Sonic Adventure 2 is STILL great! (History & Retrospective) | Coop's Re-Reviews
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Here it is, the long awaited and very lengthy re-review of Sonic Adventure 2!
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0:00:00 - Title Screen(s)
0:01:25 - Development
0:11:48 - First experiences with SA2
0:13:40 - Story
0:50:45 - Voice Acting / Cutscenes
0:59:26 - Gameplay
1:08:55 - Soundtrack
1:16:32 - Hero Levels
1:40:22 - Dark Levels
1:56:20 - Bosses
2:00:17 - Last Story
2:11:02 - Multiplayer
2:15:41 - Missions / Emblems
2:20:29 - Chao Garden
2:31:24 - 180 Emblems Reward
2:34:04 - Conclusion
2:36:15 - Battle/HD Ports
2:39:37 - Closing Words
2:40:30 - End Card
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Sorry for the long wait. Do you guys prefer SA1 or SA2?
while everyone says that SA2 is better, i gotta admit that i prefer SA1. sonic tails and knuckles are really fun to play as in the first game imo while I only enjoyed a handful of the sonic/shadow stages from SA2
Adventure 1
Imo I prefer adventure 1 as a game but I love sonic adventure 2 story more
i think Sa2 has better story and characters but i prefer the gameplay of Sa1 way more
SA1! But i adore SA2 sooooo much
This will be my background music while I work on Storyboarding tonight. I look forward to watching this video my friend!
Easily my favorite SA2 review. You clearly love the Sonic franchise and it shows. This is one of the best Sonic games of all time and I'm glad you dedicated so much time and work to give it a worthy review
I wanted to point an interesting thing out. Final Rush also appears in the Shadow the Hedgehog game, with the stage being called "The Ark". You start in the tunnel that you rocket out of at the beginning, and if you try playing the stages side by side you will see they are set in the same area.
The music is also just Final Rush Bad Future
@@simonplatt5108 Yep, I noticed that.
Mama Mia, that length.
SA2 playlist boutta get really loaded.
*Mama Maria
Finished the video and this was so well put together!!!
Still know emi you song my way will be a banger great 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Whoa is this the longest video you've made yet? my hands off to you for reaching such a milestone.
Excited to watch through the video btw
Longer than Exoparadigmgamer's Sonic Unleashed review
Cooper, I am literally begging you to put out an extended video just talking about the voice acting and the credits all of these actors deserve. I WILL listen
SA2 is actually my top favorite sonic game in the series,great job on the review cooper!
Probably the most in-depth and longest review of SA2 I've ever watched. Nice work! 👏🏼👏🏼 Go treat yourself cause you definitely deserve one! 👍🏼
Yep, even longer than Ruby of Blue’s SA2 story analysis.
Why do SA2 reviews tend to be so long?
This is by far the longest Sonic Adventure 2 retrospective video I've ever seen
You are literally the first person ever to talk about the 10 minute mark during the final boss of both the Hero & Dark Story I remember not knowing about that and finding it out for myself for the first time many years ago other people have never said anything about this in their own SA2 retrospective videos
The voice casting is amazing
Plot adding, the theory behind tone shift of shadow is because during Robotnik's arrest, shadow was captured by G.U.N hence why he was in the holding cell and Robotnik was forced to continue his work for GUN under strict supervision, in that time he found out Maria was one of the many that died on the space colony and he lost his purpose. He became very angry and secretly changed the code for the colony and shadow to destroy the earth, changing shadows memories to want to end humans. Amy recites part of Maria's speech and thats when he realises what he promised. He was never made for the downfall of the earth.
Sonic Adventure 2 gave us the most popular character in the franchise next to Sonic
The President
Sa2 is my favorite game ever but even I didn't know a lot of the facts u listed in the video about the game which is cool
So that's what you've been doing all this time? Making a long review of our favourite game?
Now I know who you are: You're the TH-camr Coopercastille, aren't you!?
Cooper: "No, I'm not playing the fandub clip"
Me: My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
Oh boy, this is going to be an exciting watch!
My theory on why Rouge and Eggman never confronted Shadow for double crossing them into getting the Chaos Emeralds for him to use the Eclipse Cannon to destroy all of humanity and the world was because they were oblivious but the question is if Shadow knew that inserting all of the emeralds into the slots of the Cannon would trigger the warning message from Gerald Robotnik
32:21 The music getting louder over the characters voices and Sonic cutting off Shadow is also genius. 😂
I really love this video. can't wait for the five hour sonic unleashed review
Really Like your reviews. You really look back upon mistakes and try your best to improve. Btw Cooper what do you think of the Sonic prime cast? I personally think they are great. I really like shadows voice actor Ian Hanlin who is my favorite Shadow voice of all time. Plus the portrayal of him in prime is really great he really is the anti hero in the story.
Sonic Adventure 2 was revealed a day before your second birthday and that is probably the coolest parallel to The Bouncer being released before my first birthday.
I really enjoy your longer reviews! It’s mostly just because I like listening to you. Rambling or otherwise, your charisma sells these videos as usual!
Looking forward to the next one. Keep up the good work!
I just finished watching the review and it is very detailed and well made. I will see you in the Sonic Advance 2 review.
I’ve been waiting for this
Me too
Same here!
Hey!
I care about the voice acting, and I really appreciate that you go into it!
In which why I prefer Amy Rose from Sonic adventure 1. Amy's characterization of went downhill starting with Sonic adventure 2 beginning to evolutionary step of what would come in the future. Especially during the 2010s and beyond. Or simply The Meta Era.
Story wise yeah but I hated her gameplay.
the maria thing was kind of addressed in sonic frontiers. egg memo 17 " I never really knew my cousin, Maria. Everyone spoke of her like she was very special. All that love for someone who was gone when I was! Right! There! But I have to wonder. Back then, was she anything like Sage is now?" I used the english dialogue.
taking what he said as true he might of only known of her and his grandfather. I don't think anything implies he had a close personal relationship with his grandfather but he certainly looked up to him.
18:02 the reason why I specifically complained about it is because in shadow the hedgehog (2005)
the general of GUN was just a boy when he first laid eyes on shadow 50 years ago.
And on top of that was close friends with Maria, and blames shadow for her death.
Two things, while I partly understand why he would blame shadow why are you the general of the government that put the bullet in Maria’s back?
And two, if the general has been holding a grudge against shadow, for that long, and has known him since his creation, THEN WHY WAS SONIC ARRESTED IN THE FIRST PLACE?!
You could argue that he probably didn’t have a clear photographic memory, but I’m pretty sure he would remember that the thing that “killed Maria” would be a black hedgehog.
My theory is that he just told his soldiers to capture Sonic when he was told of a giant hedgehog roaming the streets of station square, or central city, or San Francisco, or wherever the game takes place in.
i think it's so goofy but makes the animation so lively that they used motion capture for the cutscenes
23:42 This scene might be a mistranslation, because in the Japanese version, Shadow said that negotiations with the president had failed meaning this took place after Sonic interrupted the call when he barged in the President's limo while he was talking to Eggman.
17:05
They don’t know true art. That’s what.
I remember reading up apparently Ohtani also did the lyrics for the raps in the Knuckles levels. Not sure if its sourced but given all the Engrish, I'm lead to believe there is truth to it.
I'm not sure where the idea Gerald was immediately executed after he was brought into custody but he wasn't.
He was made to continue working on Shadow after he was collected after the ARK raid. He was only executed after GUN caught wind of his doomsday plot, which he only started after he found out Maria wasbamong those killed on the ARK when it was shut down.
I'm also not sure how Amy's character is regressed in SA2 compared to SA1. Is it just because she isn''t playable?
Overall loving the video!!!
Ryan Drummond = GOATED voice of Sonic
Ah a fellow Mad Space despiser, good to see
FYI, if Jet Set Radio was called Jet Grind Radio in North America, it's because of copyright problems with the title "Jet Set". I've also heard somewhere that there was a Radio station in North America called "Jet Set Radio", and they didn't wanted to have problems with that radio station, but I'm not sure of that info, take it with a grain of salt.
42:31 I forgot where I heard this but Gerald Robotnik had travelled around the world for his work which explains the differencebetween the bio lizard and shadow,in SA1's Lost World level there is a mural of chaos on the wall so Gerald must have based the bio lizard off of chaos.Then in S3&K in Hidden Palace Zone during knuckles' boss fight you can see another mural,this time of super sonic versus robotnik,so shadow was based off super sonic judging by things like his quills pointing up.
41:42 I’m pretty sure it was said somewhere that while Gerald and Shadow were imprisoned, GUN still had him working on project shadow and during that time he tampered with Shadow’s mind to ensure his plans would be carried out if Shadow was ever released. He was executed later when GUN started getting suspicious of him but didn’t find out specifically what he did to Shadow and The Ark. Amy’s words just triggered the memories that were repressed by Gerald.
Amazing
My personal take on the Mech Shooting gameplay is that Eggman's stages are pretty fun and well designed most of the time, but Tails' stages are mostly frustrating and poorly designed.
I have to wait till I’ve personally completed the game to watch this 😅
1:38:26 I don't think those are a reference to the tubes in Chemical Plant Zone, I think they're actually a reference to those yellow ring zero-G warp transporter thingies that zip you around the place in Death Egg Zone in Sonic 3. Eggman was obviously inspired by the ARK when designing the Death Egg so that might be something he took from it.
EDIT: @coopercastille One small misconception in both of your sa2 reviews was that the game graded you on whether you got hit via losing rings, the game only grades you on your score and your time, meaning that you can as many hits in a stage like final rush and still get an A rank as long as your fast enough and get a lot of points without dying, same goes for heroes, also this had me thinking, if you had known about this years ago, you’d have a much better time with most of the A ranks LOL, wish we both of us knew about this earlier honestly, also I never really commented about this before since it never had really bothered me, just wanna make sure you shortly address this in your heroes video
Aquatic Mine is the closest thing we'll ever get to an official 3D version of Labyrinth Zone.
I’m so old that my brain still registers the Sonic Adventure games as “new” Sonic. Goddamn.
I like Sonic Adventure 2, one of my favorite Sonic game under Sonic Mania Plus.
I like all gameplay, however there are some nitpicks I have.
- Like running in pipes with Sonic and Shadow can be jank.
- Trying to LightDash but instead I do a Somersault.
- Mechs turning
- Electric Shield attracting rings which affects doing the LightDash.
- Mechs lock on not being too great since I have to jump.
- Rouge’s last stage with the gravity being annoying.
- Shadow’s last stage’s gimmick.
- Janky rails
- Camera which can go behind walls or ground which can be annoying.
- Artificial Chaos’…
I do think a massive mod could improve this game, maybe years down the line I could make it.
- Fix the sound mixing for the cutscenes.
- Make the characters not cut off each other.
- Improve the game’s lighting, and make it brighter at least, especially for the Aquatic Mine Zone.
- Share the same character model for all the cutscenes.
- Improve the character model by increasing the poly count.
- Also just improve the designs…like Amys…
- Remap Sonic & Shadow’s movesets.
Spindash - B button
Lightspeed Dash - B button
Lightspeed Attack - B button
Somersault - X button
Bounce - X button
- Improved momentum gameplay for Sonic & Shadow.
- Improved rail grinding to be less jank.
- Better turning for Tails & Eggman’s mech.
- Better mech lock on.
- Remove the annoying enemies that surprise attack the character.
- Make it so the player can’t homing attack on a ghost in Eggman’s pyramid, they’re annoying.
- Nerf King BoomBoom
- Make the meteors in Meteor Herd Zone less annoying.
- Give Shadow the Bounce upgrade.
- Give Rouge a Water Necklace (what was it called?)
- Improved camera to be less crappy.
- Let multiplayer characters be playable in the actual stages.
Amy be playable in Sonic’s stages
Metal Sonic be playable in Shadow in his stages
Tikal be playable in Knuckles stages
Chaos 0 in Rouge’s stages
Good Chao in Tails stages
Dark Chao in Eggman’s stage
- Nerf Artificial Chaos
This is what I want in an improvement mod.
1:50:21
Ngl, this is one of my fave Treasure Hunting levels.
Also, on my second playthrough, I got an A rank on my first try. Same goes for Egg Quarters.
Nice
The King has returned with another 2 hour long rant about multi-colored cartoon rodents
I love Sonics character in this game! If this were prime sonic he probably would of forgotten all about chaos control then blew up lol
23:10 Missed opportunities :(
If you want a better time with treasure hunting use the hints I beat mad space 3 time in a row with a ranks now mad space is my favorite level
Yay :D
I WANT THE SOAP SHOE PLUSH DESPERATELY 😭
Sonic Adventure 1>Sonic Adventure 2
I've played sa2 on Dreamcast then the GameCube and now I'm trying to beat it on Pc😅
1:25:45
Please don’t tell me this is like the Reddit color debate, as that looks like Pink to me.
WHAT?!
can you do sonic rush
I’ll come back later to finish the video, 1:02:00.
1:32:11
I never noticed that before
1:33:05
Nor this
Who else watched the game cutscenes on TH-cam at a young age?
BRO WHY DIDNT YOU MENTION “THE ARK” FROM SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG WHEN TALKING ABT FINAL RUSH
You better get back to the mic to say how amazing that remix is
I swear it feels like the A rank criteria is intentionally placed just out of range of the average player’s capability. Like ik it’s supposed to be hard but damn! I get so close but so far and it pisses me off.
Can we all go pray for cobanermani456 tonight? He is going through another schizophrenic episode, I hope he can get better yall. I grew up watching him and it’s sad to see this
Did you... seriously make this longer than the old Unleashed video?
I'm enjoying this video so far but I am disappointed that you JUST got done defending the story of SA2, and then at 41:51 you've totally forgotten that Shadow's memories were altered by Gerald Robotnik. Of course Shadow forgot his promise to Maria, he didn't have much say in the matter lol.
The same goes for not getting how Gerald make his ARK plan work out. You even point out the writing on the wall of his prison cell, and Sonic's cell earlier in the game, but you don't add 2+2 together that he was clearly still working on Project Shadow the whole time. Or at least making GUN believe he was working on Project Shadow.
I'll go back to enjoying the video now. I always love hours long video essays sharing love for SA2B, it was one of the first Sonic games I'd played and the first Gamecube game I ever owned.
When does it ever say that Gerald was altering Shadow's memories?
Jesus Christ an almost 3 hour review of Sonic Adventure 2? Sign me up ❤
Wow the voice acting in SA2 is really good. Shame the mixing is trash.
1:54:40
1:56:48 no it isn't
Coopenheimer
What does this mean
Oppenheimer was 3 hour long movie, I was off by about 19 minutes lol
Naoto is pronounced Naw-oh-toe. The way you pronounce it hurts me