Would You Rather Have a 1/1 or a Base RC?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- Would you rather have one of the most iconic 1/1s EVER MADE…or a base rookie card for the same price? Would you rather have a Kaboom, or would you rather have a common, non-numbered retail exclusive rookie card?
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When I started collecting, I was just collecting the player itself. But eventually, I am collecting for the art of the card and the quality.
Great video, Ty! Really brings home the point about price/value discrepancies in the graded card market. Makes me want to cull my collection even more…
Thanks, guys!
Hey T-pot thanks for another thought-provoking video. IMO obviously depends. For example i love that Messi you showed…but i personally would rather have his iconic RC…that would mean more to me, regardless of scarcity and grade…I kind of PC Messi. Ohtani on the other hand, I would rather have a nicer card/auto versus a PSA 10 RC. I like the player but he doesn’t mean anything to me, it would be for investment only. I hope this makes sense.
The problem with the first comparison is the perceived value is assuming condition. The question would be better asked if you cracked the slabs and offered all three raw. The barber card is obviously still a GM card raw, but would you still risk it to have a grade done again? Or just protect it yourself and put it away? I bet the kaboom would be everyone’s choice at that point unless it was obviously flawed.
As a collector, I look for the 1/1 Superfractors of players I like. Rc’s just don’t do it for me. Too many out there.
Great “would you rather”! I’m always partial to the RC, even if it’s less rare.
I acquired 1 of each couldn’t see the PC without one or the other I would have chosen the Luka Prizm RC,the Curry Topps Chrome Refractor I’d choose,the Messi base RC I’d choose,the Ohtani the Heritage Chrome hands down and a 10 for the most nothing less than a 9,like that Burrows shadow box best i personally have a very rare high end collection high grades as well thanks T-Pot for a fantastic video
Lots of holiday purchases...including the 4/20. Lol!!
No question, the Burrow on card auto !!
I would love the infamous kaboom 💥 considering I don’t have any, but the case hit aurora is imo the best looking card and what I would artistically want in my collection
You go for the Messi rookie base card. It is a psa 10, low pop count, and hard to find. Definitely a better investment.
Great video T-pot!!!
My picks...
100% the Aurora Luka.
I agree with you on the STEPH as well.
The Soccer Jesus is where im gonna disagree because of my absolute hatred and contempt for Panini in regards to them destroying prizm/select/optic with the amount of parallels and overproduction...as well as the quality control...or lack thereof. So im going with the Mega Kraxxx...which isn't rare...but its definitely not overproduced.
Pencil me in for the Shohei Stack as well...there's so many options for the Japanese Unicorn with his rookie cards...so im going with quantity over quality.
As far as Joey Ice Cubes...I love his swagger...and his talent is undeniable...but his career so far simply doesn't warrant the prices of his cards.
With Joey B....I would love a dope case hit insert from SPECTRA or OPTIC over anything else.
BTW....I would love for you to explore...or deep dive into a hockey card/set that came out in 1998-99...O-Pee-Chee Chrome Blast from the past...particularly the refractor parallel. How rare they are...and how nice they look.
The Gretzky from that set is a card I had at one point but traded it away years ago unfortunately.
Its now on my grail list of cards I want/need.
1/1 for me. i do collect rookies tho... but a 1/1 is a 1/1 so yea... lol
Can you guys do some market research on $50-100 cards? You know something attainable for the 99% of us.
Most people do $100-500 it’s the most common market
It's called Panini instant and Topps Now.
Don’t buy $50-$100 cards. Buy less cards and save up. If everyone can buy it the odds of it being of value is very low
@@ryansomers9440 idk there's people like GabyCardStacks that buy $10-$50 cards and make good money flipping
@@ryansomers9440 eh. There's plenty of cards where you can buy a raw card in really good condition for pretty cheap that has value once graded. I usually buy groups of 10 or so cards every now and then of a player I'm collecting. For example I just bought a bunch of Bo Bichette and Julio Rodriguez rookie parallel and refractor cards raw.
Edit: I also buy higher end cards that are pricier but I believe you can do either or and gain appreciation... for example I don't think anyone that owns a Mike Trout non numbered parallel rookie card is complaining...
Rarity of the card > low PSA pop count. For me anyway. Great vid
With Ohtani, I immediately went with stack over single pristine BGS card… but upon further reflection, I think BGS’s downward spiral impacted that decision - or at least the ease with which I made that decision. There’s a whole generation of collectors who not only don’t revere the BGS slab and grade, they don’t even have it on their radar. So, while seasoned collectors value the pristine 10, there’s subconsciously less value in it for me than there used to be. Not because I value it less, but because the hobby is heading in that direction.
Regardless, even at BGS’s height, I’d still probably vote for the stack. But it would’ve been a harder decision back then.
I'd usually defer to the RC because, historically, it's a chronological debut, "the first" which seems more prestigious as a fan, especially since card companies are continually rigging the game and baiting the collectors with 1/1's, SP short print releases, sub-set SP's, numbered cards etc that they're making year after year. So, I can appreciate a solid "Rookie Card" for those reasons... 'tho a 1/1 of a good design might tempt me as an investor because it's "one of a kind" so long as it's not in a series of so many similar parallel releases (various rainbow colors or minor variation versions).
For the Messi situation- that 1/1 is hands down going to be over a million dollars in under 10 years. You heard it here first. Those base Messi rookies are continuing to increase in population, because just like the junk wax era of 1990's football, they produced a ton of those cards. Those cards are going to come down quite a bit, and you'll see his autographs, patches, and especially his 1/1's continue to increase in value.
Luka Kaboom , Curry RPA, 1/1 Lionel Messi , shohei bgs pristine, burrow Kaboom… I will say this, we still are hanging on the rookie idea, when Jordan has cards 10 years after his rookie year that are worth wayyy more and way rarer.
You're forgetting to mention the damage on the Luka Kaboom that sold raw. Go look at the pictures.. How can you compare a damaged card to one NM-MT and one in Gem Mint? Condition means so much on card value.
I would rather have a base rookie that’s a PSA 10 all day long vs all these gimmick inserts.
It's gimmick sticker that's worth $1 that idiots overpay because of stupid PSA grade
collecting sports cards is a free for all and thats what I'm here for. speculating on sports cards comes with a downside. i prefer the free for all
On the first 3 examples I went with T-Pots choices. I do have to think twice when choosing against Kaboom because it’s an iconic insert.
I’m just getting back into this and learning and having fun. But I’ve been focused on numbered cards and PSA 10s that are selling for less than historical. But agree would love more insight to decide which cards…there’s such variety. Also, how can I get those stickers you have on your laptop? Those are awesome! Thanks for all the info. Love the data dives!!
BGS 10 Cury Refractor.
I’d rather have the Kaboom
Great video Mr. Teapot.
I like rarer stuff but I don't mind something like optic holo psa 10 where it has over 1k pop. Been trying collect stuff under 1k pop.
Ohtani SSP pitching follow through BGS 10
I think you got to look at what gives you the greatest value in the highest grade possible.
I'm about to grade a ton of chrome stock Wemby, which all appears to be in great condition. Should I go BGS or TAG? Please let me know guys. Thanks.
You compared a raw vs an 8 vs a 10…? A 10 kaboom is in the thousands lol. I didn’t get that Luka segment.
Love these videos, though I don't think PSA grades cards in a dark room, nor do i think they spent only "30 seconds" on that Steph Curry card.
I'd take the 1/1 if it's a Will Grier.
70% of the time, I'd take it every time 😅
Agree but the example u show there I’d take the Messi as it’s very rare over the 1/1 Messi . So many 1/1 s now will hurt that value
Hi, guys... Great video... Geoff is there anyway to get a hold of you? I have an issue with Ebay standard envelope that Ebay will not fix!!! I thought you and the team could go over it in one of your discussion shows. I am just the little guy here and have been trying for over a year to have my voice heard... Ty
To me, anything serialized will likely be the more sought after regardless of grade. I would prefer my 2022 Topps Update Black/Gold Red Border JROD /10 over the popular 2019 Bowman 1st Chrome JROD auto any day of the week.
Steph curry patch looks fire
One of One
What players would you rather have in a college uniform rather than professional uniform?
nice comparissons
Messi RC. It’s before all his accomplishments and rare
I rather have the Kaboom. You can get the red white and blue Doncic a lot easier. Somebody will pay a lot more for that Kaboom Luka. I rather have the Steph Curry auto but that’s my personal preference most of the cards I buy are Autos. I think the Autos just add a special element to every card that non Autos can’t match.
Kaboom
as a collector give the stack every time. im trying to swim in my cards like scrooge McDuck. as a reseller give me the single. something easy to get into and out of.
I love cards, but imo the bigger question, is why are people spending north of 10K on cardboard.
Why are people spending well north of 10k on stamps, plastic figurines, paper comics, etc? Because a market has been created determining that these items hold value for whatever reason- rarity, nostalgia, mania, etc
Give me the rare rookie over the rarer non-rookie every time
2004 Messi PSA 10
Aurora all day.
I also feel that PSA has tougher and more consistent grading than the other companies, at least that is the conclusion of the market. To me, a PSA grade makes a card rarer. A PSA 10 with a population of 10 on a popular card now makes that card an ( of ten), just like if the manufacturer printed 1/10 on the back of the card. Obviously the value of the card changes as the population does. I personally love the idea of having an immaculate sample of a great rookie card.
At this point I would take the Luka rc. I mean they keep producing and watering down all the kaboom and subset hits so they are becoming less and less rare, but they are not making more luka rcs
I also think you have to look at who your asking these questions to. Collectors like me don't look at it if from a monetary perspective, whereas majority of the new hobbiest only care about value and have no real connections to the card's. Money is what drives alot of these folks, not the fun or memories of actually collecting.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The barber shop Luka is clear from all of the other two. By far the most attractive of the 3
You, as a businessman, knows a card is only worth what a person is willing to pay for it.
I want rarity withe very best grade of PSA 10, bgs 10, sgc 10 then maybe bgs 9.5 if the card is Uber rare
Luka Aurora
Luka kaboom
RWB Luka
Steph NT
Messi Gold power, not sure
Ohtani BGS 10
Borrow silver 10 better flip
Every soccer collector will select mega cracks… that prizm is not iconic whatsoever. That set does not sell well at all
Tpott can you stop spilling secrets. I won’t be able to afford the slept on case hits in raw or lower grades once more people start agreeing with you 😂
A graded in a 10 is obviously gonna be worth more lol… you should compare them evenly like both raw or both in a 10
Yes, but then you’re missing the point of his argument
Megacracks Messi all the way
Only beginners like Geoff would pay more for the slab than the card
Not even a real rookie card. Its just a sticker.
Terrorist! You must not be American after that insult to the RWB 😀 Don’t forget Geoff had that Steph and bought it for 130k and looks like it’s down to 90k. Rookie cards have and always been the better card to keep. Long term, with as many 1/1s there are for each player, not many care about it. T-Pott trying to pump lower grades in this video and last 😀 Thanks for sharing Brother!
If you pay 5x for anything a guy making $11.00 appraises you are a fool. The same guy who forgot your fries is grading your cards.
Collect the card, not the grade
I thought this was an investment channel? Not a would you rather. And get someone who actually knows Basketball on your channel. How are you going to have a bunch of guys that don’t hoop, telling kids who next up is in the NBA?? Giving your bias opinions to boost your own PC collections. With no actual personal knowledge of the game 🤡✌🏻
RCs have always been king. . . Many of these “rare” inserts can still be printed. No one is printing rookies anymore. For example, kabooms are so common now. I would not buy any unless they are RC years. But you folks are part of the problem as “hot cards” should always be RAW! Stop the excuses about conditions, just average the sales prices. Prices should be on the cards themselves! Rarity should be based on print runs first. I laugh when a “hot” card’s price is less than the cost it costs just to grade it! Does that mean that a card worth $15 in a PSA 10 is worth NEGATIVE $5 raw since it cost $20 just to slab it? Ridiculous!
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Kaboom