For different reasons. Modern F1 is a pinnacle of vehicle dynamics development and G loading, vintage F1 is a more visceral experience, better noises and a more intricate man/machine relationship. I put my foot firmly in the vintage camp, though I remain in awe of what any F1 car from the early '00s can do.
@@StarkRaven59 More in the modern F1 camp myself, i love the look of modern f1 cars. Obviously the sound and aggresion of vintage F1 is incredible. The cars are just lap after lap of controlled chaos, its pretty cool too.
@@StarkRaven59 That's a good way to put it. Modern F1 cars are highly refined engineering achievements. The vintage cars are...well, they're engineering achievements too, but they're brute-force engineering achievements, and death traps to boot. I'll take the death trap, given my druthers. :-)
@@39KHall Mechanical grip versus aerodynamic grip is a very interesting dichotomy. As for death traps, I prefer them motorcycles, and people slide those around plenty too.
Graham Hill said of the H16 (which he drove in '66); "It had a lot of power ... but we couldn't always keep the power inside the engine."! Then when he moved to Lotus for '67, they started the season powered by the BRM H16 because the Cosworth wasn't ready yet. The H16 won only one race, the '66 USGP, in a Lotus 43. Ironically, the Lotus blew its engine before the race .. so BRM lent them one!
It's amazing that in 20 years, things are not that much better than 1998's GPL with community mods. Of course, GPL had active flagmen. GPL had the best crash physics, since neutered by licencing agreements. The only problem GPL had was incorrect tyre slip angles.
"you feel like youre making it up as you go along" thats probably the best way ive heard to describe how you drive these old bias ply tire, no aero race cars. you just wrestle it from one moment to the next.
That's a track with quite a bit of run off for 1967. You get a decent bit of sand before you encounter the usual 1960s trackside furniture such as telegraph poles, barbed wire fences, stone walls and (of course) spectators
Dude, how can you drive like that as well as give full-non stop commentary at the same time?! I struggle to string a coherent sentence when I’m sat still even! Impressive!
The H16 engine was not two V8s bolted together, otherwise they would not form a H. You can imagine it as two straight fours mounted at an 180° angle with another set of two straight fours added on top of them for good measure.
The brm h16 was more like two flat 8's on top of each other or two very wide v8's that were almost flat. The two crankshafts where joined together by a straight cut gear and they shared a crank case. Looking at a diagram there is no wonder why it was so unrealiable but still very cool and interesting.
'The engine was designed by a team consisting of Peter Berthon, Harry Mundy, Eric Richter, and Frank May. It was conceived as basically two 750cc V8 engines back-to-back with cam drives and gears in the centre of the engine.'
Love the video jimmy. Just one thing. It seems that you have unfortunately used the old cars. This is the old 1.4 version of the mod. Not the new version 2.0. Cheers.
Thank you Jimmy... As an old schooler of GP2, GP3 and GP Legends. Just this year got back into sim racing with ACC, what a treat to discover this! £6.25 for Assetto Corsa on stream and then this exquisite FREE mod. Perfect.
Uploaded this pack and have been having a ball. A few of the drivers were still active when I started following F1 so it's been fun revisiting the era of truly brave men.
What fun, takes me back playing GPL in competition. The cars are an utter handful, they can break, and bias ply street tires. Serious hot rods! Everyone gets to drift drive! (sometimes thats the only way to slow the car down so you dont over speed the apex..)
I was hoping you'd get round to doing this mod. I had commented on another video posted by a guy named Chris Haye that this mod was a thing of beauty, and it is even more so in action. So much so that I've repeated the vid. Another thing is that apparently it also has old school tracks like this one and the old Riverside circuit, which I don't think has ever been done on any racing game or sim before, and they all have adverts from the period which is completely brilliant. One of these days, I hope to get Assetto on a PC that does the game justice and get this mod, it's very reminiscent of Grand Prix Legends. I still have a copy of that game somewhere, if I get to find it I'll try to play it again some time. In the meantime, thank you for posting the vid, and remember - FULL YEEEEETTTT!!!!!
First of all, great video Jimmy, that really looks like a fun mod to drive. Second of all, what the hell is marcos ligato doing there in 10th place? Jajajajajaja, for those who dont know him, he's an argentinian rally car driver from this era, that definitely made my day.
The thing about the 1967 cars were that they fully took advantage of the new engine regulations introduced in 1966. For the early 60s F1 cars were very underpowered with small 1.5L engines. The 3.0L regs unleashed the engineers and allowed them to create absolute rocketships.
True. However the 1.5 L ones were just some 30 kph slower as top speed and they didn't have to deal with constant oversteering in all gears.... kinda "more human" maybe. Now I know that the rFactor v1 mods I play with can't stand the comparison with A.C. about physics at all, but the point is that I keep switching from 1967 to 1965 and back and can't decide which I like best... Different cars, different strategies, but equally delightful.
Nice to see love for GTL; for me it was a no brainer since I adored GPL so much. Securom really blunted its appeal. I wonder if I still have the disk somewhere...
@@bbb462cid I had lost the one of the disks but I managed to get a code to redeem it on steam. I just asked on the Simsin page and was surprised when I actually got it.
That's the thing that I loved about old F1 cars. You really had to get up on the wheel and properly drive those things. Now I'm not saying that driving a modern F1 is easy, but I guarantee you that if Lewis Hamilton tried to drive a 60's F1 car, he would not have an easy time.
This man deserves some love man. He works hard to make videos for us, and he only has 589.000 subs, not bad honestly but he still deserves mcuh more. Lets help him get up guys
h16 is a flat v8 on top of another connected by an intermediate gear, and the main problem was that the pistons were really small, because all engines were 1.5L i think, and had to rev really high to make power.
Nice! Try not to drive the old cars like you do a modern. They don't like the wild throttle input and you need to set the car up before the corner and follow through with SMOOTH power inputs. Will make life easier
The 1966/67 season BRM P83 and BRM P115 introduced at Nurburgring in the 67 season were both 6 speed gear boxes... so you may have been cheating yourself of some valuable performance at bridgehampton if you only geared to 5!
The Matra MS7 & the McLaren M5A are a Formula 2 cars not Formula 1 cars. Also I see MK3424 noticed it as well, the BRM should have a six speed transmission. If I'm going to race the 67s, GPL is my choice. The first & best for historic F1& F2 racing.
Just found out today that in 1968 Honda raced a magnesium-skinned car in f1 (RA302) and yes it did crash and burn killing Jo Schlesser - google for the images . Racing a magnesium petrol bathtub is a test of a chaps metal !
also, when John Surtees (1964 F1 Champion) tested the car, he said the car was unstable and very hard to drive, and refused to drive it until improvements were made. He also suggested to rebuild it with a aluminium frame instead of magnesium as it was flammable What happened next proved he was right...
Modern F1: If you slide you have about a quarter of a second to save it or it's going around.
Vintage F1: If you ain't sliding, you're losing time.
And both are equally cool. :D
For different reasons. Modern F1 is a pinnacle of vehicle dynamics development and G loading, vintage F1 is a more visceral experience, better noises and a more intricate man/machine relationship. I put my foot firmly in the vintage camp, though I remain in awe of what any F1 car from the early '00s can do.
@@StarkRaven59 More in the modern F1 camp myself, i love the look of modern f1 cars. Obviously the sound and aggresion of vintage F1 is incredible. The cars are just lap after lap of controlled chaos, its pretty cool too.
@@StarkRaven59 That's a good way to put it. Modern F1 cars are highly refined engineering achievements. The vintage cars are...well, they're engineering achievements too, but they're brute-force engineering achievements, and death traps to boot. I'll take the death trap, given my druthers. :-)
@@39KHall Mechanical grip versus aerodynamic grip is a very interesting dichotomy. As for death traps, I prefer them motorcycles, and people slide those around plenty too.
Graham Hill said of the H16 (which he drove in '66); "It had a lot of power ... but we couldn't always keep the power inside the engine."! Then when he moved to Lotus for '67, they started the season powered by the BRM H16 because the Cosworth wasn't ready yet. The H16 won only one race, the '66 USGP, in a Lotus 43. Ironically, the Lotus blew its engine before the race .. so BRM lent them one!
I love watching dangerous bathtubs before I sleep
Is that because when you get it wrong, your utterly and completely fucked? :)
@@kcosgrovelakers depends which you'd rather have in your mouth i guess?
Saaame
THICC Brit takes WILD bath with 60's Boiz
*ｔｈｉｃｃ*
Thicc British Boi punts new Zealanders (1967,colorized)
:(
Pretty accurate
RIP
10:23 *Eurobeat Intensifies*
Forza 0314 YEETING in the ‘60s!!
Was gonna coment exactly the same
Still better reliability than danny ric boi red bull
oof too soon
@@danmiller7888 The season's ended.
F
And Renault
It's amazing that in 20 years, things are not that much better than 1998's GPL with community mods. Of course, GPL had active flagmen. GPL had the best crash physics, since neutered by licencing agreements. The only problem GPL had was incorrect tyre slip angles.
"Oh gosh... oh gosh... oh gosh... SAVED!" 10:24
Of all people Chris Amon, didn't he have enough bad luck Jimmy? Lived through this era, the best. Greatly appreciated and done my man.
Mini season would be very entertaining, Bridgehampton, Rouen, Watkins Glen, ( period ) Kyalami Circuit, Zandvoort etc
"you feel like youre making it up as you go along"
thats probably the best way ive heard to describe how you drive these old bias ply tire, no aero race cars. you just wrestle it from one moment to the next.
"You've got to be smoooooth Jimmy" -Jackie Stewart
That's a track with quite a bit of run off for 1967. You get a decent bit of sand before you encounter the usual 1960s trackside furniture such as telegraph poles, barbed wire fences, stone walls and (of course) spectators
Also the dug in tyres seem to be quite drive-through-able. I remember many ended races of mine due to them bastards in Mexico.
@@Nautzki And Le Mans...
All that's missing are the bales of hay or straw
10:15 when your teammate gives up and your driving style becomes godlike
Obviously an imposter then considering Jackie Stewart
Dude, how can you drive like that as well as give full-non stop commentary at the same time?! I struggle to string a coherent sentence when I’m sat still even! Impressive!
you should go back and play some Grand Prix Legends, it holds up amazingly well!
Sure does the OG sim racer is still king.
The H16 engine was not two V8s bolted together, otherwise they would not form a H. You can imagine it as two straight fours mounted at an 180° angle with another set of two straight fours added on top of them for good measure.
even crazier
The brm h16 was more like two flat 8's on top of each other or two very wide v8's that were almost flat. The two crankshafts where joined together by a straight cut gear and they shared a crank case. Looking at a diagram there is no wonder why it was so unrealiable but still very cool and interesting.
@@thriceguys
I had totally forgotten that the engine had two crankshafts - thank you!
@Benjamin Gagné
Pretty much. I tried to avoid the term flat 8 because I do not know what the firing order of the H16 was.
'The engine was designed by a team consisting of Peter Berthon, Harry Mundy, Eric Richter, and Frank May. It was conceived as basically two 750cc V8 engines back-to-back with cam drives and gears in the centre of the engine.'
GP Legends was such a great game!
flipmode74 it still is! :D
It has some crazy old tracks as well that have not been seen in more recent games
Mosport is like a roller coaster!
...and still is...
Sure is. Shouldn't the BRM have six gears? Great video Jimmer.
Love the video jimmy. Just one thing. It seems that you have unfortunately used the old cars. This is the old 1.4 version of the mod. Not the new version 2.0. Cheers.
He might do a comparison of. 1.4 and 2.0 vote up this post if you want to see it, maybe we can convince him to do that!
It’s a vintage GP, better use the older cars.
what is the difference though
@@polyphonydigital new models, model updates, new sounds, updated physics, lots
@@drdoomslab nice
OUTSTANDING !
10:26 RUNNING IN THE 60s
4:43 Damn haha! Skills dude!
Thank you Jimmy... As an old schooler of GP2, GP3 and GP Legends. Just this year got back into sim racing with ACC, what a treat to discover this! £6.25 for Assetto Corsa on stream and then this exquisite FREE mod. Perfect.
The movement in the wheel is like he's driving for the A Team!
By far my favourite era of F1. Seen the Lotus 49 a few times at Goodwood. Majestic. I was obsessed neither GPL back in the day of software refering ;)
Same
There was some nice saves there. I love these classic races, it looks so exciting.
This is some high-octane action. The VR adds to that I think, makes the passes look more death-defying.
I bought GPL when it came out in 98. Great sim, requiring excellent car control! The H16 of the BRM was unreliable and heavy. Cheers!!!
Nice save on that slide!!! Sideways bathtub!
Honestly one of the best mods on AC right now.
Definitely as far as free mods go.
Try this: www.mediafire.com/file/im2a4v34s1za92q/20181207+AC+1967+Grand+Prix+Legends+Mod+version+2.15.rar
10:26 oh my Allah!! what a save!!! Great save like the old guys
Uploaded this pack and have been having a ball. A few of the drivers were still active when I started following F1 so it's been fun revisiting the era of truly brave men.
A punt and a huge save...good show
That drift life @10:24 . Amazing save Jimmy !
Awesome Dude that was great. I love that time in racing, thanks.
So many sick saves Jimmer, that was fun to watch
*enters left-hander
*turns right
*confused screaming
*makes corner
Please more races at this track please. Looks so much fun to drive
this is a great mod these things are hell fun to drive, lotsa power and low grip. physics are really nice on these.
these cars on this track look like an absolute blast!
GPL (heavily modded) is still on my good PC's hard drive.
Can you send me a copy? Modded i mean. I can give you my mail! 🙂
@@tiziano316 Me too!
What fun, takes me back playing GPL in competition. The cars are an utter handful, they can break, and bias ply street tires. Serious hot rods! Everyone gets to drift drive! (sometimes thats the only way to slow the car down so you dont over speed the apex..)
10:24 thats the way how the cookie crumbles. Drift master. Best part in race 😅
Love these vintage races shows what massive bollocks those guys had.
A car from F1's golden age! Nice driving, Mr. Broadbent.
Racing these with subscribers would be carnage!!
I was hoping you'd get round to doing this mod. I had commented on another video posted by a guy named Chris Haye that this mod was a thing of beauty, and it is even more so in action. So much so that I've repeated the vid. Another thing is that apparently it also has old school tracks like this one and the old Riverside circuit, which I don't think has ever been done on any racing game or sim before, and they all have adverts from the period which is completely brilliant. One of these days, I hope to get Assetto on a PC that does the game justice and get this mod, it's very reminiscent of Grand Prix Legends. I still have a copy of that game somewhere, if I get to find it I'll try to play it again some time. In the meantime, thank you for posting the vid, and remember - FULL YEEEEETTTT!!!!!
First of all, great video Jimmy, that really looks like a fun mod to drive. Second of all, what the hell is marcos ligato doing there in 10th place? Jajajajajaja, for those who dont know him, he's an argentinian rally car driver from this era, that definitely made my day.
Great stuff from one of the best eras in F1
The thing about the 1967 cars were that they fully took advantage of the new engine regulations introduced in 1966. For the early 60s F1 cars were very underpowered with small 1.5L engines. The 3.0L regs unleashed the engineers and allowed them to create absolute rocketships.
True. However the 1.5 L ones were just some 30 kph slower as top speed and they didn't have to deal with constant oversteering in all gears.... kinda "more human" maybe.
Now I know that the rFactor v1 mods I play with can't stand the comparison with A.C. about physics at all, but the point is that I keep switching from 1967 to 1965 and back and can't decide which I like best... Different cars, different strategies, but equally delightful.
Ahhhh...always entertaining Jimmy!! I remember when you had 10k subscribers. Now nearly 175k!
Initial D ‘67 Episode 1: Bathtubs At Bridgehampton
Awesome video Jimmy! I’m not sure if you’ve already done this but I would love to see a video of modern F1 cars on vintage tracks.
This are your best videos Jimmy, bring more!!
Grand Prix Legends cars for Assetto Corsa?! My dreams have come true! Thanks a lot for this video!
2:27 Bruce Mclaren if i'm not mistaken, always end up in a fight with him when i play GPL
"What an idiot!" -Alonso
GPL and GTL are great! We need more historic racing games.
Nice to see love for GTL; for me it was a no brainer since I adored GPL so much. Securom really blunted its appeal. I wonder if I still have the disk somewhere...
@@bbb462cid I had lost the one of the disks but I managed to get a code to redeem it on steam. I just asked on the Simsin page and was surprised when I actually got it.
@@LeonardoBruno54 awesome, thanks for the tip!
@@bbb462cid that was a long time ago, you can still try tho.
What's gtl?
Jimmer always have a unique intro. This was one of the best.
That's the thing that I loved about old F1 cars. You really had to get up on the wheel and properly drive those things. Now I'm not saying that driving a modern F1 is easy, but I guarantee you that if Lewis Hamilton tried to drive a 60's F1 car, he would not have an easy time.
That is the most badass save jimmy
This is the content I subbed for. Good play!
"Bazza" The god of assetto corsa historic mods
Great saves, Jim! And very good mod.
Terrifying, you said. True! And addicting. I played GPL for a long time. What a marvelous simulation. The starting grid still gives me the creeps.
Jamble Wanglebork I 100% 1967 series?
Jimmy needs to do this!
Definitely one of the more terrifying T1s. Rouen's first turn is similarly scary.
that was the most entertaining video ive seen in a while
Love to see this around a Goodwood track!
Lightning Mcqueen: I turn right, but I go to the left.
Jimmy: hold my bathtub on wheels.
THIS LOOKS AWESOME
Kudos man. I would definitely throw up driving this beast in VR before the end of first lap xD
Good example of driving by force of will!
The updated historic’s are sick. 👍🏻😎
4:44 When the postman rings your doorbell
This man deserves some love man. He works hard to make videos for us, and he only has 589.000 subs, not bad honestly but he still deserves mcuh more. Lets help him get up guys
Congrats on your new job as GTPlanet Contributing Writer! Can't wait for your first article!
h16 is a flat v8 on top of another connected by an intermediate gear, and the main problem was that the pistons were really small, because all engines were 1.5L i think, and had to rev really high to make power.
That corner entrance at 10:25 tho......👌
Oh, can you please do some more Asseto Corsa GP Legends, Jimmy? I loved this video!!!
The BRM is supposed to have 6 gears...
Yea, Pappy's BRM had 6, and it needed it! That engine had no torque until right before it wanted to blow up.
I think I remember a comment about "rowing the car around the track" to keep the RPMs in range.
I know the P115 (which is the BRM in GPL) had six gears. Maybe the P83 only had five?
Nice! Try not to drive the old cars like you do a modern. They don't like the wild throttle input and you need to set the car up before the corner and follow through with SMOOTH power inputs. Will make life easier
love this! Can't believe you fulfilled a dream video request xD
That was one of your best videos :D!
That looked really fun!
absolutely excellent video
The 1966/67 season BRM P83 and BRM P115 introduced at Nurburgring in the 67 season were both 6 speed gear boxes... so you may have been cheating yourself of some valuable performance at bridgehampton if you only geared to 5!
The Matra MS7 & the McLaren M5A are a Formula 2 cars not Formula 1 cars. Also I see MK3424 noticed it as well, the BRM should have a six speed transmission.
If I'm going to race the 67s, GPL is my choice. The first & best for historic F1& F2 racing.
5:09 RIP, Ferrari driver...
Always love watching your videos!!!! Keep them coming!
Devious recoveries gawdammit!
Just tried the lotus on ps4 assetto corsa and god dammm...thats hard to drive. Great job jimmy
Thanks to you i got the bug for racing games again. I ordered a wheel bought forza7 and Asseto Corsa this morning :)
I would love to see Jimmy race around Monaco with this mod.
Just found out today that in 1968 Honda raced a magnesium-skinned car in f1 (RA302) and yes it did crash and burn killing Jo Schlesser - google for the images . Racing a magnesium petrol bathtub is a test of a chaps metal !
also, when John Surtees (1964 F1 Champion) tested the car, he said the car was unstable and very hard to drive, and refused to drive it until improvements were made. He also suggested to rebuild it with a aluminium frame instead of magnesium as it was flammable
What happened next proved he was right...
It was also Schlesser's F1 debut, which makes the whole affair even more tragic
Just a brilliant mod. I love it.
Play the original GP Legends... what a fun game, is very cool and the simulation is satisfatory for an old game!
Brilliant video!
I REFUSE!!!! XD
Oh my friggen yes jimmie so much love for GPL content plleeease keep em comin
Dude that slide in 10:27 was fucking beautiful be it luck or not