have a really strong blade and a really strong qingque. thats all i need for now to get moc done. fu xuan protects my quantum team while lynx protecs blade. fill the other spots with supports and be done. i still have to work on my herta and pela, so dont want to be stuck in the trace farming loop for now.
To all of us out there who will pull jingliu banner just because we want the best out of our qingque, I wish you good luck and may we all get the E6 we always dreamed of. Great vid as always btw!
I don’t know about this one. And to be honest Clara can tank and also blow up planets. I think the lack of 5 star usage on your account doesn’t lend well to these videos. I do enjoy your 4 star content though.
Nice video, i like how accurate is it. In terms of dps, we have one more powerfull than the other, but its the same old. I'm a husbando/waifu type, but i care about gameplay & styles too. And so far, i like/enjoy non dps units more tbh.
The wisdom of Sun Tzu never fails, I just HAVE to pull for Jingliu because Asian blindfolded mommy just does it for me. No matter how OP or weak she is.
ive skipped kafka, jing yuan, blade and DHIL just to saved up for jingliu. i was going to skip fu xuan as well if not for my SW refused to apply quantum weakness to the enemies for 4-5 times in a rolls
While I agree with the sentiment that it's not a good idea to keep pulling characters all the time because you end up building your account horizontally, I don't see it being a big deal pulling on one of these DPS's even if you're good in the DPS department. Why I think that is because in the next banner, we're just getting another sustain and DPS. So, it's not like there's some useful buffer/debuffer we'll be missing out if we don't skip. We get so many jades from patch to patch that it's not gonna hurt your account getting yourself a new toy to play with, also if you have variety of different characters invested in it makes cavern of corrosion farming much much more efficient. A crappy relic for one character could end up being a god piece for another one of your characters
@@derrickcheow6088 Well if the dreams about Huohuo are true, she's offering something that no other unit except Tingyun is offering. And, if the numbers are high enough, she might actually have a big impact on team rotations. But yeah, 1.6 and beyond also seem promising in terms of enablers. With all this knowledge, 1.4 just seems like an easy skip.
Imo Jingliu's banner has higher value for begginers than Topaz's/Seele's With a little bit of luck they won't only start with with powerful 5* but also get a Tingyun who's argueably the best 4* in the game and Qingque who's also top tier DPS at E4+ with the strongest and rarest element in the game
03:54: Thats Kozo aka Yanqing. I only use him to keep jingliu's relic safe which is aeound 38% to 190% crit ratio, thats it. Otherwise i think i build my bronya, luocha , gepard, tingyun, kafka, sampo, seele, and lynx well. So yeah, i need more dps, and ice mommy to boot. ;)
This is the first time I've actually had a hard time deciding if I should pull or not. My account absolutely does not need her, but she is the first character in this game I have felt any kind of attachment to.
@@ghostglitch5355I made a veryy hard decision, my mind was set on jingliu since 1.2 but in 1.2 I won my 50/50 to blade and Kafka then I said I'll 100% safe for jingliu and skip 1.4 but then again I pulled on imbitaor lunane and got him another 5050 now I was stuck between fu Xuan which is a sustain Character and jingliu a DPS I thought alot about it since I got 2 freaking beast DPS I don't need another I'll pull her on her rerun for now I pulled Fu Xuan 💀 now I'm left with 0 pulls
welp, I'm gonna skip 1.4 cause I want to gear my characters properly so missing a DPS or 2 won't affect much my account. Also, I'm more interested in the 1.5 characters like Huohuo and Argenti
I watched this video two times and listened carefully actually But There are a few things i want to discuss First of all having a dps between blade , IL and seele and kafka and stuff is not a problem solver You want to have two functional teams for moc And also again as a new player that has been playing for almost a month now and got blade , my account has a lot of characters whom i havent spent any time on building them but still i have four characters that are fully built and im thinking that investing in a new dps and making my second team is gonna be a good choice for me And also tingyun being on the banner adds a lot of value to the banner too as she is probably the best 4* sup in the game rn And i dont even have her Yeah jing liu is attractive but honestly i dont even care about it that much , not saying or implying that i dont care about her character and lore , i actually love her story so much And i just honestly dont want topaz either i dont think her banner has that much value for my account other than topaz itself Im emphasizing on the " my account" part I just really think that having tingyun is gonna be a game changer And i have saved a lot of wishes too and my jing liu is guaranteed and im gonna have lot of wishes even after getting her and getting tingyun (f2p) and im gonna save for later characters later on to see if someones gonna actually be a benefit to me And also if you're a new player Having shit artifacts and low traces is kinda ok But yeah ig rushing it and getting every character that comes out is not logical either so take your time and maybe skip this one for better banners like seele or maybe some more sustain characters to maybe stabilize your team and keep your team alive as the only one you have may be natasha and though she can work but getting someone better (even lynx) may be a better thing to look out for rn All im saying is that You shouldn't just do the things everybody tells you go do blindly Go think and actually make choices Its alr to make wrong ones though we are all trying to avoid mistakes 👍
@@noice9193Why would you need another Dps when you've already beaten all the content in the game pulling for supports is more valuable for you because they're future proof. Pulling for Dps units is more risky because of powercreep
Yes, the FOMO is real. It is very very difficult to not pull for waifu, especially one that checks all the other boxes except suitability in your current roster. Good job pointing out there'll be rerun banner, now it will be up to the HSR to determine how fast we'll get her banner back. My potential solution? Alt account, even if it may be a pain to maintain.
This whole video is a good point. That's an ideal I've just started taken to sustainability > dps which is why I've decided on huohuo > jingliu, but now that she's here... Ice is my worst element and destruction is my worst path...and I don't have blade or IL or jing yuan. I could use a 3rd dps. What to do, what to do
Respectfully…I’m already in love with this character. Also I need more dps characters cause Seele is the only good one that I’ve leveled into and I really don’t wanna start backtracking on all my characters again and again
You know, uts funny u mention artefacts. Cause as I was farmin for Herta I somehow got the most CRACKED set of Ice Artefacts. Plus, I don have any of the broken DPS (never felt the need to pull for them) so I am actually quite in need on one. Also also I really want every 4 star on that banner. Almost have them all maxed out. So Its really just the perfect storm for me.
I made a new account, got Gepard, focused on it, then got Lynx and built Pela. My team has good sustain with ice characters, saving jades for Jingliu in the next patch!
Haha very true, only pull a unit of you intend to maximize their potential! It's far better to have 2 heavily invested DPSs then 10 half built ones. Having Silver Wolf helps with that though.
Good point, I need DPS so im gonna Pull for her. And from the leaks for next next banner( i don't know which one), Ruan mei would be Ice Harmony so i think she would be very good addition for Jing Liu mono ice in the future
Ruan Mei focuses mainly on Weakness Breaking and attacking enemies who's Weaknesses have been broken. She increases Damage Dealt to those enemies along with some other useful benefits. She's universally good for any party not necessarily just Mono Ice tho :3
I was looking through the banner to try and see the stats that i would be missing if i skipped Imbibitor Lunae. When I finished, I accidentally pressed the 10 pull summon button and got him. I didn't even want him and now that I have him, that means I won't get a guaranteed Jing Liu on her banner!!!! 😭 😭
I have Kafka but no other good dps nor sustain (fairly new and don't have Gepard or the dragon Loli.) Would you recommend me to keep going for fu xuan instead of saving for Jingliu?
As someone who started later, I'm seeing things the way you have just stated. I have some good characters that need work to be great. The only thing I'm looking at seriously with this banner is Seele because I lack quantum and having used her through supports I do like the way she plays. I don't really "need" anyone at this point, but there is that "oooh pretty" factor that is making me count jade LOL
My problem is the i dont really have a good dps other then yanqing. A right choise woud be to wait for a more future proof character and maybe go for fu xuan E2 if im at it, but i still think i need another dps. Can i get a little advice if someone has a little time?
I got Kafka the character i really wanted and while Fu Xuan, Jingliu and Topaz are great none of them super appeal to me the way Kafka did so im saving for now i guess 😂
I already use Herta, and I´m quite happy with her results... but I´m playing the waifu card here. Also Jingliu is a character that I loved since the first time she appeared in the story.
My only choice is topaz tbh, rather than building pity and ended up not getting jl, I'd better roll on topaz banner and e6 luka or guinafem for my kafka
I started game 10 days ago Got fu in 30 pulls I need dps right?nd jingliu first so i shld go for her rather than wait for more upcoming dps Nd i have invested in qq so might get her eidolons as well nd tingyun too so i shld go for her ryt?
The only regents I have is not pulling for kafka and luocha 🕳️🚶 i have bronya and fu xuan and need a good dps character so I still don’t know if she would work well for my team
Nobody can convince me not to pull jing lu. Well yeah I agree with you topaz might helps and seems very future proof because of follow up damage bonus for Follow up dps but if you like something there is nothing better infront of that perticular thing and also I don't have a ice dps in my team and i really don't like herta so it's a win win for me to pull her banner.
but topaz is hunt path. at the moment hunt path is difficult for the content, because a lot of adds are in the fight. see swarm. i have probs with my seele there. so i decided to gor for icedestruction =)
yeah i roll what i like if it good even better but i dont care about class in team of the characters i roll that why i still dont have healer or erudation character XD
If the argument is about which character is more future proof, you can just wait for another Topaz rerun in the "Future". Ideally you'll want at least one decent DPS in every element to easily clear hard content and since we currently don't have an actual good ice DPS, so Jing Liu will be very valuable
@@insect2424 or just pull silver wolf and seele and use them on everything easy XD i litellary clear all game content with these two ( having 1 good dps on every element is crazy if you ask me and it will take long time
@@insect2424 thats exactly the way i did in genshin. one great build maxed out main DD from every element. but for me i want to try my first destruction character, so jingliu is a big need for me. of course everyone can have different opinion. and you are right. reruns coming, so no missing of anything. just need to be patient ^^
People need to really consider when reruns drop. Waiting for Jingliu's rerun to pull for her isnt a great idea because who knows what banners will be dropping alongside her future rerun. Its a lot more to consider at that time than now.
I love how pepole say she is a must pull becuase she will powercreep yanqing or something (which is true ) but that the same reason why I am not pulling for her since she is kinda yanqing but aoe and better
True, they even copied the extra crit Yanqing has in his ult and slapped it into her enhanced state. Even her ascension2 and ascension4 traces are just yanqing's ascension4 and ascension6 traces. They truly said "let me copy your homework but give it fancier animations so that it's not that obvious" lol
If you pull for guinafen then prepere cash for kafka rerun banner. Because she will be one of top characters. Eventually just wait for next thunder users if you dont like it arlan maybe is only one of destruction thunder but is not the strongest unit. Even serval e6 is enough strong to be equal of the power with arlan. My plan is simple: 2 hunters why 2 reason is simple first they have a lot of synergy because they are SP neutral or sp positive characters. So overall [ 2 cards max] you need to get. Dont worry one from banner and one from herta is enough. How to should check out which one hunter will be fit for you? By effects and versality. Example Seele have extra turn and is one of the best quantum type. After QQ atm ofcourse. Topaz has extra follow atk which is better then hook and allow make him as support sp positive for dps which requirement spend more Sp. And is top 2 by the fire dps. 1 erudition if you have more then good for you you can only exchange a card and build a stuff for next dps. 1 nihility dps 1 card per path. You can get her from extra shop or herta shop. Not have to search on the banners. However if you get LC of jingyuan then you are in perfect way because that is the best lc for all of them. Thanks for extra crit dmg. Others treat as only dot enabler. So 4 star is enough. Harmony the most important but also annoying for build by the gaining cards. 1 from future herta shop and 1 from extra shop for your hypercarries characters. Abundance defensive support which requirement also 1 card from extra shop. Idk it will be possible to obtain from herta card but if not you have to invest into banner. Minimum 1. Why because always we put max 2 healers in the squad whats that mean you no need more then 2 healers. Bailu is your best friend and has 80% chance to be in the future your first e6 healer. The last one you can gain from extra banner. Preservation well he is easier then you think. Herta card + extra banner dont worry invest it only if you get rerun . But if you didnt want spend so much time of itnjust give them 4 star card. Max 2 in squad. And last one destruction path. So according to what we can obtain herta card is collected for ice imaginary and quantum type users. And extra shop doesnt offer the card so you have to give them from extra banner. Also max 2 for the squad. Now question is why? Because destruction is trought always one per squad. Some of them put 2 destructions in the one team but its really worth it? Not really. Its just waste of resources and time. If you are whale you wont be care about that stuff. Ofcourse you can put 4 star cards sure but dont forget the more you invest for your dps the more effects you obtain. Reason why i choose like that idea because limited resources if you see closely how many times we spend of farming aethers you see the limits of spending it. Especially when we gonna invest into powerfull cards. Economy is a key to the gain profits with proper prosperity you obtain that what you wish for time for farm kits and less grind of unnessesery things. And I guess thats it.
@@joshfullbright7678you mean blade getting powercrept? He will you can't avoid that but Blade will always good as sub dps just like topaz even tho blade does not have built in buffs support like topaz does but trust me blade is always good for any double dps teamcomps. Slowly but surely double dps meta will rise soon and blade will always good in any team comps no matter what.
I don't think it's possible to get many character at a rapid pace is possible for f2p when we mentions possibility of losing 50/50 and time to save up and such . I consider myself very lucky to get my hand on all the limited character in the first 2 patches without spending and i'm still be able to clear moc fine . The reason people get shit gear is all because poor power investment imo. All you need to do are not spam only one domain to upgrade your 80% seele, instead try to upgrade artifacts of others characters and trying farming domain that can help you build many characters in the early game . But not every gatcha players play like that , you likely gonna see people leveling all characters that they had to 80 , don't build 4* or just invest to niche characters that they liked .
That is in fact true, since you can clear MoC with just F2P characters, but most players are spreading their materials on to many different characters and making them mediocre instead of good/well build.
I went hard on the banners for this cycle and while I got Dan, I failed with Fu. My 50-50 was won by Welt so I went deep for her guaranteed pull. So I might skip next cycle so I have resources for the next world units as Penacony sounds interesting as it was at a point a prision planet before getting overtaken by the Harmony blessing
I'm not worried about ice queen, my worry, the free 4* selection I'm mostly worried about cause Im not warping yet, and I would want pela but there's no LC for her in shop so its between sampo and hook... just hit tl 50
I see where you're coming from in this video. Those who already have two or more limited 5* dps can safely skip the next banners. Even Topaz could be more worthwhile. Especially for Kafka mains since it has Guinaifen and Luka. For me however I only have Seele as limited DPS, since I lost to Blade and skipped Kafka. I also decided Fu Xuan over DHIL at the last minute, which I don't regret (despite having Luocha and Gepard already). For me Jingliu is mega value and I just hope she's close in power level to DHIL. Obv I don't expect her multipliers to be the same since he uses so many more skill points, but if she's a mid point between him and Blade I'll be happy. After that I think i might wait for Blade's rerun of nothing juicy comes out of left field.
I only have Welt as 5* and missed the Kafka Banner but she is my Waifu. Would you recommend me to still pull for Giunaifen even when i don't have Kafka yet?
@@Angels-Grace Hmm. Pulling for 4 stars is always kind of risky. If you have no interest in Topaz, even if she came home early then I would probably hold out. It's possible Guinaifen's first rerun will be on Kafka's first rerun banner. They did put a lot of DoT units on it the first time. After this banner she'll be added to the standard pool (and off pulls on limited banners) as well, though the chances of getting her are low. If you really like her then the risk might be worth it, but maybe wait a few days to see what people actually say about her with Kafka after testing.
To be honest in playing her with my friend who have Jingliu with 226 Crit DMG She doesn't suit in my playstyle and her dmg was not near to Dan Heng IL. Maybe i will wait another good and reliable character who have mix role similar to Fuxuan.
3:57 this is why better build utility unit abundance/preservation as sustain and Nihility or Harmony. Nihility debuffer but u can build dmg🤣 like welt(u don't see big dmg but they still deal decent dmg and debuff too) Harmony buffer but u can build tank 🤣 Like bronya ( not tanky as preservation and abundance but at least they can sustain getting one/2 shot and top of that build dmg is not worth like extra 10% dmg? ) Imagine 2 job and don't worry about powercreep I agree with you hoping they change the "Meta" and we kinda in Imaginary+quantum meta(like MOC and SD)and we don't see any crazy boss with ice weakness except the deer!
Im not gonna pull waifu card I got seela at star of the game and when i saw Jingliu on jingyuan banner i said to myself wow thats great design i like ice blades characters i did main Meryl in tof , Eula in genshin and now im going for Jingliu not because of waifu material but bc i love her estetic she can be below Jingyuan in terms of dmg i dont care for me its all about playing characters i like. I did skip all baners after getting seela so my account needs 2 dps for forgoten hall so its perfect for me
Jingliu powercreeps the absolute heck out of Yanqing in terms of pure Ice DPS that's for sure. However, that does mean if one has already built Yanqing and also has the mandated Gepard support, then they should not pull for Jingliu because they'd waste all their resources already spent on Yanqing, plus Gepard doesn't work with Jingliu too. The big thing is that Jingliu might be a Destruction for the bulk and the Blast AoE on her skill/ultimate, but in practice she's more like a Hunt, hence why she outright powercreeps Yanqing.
@@yoiko89 Well yeah, you have to center the team around Jingliu. This means running some extra HP pieces on your supports to ensure they can stay alive despite the drain, even if you factor in Luocha (and own him, obviously).
Jing Liu is waifu for me, but after pulling Fu Xuan and her light come i realized the exact same thing you said in the video, too many characters with shit gear and it's highly unsatisfying. I'll be skiiping 1.4 all the way to 2nd banner of 1.6. Then I'll consider whom to pull for.
i will pull for her cuz i have zero dps t5(i started playing this month) i got fuxuan and im on 50/50. i wasnt going to pull limited dps cuz it takes the fun away, but a friend of mine is begging me. so i will do it with a grain of salt. hope i lose the 5050 xD
My account's pretty well blanced, save for a support (blame SIlver wolf throwing a Gepard at me), so I'll probably save for Argenti or SW's rerun (probably the same banner tho 💀)
I would say for waifu: People gonna pull, but if you have Yanqing and use Welt Gepard or at Least March and MC with Him or are one of the People who main Kuru Kuru and Enjoy her. You don't need her.
jing liu is strong but Topaz is better for my account and I don't really want anyone else till Hanya and then I want both Ruan Mei and Hanabi. Hanabi would so good for my QQ . And we will also get screwllum. I want the 1.6 banner honestly but I will probably have to shell some money
I don't really want Topaz since my Clara is fully built and doing amazing without her already and my E2 Himeko is destroying on her own with my E6 Asta.
You can easily skip topaz as there are other units that buff like she does but for everything and not just follow ups. Imo jl is a must pull due to the amount of single and aoe dmg she does. Her lc is incredibly cracked too. Might just have to get that as well
Sorry Clara and Blade fans.
I wasn't disrespecting them.
I simply forgot that the archetype is already owned by them when writing that one line.
I'm not immune to making mistake too...
Usually my husband corrected me while editing the footage if he found an error but this time he didn't say anything so I thought the script was fine.
It's only one line but I think it's quite fatal so I apologize.
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Not a bad mistake, IMO. When I was viewing the video, I thought you were introducing another novel setup, using the less used trailblazer type. I totally missed out the fact Clara and Blade would fit as well.
I've been waiting for Jingliu since they announced Blade's kit and wanted a Duo DPS team with both of them. Been saving since Blade's banner and I really hope 260 or so Pulls will get me E1S1.
e1 is really good, she becomes a hunt character, i hope i can e1 too
@@hxnslshhax9011 Be cautious of E1. The potential is crazy high but it only works if the enemy target is ALONE (1) meaning if you're fighting against 2+ enemies (which is most of the time) it will not transfer that wasted damage to the main and that one adjacent target. By the time there's only one enemy left, the battle it's pretty much finished that's why it's only an E1
@@toan.2764 i mean if you are fighting 2 to 3 targets your damage is not wasted because it still hitting those targets un like e0 you damage is wasted because there is no adjacent targets.
@@hxnslshhax9011 yes i agree but that defeats the point of having E1 if you want her to be "The Hunt" since it's basically E0 all over again. So it's more like a bonus, not as cracked as you might think and you should reconsider E1 and maybe get another character instead ( i mean you can argue that any eidolon of any character is a bonus after all). Just a friendly reminder, F2P life is tough
@@toan.2764 Nice point you made there bud, I also thought about her E1 being strong but mediocre at the same time and also many players are getting overshadowed by the solo burst high damage potential output of her E1 to single-last enemy but just as you said; "By the time there's only one enemy left, the battle it's pretty much finished that's why it's only an E1."
really love that point u did make! i have a really strong blade and a really strong qingque. thats all i need for now to get moc done. fu xuan protects my quantum team while lynx protecs blade. fill the other spots with supports and be done. i still have to work on my herta and pela, so dont want to be stuck in the trace farming loop for now.
To all of us out there who will pull jingliu banner just because we want the best out of our qingque, I wish you good luck and may we all get the E6 we always dreamed of. Great vid as always btw!
I have her e6 since Luocha banner lol
Bad ending: I don't see 😔
smh I only see shit here
I don’t know about this one. And to be honest Clara can tank and also blow up planets. I think the lack of 5 star usage on your account doesn’t lend well to these videos. I do enjoy your 4 star content though.
Yeah I forgot about Clara in that line 😓
Nice video, i like how accurate is it. In terms of dps, we have one more powerfull than the other, but its the same old. I'm a husbando/waifu type, but i care about gameplay & styles too. And so far, i like/enjoy non dps units more tbh.
The wisdom of Sun Tzu never fails, I just HAVE to pull for Jingliu because Asian blindfolded mommy just does it for me. No matter how OP or weak she is.
Yeah just get her if you like her. Like me I pull Kafka since she is my favorite and the only reason I still playing HSR.
ive skipped kafka, jing yuan, blade and DHIL just to saved up for jingliu. i was going to skip fu xuan as well if not for my SW refused to apply quantum weakness to the enemies for 4-5 times in a rolls
While I agree with the sentiment that it's not a good idea to keep pulling characters all the time because you end up building your account horizontally, I don't see it being a big deal pulling on one of these DPS's even if you're good in the DPS department. Why I think that is because in the next banner, we're just getting another sustain and DPS. So, it's not like there's some useful buffer/debuffer we'll be missing out if we don't skip. We get so many jades from patch to patch that it's not gonna hurt your account getting yourself a new toy to play with, also if you have variety of different characters invested in it makes cavern of corrosion farming much much more efficient. A crappy relic for one character could end up being a god piece for another one of your characters
isn't the next sustain we're getting also a good buffer, though?
"Just another sustainer", yeah, can't wait to see if people can still say that after they see her kit 👀
@@derrickcheow6088 Well if the dreams about Huohuo are true, she's offering something that no other unit except Tingyun is offering. And, if the numbers are high enough, she might actually have a big impact on team rotations.
But yeah, 1.6 and beyond also seem promising in terms of enablers.
With all this knowledge, 1.4 just seems like an easy skip.
Imo Jingliu's banner has higher value for begginers than Topaz's/Seele's
With a little bit of luck they won't only start with with powerful 5* but also get a Tingyun who's argueably the best 4* in the game and Qingque who's also top tier DPS at E4+ with the strongest and rarest element in the game
03:54: Thats Kozo aka Yanqing. I only use him to keep jingliu's relic safe which is aeound 38% to 190% crit ratio, thats it.
Otherwise i think i build my bronya, luocha , gepard, tingyun, kafka, sampo, seele, and lynx well. So yeah, i need more dps, and ice mommy to boot. ;)
This is the first time I've actually had a hard time deciding if I should pull or not. My account absolutely does not need her, but she is the first character in this game I have felt any kind of attachment to.
then pull for her, go for characters you want, not what you need
Dawg. Do what I did. Shift ur account to fit Jinglius benefit. I'm doing it for Topaz. Pulled Clara so I can use Topaz with her and Lynx
@@ghostglitch5355I made a veryy hard decision, my mind was set on jingliu since 1.2 but in 1.2 I won my 50/50 to blade and Kafka then I said I'll 100% safe for jingliu and skip 1.4 but then again I pulled on imbitaor lunane and got him another 5050 now I was stuck between fu Xuan which is a sustain Character and jingliu a DPS I thought alot about it since I got 2 freaking beast DPS I don't need another I'll pull her on her rerun for now I pulled Fu Xuan 💀 now I'm left with 0 pulls
@@notiorieditz666 dawg 💀this was a SAGA 😭😭
then just pull. pulling for meta or efficiency is good but the fun doesnt last long. especially if you done with end game content already.
1:14 Did Lily just forgot Blade ?
Apparently yeah 😓
welp, I'm gonna skip 1.4 cause I want to gear my characters properly so missing a DPS or 2 won't affect much my account. Also, I'm more interested in the 1.5 characters like Huohuo and Argenti
I watched this video two times and listened carefully actually
But
There are a few things i want to discuss
First of all having a dps between blade , IL and seele and kafka and stuff is not a problem solver
You want to have two functional teams for moc
And also again as a new player that has been playing for almost a month now and got blade , my account has a lot of characters whom i havent spent any time on building them but still i have four characters that are fully built and im thinking that investing in a new dps and making my second team is gonna be a good choice for me
And also tingyun being on the banner adds a lot of value to the banner too as she is probably the best 4* sup in the game rn
And i dont even have her
Yeah jing liu is attractive but honestly i dont even care about it that much , not saying or implying that i dont care about her character and lore , i actually love her story so much
And i just honestly dont want topaz either i dont think her banner has that much value for my account other than topaz itself
Im emphasizing on the " my account" part
I just really think that having tingyun is gonna be a game changer
And i have saved a lot of wishes too and my jing liu is guaranteed and im gonna have lot of wishes even after getting her and getting tingyun (f2p) and im gonna save for later characters later on to see if someones gonna actually be a benefit to me
And also if you're a new player
Having shit artifacts and low traces is kinda ok
But yeah ig rushing it and getting every character that comes out is not logical either so take your time and maybe skip this one for better banners like seele or maybe some more sustain characters to maybe stabilize your team and keep your team alive as the only one you have may be natasha and though she can work but getting someone better (even lynx) may be a better thing to look out for rn
All im saying is that
You shouldn't just do the things everybody tells you go do blindly
Go think and actually make choices
Its alr to make wrong ones though we are all trying to avoid mistakes 👍
No one is a "Must Pull".
Who are you going to use as your ice dps then yanqing? Herta? Plus she has really good 4 stars on her banner
@@noice9193Why would you need another Dps when you've already beaten all the content in the game
pulling for supports is more valuable for you because they're future proof. Pulling for Dps units is more risky because of powercreep
Its that time of the month hug
Gonna be seeing a lot of these kins of vids again
Yes, the FOMO is real. It is very very difficult to not pull for waifu, especially one that checks all the other boxes except suitability in your current roster.
Good job pointing out there'll be rerun banner, now it will be up to the HSR to determine how fast we'll get her banner back.
My potential solution? Alt account, even if it may be a pain to maintain.
This whole video is a good point. That's an ideal I've just started taken to sustainability > dps which is why I've decided on huohuo > jingliu, but now that she's here... Ice is my worst element and destruction is my worst path...and I don't have blade or IL or jing yuan. I could use a 3rd dps.
What to do, what to do
1:08 strong damage dealer who can also tank? clara? blade?
Destruction 😂
Apparently I forgot those two have the same archetype, yeah 😓
I need replacement for jkng yuan so had to get her.
After i got DHIL i got to know such a big diff in power.
Respectfully…I’m already in love with this character. Also I need more dps characters cause Seele is the only good one that I’ve leveled into and I really don’t wanna start backtracking on all my characters again and again
You know, uts funny u mention artefacts.
Cause as I was farmin for Herta I somehow got the most CRACKED set of Ice Artefacts.
Plus, I don have any of the broken DPS (never felt the need to pull for them) so I am actually quite in need on one.
Also also I really want every 4 star on that banner. Almost have them all maxed out.
So Its really just the perfect storm for me.
I made a new account, got Gepard, focused on it, then got Lynx and built Pela. My team has good sustain with ice characters, saving jades for Jingliu in the next patch!
People like getting new toys but not taking care of them
Haha very true, only pull a unit of you intend to maximize their potential! It's far better to have 2 heavily invested DPSs then 10 half built ones. Having Silver Wolf helps with that though.
Fact!
Good point, I need DPS so im gonna Pull for her. And from the leaks for next next banner( i don't know which one), Ruan mei would be Ice Harmony so i think she would be very good addition for Jing Liu mono ice in the future
Ruan Mei focuses mainly on Weakness Breaking and attacking enemies who's Weaknesses have been broken. She increases Damage Dealt to those enemies along with some other useful benefits. She's universally good for any party not necessarily just Mono Ice tho :3
@@daedae16917 sweet cant wait!
I thought ruan mei was dead lol
@@johnd7760this is a honkai game, she probably will be
@@johnd7760 no.
I was looking through the banner to try and see the stats that i would be missing if i skipped Imbibitor Lunae. When I finished, I accidentally pressed the 10 pull summon button and got him. I didn't even want him and now that I have him, that means I won't get a guaranteed Jing Liu on her banner!!!! 😭 😭
As someone who has guaranteed, skill issue
I have Kafka but no other good dps nor sustain (fairly new and don't have Gepard or the dragon Loli.) Would you recommend me to keep going for fu xuan instead of saving for Jingliu?
As someone who started later, I'm seeing things the way you have just stated. I have some good characters that need work to be great. The only thing I'm looking at seriously with this banner is Seele because I lack quantum and having used her through supports I do like the way she plays. I don't really "need" anyone at this point, but there is that "oooh pretty" factor that is making me count jade LOL
Thanks for the video! I'll pick jingliu!
My problem is the i dont really have a good dps other then yanqing. A right choise woud be to wait for a more future proof character and maybe go for fu xuan E2 if im at it, but i still think i need another dps. Can i get a little advice if someone has a little time?
For me the 4 stars on jingliu banner are too good not to pull for since I main qq and tingyun, if I happen to pull jingliu that will just be bonus
I got Kafka the character i really wanted and while Fu Xuan, Jingliu and Topaz are great none of them super appeal to me the way Kafka did so im saving for now i guess 😂
I already use Herta, and I´m quite happy with her results... but I´m playing the waifu card here. Also Jingliu is a character that I loved since the first time she appeared in the story.
My only choice is topaz tbh, rather than building pity and ended up not getting jl, I'd better roll on topaz banner and e6 luka or guinafem for my kafka
I started game 10 days ago
Got fu in 30 pulls
I need dps right?nd jingliu first so i shld go for her rather than wait for more upcoming dps
Nd i have invested in qq so might get her eidolons as well nd tingyun too so i shld go for her ryt?
I have JY and SW as my only limiteds. These banner would surely make my acc comfier
I want c4 QQ and I'm one away. Jingliu might not be necessary, but I definitely won't complain if I get her early
Lol thanks for the video ❤
The only regents I have is not pulling for kafka and luocha 🕳️🚶 i have bronya and fu xuan and need a good dps character so I still don’t know if she would work well for my team
Nobody can convince me not to pull jing lu. Well yeah I agree with you topaz might helps and seems very future proof because of follow up damage bonus for Follow up dps but if you like something there is nothing better infront of that perticular thing and also I don't have a ice dps in my team and i really don't like herta so it's a win win for me to pull her banner.
but topaz is hunt path. at the moment hunt path is difficult for the content, because a lot of adds are in the fight. see swarm. i have probs with my seele there. so i decided to gor for icedestruction =)
yeah i roll what i like if it good even better but i dont care about class in team of the characters i roll that why i still dont have healer or erudation character XD
If the argument is about which character is more future proof, you can just wait for another Topaz rerun in the "Future". Ideally you'll want at least one decent DPS in every element to easily clear hard content and since we currently don't have an actual good ice DPS, so Jing Liu will be very valuable
@@insect2424 or just pull silver wolf and seele and use them on everything easy XD i litellary clear all game content with these two ( having 1 good dps on every element is crazy if you ask me and it will take long time
@@insect2424 thats exactly the way i did in genshin. one great build maxed out main DD from every element. but for me i want to try my first destruction character, so jingliu is a big need for me. of course everyone can have different opinion. and you are right. reruns coming, so no missing of anything. just need to be patient ^^
People need to really consider when reruns drop. Waiting for Jingliu's rerun to pull for her isnt a great idea because who knows what banners will be dropping alongside her future rerun. Its a lot more to consider at that time than now.
Yeah.. especially we havent any information about the rerun banner will be permament or occasionally.
Probably that 2nd version.
@@mirage6335there will always he reruns
I dnt think they will regreat waiting if they have 2 strong dps already dnt forget harmony 5 stars are near and we have none yet plus huohuo potential
We'll have raiden mei wrecking the havoc by then
I love how pepole say she is a must pull becuase she will powercreep yanqing or something (which is true ) but that the same reason why I am not pulling for her since she is kinda yanqing but aoe and better
I think the closest similarity she has to yanqing is they’re both ice tho… totally different playstyles
I still prefer yanquing honestly, mine does crazy dmg so I dont need her
True, they even copied the extra crit Yanqing has in his ult and slapped it into her enhanced state.
Even her ascension2 and ascension4 traces are just yanqing's ascension4 and ascension6 traces.
They truly said "let me copy your homework but give it fancier animations so that it's not that obvious" lol
I literally rerolled a new account for her because my main didn’t have Bronya, let’s see if those four hours were worth it for twice as much fun
01:00 Blade sobbing rn.
I startad this week and i got fu, i have NO DPS, sad that i miss on dan IL. How worth is she compared to him ? should i wait a rerun instead?
If you pull for guinafen then prepere cash for kafka rerun banner. Because she will be one of top characters.
Eventually just wait for next thunder users if you dont like it arlan maybe is only one of destruction thunder but is not the strongest unit.
Even serval e6 is enough strong to be equal of the power with arlan.
My plan is simple:
2 hunters why 2 reason is simple first they have a lot of synergy because they are SP neutral or sp positive characters. So overall [ 2 cards max] you need to get.
Dont worry one from banner and one from herta is enough.
How to should check out which one hunter will be fit for you?
By effects and versality.
Example Seele have extra turn and is one of the best quantum type. After QQ atm ofcourse.
Topaz has extra follow atk which is better then hook and allow make him as support sp positive for dps which requirement spend more Sp.
And is top 2 by the fire dps.
1 erudition
if you have more then good for you you can only exchange a card and build a stuff for next dps.
1 nihility dps 1 card per path.
You can get her from extra shop or herta shop.
Not have to search on the banners.
However if you get LC of jingyuan then you are in perfect way because that is the best lc for all of them.
Thanks for extra crit dmg.
Others treat as only dot enabler. So 4 star is enough.
Harmony the most important but also annoying for build by the gaining cards.
1 from future herta shop and 1 from extra shop for your hypercarries characters.
Abundance defensive support which requirement also 1 card from extra shop.
Idk it will be possible to obtain from herta card but if not you have to invest into banner. Minimum 1.
Why because always we put max 2 healers in the squad whats that mean you no need more then 2 healers.
Bailu is your best friend and has 80% chance to be in the future your first e6 healer.
The last one you can gain from extra banner.
Preservation well he is easier then you think.
Herta card + extra banner dont worry invest it only if you get rerun . But if you didnt want spend so much time of itnjust give them 4 star card.
Max 2 in squad.
And last one destruction path.
So according to what we can obtain herta card is collected for ice imaginary and quantum type users.
And extra shop doesnt offer the card so you have to give them from extra banner.
Also max 2 for the squad.
Now question is why? Because destruction is trought always one per squad.
Some of them put 2 destructions in the one team but its really worth it? Not really. Its just waste of resources and time.
If you are whale you wont be care about that stuff. Ofcourse you can put 4 star cards sure but dont forget the more you invest for your dps the more effects you obtain.
Reason why i choose like that idea because limited resources if you see closely how many times we spend of farming aethers you see the limits of spending it. Especially when we gonna invest into powerfull cards.
Economy is a key to the gain profits with proper prosperity you obtain that what you wish for time for farm kits and less grind of unnessesery things.
And I guess thats it.
I just hope Blade doesnt follow Selee im not going to be ready for that
@@joshfullbright7678you mean blade getting powercrept? He will you can't avoid that but Blade will always good as sub dps just like topaz even tho blade does not have built in buffs support like topaz does but trust me blade is always good for any double dps teamcomps. Slowly but surely double dps meta will rise soon and blade will always good in any team comps no matter what.
@@swifty3290 nah I mean Jade wise, I didnt get him on first run, Im spending everything on Jinglius banner.
I don't think it's possible to get many character at a rapid pace is possible for f2p when we mentions possibility of losing 50/50 and time to save up and such . I consider myself very lucky to get my hand on all the limited character in the first 2 patches without spending and i'm still be able to clear moc fine .
The reason people get shit gear is all because poor power investment imo.
All you need to do are not spam only one domain to upgrade your 80% seele, instead try to upgrade artifacts of others characters and trying farming domain that can help you build many characters in the early game . But not every gatcha players play like that , you likely gonna see people leveling all characters that they had to 80 , don't build 4* or just invest to niche characters that they liked .
That is in fact true, since you can clear MoC with just F2P characters, but most players are spreading their materials on to many different characters and making them mediocre instead of good/well build.
i have been saving from phase 1 ,1.3 and i have IL i wanted jingliu but now my minds a mess
I still don't have FX. If I lose the 50/50 I'm gonna go for Topaz cause I need fire dps coverage (And I don't wanna build Hook)
I 30 starred MOC 10 w/ a lvl 71 e6 herta as my sub dps, sometimes it’s not worth rolling on every banner
Jingliu banner is way better for new player. Two of the best four star in The game and my pal sampo 😊
I won the 25/75 with futa so now I’m only pull on jingliu banner for tingyun
I went hard on the banners for this cycle and while I got Dan, I failed with Fu. My 50-50 was won by Welt so I went deep for her guaranteed pull.
So I might skip next cycle so I have resources for the next world units as Penacony sounds interesting as it was at a point a prision planet before getting overtaken by the Harmony blessing
I'm not worried about ice queen, my worry, the free 4* selection I'm mostly worried about cause Im not warping yet, and I would want pela but there's no LC for her in shop so its between sampo and hook... just hit tl 50
Pick Pela she's the only who's Worthy in that Selector 🤣😂
I see where you're coming from in this video. Those who already have two or more limited 5* dps can safely skip the next banners. Even Topaz could be more worthwhile. Especially for Kafka mains since it has Guinaifen and Luka. For me however I only have Seele as limited DPS, since I lost to Blade and skipped Kafka. I also decided Fu Xuan over DHIL at the last minute, which I don't regret (despite having Luocha and Gepard already). For me Jingliu is mega value and I just hope she's close in power level to DHIL. Obv I don't expect her multipliers to be the same since he uses so many more skill points, but if she's a mid point between him and Blade I'll be happy. After that I think i might wait for Blade's rerun of nothing juicy comes out of left field.
I only have Welt as 5* and missed the Kafka Banner but she is my Waifu. Would you recommend me to still pull for Giunaifen even when i don't have Kafka yet?
@@Angels-Grace Hmm. Pulling for 4 stars is always kind of risky. If you have no interest in Topaz, even if she came home early then I would probably hold out. It's possible Guinaifen's first rerun will be on Kafka's first rerun banner. They did put a lot of DoT units on it the first time. After this banner she'll be added to the standard pool (and off pulls on limited banners) as well, though the chances of getting her are low. If you really like her then the risk might be worth it, but maybe wait a few days to see what people actually say about her with Kafka after testing.
To be honest in playing her with my friend who have Jingliu with 226 Crit DMG She doesn't suit in my playstyle and her dmg was not near to Dan Heng IL. Maybe i will wait another good and reliable character who have mix role similar to Fuxuan.
3:57 this is why better build utility unit abundance/preservation as sustain
and Nihility or Harmony.
Nihility debuffer but u can build dmg🤣 like welt(u don't see big dmg but they still deal decent dmg and debuff too)
Harmony buffer but u can build tank
🤣 Like bronya ( not tanky as preservation and abundance but at least they can sustain getting one/2 shot and top of that build dmg is not worth like extra 10% dmg? )
Imagine 2 job and don't worry about powercreep
I agree with you hoping they change the "Meta" and we kinda in Imaginary+quantum meta(like MOC and SD)and we don't see any crazy boss with ice weakness except the deer!
Any way i need another good dps for forgotten hall Only my IL is carry for my whole roster
Im not gonna pull waifu card I got seela at star of the game and when i saw Jingliu on jingyuan banner i said to myself wow thats great design i like ice blades characters i did main Meryl in tof , Eula in genshin and now im going for Jingliu not because of waifu material but bc i love her estetic she can be below Jingyuan in terms of dmg i dont care for me its all about playing characters i like. I did skip all baners after getting seela so my account needs 2 dps for forgoten hall so its perfect for me
Pls someone what's the song's name from from the background
I want her for a ice dps i got dan heng dragon form but with much energy cost i can't use much my team
I dont need her but i must pull the banner :"), my tingyun still E0 and QQ E3 (close to E4). The 4* are too good to be skip
Jingliu powercreeps the absolute heck out of Yanqing in terms of pure Ice DPS that's for sure. However, that does mean if one has already built Yanqing and also has the mandated Gepard support, then they should not pull for Jingliu because they'd waste all their resources already spent on Yanqing, plus Gepard doesn't work with Jingliu too.
The big thing is that Jingliu might be a Destruction for the bulk and the Blast AoE on her skill/ultimate, but in practice she's more like a Hunt, hence why she outright powercreeps Yanqing.
It's same like Kafka you need to build her team.
@@yoiko89 Well yeah, you have to center the team around Jingliu. This means running some extra HP pieces on your supports to ensure they can stay alive despite the drain, even if you factor in Luocha (and own him, obviously).
Damn Sun Tzu dropping barz
Jing Liu is waifu for me, but after pulling Fu Xuan and her light come i realized the exact same thing you said in the video, too many characters with shit gear and it's highly unsatisfying. I'll be skiiping 1.4 all the way to 2nd banner of 1.6. Then I'll consider whom to pull for.
Omg she is the Ganyu of Honkai Star Rail, that ice flower reminded me of her
I have seela, jing yuan, and ILHeng but still Pulling for Jing liu🥰
i will pull for her cuz i have zero dps t5(i started playing this month) i got fuxuan and im on 50/50. i wasnt going to pull limited dps cuz it takes the fun away, but a friend of mine is begging me. so i will do it with a grain of salt. hope i lose the 5050 xD
My account's pretty well blanced, save for a support (blame SIlver wolf throwing a Gepard at me), so I'll probably save for Argenti or SW's rerun (probably the same banner tho 💀)
Same.
Unfortunately I skipped every single banner in the game just to roll for Fu Xuan. So I don’t have an AOE DPS and there’s only so much Seele can do.
I already got Jing yuan, Blade, DH IL and guaranteed Jingliu 😎
I only have blade for nuke, I need her as a iced nuke on my team along with March7.
5 months?? Holy moly
I am honestly only here for Jingliu because I really like her design. I don't play Star Rail at all but I just really want her
i just want ice dps and all destruction have been good so far. the true reason not to pull is just been f2p and all banners being of dps characters
I know i should skip and pull for future supports, but the marketing is having its effect 😂 Saving for huo huo will be worth it though
I have to watch this video everyday. I must resist
Jingliu well come back one day, NGL she looks a lot like Eula
If you have blade he synergies really really well with blades hp drain idea
Even another 4 star character who can reduce HP and pair them with Fuxuan.
Im pulling for Jing Liu so i can start doing QingQuellion damage and Phantingyun support.
I would say for waifu: People gonna pull, but if you have Yanqing and use Welt Gepard or at Least March and MC with Him or are one of the People who main Kuru Kuru and Enjoy her. You don't need her.
You dont need any characters litellary game is easy XD but point of gacha is to sell
I have both Yanging e1 and his LC and i'm still gonna pull for Jingliu and her LC
bro reduced her to 'kuru kuru' 😭
Me, with e2 midqing, who will pull only for the 4* since Tin is elusive af: interesting..
I'm confused
Why i hear this in Himeko's voice 😂
I really need an ice dps cos well.... March and Pela hardly fits.
I suddenly become blind and lost my hearing when I watch this vid
Lily casually pulled Change of Heart
jing liu is strong but Topaz is better for my account and I don't really want anyone else till Hanya and then I want both Ruan Mei and Hanabi. Hanabi would so good for my QQ . And we will also get screwllum. I want the 1.6 banner honestly but I will probably have to shell some money
I kind want 1 strong waifu dps per element, so ima get her
i pull luka and lynx cuz i think i need them and i still haven't build them and my acc is just fine
I’m already having reasons for survivability issues. I don’t need another.
Boom! nice video
I don't really want Topaz since my Clara is fully built and doing amazing without her already and my E2 Himeko is destroying on her own with my E6 Asta.
Man I felt attacked 😂 but I skipped for this reason to fix my account
lmao the way the AI says SHIT GEAR really drives the point home
Im pulling because my only dps is seele and i cant stand hearing about the sea of butterflies anymore
no character is a must pull, but she is beautiful, so i want her =) my team with fu xuan, march, pela and then jingliu is prepared ^^
You can easily skip topaz as there are other units that buff like she does but for everything and not just follow ups. Imo jl is a must pull due to the amount of single and aoe dmg she does. Her lc is incredibly cracked too. Might just have to get that as well
Which character buffs follow up ? Which dps actually buffs follow ups ?
@@djay00009 Topaz the new character