G-Rex Saurus Nonsense. There was plenty of trade. Sardinia doesn’t exist in a vacuum. Their very civilisation relied on tin coming in from outside. Trade was a necessity of life
@@PeteKellyHistory Plenty of trade compared to what? Not to the contact Egypt had with Greece or Anatolia. In theory there was trade with Scandinavia too even if very indirectly, were there Bronze Age Vikings among Sea peoples too?
@Atheos B. Sapien I read his book, there is no real evidence of Sardinians having been in Egypt, it's simply empty speculation based on names we can't even properly chronologically and spatially place anywhere during the 12th century.
@@g-rexsaurus794 It's speculation but far from empty since the evidence in general is relatively sparse. The size of the Sea Peoples raiding parties and their ethnic composition probably varied greatly in time and space. The Mediterranean would have been a hell of a lot easier for Nuragic people (and others of course) to cross than the land mass between Scandinavia and The Mediterranean. Here we have a people certainly capable of navigating the Mediterranean and tapping into the trade networks without a name and then a name without a people as well as some evidence based on the similarity of dress. True, the evidence is relatively flimsy but if we are to reject everything from this period that isn't 100 % solid we are going have to throw out much else besides. There simply isn't enough evidence yet to say for certain. I'm inclined to believe there is a connection and you're inclined to believe there isn't based on the same evidence. I think far more archaeological and historical research will have to be done before we can really get far beyond personal preferences.
Agreed... I honestly want to plan a trip there (once Americans are permitted to travel to Europe again) and explore the area. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe!
Sadly all the scholarship comes from either us ourselves from the island or sometimes from the germans. Mainland italy in particular seems to neglect our history a lot
In the Bible Lands Museum in Jerusalem, there is an adorable little ancient Sardinian bronze sculpture of a tiny boat in which are miniature figures of a mouse, a monkey, a cat and a fox (I think I’m remembering correctly). The Bronze Age Sardinians evidently had a sense of fun as well as being sensationally skilled metalworkers.
Oh interesting, I haven't seen a photo of that but I'll see if I can find it online. Thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it. More to come soon, stay safe!
There are huge of bronze ships figurines, mostly in Sardinia but also at the British Museum, as much as at Louvre, or New York Metropolitan Museum and even in Saint Peterborough. Please stop illegal trafic and give them the role they're worth. Sardinian were and are big sailors. They're unknown, but they aren't to great archaeologists. When they come and se e most of them say they have to get back to their previous studies. You all are welcome
@@orni60 se per quello al britsh museum ci sono gli ori di tharros, un vero e proprio mercimonio degno dei peggiori tombaroli, visto che avvenuto con il beneplacito di chi all'epoca portava avanti la soprintendenza cagliaritana. lasciamo perdere perchè se ci pensi ti viene solo il nervoso!
My pleasure, glad you liked the video... I really want to visit Sardinia to see these after once we in the US are allowed to travel again. More to come, stay safe and thanks for stopping by!
Chaotic collapse in the east due to sea raiders with horned helmets similar to the ones on Sardinian figurines, all while life carries on 'as normal' in Sardinia and even starts to somehow improve and become more prosperous. Mmm...sounds pretty suspicious to me... Edit: And as soon as I saw the pictures of their towers in this vid, they reminded me of grain silos straight away, so I'm not surprised that others think that they actually were fortified silos of sorts.
Wel, when you visit one. You will see that there is not a lot of room to store grain. There is a passage going around the tower that brings you to the top.
@@GiancarloIdiliThey are obviously dwellings of local powerful families, similar to the stone towers of Chechen "teips" doting all around the Caucausus.
As Sardinian I'm very proud of my origins, especially for nuragic civilization. Great video, it's an accurate introduction for all the people who want to discover this amazing prehistoric civilization
The part where you say “reportedly without resistance from the local population” isn’t completely true, after the Carthaginians surrendered Sardinia to the Romans, the Nuragic tribes in the interior of the Island (Ilienses, Balares and Corsicans) rebelled for at least other 100 years (some important rebellions were in 225, 177, 126 and 111) with them being known as Civitates Barbariae (Barbaric civilizations) from which descends the name Barbaja (the central region of the Island).
Achille Nero it’s a fact that the name “Barbaja” was given by the Romans, they were the ones to call Nuragics “civitates Barbariae”, and the name Barbaja comes from Latin: “barbaria”, as again the name barbarian also existed in Latin, as “barbarus” (this is again a fact). I don’t know why you’re so eager to prove this wrong, according to you, who gave the name Barbaja? and why didn’t the Romans give the name Barbaja? I want to know your theory.
@@marchesadigroenlandia3487 of course, after you edit your initial post, we totally agree about everything. the Greeks generated the barbarian meaning, after they passed it to the Romans, and therefore they referred to the Sardinians, or part of that territory(barbaja, as you pointed out) with that name. It s ok. I have no complains about that. And no strange theory about, just history.
Interesting. Otzi "the ice man" who lived around 3300 BCE and who's body was found in a melting glacier in the Alps has DNA that connects him to these peoples.
at the time (Neolithic) and before any INDO-EUROPEAN input, there was majoritarily that kind of DNA in Europe, so it is more of a question of Sardinians preserving the DNA similar to neolithic europeans (due to isolation) than Otzi and other neolithic people being from Sardinia or Corsica
we’re all connected. it only takes a few native pre indoeuropeans to mate with the invaders, for their genes to come down to us, hence my 210 Neanderthal variants...
At first glance the nuraghi remindet me of castles from the Middle ages,multi purpose buildings . Thank you for this interessting video,would like to hear more about this culture.
Thank YOU for stopping by, really appreciate it! Yeah, I might revisit them again in the context of other videos on the ancient Mediterranean. Thanks again, stay safe!
I think that's the safest assumption, especially considering larger nuraghes had a whole village around it and many were built alongside places of governance and religious devotion (see the santa Cristina well, which is ten steps from a probable city hall and fifty from a nuraghe)
Glad you liked it... I'll probably touch up more on them in other programs on the ancient Mediterranean. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it...stay safe!
How the heck I knew about, say, the Mississippi Civilization for decades but hear about the Nuraghi for the first time? Thank you so much for this really enlightening video!
As a Sardinian i thank you for this video, it’s sad that we don’t study our own culture that much in school, but im happy that somebody spread our culture
Cy I really do like all of the last five episodes I've seen you still amaze me how great you put out a lot of the product nothing but facts you are a good man I appreciate that
The pleasure's mine, love putting these out for all of you. The last five, especially the Phoenician one, were a lot of fun to make. If you have any requests, let me know! Thanks again, stay safe!
Apparently, ancient Sardinians did leave some written documents (like the stone of Teti and the Nora stele), they were written in a semitic type of writing, similar to phoenician/punic, though not quite the same
I have some books with wonderful photos of Sardinia and Corsica. This is great history/theories on ancient sites. It would be great to explore the Mediterranean islands.💚
Yeah I definitely want to do that in the near future, hopefully soon after the travel ban (for us in the US) is lifted. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it. Stay safe!
I've tried to look up the history of Sardinia myself with little results been interested in aincent Sardinia since I've learned about the sea people's and the possible involvement of the aincent people that lived there, you video was very informational on the subject.
Hi Chris, look up Shardana, the sea people.. Ramses had them as bodyguards.. It is believed that Shardana were the only people before the Romans to invade ancient Egypt..
@@HistorywithCy Yo you responded you're so amazing! Now that I've got your atention I will recommend some history for your quarantine. The Cañari (one of the last resistance groups against the Incas) are very well documented specially by historian Gonzales Suarez. There's also the Tolita which were the first recorded civilization to work with platinum (My aunt was part of the first archeological expedition back in 1979). And finally the Caranqui-Cochasquí confederation which remained independent even during the presence of the Incas and Spaniards Anyways, hope you stay safe ✌ and thanks for making such complete content for us.
Haha interesting discussion you're all having here. Steppes peoples for sure (Scythians in the next few weeks), Bronze Age Scandinavia I'll look into. I do agree with Alexandros that there are several such videos out there but if I do one, I'll try to add something extra into it. Thanks for the suggestions, really appreciate the enthusiasm for this stuff. Stay safe you all!
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@Aléxandros ho Mégas The problem is that few of these peoples had writing. They left behind very interesting artifacts, however. Ironically, the "ancient alien" people have created and posted the most extensive online materials about them. I find it ironic because these people seem to think that we are descended from incompetent fools who could not, in their view, possibly have created these ancient monuments. Even more bizarrely, these alleged aliens left behind nothing that was not made out of earth rocks. Look around your house - it is full of modern materials like stainless steel, plastics, copper wires, very flat glass, and complex materials that comprise transistors and electronic circuits, as well as internal combustion engines, electric engines, televisions, computers.... Light bulbs have tungsten in them....Ancient alien BS is transparently absurd.
Pretty interesting how an increase in population in the Iron Age came at the same time as a decrease in nuraghe construction. The first thing that comes to mind (although in context, unlikely) is a peaceful migration of a foreign people into Sardinia around the Bronze Age Collapse, that both increased the population and brought its own culture which overshadowed the original one, so there were less nuraghes built. (as we can see from their multi-purpose functionality, the nuraghes were specifically an element of Nuragic culture, rather than just the easiest way to make a fortress/central building with the resources available there) One other thing that I still want to know about the the Nuragic civilization is what their language was. Now, of course, without written records everything is a speculation, but if they did originate from the Bell Beaker culture I'd expect their language to be Indo-European - but that still leaves tons of questions. The most probable options are Italic, Celtic, or its own branch (if you exclude the possibility that there was a population on the island speaking a non-IE language that got adopted by the Nuragic migrants). If it is its own branch though, maybe it's worth revisiting whatever records we have of the Sardinia-based Romance languages (or just plain Latin) and looking for loanwords from Nuragic? (and then trying to trace back the loanwords to PIE via its own route rather than the Italic one)
There have been many theories on the nuragic/paleo Sardinian language, some linguists think it may have been a pre-IE language, either related to Iberian and Basque, or to Berber, to the Pre IE languages of Southern Italy, to the Pre IE languages of the Balkans and of the Eagean. Other believe it was a IE language either related to the Italic languages of Italy, or to the Anatolic languages of Anatolia, to Illyrian, to Mycenaean or to a para-Celtic language (e.g. Ligurian). Some linguists propose a language with 6 substratum layers or three different nuragic languages (the northern one would have been Ligurian, the central-northern one a IE language from Iberia and the last one a pre IE language, related to Berber or Minoan languages). Some non-Latin Sardinian words are: Óspile= a shady place Bette= big/lots Bitti/Bette/Bitta= juvenile deer Saccayu= lamb Bittara= female Mouflon Marracocco (not sure if this is non-Latin tho)= apricot Múvara/Muvra/múvura= mouflon Tilipirke= grasshopper Tzìntzula=mosquito Tzilingrone=worm Yàcaru/Jàgaru/Zàcaru= dog/ Sardinian dogo.
To add to all the other answers, some people think have enough evidence to say that it was of the same family of Etruscan - the Sardinian professor 'Pittau' was especially convinced of this idea and maybe he was the biggest pioneer of the idea too -, on top of the similarities in the two cultures; also, the Etruscans were maybe considered part of the sea people by the Egyptians (Shardana=Sardinia, Tekeresh=Etruscans), and if I recall correctly, the Etruscans were also identified with the name Sardis, Sardki and Sari. There are still many words that are supposedly from Nuragic (i.e. unknown etymology and not from Latin) and the majority of them are names for plants and villages, geographical areas and animals, some: groddhe=fox(in some towns) many names for insects like tilipirke= grasshopper tilikerta= lizard tiligugu= snail without its cover xD, but in some towns can also mean a kind of lizard( scientists chose iy even as the official 'latin' name for the lizard only found in sardinian) antunna=mushroom also tarantula=gecko allegedly nikele= 'thing' (but also said to derive from latin NICIL) From this you can see that tili- and ta- or tu- could have been some sort of marker, maybe the definite article in Nuragic like 'the' in english, which iirc exists also in Etruscan. Allegedly the way they marked the plural of nouns was by adding an -r at the end, and you can find this (again, allegedly) in names like the city of Nuoro( Nugor /'nugor(o)/ in the sardinian of the city), where the final -r marks the plural of some word like 'Nugo', iirc in Etruscan the plural is made by adding -ar or -ur to the name. Also 'nur' in the name nuraghe /nu'rage/ and nurache /nu'rake/ is said to have meant something like 'rocks' and 'pile of rocks'
@@marchesadigroenlandia3487 Perfect answer but I should add that Sardinian 'bette' has also a Latin etymology xD, from vectis /'wektis/ which meant something like 'pole' or 'big stick', which goes hand in hand with 'meta/meda' which also meant big stick in Latin
It’s fun seeing more people interested in this ancient culture. Several years back, as a kid, I did a lot of research on them for an admittedly embarrassing reason: I was very interested in the Night At The Museum franchise, and wanted to make my own original character, whom was from the Nuragic civilization. Every now and again it peaks my interest once more and I return to look up more
I like finding out about different cultures other than the more famous ones, like Greece Rome, Egypt etc.. The less known civilizations are just as cool and interesting
Mamuthones and issohadores have always fascinated me. Maybe you could do an in-depth vid about them (if you haven't already. My first visit here via HT recommend). *Sardinian culture puts me in mind of the Basques for some reason.
Such an interesting video as always, didn't know anything about them and this interesting structures, only knew that they were part of Sea Peoples invasion
Genetic testing has shown that Sardinians are almost completely identical to the first farmers which spread the technology into Europe from the Levant. So maybe, the Nhuragic civilization could have been Semitic - that can explain their hypothesised involvement in the Sea People's raids and Carthiginian society, since they could communicate on a greater level and possessed similar cultures.
Sardinians are not really almost identical to them, Sardinians have plenty of western hunter gatherer, some indo-european and some MENA ancestry, they are about 75-80% ENF though. Also there is no reason to believe they were Semitic, no attested Semitic population was mostly ENF, they were a mix of Neolithic Levant, Neolithic Iran and Neolithic Anatolian(ENF), quite different. Also the participation of Sardinia in the sea people stuff is completely speculative and unlikely given the distances involved.
@@g-rexsaurus794 Thank you for the response and clarification, although I don't think a drop from 95% Neolithic Farmer to 80% changes much. I was simply speculating using the information I had from Survive the Jive haha. Thank you once again.
Another wonderful introduction to an ancient civilization. I learn so much from your channel. Before today when I heard Sardinia I only thought about the Monty python hide-and-seek sketch.
Lol oh that's funny, I don't remember that sketch... maybe it's on TH-cam, I'll try to find it. Thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it...more to come soon, stay tuned!
And I want to say thank you for you have covered all the subjects I requested my hat's off to you and God bless you I put them all in my best category the vault
Thanks so much for the kind words and feedback, I'm thrilled that you are so into this stuff. Honestly, it also motivates me to put more out more often for you all. More to come, stay safe!
Another winner Cy! Really enjoyed your video. I could listen to you speak about history forever! Your presentations are always interesting and I always learn something I didn't know before! I think I really would have liked these ancient people. Thanks again Cy, big hugs from Washington! 👇🌟👏
Hi Blue, great to her from you! Yeah, I think I would have liked them too... hanging out along the shore, hopping from island to island, building nurgahis. Hope y'all are safe in up there. Our cases have been going up and our county is on lockdown once again but we're OK. Stay safe my friend!
Since i'm from Sardinia i can answer to you. (And sorry for my bad english) At first almost any village especially in the central part have some of this stuff (nuraghes, or monolith like Stonehenge) So i'am very proud of my ancestor because they could fight powers like Romans and Phoenician (maybe were helped by nuraghes and from terrain that is still very bad today, cause a lot of woods and mountain.) Then many legends related Sardinia at Atlantis, the legendary continent over the Hercules's columns (the strait of Gibilterra) since the greeks often identifies The "Hercules's columns" with the strait of Sicily. Unfortunatly the Ancient shardana and nuraghi's peopole didn't know how to write so we lost their culture, their view of thinking ecc... But religion maybe be animist, and many rituals can still be preserved thanks to syncretism with the catholocism For example during the day of Saint.Anthony (on january) we burn a large fire and many young peopole try to take on the top of that fire a prize. Maybe this ritual was performed ,during the nuraghi's era, for good omen or to have good harvest. At last i can say: we speak a language quite different from Italian (Sardinia is a part of Italy) but is similar to latin maybe only few words are related to the nuraghi's language (like the sound 'ur' and sound 'or' present in many names of cities, near the nuraghi's areas like Nuoro, Orune, Orani, Urzulei, Orgosolo ecc...) Also the people, are not related as much with indo-europeans. Many Gentics studies show (especially in the central areas) how sardinians are similiar to Basque than the italians of the penisula.
I'm Sardinian too, sadly we lost most of that culture probably, because the Romans have conquered the Sardinia for more than a millennium (sardinian is also the romance language more similar to rustic and classical Latin) so the rites that we have have probably little to no connection to the nuragic culture, We have many structures and necropolis and some roots in some of the words (mostly in the Sardinian dialects of the interior). Still our island is beautiful with many archaeological sites of various epochs within the span of millennia, we have sandy and rocky beaches and a huge WWF protected area (Oasi di Monte Arcosu) surely there is plenty to see here, and also a very small population (1.6 million people in the entire Sardinia) that makes it more easy to manage the social distancing
P.S. one others strange thing that we have is that the far North of Sardinia (Gallura) has a completely different language from the Sardinian language, wich is more related with Italian and other italian dialects and languages (we also talk obviously Italian in all Sardinia), And also the "Giudicale" epoch in Sardinia is very interesting, with stories about the slaughter of Sardinian representatives on behalf of the Italian king of that period. And also the more recent history is interesting with the story of Antonio Gramsci , surely in history we are a rebellious bunch of people 😂😂😂
The theory that nuraghi had multiple purposes makes sense, just in terms of practicality. The Native American Cahokia settlement (I know the cultures are unrelated) had many earthen mounds built for purposes including fortifications, burials, trash heaps, etc.
So glad you are going to talk about the Sardian civilisation. It's unfortunate that, despite the surpsising longevity of this ancient culture, we still know so little about them. Their language still survived in some ways. Even tho it became increasingly italianized. Many sardian words are still very alien to the mainland language of Italy. Btw. I personally believe that the nuraghi were multipurpose buildings. Basically fortified cities. Something not so different from what michenean fortified cities were.
Yeah I would love to study the language ... I can understand a good deal of written Italian due to knowing Portuguese and Spanish, should be interesting to see how different the Sardinian dialect is. I also think that they were some sort of multipurpose small castle structure where important items such as weapons and foodstuffs were stored and perhaps also where elites sought shelter, but honestly that's just a guess based on my limited knowledge. Anyway, thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it. I hope that all is well in your part of Italy. I remember when we were talking about the health situation there a few months ago...looks like we've switched with you all since I hear that you all really came together to limit this outbreak whereas it gets worse for us every day. Stay safe my friend, this too shall pass!
@@HistorywithCy Yeah. Thanks to the efforts of our regional governer, the pandemy is disappearing just as fast as it came in. Some people still use masks, gloves, and gel, wich is good. But since the cases of infection are becoming more rare than before, the population is getting better. The government is still doing some dumb stuff. Like, opening the ports to let the migrants come in... I mean... Were are you gonna house them? We are in the middle of a pandemy, why are you allowing potentially infected foreiners to come in without any sort of precautions? Whatever... I am sorry for the situation in the USA. I do hope that, by realising how big of a mistake the decision of your government was, you all will get back on your feet and take the situation at hand I hope you all get better.
@@HistorywithCy It's very weird that. Despite the longevity of this civilisation and the direct contact with cultures such as the Greeks and the Romans, no one seem to have written anything about them. The romans wrote extensively about forein cultures, such as the Celts. So I am really confused by the lack of direct accounts of the Sardinian culture.
In the biblical story of Jonah, when Jonah sets sail from Joppa in a boat, some believe that his destination was Sardinia, which is written as Tarchish in the Bible. There is still debate on this matter.
Oh interesting, I didn't know that. Hmmm, I wonder why Sardinia and not say Cyprus, Crete or Sicily which would have been much closer. Interesting indeed... As always, thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate all of your continued support of the channel...hope all is well on your end and stay safe!
History with Cy I am not sure, but you did mention the Phoenicians were traveling to Sardinia, and the Israelites and Phoenicians had close relations. The story also mentions Nineveh as being the place Jonah must go and preach to, warning them to repent before God wipes them out (a recurring theme in the Bible). But presumably this story was written during a time when Nineveh was prominent, and seafaring had become more commonplace thanks to the Phoenicians, perhaps around the 9th and 8th centuries BCE.
Tarshish is the same as Tartessos, i.e. later Turdetania or Baetica. Solomon also dealt with Tarshish as partner of the Phoenicians but the best description is given by Phocaean Greeks (the ones who founded Marseilles and all Western Greek colonies) in their narration of a unique diplomatic visit to King Argantonios. Their description is unmistakable and Tartessos should be approx. where now is Seville, which was then at the mouth of the river Betis (Guadlquivir) and all the land between there and the Ocean was a lagoon (Ligustine Lagoon, now swampy crop fields). Per the Phocaean narration Argantonios wanted the Greek visitors to stay but when they declined, he gave them a massive gift of silver so they could reinforced the walls of Phocae against the expected Lydian invasion. Some time later Gadir may have destroyed the city (unclear on lack of sufficient archaeological evidence).
Really fascinating! I'd be interested to hear what elements of castles these fortresses did or did not have, since it looks like they have crenelations!
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it and glad that you liked the video! Actually I have some stuff on Mari... This one is an older one but the info is still good: th-cam.com/video/S-a8BYm_Gm4/w-d-xo.html Also, a lot about Mari under Zimri-Lim in this video on Hammurabi: th-cam.com/video/oOLcEqQ6T5g/w-d-xo.html Any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask. Thanks again, stay safe!
Apparently there is a wide strip right across the middle of Sardinia running from north to south,coast to coast that has no remnants of the nuraghic civilsation where as they are present everywhere else -there is a theory that a great cataclysmic tsunami swept through the island and swept away all the nuraghi in that area.
We wanted to go to Sardinia this year to specificaly look at the Nuraghi and I had worked out a complete travel plan. Then Corona happened. Ah well, maybe next year.
Those ruins look uncannily similar to the "Great Zimbabwe Ruins" (Zimbabwe, Africa) - there they have found shards of Ming dynasty pottery, middle eastern oil lamps to name just a few odd finds
Good sir, you just continue to expand my horizons on the ancient civilizations that I was never taught in grammar school or college. I am ever grateful for your content. You are brushing up against the level I would expect to see in a school curriculum. Outside of watching your content here and following you on social media and sharing your videos, is there anything else a broke person can do to support you in your endeavors? If I had spare income to join your patreon, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Also, I would be incredibly interested to see your take, from an archeological/anthropological perspective, on the political figures, places, cultures and politics mentioned in the book of Esther in the Tanakh/Bible. We know the story of the holy books, but what does the evidence tell us of that time and those events? I feel like there is a more complex story and truth that hasn't been told. Your channel is a place where the facts, evidence and truth are center stage, and I would love to see the tapestry you weave of them.
Hi Shay, thanks so much for stopping by…comments like yours totally make my day. I appreciate the support and honestly, just watching and learning from these videos and letting me know what you think is more than enough, nothing else needed. I’m just happy that there are so many people like yourself who are really into this stuff. About the book of Esther, yes, I will be doing A LOT on the Achaemenid Persian Empire as well as the king featured in that story (Xerxes). I hadn’t specifically thought of covering the story of Esther but I like your idea of going over the underlying politics and seeing how the historical Xerxes matches up with the one in the Tanakh…that would be very interesting indeed. I’ll look into it… Once, thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate it. More to come for sure, stay safe!
6:15 "oxhide" ingots? (that's what it sounds like, and cc has it the same). "Ingots" would be a metal, so copper, tin or silver or gold maybe, but "oxhide"?
can you make a video about sardinia's bandits? (I'm from sardinia and this beautifull island has a really bloody, violent and cruel history so i wanted to see a video about it made by you because i love your channel)
from what i recall. they where mostly for signal fires for long range communication(much like the native american's and there smoke signals) so yeah for the most part they where fire signal tower's for communication.
I learned of the Nuragic ruins from watching Simcha's Finding Atlantis documentary. I watched it almost a year ago just for fun(not meaning or believing they'd actually find Atlantis, and they didn't).. Well, it was good for showing the Nuragic ruins; he showed a lot of good stuff in there. And of course, he didn't find Atlantis. Recently, like a week or so ago, I noted that Atlantis sounds like the Greek god Atlas, and some of the Plato description of Atlantis is kind of in the hevavens of Atlas like.
There are related structures, called "Torri" and "Talliot" on Sicily and Corsica as well. The vast majority of the archeological reports and texts about them and the nuraghes are only published in Italian, which may be a great reason to buckle down and learn the language!
There are a few old texts about the onomastics (the language of old Place-Names) of these island civilizations as well, in French and German. The upshot of the Place-Names seems to indicate a possible relationship to both proto Etruscan and Iberian (Vasconic) languages.
I may have said this before, but whenever you look for anything related to the Nuraghe, or Sardinian and Italian megalithis in general, your search must wade through nephelime, giants, and Atlantis stories. So it is actually quite refreshing to see a more grounded overview of ancient Sardinia. Personally, have always viewed them as akin to medieval castles. The residence of a powerful king, chief, or lord like the Megaron of Greece. I've even read of these structures being observatories, but I don't think that was their primary purpose. Also of note is the truly beautiful sacred springs of bronze age Sardinia. I heartily recommend people look them up. They are of truly beautiful stonework. The peer of the Mycenaeans and maybe even the Hittites.
Yeah, for some reason reminds me of the Argaric culture of the Iberian peninsula. I sometimes wonder if each nuraghe were simply large dwellings of various families or clan, much like houses in a typical suburban neighborhood, but obviously with more space. Every neighborhood has it's large, medium-sized and smaller house, and perhaps this was the case with the nuraghis. If there were a few of them, I could see them being something special for elites, but over 7000? That's a huge number indeed. Anyway, just my thoughts...
@@HistorywithCy Oh yes, it also reminds me of similar towers on the Balearic islands. They probably had a situation in the western Mediterranean similar to what was happening in the eastern. Lots of trade and culture sharing.
Your dates don't add up here. 8:05 = btw 900 - 500 BCE quality in product greatly increased (as well as population). However, at 8:43 you state that btw 1,000-900 BCE existence ceased altogether. Could you clarify? (recognizing dates are guesstimations and imperfect...)
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, appreciate it! What I meant is that the construction of the large nuraghe structures began to end around 1000/900 BCE. However, on another material level such as pottery, bronze and iron technology and objects, many improvements were made, probably due in part to the exchange of ideas in the Mediterranean at the time. Any other questions, please don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it!
Apparently my name originated in reference to Sardinia. They rolled the R so much it became an L, and the second I got merged with the N to make Ñ in Spanish, with the last change being that the squiggly bit above the N was abandoned when it was Anglicised.
These nuragi remind me a LOT of the brochs of Scotland. Seems like they were built around the same time too. And according to your map, those places were both occupied by the bell beaker people at that time.
Thanks so much, glad you learned something. Actually I also didn't know much about them other than their name until one of my viewers brought it suggested it as a video. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it... more to come, stay safe!
Thank you for covering this cause they could possibly be the sea people one of the first to make the ziggurats or something I believe in my highly limited knowledge admittedly because NOONE ELSE is covering this xD
As a sardinian myself I'm really proud of people talking about the ancestry of us 😃
Keep up the great work!
Same
Have you considered doing a DNA test to see what comes up?
These people are very interesting to me since they possibly partook in the Sea People's raids. Anyways, love your videos.
Very unlikely, considering how relatively little trade there was.
G-Rex Saurus Nonsense. There was plenty of trade. Sardinia doesn’t exist in a vacuum. Their very civilisation relied on tin coming in from outside. Trade was a necessity of life
@@PeteKellyHistory Plenty of trade compared to what? Not to the contact Egypt had with Greece or Anatolia.
In theory there was trade with Scandinavia too even if very indirectly, were there Bronze Age Vikings among Sea peoples too?
@Atheos B. Sapien I read his book, there is no real evidence of Sardinians having been in Egypt, it's simply empty speculation based on names we can't even properly chronologically and spatially place anywhere during the 12th century.
@@g-rexsaurus794 It's speculation but far from empty since the evidence in general is relatively sparse. The size of the Sea Peoples raiding parties and their ethnic composition probably varied greatly in time and space. The Mediterranean would have been a hell of a lot easier for Nuragic people (and others of course) to cross than the land mass between Scandinavia and The Mediterranean. Here we have a people certainly capable of navigating the Mediterranean and tapping into the trade networks without a name and then a name without a people as well as some evidence based on the similarity of dress. True, the evidence is relatively flimsy but if we are to reject everything from this period that isn't 100 % solid we are going have to throw out much else besides. There simply isn't enough evidence yet to say for certain. I'm inclined to believe there is a connection and you're inclined to believe there isn't based on the same evidence. I think far more archaeological and historical research will have to be done before we can really get far beyond personal preferences.
Had no idea that Sardinia had such a fascinating past. Certainly should be analyzed more!
Agreed... I honestly want to plan a trip there (once Americans are permitted to travel to Europe again) and explore the area. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy Sardinians will glady welcome you
@@HistorywithCy The area is often simply grouped together with the rest of Italy or Western Europe. Stay safe as well!
Sadly all the scholarship comes from either us ourselves from the island or sometimes from the germans. Mainland italy in particular seems to neglect our history a lot
Sadly the rates of cancer on Sardinia have risen since it is used to test weapons. Beautiful island broken by war games.
it makes me so happy when people make videos about sardinia it's so under appreciated
In the Bible Lands Museum in Jerusalem, there is an adorable little ancient Sardinian bronze sculpture of a tiny boat in which are miniature figures of a mouse, a monkey, a cat and a fox (I think I’m remembering correctly). The Bronze Age Sardinians evidently had a sense of fun as well as being sensationally skilled metalworkers.
Oh interesting, I haven't seen a photo of that but I'll see if I can find it online. Thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it. More to come soon, stay safe!
they were actually drunk - hence the bizarre coreography
There are huge of bronze ships figurines, mostly in Sardinia but also at the British Museum, as much as at Louvre, or New York Metropolitan Museum and even in Saint Peterborough. Please stop illegal trafic and give them the role they're worth.
Sardinian were and are big sailors. They're unknown, but they aren't to great archaeologists. When they come and se e most of them say they have to get back to their previous studies. You all are welcome
Harriet, could the boat be an ark with animals?
@@orni60 se per quello al britsh museum ci sono gli ori di tharros, un vero e proprio mercimonio degno dei peggiori tombaroli, visto che avvenuto con il beneplacito di chi all'epoca portava avanti la soprintendenza cagliaritana. lasciamo perdere perchè se ci pensi ti viene solo il nervoso!
As a sardinian thanks for your work in order to spread the word about my land and its magical and fascinating history around the globe. 💙
My pleasure, glad you liked the video... I really want to visit Sardinia to see these after once we in the US are allowed to travel again. More to come, stay safe and thanks for stopping by!
"Yo land? Aw hell naw. Yo stole it! The whole world wuz black FACT!!!!!!!!"
Chaotic collapse in the east due to sea raiders with horned helmets similar to the ones on Sardinian figurines, all while life carries on 'as normal' in Sardinia and even starts to somehow improve and become more prosperous.
Mmm...sounds pretty suspicious to me...
Edit: And as soon as I saw the pictures of their towers in this vid, they reminded me of grain silos straight away, so I'm not surprised that others think that they actually were fortified silos of sorts.
Exactly my point thank you for voicing this very well!
Wel, when you visit one. You will see that there is not a lot of room to store grain. There is a passage going around the tower that brings you to the top.
@@GiancarloIdiliThey are obviously dwellings of local powerful families, similar to the stone towers of Chechen "teips" doting all around the Caucausus.
Windmills
Agreed! People underestimate the scale of trade that was happening before the collapse came.
Thanks for spreading Sardinian ancient history! 👏👏
I love obscure stuff like this, the less covered civs. More please, Cy!
For sure, have some similar content coming up! Thanks for stopping by, appreciate it!
if you liked it, do some reserches on sardinia's Domus De Janas (house of the witches) and Giant's Tombs
As Sardinian I'm very proud of my origins, especially for nuragic civilization. Great video, it's an accurate introduction for all the people who want to discover this amazing prehistoric civilization
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Glad you enjoyed it, more to come, stay tuned!
Hi I'm from Sardinia. Happy to see someone to talk about our island!! Very nice video.
Thank you! After researching this, I really want to visit Sardinia. All the best, stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy check nuraghe Santu antine, crazy structure, hard to think they could do it without a project/some writing instruction
A huge like from Sardinia for this great video!
Thank you, appreciate the feedback! I really want to visit and see this side of Sardinia soon!
The part where you say “reportedly without resistance from the local population” isn’t completely true, after the Carthaginians surrendered Sardinia to the Romans, the Nuragic tribes in the interior of the Island (Ilienses, Balares and Corsicans) rebelled for at least other 100 years (some important rebellions were in 225, 177, 126 and 111) with them being known as Civitates Barbariae (Barbaric civilizations) from which descends the name Barbaja (the central region of the Island).
Barbaros is a greek word, nothing to do with that
Achille Nero “barbarus” despite having a Greek origin also existed in Latin. The name “barbaja” comes the Latin form.
@@marchesadigroenlandia3487 if u like to think so, is ok.
Btw is wrong.
Achille Nero it’s a fact that the name “Barbaja” was given by the Romans, they were the ones to call Nuragics “civitates Barbariae”, and the name Barbaja comes from Latin: “barbaria”, as again the name barbarian also existed in Latin, as “barbarus” (this is again a fact). I don’t know why you’re so eager to prove this wrong, according to you, who gave the name Barbaja? and why didn’t the Romans give the name Barbaja? I want to know your theory.
@@marchesadigroenlandia3487 of course, after you edit your initial post, we totally agree about everything.
the Greeks generated the barbarian meaning, after they passed it to the Romans, and therefore they referred to the Sardinians, or part of that territory(barbaja, as you pointed out) with that name. It s ok.
I have no complains about that.
And no strange theory about, just history.
This video it's just amazing. A great introduction to the Nuragic Civilization. Thanks, Cy.
No, thank YOU for stopping by, really appreciate it. Hope to put out more on the Nuraghi in future...thanks again and stay safe!
Interesting.
Otzi "the ice man" who lived around 3300 BCE and who's body was found in a melting glacier in the Alps has DNA that connects him to these peoples.
Yo that’s wild if you aren’t making this up that’s badass!
at the time (Neolithic) and before any INDO-EUROPEAN input, there was majoritarily that kind of DNA in Europe, so it is more of a question of Sardinians preserving the DNA similar to neolithic europeans (due to isolation) than Otzi and other neolithic people being from Sardinia or Corsica
Really? That's fascinating!
The original Rhaetians...
we’re all connected. it only takes a few native pre indoeuropeans to mate with the invaders, for their genes to come down to us, hence my 210 Neanderthal variants...
At first glance the nuraghi remindet me of castles from the Middle ages,multi purpose buildings .
Thank you for this interessting video,would like to hear more about this culture.
Thank YOU for stopping by, really appreciate it! Yeah, I might revisit them again in the context of other videos on the ancient Mediterranean. Thanks again, stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy
Blessings!
I think that's the safest assumption, especially considering larger nuraghes had a whole village around it and many were built alongside places of governance and religious devotion (see the santa Cristina well, which is ten steps from a probable city hall and fifty from a nuraghe)
That was incredibly interesting! I have to know more about them... thank you!:)
Glad you liked it... I'll probably touch up more on them in other programs on the ancient Mediterranean. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it...stay safe!
I visited a bunch of Nuraghe when I lived in Sardinia, they’re extremely fascinating.
My first time hearing about This civilization, fascinating.
Glad you learned something new and thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate it. Stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy I gotta ask, if I wanted to be a historian what would be some good advice/tips?
How the heck I knew about, say, the Mississippi Civilization for decades but hear about the Nuraghi for the first time? Thank you so much for this really enlightening video!
As a Sardinian i thank you for this video, it’s sad that we don’t study our own culture that much in school, but im happy that somebody spread our culture
Aw yes! I'm so happy to see this video.
Thankyou, Cy. A little known period and place.
Glad you enjoyed it! Yeah, it's nice to take a break from Mesopotamia once in a while.
fascinating, didn't know about them, thank you very much for the content!
Glad you liked and thanks for stopping by, appreciate it!
Cy I really do like all of the last five episodes I've seen you still amaze me how great you put out a lot of the product nothing but facts you are a good man I appreciate that
The pleasure's mine, love putting these out for all of you. The last five, especially the Phoenician one, were a lot of fun to make. If you have any requests, let me know! Thanks again, stay safe!
love those obscured pre indo european civilizations keep it up
Apparently, ancient Sardinians did leave some written documents (like the stone of Teti and the Nora stele), they were written in a semitic type of writing, similar to phoenician/punic, though not quite the same
Thanks Cy, I love learning about more obscure cultures like this!
Good to know because there's more such cultures coming up! Thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate!
@@HistorywithCy anything about Tartaria?
I have some books with wonderful photos of Sardinia and Corsica.
This is great history/theories on ancient sites. It would be great to explore the Mediterranean islands.💚
Yeah I definitely want to do that in the near future, hopefully soon after the travel ban (for us in the US) is lifted. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it. Stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy i hope too!! We are very sad of this period. We suffer a lot of that pandemic (tourism is important here in Sardinia)
I think you will be welcome here, let's hope that we'll have soon a vaccine for this virus 💪
I am so proud to be of Sardinian heritage!
So am I 🤗
Yes, what a beautiful heritage it is indeed! Thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate it. Stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy I truly hope all of you will be able to soon enjoy, for it really is World Common Human Heritage😊
I've tried to look up the history of Sardinia myself with little results been interested in aincent Sardinia since I've learned about the sea people's and the possible involvement of the aincent people that lived there, you video was very informational on the subject.
Glad it helped! I also learned a lot making this. Thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it. More to come, stay safe!
Hi Chris, look up Shardana, the sea people..
Ramses had them as bodyguards..
It is believed that Shardana were the only people before the Romans to invade ancient Egypt..
Now this underground history is the kind of stuff I love this channel for
Comments like this make my day...thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate it. Stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy Yo you responded you're so amazing! Now that I've got your atention I will recommend some history for your quarantine. The Cañari (one of the last resistance groups against the Incas) are very well documented specially by historian Gonzales Suarez. There's also the Tolita which were the first recorded civilization to work with platinum (My aunt was part of the first archeological expedition back in 1979). And finally the Caranqui-Cochasquí confederation which remained independent even during the presence of the Incas and Spaniards
Anyways, hope you stay safe ✌ and thanks for making such complete content for us.
Great over view of Sardinia. Thanks for the intro!
Thanks so much, appreciate the feedback...more to come, stay safe!
So excellent Cy! Keeping the memory of peoples alive. Thank you
Thanks, appreciate the kind words and will do! Have more under-the-radar civilizations coming up, stay tuned and safe!
Early Steppe Peoples or Bronze Age Scandinavia please.
2nd time asking. I will never give up.
@Aléxandros ho Mégas Yeah but I want him to make one. He tends to make the best videos on stuff like that.
Never ever give up
never gonna give you up
Haha interesting discussion you're all having here. Steppes peoples for sure (Scythians in the next few weeks), Bronze Age Scandinavia I'll look into. I do agree with Alexandros that there are several such videos out there but if I do one, I'll try to add something extra into it. Thanks for the suggestions, really appreciate the enthusiasm for this stuff. Stay safe you all!
@Aléxandros ho Mégas The problem is that few of these peoples had writing. They left behind very interesting artifacts, however. Ironically, the "ancient alien" people have created and posted the most extensive online materials about them. I find it ironic because these people seem to think that we are descended from incompetent fools who could not, in their view, possibly have created these ancient monuments. Even more bizarrely, these alleged aliens left behind nothing that was not made out of earth rocks. Look around your house - it is full of modern materials like stainless steel, plastics, copper wires, very flat glass, and complex materials that comprise transistors and electronic circuits, as well as internal combustion engines, electric engines, televisions, computers.... Light bulbs have tungsten in them....Ancient alien BS is transparently absurd.
Pretty interesting how an increase in population in the Iron Age came at the same time as a decrease in nuraghe construction. The first thing that comes to mind (although in context, unlikely) is a peaceful migration of a foreign people into Sardinia around the Bronze Age Collapse, that both increased the population and brought its own culture which overshadowed the original one, so there were less nuraghes built. (as we can see from their multi-purpose functionality, the nuraghes were specifically an element of Nuragic culture, rather than just the easiest way to make a fortress/central building with the resources available there)
One other thing that I still want to know about the the Nuragic civilization is what their language was. Now, of course, without written records everything is a speculation, but if they did originate from the Bell Beaker culture I'd expect their language to be Indo-European - but that still leaves tons of questions. The most probable options are Italic, Celtic, or its own branch (if you exclude the possibility that there was a population on the island speaking a non-IE language that got adopted by the Nuragic migrants). If it is its own branch though, maybe it's worth revisiting whatever records we have of the Sardinia-based Romance languages (or just plain Latin) and looking for loanwords from Nuragic? (and then trying to trace back the loanwords to PIE via its own route rather than the Italic one)
It's clear from their genetics that Sardinians couldn't have spoken any IE before the Roman conquest, they have virtually 0 steppe ancestry.
There have been many theories on the nuragic/paleo Sardinian language, some linguists think it may have been a pre-IE language, either related to Iberian and Basque, or to Berber, to the Pre IE languages of Southern Italy, to the Pre IE languages of the Balkans and of the Eagean. Other believe it was a IE language either related to the Italic languages of Italy, or to the Anatolic languages of Anatolia, to Illyrian, to Mycenaean or to a para-Celtic language (e.g. Ligurian). Some linguists propose a language with 6 substratum layers or three different nuragic languages (the northern one would have been Ligurian, the central-northern one a IE language from Iberia and the last one a pre IE language, related to Berber or Minoan languages). Some non-Latin Sardinian words are: Óspile= a shady place Bette= big/lots Bitti/Bette/Bitta= juvenile deer Saccayu= lamb Bittara= female Mouflon Marracocco (not sure if this is non-Latin tho)= apricot Múvara/Muvra/múvura= mouflon Tilipirke= grasshopper Tzìntzula=mosquito Tzilingrone=worm Yàcaru/Jàgaru/Zàcaru= dog/ Sardinian dogo.
To add to all the other answers, some people think have enough evidence to say that it was of the same family of Etruscan - the Sardinian professor 'Pittau' was especially convinced of this idea and maybe he was the biggest pioneer of the idea too -, on top of the similarities in the two cultures; also, the Etruscans were maybe considered part of the sea people by the Egyptians (Shardana=Sardinia, Tekeresh=Etruscans), and if I recall correctly, the Etruscans were also identified with the name Sardis, Sardki and Sari. There are still many words that are supposedly from Nuragic (i.e. unknown etymology and not from Latin) and the majority of them are names for plants and villages, geographical areas and animals, some:
groddhe=fox(in some towns)
many names for insects like tilipirke= grasshopper
tilikerta= lizard
tiligugu= snail without its cover xD, but in some towns can also mean a kind of lizard( scientists chose iy even as the official 'latin' name for the lizard only found in sardinian)
antunna=mushroom
also tarantula=gecko
allegedly nikele= 'thing' (but also said to derive from latin NICIL)
From this you can see that tili- and ta- or tu- could have been some sort of marker, maybe the definite article in Nuragic like 'the' in english, which iirc exists also in Etruscan. Allegedly the way they marked the plural of nouns was by adding an -r at the end, and you can find this (again, allegedly) in names like the city of Nuoro( Nugor /'nugor(o)/ in the sardinian of the city), where the final -r marks the plural of some word like 'Nugo', iirc in Etruscan the plural is made by adding -ar or -ur to the name.
Also 'nur' in the name nuraghe /nu'rage/ and nurache /nu'rake/ is said to have meant something like 'rocks' and 'pile of rocks'
@@marchesadigroenlandia3487 Perfect answer but I should add that Sardinian 'bette' has also a Latin etymology xD, from vectis /'wektis/ which meant something like 'pole' or 'big stick', which goes hand in hand with 'meta/meda' which also meant big stick in Latin
@@viperking6573 Very interesting, thanks for sharing! :-)
It’s fun seeing more people interested in this ancient culture. Several years back, as a kid, I did a lot of research on them for an admittedly embarrassing reason: I was very interested in the Night At The Museum franchise, and wanted to make my own original character, whom was from the Nuragic civilization. Every now and again it peaks my interest once more and I return to look up more
I like finding out about different cultures other than the more famous ones, like Greece Rome, Egypt etc..
The less known civilizations are just as cool and interesting
These are always so interesting thank you
Thanks, I appreciate it and glad that you stopped by...more to come, stay tuned!
Very interesting video. It's one of those topics that I kinda heard something about but never learned much in-depth.
Thanks, glad it was useful...as always, thanks also for stopping by, really appreciate it. More to come soon...
Awesome !!!
Thanks my friend, just saw your latest Archaeology News...loved it!
You should do a video on Tartessos, an influential civilization of southwestern Spain and Portugal
That would be interesting indeed... just have to make sure that I have some reputable sources on the subject. Thanks for the suggestion!
I thank the algorithm for showing me your channel, great stuff mate!
Awesome, good to know Google's working for me this time haha. Thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate it...stay safe!
Very happy I found your channel :)
I'm happy you found it too! Hope that you enjoy the videos. Thanks for stopping by, stay safe!
Mamuthones and issohadores have always fascinated me.
Maybe you could do an in-depth vid about them (if you haven't already. My first visit here via HT recommend).
*Sardinian culture puts me in mind of the Basques for some reason.
Fun fact: the name "issohadore" comes from the verb "issohare" which means "to wipe".
Greeting from Sardinia and thanks!
Great stuff! I'm really enjoying your channel.
Thanks, great to hear, motivates me to put out more for you all!
Such an interesting video as always, didn't know anything about them and this interesting structures, only knew that they were part of Sea Peoples invasion
Genetic testing has shown that Sardinians are almost completely identical to the first farmers which spread the technology into Europe from the Levant. So maybe, the Nhuragic civilization could have been Semitic - that can explain their hypothesised involvement in the Sea People's raids and Carthiginian society, since they could communicate on a greater level and possessed similar cultures.
Sardinians are not really almost identical to them, Sardinians have plenty of western hunter gatherer, some indo-european and some MENA ancestry, they are about 75-80% ENF though.
Also there is no reason to believe they were Semitic, no attested Semitic population was mostly ENF, they were a mix of Neolithic Levant, Neolithic Iran and Neolithic Anatolian(ENF), quite different.
Also the participation of Sardinia in the sea people stuff is completely speculative and unlikely given the distances involved.
@@g-rexsaurus794 Thank you for the response and clarification, although I don't think a drop from 95% Neolithic Farmer to 80% changes much. I was simply speculating using the information I had from Survive the Jive haha. Thank you once again.
Another wonderful introduction to an ancient civilization. I learn so much from your channel. Before today when I heard Sardinia I only thought about the Monty python hide-and-seek sketch.
Lol oh that's funny, I don't remember that sketch... maybe it's on TH-cam, I'll try to find it. Thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it...more to come soon, stay tuned!
History with Cy I think it is in season three of the series. Sketch is something like the Olympics “hide-and-seek” men’s finals.
And I want to say thank you for you have covered all the subjects I requested my hat's off to you and God bless you I put them all in my best category the vault
Thanks so much for the kind words and feedback, I'm thrilled that you are so into this stuff. Honestly, it also motivates me to put more out more often for you all. More to come, stay safe!
Great video, thank you!
My favorite channel for sunday
Thanks so much, I'm honored... I do my best to make it everyday! Haha thanks again and stay safe!
Great content. Nice research.
Thank you, appreciate the kind words!
Outstanding, thanks!
Thank you, appreciate you stopping by!
I love how you say Nuraghe, you so hype when you say it
Another winner Cy! Really enjoyed your video. I could listen to you speak about history forever! Your presentations are always interesting and I always learn something I didn't know before! I think I really would have liked these ancient people. Thanks again Cy, big hugs from Washington! 👇🌟👏
Hi Blue, great to her from you! Yeah, I think I would have liked them too... hanging out along the shore, hopping from island to island, building nurgahis. Hope y'all are safe in up there. Our cases have been going up and our county is on lockdown once again but we're OK. Stay safe my friend!
Very interesting, thanks, Cy! I wonder what the Sardinian people themselves say about their ancient culture?
Since i'm from Sardinia i can answer to you. (And sorry for my bad english)
At first almost any village especially in the central part have some of this stuff (nuraghes, or monolith like Stonehenge)
So i'am very proud of my ancestor because they could fight powers like Romans and Phoenician (maybe were helped by nuraghes and from terrain that is still very bad today, cause a lot of woods and mountain.)
Then many legends related Sardinia at Atlantis, the legendary continent over the Hercules's columns (the strait of Gibilterra) since the greeks often identifies The "Hercules's columns" with the strait of Sicily.
Unfortunatly the Ancient shardana and nuraghi's peopole didn't know how to write so we lost their culture, their view of thinking ecc...
But religion maybe be animist, and many rituals can still be preserved thanks to syncretism with the catholocism
For example during the day of Saint.Anthony (on january) we burn a large fire and many young peopole try to take on the top of that fire a prize. Maybe this ritual was performed ,during the nuraghi's era, for good omen or to have good harvest.
At last i can say: we speak a language quite different from Italian (Sardinia is a part of Italy) but is similar to latin maybe only few words are related to the nuraghi's language (like the sound 'ur' and sound 'or' present in many names of cities, near the nuraghi's areas like Nuoro, Orune, Orani, Urzulei, Orgosolo ecc...)
Also the people, are not related as much with indo-europeans. Many Gentics studies show (especially in the central areas) how sardinians are similiar to Basque than the italians
of the penisula.
I think Alpha Centauri has given a much better answer than I ever could have. Thanks to both of you for stopping by, really appreciate it!
I'm Sardinian too, sadly we lost most of that culture probably, because the Romans have conquered the Sardinia for more than a millennium (sardinian is also the romance language more similar to rustic and classical Latin) so the rites that we have have probably little to no connection to the nuragic culture,
We have many structures and necropolis and some roots in some of the words (mostly in the Sardinian dialects of the interior).
Still our island is beautiful with many archaeological sites of various epochs within the span of millennia, we have sandy and rocky beaches and a huge WWF protected area (Oasi di Monte Arcosu) surely there is plenty to see here, and also a very small population (1.6 million people in the entire Sardinia) that makes it more easy to manage the social distancing
P.S. one others strange thing that we have is that the far North of Sardinia (Gallura) has a completely different language from the Sardinian language, wich is more related with Italian and other italian dialects and languages (we also talk obviously Italian in all Sardinia),
And also the "Giudicale" epoch in Sardinia is very interesting, with stories about the slaughter of Sardinian representatives on behalf of the Italian king of that period.
And also the more recent history is interesting with the story of Antonio Gramsci , surely in history we are a rebellious bunch of people 😂😂😂
I love history
Me too, thanks for stopping by, appreciate it!
Don’t get to hear a lot about Sardinia or Corsica, ‘predicate it
Yeah I also didn't know too much until I started researching for this video...fascinating stuff! Thanks for stopping by, appreciate it!
I lived in Poetto, near Cagliari in 1976-8 and visited one of the many Nuraghe sites and museum artefacts like the copper sculptures.
Fascinating 🖖🏼 McLovin your work mate👌🏻
I recently discovered that my mother is 10.7% Sardinian. Thanks for the video! ❤
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
The theory that nuraghi had multiple purposes makes sense, just in terms of practicality.
The Native American Cahokia settlement (I know the cultures are unrelated) had many earthen mounds built for purposes including fortifications, burials, trash heaps, etc.
So glad you are going to talk about the Sardian civilisation.
It's unfortunate that, despite the surpsising longevity of this ancient culture, we still know so little about them.
Their language still survived in some ways.
Even tho it became increasingly italianized.
Many sardian words are still very alien to the mainland language of Italy.
Btw.
I personally believe that the nuraghi were multipurpose buildings.
Basically fortified cities.
Something not so different from what michenean fortified cities were.
Yeah I would love to study the language ... I can understand a good deal of written Italian due to knowing Portuguese and Spanish, should be interesting to see how different the Sardinian dialect is. I also think that they were some sort of multipurpose small castle structure where important items such as weapons and foodstuffs were stored and perhaps also where elites sought shelter, but honestly that's just a guess based on my limited knowledge.
Anyway, thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it. I hope that all is well in your part of Italy. I remember when we were talking about the health situation there a few months ago...looks like we've switched with you all since I hear that you all really came together to limit this outbreak whereas it gets worse for us every day. Stay safe my friend, this too shall pass!
@@HistorywithCy
Yeah.
Thanks to the efforts of our regional governer, the pandemy is disappearing just as fast as it came in.
Some people still use masks, gloves, and gel, wich is good.
But since the cases of infection are becoming more rare than before, the population is getting better.
The government is still doing some dumb stuff.
Like, opening the ports to let the migrants come in...
I mean...
Were are you gonna house them?
We are in the middle of a pandemy, why are you allowing potentially infected foreiners to come in without any sort of precautions?
Whatever...
I am sorry for the situation in the USA.
I do hope that, by realising how big of a mistake the decision of your government was, you all will get back on your feet and take the situation at hand
I hope you all get better.
@@HistorywithCy
Btw.
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Here.
Have fun.
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@@HistorywithCy
It's very weird that.
Despite the longevity of this civilisation and the direct contact with cultures such as the Greeks and the Romans, no one seem to have written anything about them.
The romans wrote extensively about forein cultures, such as the Celts.
So I am really confused by the lack of direct accounts of the Sardinian culture.
The thing is...nuragic culture was there way before Romans, Greeks and Celts. The written documents of that period are extremely rare in Europe.
In the biblical story of Jonah, when Jonah sets sail from Joppa in a boat, some believe that his destination was Sardinia, which is written as Tarchish in the Bible. There is still debate on this matter.
Oh interesting, I didn't know that. Hmmm, I wonder why Sardinia and not say Cyprus, Crete or Sicily which would have been much closer. Interesting indeed...
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History with Cy I am not sure, but you did mention the Phoenicians were traveling to Sardinia, and the Israelites and Phoenicians had close relations. The story also mentions Nineveh as being the place Jonah must go and preach to, warning them to repent before God wipes them out (a recurring theme in the Bible). But presumably this story was written during a time when Nineveh was prominent, and seafaring had become more commonplace thanks to the Phoenicians, perhaps around the 9th and 8th centuries BCE.
I think Tarshish was in Spain -the area around Cadiz -just look up the Tartessos culture and civillisation.
Tarshish is the same as Tartessos, i.e. later Turdetania or Baetica. Solomon also dealt with Tarshish as partner of the Phoenicians but the best description is given by Phocaean Greeks (the ones who founded Marseilles and all Western Greek colonies) in their narration of a unique diplomatic visit to King Argantonios. Their description is unmistakable and Tartessos should be approx. where now is Seville, which was then at the mouth of the river Betis (Guadlquivir) and all the land between there and the Ocean was a lagoon (Ligustine Lagoon, now swampy crop fields). Per the Phocaean narration Argantonios wanted the Greek visitors to stay but when they declined, he gave them a massive gift of silver so they could reinforced the walls of Phocae against the expected Lydian invasion. Some time later Gadir may have destroyed the city (unclear on lack of sufficient archaeological evidence).
great work!
Really fascinating! I'd be interested to hear what elements of castles these fortresses did or did not have, since it looks like they have crenelations!
Those are reconstructions AFAIK, never seen a preserved top but it's a plausible reconstruction.
Love this. They're art is incredibly charming. l
Canto a tenore sardo (AKA Sardinian throat singing) intensifies.
I bet their tin came from Cornwall and Devon too
Bellissimo, grazie tante!
This was a very interesting video! Great topic! Btw I suggest that you do a video on the Mari Empire. They were pretty cool.
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it and glad that you liked the video! Actually I have some stuff on Mari...
This one is an older one but the info is still good:
th-cam.com/video/S-a8BYm_Gm4/w-d-xo.html
Also, a lot about Mari under Zimri-Lim in this video on Hammurabi:
th-cam.com/video/oOLcEqQ6T5g/w-d-xo.html
Any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask. Thanks again, stay safe!
Apparently there is a wide strip right across the middle of Sardinia running from north to south,coast to coast that has no remnants of the nuraghic civilsation where as they are present everywhere else -there is a theory that a great cataclysmic tsunami swept through the island and swept away all the nuraghi in that area.
Yes, but not the "Thera" one..wrong tzunami :-)
Great video! Antient civilizations are my favorites. In Bulgaria we know only the Etruscan civilization from pre Roman Italy. :)
We wanted to go to Sardinia this year to specificaly look at the Nuraghi and I had worked out a complete travel plan. Then Corona happened. Ah well, maybe next year.
Let us know how this year goes
@@WTFisDrifting This year still feels too early. Maybe 2022.
this subject is very much of interest to me
Those ruins look uncannily similar to the "Great Zimbabwe Ruins" (Zimbabwe, Africa) - there they have found shards of Ming dynasty pottery, middle eastern oil lamps to name just a few odd finds
Bronze age/early iron age is such an interesting time period in my opinion
Good sir, you just continue to expand my horizons on the ancient civilizations that I was never taught in grammar school or college. I am ever grateful for your content. You are brushing up against the level I would expect to see in a school curriculum.
Outside of watching your content here and following you on social media and sharing your videos, is there anything else a broke person can do to support you in your endeavors? If I had spare income to join your patreon, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
Also, I would be incredibly interested to see your take, from an archeological/anthropological perspective, on the political figures, places, cultures and politics mentioned in the book of Esther in the Tanakh/Bible. We know the story of the holy books, but what does the evidence tell us of that time and those events? I feel like there is a more complex story and truth that hasn't been told. Your channel is a place where the facts, evidence and truth are center stage, and I would love to see the tapestry you weave of them.
Hi Shay, thanks so much for stopping by…comments like yours totally make my day. I appreciate the support and honestly, just watching and learning from these videos and letting me know what you think is more than enough, nothing else needed. I’m just happy that there are so many people like yourself who are really into this stuff.
About the book of Esther, yes, I will be doing A LOT on the Achaemenid Persian Empire as well as the king featured in that story (Xerxes). I hadn’t specifically thought of covering the story of Esther but I like your idea of going over the underlying politics and seeing how the historical Xerxes matches up with the one in the Tanakh…that would be very interesting indeed. I’ll look into it…
Once, thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate it. More to come for sure, stay safe!
6:15 "oxhide" ingots? (that's what it sounds like, and cc has it the same). "Ingots" would be a metal, so copper, tin or silver or gold maybe, but "oxhide"?
Are modern day Sardinians genetically related to the Nuraghi builders?
Crete/Minoans, Etruscans, Sardinia, Malta are some early people that I have recently come across.
Just found out my dad has about 1% of his DNA from Sardinian origin according to ancestryDNA.
can you make a video about sardinia's bandits?
(I'm from sardinia and this beautifull island has a really bloody, violent and cruel history so i wanted to see a video about it made by you because i love your channel)
Too recent
from what i recall. they where mostly for signal fires for long range communication(much like the native american's and there smoke signals)
so yeah for the most part they where fire signal tower's for communication.
I learned of the Nuragic ruins from watching Simcha's Finding Atlantis documentary. I watched it almost a year ago just for fun(not meaning or believing they'd actually find Atlantis, and they didn't).. Well, it was good for showing the Nuragic ruins; he showed a lot of good stuff in there. And of course, he didn't find Atlantis. Recently, like a week or so ago, I noted that Atlantis sounds like the Greek god Atlas, and some of the Plato description of Atlantis is kind of in the hevavens of Atlas like.
Very interesting video
Thank you, appreciate the kind words. Stay safe!
Thanks, Cy!
You are so welcome, thank you for stopping by!
Good evidenced based history devoid of ideology and hidden assumptions. Basically the opposite of Extra Credits. Subscribed.
There are related structures, called "Torri" and "Talliot" on Sicily and Corsica as well. The vast majority of the archeological reports and texts about them and the nuraghes are only published in Italian, which may be a great reason to buckle down and learn the language!
There are a few old texts about the onomastics (the language of old Place-Names) of these island civilizations as well, in French and German. The upshot of the Place-Names seems to indicate a possible relationship to both proto Etruscan and Iberian (Vasconic) languages.
Dude great vid :D
Thank you, really appreciate the kind words... more to come, stay tuned and stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy of course! I subscribed!!
I may have said this before, but whenever you look for anything related to the Nuraghe, or Sardinian and Italian megalithis in general, your search must wade through nephelime, giants, and Atlantis stories. So it is actually quite refreshing to see a more grounded overview of ancient Sardinia.
Personally, have always viewed them as akin to medieval castles. The residence of a powerful king, chief, or lord like the Megaron of Greece. I've even read of these structures being observatories, but I don't think that was their primary purpose. Also of note is the truly beautiful sacred springs of bronze age Sardinia. I heartily recommend people look them up. They are of truly beautiful stonework. The peer of the Mycenaeans and maybe even the Hittites.
Yeah, for some reason reminds me of the Argaric culture of the Iberian peninsula. I sometimes wonder if each nuraghe were simply large dwellings of various families or clan, much like houses in a typical suburban neighborhood, but obviously with more space. Every neighborhood has it's large, medium-sized and smaller house, and perhaps this was the case with the nuraghis. If there were a few of them, I could see them being something special for elites, but over 7000? That's a huge number indeed. Anyway, just my thoughts...
@@HistorywithCy Oh yes, it also reminds me of similar towers on the Balearic islands. They probably had a situation in the western Mediterranean similar to what was happening in the eastern. Lots of trade and culture sharing.
Your dates don't add up here. 8:05 = btw 900 - 500 BCE quality in product greatly increased (as well as population). However, at 8:43 you state that btw 1,000-900 BCE existence ceased altogether. Could you clarify? (recognizing dates are guesstimations and imperfect...)
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, appreciate it! What I meant is that the construction of the large nuraghe structures began to end around 1000/900 BCE. However, on another material level such as pottery, bronze and iron technology and objects, many improvements were made, probably due in part to the exchange of ideas in the Mediterranean at the time. Any other questions, please don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it!
History with Cy - thanks for the clarification brother, appreciate it!
Apparently my name originated in reference to Sardinia.
They rolled the R so much it became an L, and the second I got merged with the N to make Ñ in Spanish, with the last change being that the squiggly bit above the N was abandoned when it was Anglicised.
Good Job Cy
From Sardinia
Thank you, really glad a Sardinian liked it... hope that I represented your history accurately! More to come, stay tuned!
Do the Scandinavian countries in the Bronze Age!!
I would love to and it's on my list... getting there, slowly but surely! Thanks for the suggestion!
These nuragi remind me a LOT of the brochs of Scotland. Seems like they were built around the same time too. And according to your map, those places were both occupied by the bell beaker people at that time.
well i had no idea they even existed. nice video
Thanks so much, glad you learned something. Actually I also didn't know much about them other than their name until one of my viewers brought it suggested it as a video. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it... more to come, stay safe!
I’m Corsican in south of the island you’ve got remains of Torrean civilization, similar to Nuragic civilization
Thank you for covering this cause they could possibly be the sea people one of the first to make the ziggurats or something I believe in my highly limited knowledge admittedly because NOONE ELSE is covering this xD