Break up with your girlfriend def feels autobiographical because Ariana has such a history of it, but I don't think we should've known. I def think people can write songs from a different perspective. Lana has dealer despite having a great relationship with her father, Ethel Cain has a full album built around events happening to a character she created. Song writing doesn't always have to be from your own perspective.
The true meaning behind BUWYGIB is not about what the majority thinks it's about. It's actually about Ariana telling the man to break up with his girlfriend so that she can be with HER. The girlfriend in question being Ariana herself, hence why they both look identical in the music video. It's just a silly little self love anthem as stated by Ariana herself, nothing more nothing less.
@@bratzscene3131 you honest to God want me to believe that after all of the cheating? And did you not watch the video? She literally says this in it. You're just here to respond to Ariana comments
I think "Beautiful Liar" by Beyoncé and Shakira is one of the best examples of a song that addresses cheating but doesn't have the women tear each other down. Both women realize they are the "other" woman and come together to confront the man who is cheating on both of them, and that's a refreshing perspective (even if it came out 13 years ago) I really love your videos, you always present information in a really engaging way :)
I think Beautiful Liar is the healthier, more mature version of The Boy is Mine because it's about two woman, instead of fighting over a man, is saying, "This man ain't shit and we shouldn't waste our time fighting over a man who is playing the two of us."
Taylor Swift also has a song on Red called Girl at Home where she’s telling the man to not get comfortable with her and rejecting his advances because he has a “girl at home and everybody knows it”
Body do- Is a side chic hot girl summer anthem. But to be fair Chloe does say she’s tired of fighting and her partner games. At the time she craves affection. Even though she caves into delusions of comparison and compromise as she tries to validate her actions . In short a classic romance bop
Ariana Grande also has a song (although written by Harry Styles) called ‘Just a little bit of your heart’ where she acknowledges that she is sharing the man with another woman but recognizes that a ‘i know i’m not your only but at least i’m one, i heard a little love is better than none’ kind of in the same sentiment as SZA in Weekend.
@@cheeryberrie yeah she talked abt it a lot. Most of the song was just poking fun but also aiming to be a song of the summer hit bc she knew the public would love it cause it was catchy. A lot of the lines were also satire of the medias depiction of her cause prior misogynyst would say she was a princess trying to be edgy in her “Sk8ter Boi” and “Under My Skin” era. So she kinda took it and rebranded it to make it empowering and something she would use in her music going forward aka “I am the mother fucking Princess.” The song also marked her beginning into showing her feminine side which started in her Under My Skin era when she started wearing skirts. This era was supposed to be like “I can be edgy and girly” and showing her fun and pop side with the punk aspects still in tact. I love this album it’s what got me into her music and made me a die hard fan.
"Illicit affairs" is definitely from the perspective of the other woman and not from the perspective of someone that is cheating. She sings about leaving the perfume on the shelf that she picked out just for him so that she doesn't leave a trace behind, and in the bridge she sings "you taught me a secret language you know I can't speak with anyone else" indicating that the man was her introduction to cheating and taught her how to keep the affair a secret.
I actually had a different interpretation of the song. I thought it was about a secret relationship that needed to be a secret because the woman (Taylor) is famous and doesn't want media to get all up in her partner's business. Didn't know it meant the guy was cheating.
I thought it's pretty simple. If the girl knew the man had a girlfriend, she's fucked up. If she didn't, their actions are still fucked up but she should be given more grace because she was not a willing participant of cheating. I don't understand the idea of sympathizing with a woman who willingly and knowingly went out of her way to cheat with a man. The guy is in the wrong 100% if he cheats, but so is the other woman if she knew of the relationship.
To me it’s that simple tbh- I don’t get the “she’s not wrong at ALL bc she’s not in the relationship”. Getting w someone taken says nothing positive about your character lol
THIS! I have no idea why people can’t hold willing participants accountable for destroying a relationship. Yes the cheater is always at fault but if the other person knew and still went along with it, then they are just as guilty. I crush on guys in relationships all the time, but will I go out of my way to have a secret relationship with them? No, that’s not fair to their partner.
@@Pink_pr1ncessI think the big issue comes from when people put all the shade on the other person, while letting the cheater off lightly. I know way too many people who are happy to attack the other person but then stay with the cheater.
@@Samzillah yeah I agree with you on that. Me personally, unless the side chick was my friend or someone I was semi close to, then I wouldn’t put all my anger on her. I would just leave the cheater and let the side chick deal with my leftovers.
i think “break up with your girlfriend, i’m bored” is about ariana intervening on relationships, not because she actually likes the guy, but because she craves validation (hence she almost kisses the lookalike at the end) from the taken guy. basically a struggle with self-love because of self-sabotage and superficiality. i think the lookalike symbolizes her and maybe her public persona, hinting that it’s superficial.
Here's my messed up but relevant story. I met this guy when I was 18 who was my first real anything and he was 6 years older with far more experience in everything. I fell hard before discovering he had a woman that he'd been with for 5 years and even lived with. Because I was young and due to make so many mistakes, I ended being his "other" for about 6 years. Yeah, I realize now MANY years later that I was a schmuck. The happy(ish) ending is that I FINALLY left and met my incredible and monogamous husband a year later. We spent 12 happy years together before he died suddenly of a GI bleed. He gave me our beautiful son and we're building our lives back - it's been 4 years now since we lost him. My point of adding that part is that having that relationship showed me what good really is. I'm 41 and I don't know what the future holds but I damn sure never want to share a man again!
Why is it that these older men always decide that a "young thing" is a good thing to rope along? When I was 18 I met a 30y old, and for the first 6 months I lived with him at his house (until covid happened and I moved to my family) and for another 1.5 years we had a thing here and there while I was sorting out life (because I was barely an adult, duh). After 2 years he admitted that somewhere along the way he had gotten a new girlfriend and I stopped seeing him because that was disgusting. A year later and I get an instragram DM from a woman asking if I knew this man. Turns out this was his fiancé of around 6 years and they had never split, even when I met him. She had gotten a whiff through his friends that I used to stay at his house (they lived separately in their own homes. AND HIS FRIENDS WERE IN ON IT THE WHOLE TIME??? I BECAME FRIENDS WITH THESE PEOPLE TOO) and wanted to know who I was to him. I spent the rest of the evening calling her explaining how this entire time he was cheating on her (HE EVEN DITCHED HER BIRTHDAY TO VISIT ME AT ONE POINT). Disgusting all around and I will never again allow an older man to disrespect me or anyone I know like that because of age
i comented in another video and im going to say this here too. As adult womans that we are, we need to be better the this. if you know he is married, if you know he have a kid, dont go after him. "but the man wanted to cheat" okay, but if you know he is married why would you continue? We need to have more respect for other womans and familys, but mostly for ourselves
ty for saying this, I find it so bizarre that being 'the other woman' is so normalized like its not terrible (specifically when the woman is fully aware of the relationship). Why do people act like 'love' should allow them to be a homewrecker whilst simultaneously getting sympathy? Very weird.
i’d love to hear your thoughts about “sex sells” in music. tierra whack is one of the most talented and unique rappers of this generation, getting collabs and shoutouts from beyoncé but nowhere near the money success and fame she deserves. i love ice spice and her come up but her thickness and recognisable red hair played a big role. bia has been in the game for a lot longer, she has the same flow and cadence of ice spice but no bbl. ppl sleeping on her last album
BIA is CRIMINALLY underrated. Not ONLY can she do EVERYTHING Ice Spice can do, she can actually rap to different beats and styles and isn't even constricted to the just the rap genre as she has collabed with Snakeships, an EDM artist.
@@naomi.cannibal it’s a sad thought but most of the popular artists are popping because ppl wanna fuck them and or dress like them. don’t get me wrong i’m a sucker for a good marketing ploy and branding but i l always find myself rooting for the talented underdog
I agree I’m here for women being sexually liberated and I won’t give black female rappers the same heat as others do but I do agree that there needs to be a balance in gaining out different female rappers out I think that it is there I personally love both mainstream and underground rap girls from city girls to Tierra wack to noname to MIA to Doja cat to Megan thee stallion to junglepu$$y to Bree runway to ice spice I love the diversity that female rap have become but I do agree the lack of diversity is shown in its crossover recognition, I also think it’s bad on the mainstream female rappers when they do try to be diverse they don’t get praise for, Megan thee stallion is a great example folks still use the narrative that she’s too receptive and lack diversity/versatility but her last album traumatize proved that wrong tackling more personal topics and even political commentary while also experimenting with different sounds but no one paid attention to it. I love to see Naomi tackle this subject more there’s much nuances to it
Ariana actually has another song where she sings about being the other woman in a song called Just a Little Bit of Your Heart. It has a much different tone than breakup with ur girlfriend and it’s actually a bit sadder with some of the lyrics being “I know I’m not your only but at least I’m one”
I've always interpreted the song as the narrator wanting a committed monogamous relationship with someone who just wants to sleep around (the song was written by Harry Styles btw)
One last Time by Ariana Grande as well " promise, after that, I'll let you go Baby I don't care if you got her in your heart I really care is you wake up in my arms"
her yet unreleased song “fantasize” also mentions homewrecking behavior too with the lyrics “a few months later, you’re still together, and you just can’t tell me why, so boy stop pretending, cuz i won’t keep waiting”
@@AriannaGithat's more like a song from perspective of a woman who was cheated on imo Like her partner fell in love with other woman and now she just want to "take home" and sleep with that one who once was hers
There is also a song by Kelsea Ballerini and Halsey that I recommend you listen to, literally called "The other girl", which depicts a conversation between the two women wondering who is better at being the other
Also hate when people be like “oh she don’t owe the wife anything” I mean technically no but you don’t have to know a person to not want to hurt them deeply and it don’t take much to be a good person and not want to be in that position. I feel like todays culture of full sexual liberation sometimes goes too far with what people should be comfortable doing and this is one of them. I also think there’s a little misogyny working with the whole Ariana thing, yes I don’t agree with her ways but male rappers and singers overall write songs about cheating and actually cheat on their partners all the time with little consequences. Ariana being thrown to the lions but would y’all be this mad if it was Drake saying he’s slept with married women? They brag about that sort of thing in songs all the time and no one bats an eye. To hear of a woman with “loose morals” makes people angrier and I find it weird.
Right and like… don’t you owe it to yourself to not engage in a relationship with a taken person, and potentially enter a relationship with a person you know has it in them to be dishonest? Like that argument never makes sense to me
Everybody's talking about Break up with your girlfriend, but what about One last time????? «Baby, I don't care if you got her in your heart All I really care is you wake up in my arms» That shit was haunting me for years This 2 songs basically have the same vibe, OLT just sounds more epic
I SWEAR I didn’t know what that song was about, bc I never looked up the lyrics and didn’t completely know what she was saying 😭 I thought she was saying “hurt in your heart”lmaoo
@@naomi.cannibal I'm not native speaker, i READ this shit to understand what they singing about))))))))))) but yeah, girl doesn't give a damn about pronunciation
It definitely has the same vibe! Maybe people are more interested in Break up with your girlfriend because she was one of the writers on it so it's more personal, whereas she didn't write OLT
@@naomi.cannibalI always found the song funny, because she cheated on the person, which is why they broke up, but she is now asking them to cheat on their current partner so that she can feel better. It's hilarious, because tue mv made it seem like she was asking for one last time with her partner before the world ended.
Since you've mentioned Lana's cover of the other woman, you probably also know that on Ultraviolence she has Sad Girl, which forms an interesting dichotomy - Sad Girl is sung from the perspective of the other woman, while the other woman is from the perspective of the wife.
Even if you don't listen to Country, "Never Wanted to be That Girl" by Ashley McBride and Carly Pearce is a GORGEOUS example of this. It is a song about an affair from both the position of the wife and the other woman. Stunning song.
There’s also “Girl at Home” by Taylor Swift in which the speaker denies a man chasing her because she knows he has a girlfriend and the speaker has been in that same situation the “girl at home” is in now.
So glad when i was in jr high, mariah carey came out. I have never been disappointed stanning her .... she put out alot of wholesome music for her young fans back in the 90s.
A song that comes to mind for me is Company by Tinashe, lyrics like “I don’t need the loving.” And “Nothing like a girlfriend, I’m not like someone I’m supposed to be. I just want some company, company”
One of my fav Halsey songs "is there somewhere" she sings is there somewhere you can meet me? And said it was what she would text that men. Then there's a part she sings "you're writing lines about me, romantic poetry, your girl's got red in checks, cause we're something she can't see, and i try to refrain but your stuck in my brain, and all i do is cry and complain, because second is not the same"
I’m glad I watched this video - I generally feel an aversion to cheating songs because I had a cheating parent and I usually dip a little in my esteem for artists who come out with songs like that (the exception being Taylor Swift because August was clearly a storytelling choice to connect to Betty and Cardigan, but even so I usually skip August and Illicit Affairs). But your points about how songwriters are exploring things outside of their lives definitely got me thinking and I’ll probably be mulling over this video for a while.
Such a fun video idea. This is a whole genre. I like songs that speak to different specific situations not just the same love and heartbreak songs. Sza’a Weekend and SWVs “You’re the One” are two of my favorite songs ever and I have never been and never would be a willing knowing other woman. Artists will have an other woman and heartbreak songs about getting cheated on back to back. Music and other art doesn’t only have to be written from or speak to actual experiences. It can be a method to living out antisocial impulses and realities you’d never (hopefully) never do in real life. Another one is Destiny Child’s “With Me” which I think people have forgotten about. It’s when they still has the original members and Beyoncé was a mermaid in the video. And Beyoncé and Shakira “Beautiful Liar” sort of.
There's also Taylor Swift's High Fidelity, from the perspective of a woman who cheated on a man, adressed to that man. Getaway Car is also about cheating. She writes about cheating quite a few times but the songs are always good
Also Gorgeous where she has a huge crush on someone else while she has a boyfriend. I think all of her cheating songs were about finding Joe while with a bad boyfriend like the lines “do you really wanna know where I was April 29th, [something something] he brought me back to life”
@@ellabiddy4741 also she's a very good story teller. i think she has an ability to turn her own experience into songs but also to create something fictional like the folklore love triangle, no body no crime, timeless from the recent speak now re-recording etc
I think my favorite "other woman" song has always been the veronicas 'everything I'm not' because it hits the hypocrisy of the situation perfectly and, it's mostly about the partner wanting the woman to be their narrow point of view, on a pedestal vision of the woman. It's not quite about losing to another woman but losing out to a skewed version of themselves a partner decided was them. It isn't really about cheating or leaving someone for another woman but it's about not being able to BE the perfect vision of what their partner wants them to be; albeit a situation I've been in too many times. (But most of their album 'the secret life of...' has tons of great other woman songs) But my second favorite is the somberness of the Marías 'loverboy' , the heart drop of knowing your partner is cheating and lying about it.
I can indirectly relate to this especially the fact that relationships and the other woman is not a black and white situation, its many layers of complexity. My bestfriend and I had been friends for years, since childhood. It was always a running joke that we might end up falling for each other because it was boy and girl friendship. I confess I did have a crush on him for years but I never acted upon it because it was better to have him as a friend and I knew how he was. When he got into a relationship I was excited to have another person to be friends with, but she didn't see it that way. She saw that I was competition to her and that I was too close to him. After picking up on the vibe I distanced myself from them to give them space but after they broke up he told me that her friends kept telling her he was cheating on her with me, despite us barely talking. It ironically led to him confessing that he had feelings for me. So an unintentional emotional affair. During that whole debacle I myself didn't have feelings for him as I moved on to other focus and interest. Things may not always seem as how you see. I felt guilty despite not doing anything and I was villainized. And before anyone takes this as a an example of demonizing boy/girl friendships, we both are still friends platonically, he moved on and so have I.
It wasn't platonic. Wtf. You said you each had feelings for each other 🤡 She was right to be suspicious and I'm glad she got away from you "besties" because he was absolutely emotionally cheating with you, and you with him. Gross. Do you hear yourself? Delusional.
Call Your Girlfriend by Robyn is probably one of the best other woman songs ever and probably one of the saddest too (if you look at if from the perspective of the girlfriend)
Just started this video and it has brought a number of songs to mind - Woman to Woman - Betty Wright, Booty - Erykah Badu, Gettin in the Way - Jill Scott, Sweet Thing - Chaka Khan, Saving All My Love for You - Whitney Houston, My Little Secret - Xscape…
Xscape’s My Little Secret is probably one of the most foul songs about being the other woman 😭 talking about “I like being in the same room with you and your girlfriend. The fact that she don’t know, it really turns me on” LIKE JUST NASTY
A song about cheating from the man's perspective would be Run To You by Bryan Adams. The song revolves around a guy cheating on his girlfriend or wife who's described in the song as "She's got a heart of gold,she'd never let me down." The song is about how the man is so willing to cheat on his girl that he's willing to run to his mistress to be be with her. My mom used to like this song until she really listened to the lyrics. This song was from the 1980s by the way. If you wonder who Bryan Adams is, he's the guy who sang most of the songs from the movie Spirit.
I always thought “illicit affairs” is from the other woman’s perspective because of these lyrics: Leave the perfume on the shelf That you picked out just for him So you leave no trace behind Like you don't even exist However I’m just realizing that it could very well be from the wife’s perspective, imagining the things the other woman tried in order to keep the affair secret.
I always thought of the narrator as a wife cheating on her partner. Someone who thought they had the life they wanted and found themselves in a situation where they don’t recognize themselves but can’t stop going back.
I always thought it was about an older, married man having an affair with a young woman, most likely someone he works with or who works under him. Hence the "Don't call me kid" line (which btw totally pops off live at tour)
Illicit Affairs is based on Conversations With Friends is it not? If it is, it's definitely a younger woman, married older man scenario. And the bridge is younger woman/older man coded.
SWV "You're the one"; English is not my first language so when i could speak it and understand fluently, my suprise that it was a side chick talking on such a fun song. "My Little Secret" by Xscape's another one that was just.... As always, great video
That song automatically came to my mind when I watched this video. The lyrics "what your girl don't know won't hurt her, anything to make this love go further" is openly admitting it and not being subtle 😅😬
if you end up making a part two to this video , i really think you should consider adding Lana Del Rey to the mix , she has many songs like “ride” and others that talk about being the other woman and always being the second choice. she would fit in perfectly with this topic
Girl at Home is another Tayler Swift "other woman" song. It's one of my favorites by her and it's about a girl who knows the guy in the bar has a girl at home and he should go back to her. It even has a line that says the singer was once the girl at home.
The only time I'll ever have sympathy for a "cheater" is if one partner genuinely didn't know the other was in a committed relationship. I don't care what "complicated" feelings are involved, if someone pursues or plays around (flirting but not going all the way) with someone they know is in a relationship they deserve the hate they get along with the unfaithful partner.
I agree. I mean, I don’t think either should be, like, demonized or anything, but they both definitely should be held accountable for what they did because they’re both at fault. And I also agree that complicated feelings are no excuse or justification for cheating. Just because something is nuanced it doesn’t mean it isn’t wrong.
Those messages can often be fake. A lot of artists fake their image for money or recognition, and will exaggerate in their lyrics or persona as a result.
What I do appreciate about Taylor’s “Other Woman” point of view within folklore is that it never says that cheating or being the side piece is morally good but rather that cheaters can hurt just about anyone because of their bad actions. For me personally, I never thought what James and August did was okay but I do appreciate that Taylor does paint out James as the one who is mostly at fault instead of the other woman. Not that what August did was okay, but that James’ actions were much worse and should be held accountable.
James and August both are accountable imo, if august knew Betty was James's gf. If she knew that, then "August" is just romantification of cheating even tho it is musically the best song in the album along with cardigan.
they both should take the blame because august KNEW james had a gf and went along with it. it'll be another different story if august had no clue she was his sidepiece.
@avantikaroy5146 I always imagined August wasn't aware of James and Betty's relationship (I also imagined her as an older, troubled "cool girl" type, not that much older but like a year or two) when her and James first got together. And that she didn't really realize it until well into their little summer fling, but by then she was already in love with James. Still doesn't make it right for her to stay after finding out, but I thought it was supposed to make August more sympathetic because she was also tricked by James into thinking he was single. But there's also a million different interpretations of these songs, so who knows
@@avantikaroy5146I agree. I just believe that what James did was worse but I never said that what August did was good either. They both participated in a bad thing that hurt Betty.
my guilty pleasure motif in songs is "i'm convincing myself that i'll always be better than your current gf". songs in my playlist include "the best you had" by nina nesbitt, "lookalike" by conan gray, "deja vu" by olivia rodrigo, and "bitter" by FLETCHER
What a great video concept! I only realized that I've been listening to "the other woman" songs my entire life without really realizing it (English isn't my first language and while growing up I didn't know what the lyrics meant anyway). If I can bop to a song with this type of narrative while I would never want to find myself in that situation IRL, I think it's entirely possible for an artist to explore scenarios without necessarily having to experience them 100%. My best friend is an artist aswell and his lyrics are an exaggeration of his life and a lot of it never happened. I love that musicians can also invent stories and instead of having books, we have music. It would be amazing to compare "the other man" to this video. Maybe I'm not aware of a lot of those songs (Cry Me a River comes to mind), but it would be interesting to see the differences in sense of how it is perceived or how intense the pain is. Or maybe we can just collect some of these songs, please if you know of more, I'd love to know!
I think Whitney’s saving all my love for you is a good example of this too. At the end of the song and video she doesn’t even get the man, she just goes off in the distance and moves on despite still wanting him and him making the choice to stay with his wife and I find that very interesting especially for a 80s song.
i never noticed how many songs there are from this perspective since this video lol. now thinking about it, more have popped up in my head such as Va Va Voom by Nicki Minaj, deja vu by Olivia Rodrigo, Say my Name by Destiny’s Child and sooo many more come to mind
I thought of Va va voom too! "But I know you got a wife at home, But I need just one night alone" and Doja Cat Need to to Know "I dont care what your wife is saying" Avril Lavinge too: Hey hey you you , I dont like your grilfriend. I think you need a new one, I wanna be your girlfriend.
@@dashiajames1882 “A few stolen moments is all that we share..you’ve got your family and they need you there..” “my friends try to tell me find a man of my own .. but each time I try I just break down and cry..” All you need to know..
I've never been cheated on but something about cheaters and "the other woman" just irks me and pisses me off badly, man i dont evem think i can enjoy their music it sucks :(
@@OoOMonkeyCoFreakOoO its just disgusting how normalized it is, one of my male classmates talks about how he texts three girls while dating two and my female friends dont really find it weird or unusual, no one does...
It’s bc betrayal and trauma is something universal that we can all understand. No matter how you spin it, cheating is abusive and hurtful and I think we tend to resonate with the hurt, even if we haven’t experienced it. Even before I got cheated on for the first time, I hated cheating because loyalty’s always been a value of mine
@@NicoleReign i read once somewhere that cheating should be considered a sort mental abuse. Because it traumatizes the victim and leaves them paranoid for years on end. And I believe its true, because my male best friend got cheated on by the person he considered the love of his life, cheated with his own friend even, he forgave his partner and tried to make things go back to normal but the damage and trauma had already been done, he became paranoid, controlling and almost went crazy. Trying to save that relationship was useless
Honorable Mentions: Destiny's Child - She Can't Love You (I looove this song, I feel like it's "Wonder What She Thinks Of Me" big sister lol) Changing Faces - The Other Woman Kelly Price / Shirley Murdock - As We Lay Xscape - My Little Secret
@@CrimsonEclipse I still want ther write a book that weaves in her experiences. Not a tell all or biography. I think her imagination and storytelling could work so well. A lot of celebrities are writing fictional novels based on things they know. I would love to see it with Taylor
I've heard some people say that the song Unthinkable by Alicia Keys(released in 2009) could also allude to her wanting to be the other woman. They say that her lyrics means she is willing to have an affair with the man who is taken as long as he's ready to be with her. People have also compared the lyrics to the allegations that she got with Swizz Beatz while he was with his ex( in 2011). What do you think about it ?
@PynkVelVet That kind of makes sense too. I could see how you came up with the whole virginity theory 😂 "if you ask me I'm ready". Now that I think about the lyrics, I totally get it
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Awesome video! Very interesting subject, what I like about these songs as they paint very vivid pictures through their lyrics and enables the music videos to be very cinematic. I have a couple of relevant songs I love 'Same Script, Different Cast' by Whitney Houston (Duet With Deborah Cox), and by Perfume by Britney Spears. xo
i literally can't listen to songs about cheating, i don't know why given that i've never been in a relationship yet, i remember listening to Cardigan, August and Betty and not paying attention to the lyrics, but when i did... i had to delete them all from my playlist, i get such a physical reaction when it comes to infidelity that i have to avoid it
somebody’s already mentioned it but stay by sugar land is about the perspective of the other woman (I had a history teacher obsessed with this song and would play it all the timeand I was like are okay?)it’s a response to Reba Mcentires song “whoever’s in New England” which talks about infidelity from the cheated on perspective
I've just started this video so idk if this so gets mentioned but I really love and appreciate 'The Other Girl' by Halsey and Kelsea Ballerini. There's no pitting women against each other, just two sad girls trying to figure out who was cheated on with who and being sad about it together
I really enjoy songs about cheating (my favorites being Don't Think I'm not by Kandi and Creep by TLC) because I grew up hearing my parents argue about cheating.
I just realized that even I have a song about being "the other woman" lol! It's called "Me Llamas" and its a reggaeton song where a girl is being suspicious of her boyfriend cheating and Im just like "Que tu crees que pasa cuando el me llama" which is spanish for "what do you think happens when he calls me?" There's a lot of nuances that come from being "the other woman" or "the other person" that you can pull inspiration from it from different persectives.
On the rap side of things there's a a few songs you probably haven't heard of because they are old and from underground artist Gangsta Boo & Khia! Gangsta Boo has 2 songs one of which is called "I'll Be The Other Woman" from her debut album Enquiring Minds circa 1998 and the other is "Your Girls Man" where she raps about what to do in the situation your friends number in your mans pants from I think 2001 off her album "Both Worlds" and as for Khia she has a long called "We Were Meant To Be" off her debut album from 2002 "Thug Misses" where she talks about craving a man who is already with another woman and how hard it is for the man and Khia to be in love despite him belonging to someone else! I know Khia doesn't have a good reputation these days but she makes some bops tbh! Also may Gangsta Boo RIP she passed away earlier this year but she will forever be a legend for female rap
My favorite song about being the other woman is probably Does He Love You? by Rilo Kiley, the "twist" at the end just kills me every time lol. Adia by Sarah McLachlan is another one in a similar vein. I think the topic just hits harder in these bc there's multiple levels of betrayal going on; like it's not just trust between partners being broken but trust between friends as well. For cheating songs in general I really love TLC's Creep, it's simultaneously sexy and heartbreaking. The phrase "hurt people, hurt people" comes to mind
I haven’t seen anyone mention it but Jordin Sparks has a song called “Tell Him That I Love Him” where the wife is calling the side chick and says basically I know what he’s doing. Tell him I love him and I’ll see him in the morning. She tells the mistress to tell the husband that she’s pregnant and for the husband not to be late for church in the morning. I love it because she makes it clear that she’s not blaming the other woman but that she’s not letting her man go.
i know its funnn and its "just music" but tbh i dont think i will b saying these lyrics out loud i dont want to subconsciously manifest this energy into my life, idkkkk just made me think about it for some reason
My first time being early. Yay! You always do interesting and intricate work. I always leave your videos with new information and a different perspective
Another “other woman” song that I adore but hurts me deeply is Talking Behind Your Back by Lee Ann Womack. It’s from the perspective of-presumably-the girlfriend or wife who’s telling her man’s ex that he’s not over her. Crushes me to the core but so beautifully sung “But he can’t get over What he had with you He tears me up That’s where he’s at You got him good I hate you bad” Kills me
So many popular songs about being the other woman. Can’t think of any about being the other man lol. I don’t count men rapping about “f-ing your girl” - where the tone is more retaliatory
This is an interesting point- can’t think of any of the top of my head either! Maybe “you should let me love you” but the girl Mario is singing about in that song could be single
I try to remember that just because a singer writes something and/or sings it doesn’t mean they stand by it, but oh em gee I seriously get the ick when I see people make and happily sing songs about cheating. And they seem proud of it too. Example being My Little Secret by Xscape. Just gross. Edit: I guess me absolutely despising cheaters and homewreckers made me like this lol.
If your a women that believes in the sanctity of marriage you may make songs like Jolene or perfect (by Selena Gomez) but not songs like breakup with your girlfriend or weekend.
“Other Woman” Playlist:
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You should add whatchamacallit by ella mai its a bop 😂
One last time by Ariana grande
Erykah bash’s next lifetime counts I think especially the intro
Actually nvm it’s kinda more of the other man than the other woman
Break up with your girlfriend def feels autobiographical because Ariana has such a history of it, but I don't think we should've known. I def think people can write songs from a different perspective. Lana has dealer despite having a great relationship with her father, Ethel Cain has a full album built around events happening to a character she created. Song writing doesn't always have to be from your own perspective.
I agree, her hopping from relationship to relationship and singing about taking someone’s boyfriend and one last time just felt too close to the mark.
They say art imitates real life don’t they.
The true meaning behind BUWYGIB is not about what the majority thinks it's about. It's actually about Ariana telling the man to break up with his girlfriend so that she can be with HER. The girlfriend in question being Ariana herself, hence why they both look identical in the music video. It's just a silly little self love anthem as stated by Ariana herself, nothing more nothing less.
@@bratzscene3131 you honest to God want me to believe that after all of the cheating? And did you not watch the video? She literally says this in it. You're just here to respond to Ariana comments
@@bratzscene3131 please she only kissed herself in the mv for shock value you fans are so gullible
I think "Beautiful Liar" by Beyoncé and Shakira is one of the best examples of a song that addresses cheating but doesn't have the women tear each other down. Both women realize they are the "other" woman and come together to confront the man who is cheating on both of them, and that's a refreshing perspective (even if it came out 13 years ago)
I really love your videos, you always present information in a really engaging way :)
I think Beautiful Liar is the healthier, more mature version of The Boy is Mine because it's about two woman, instead of fighting over a man, is saying, "This man ain't shit and we shouldn't waste our time fighting over a man who is playing the two of us."
@@dontworry1330yah though I love the boy is mine song lol
@@lessismore8533 Me too. Even though I don't support the messaging, the song is still a bop and will remain on my playlist 😆
Taylor Swift also has a song on Red called Girl at Home where she’s telling the man to not get comfortable with her and rejecting his advances because he has a “girl at home and everybody knows it”
Yeah i love that song
i’m glad you put chloe x halle cus they really have an album or two worth of songs that are just about being the side piece. 😭
I wonder what she thinks of me slaps tho and I’m so ashamed of liking it 😭
can you say which albums? I wanna listen ty xx
Body do- Is a side chic hot girl summer anthem. But to be fair Chloe does say she’s tired of fighting and her partner games. At the time she craves affection. Even though she caves into delusions of comparison and compromise as she tries to validate her actions .
In short a classic romance bop
Lmao. That part 😅
@@hi.goodbye2167 alr tyy
Ariana Grande also has a song (although written by Harry Styles) called ‘Just a little bit of your heart’ where she acknowledges that she is sharing the man with another woman but recognizes that a ‘i know i’m not your only but at least i’m one, i heard a little love is better than none’ kind of in the same sentiment as SZA in Weekend.
Yeah but that's not necessarily about cheating it could be just the other person not looking for commitment and sleeping around
@@DearAphrodite that's a good interpretation too ☺️
she said she doesn’t even agree with what the song is saying either lol so it doesn’t rlly matter
@@leavemealone3304hi, can you link me where she said that, if you remember? thankss
@@yutisimaprobably because she didn’t write it. You can search the old interviews where they ask her about the song
Avril Lavigne's "Girlfriend" comes to mind too. 😂
Fr I was kicking myself for not including this one when someone mentioned it yesterday 😭
Avril said the song was satire and never really serious. She wrote most of the album drunk and many songs were for shits and gigs.
@@f.airy.x did she now
@@cheeryberrie yeah she talked abt it a lot. Most of the song was just poking fun but also aiming to be a song of the summer hit bc she knew the public would love it cause it was catchy. A lot of the lines were also satire of the medias depiction of her cause prior misogynyst would say she was a princess trying to be edgy in her “Sk8ter Boi” and “Under My Skin” era. So she kinda took it and rebranded it to make it empowering and something she would use in her music going forward aka “I am the mother fucking Princess.” The song also marked her beginning into showing her feminine side which started in her Under My Skin era when she started wearing skirts. This era was supposed to be like “I can be edgy and girly” and showing her fun and pop side with the punk aspects still in tact. I love this album it’s what got me into her music and made me a die hard fan.
@@f.airy.xglad to know Avril is not a douche
"Illicit affairs" is definitely from the perspective of the other woman and not from the perspective of someone that is cheating. She sings about leaving the perfume on the shelf that she picked out just for him so that she doesn't leave a trace behind, and in the bridge she sings "you taught me a secret language you know I can't speak with anyone else" indicating that the man was her introduction to cheating and taught her how to keep the affair a secret.
I actually had a different interpretation of the song. I thought it was about a secret relationship that needed to be a secret because the woman (Taylor) is famous and doesn't want media to get all up in her partner's business. Didn't know it meant the guy was cheating.
I thought it's pretty simple. If the girl knew the man had a girlfriend, she's fucked up. If she didn't, their actions are still fucked up but she should be given more grace because she was not a willing participant of cheating. I don't understand the idea of sympathizing with a woman who willingly and knowingly went out of her way to cheat with a man.
The guy is in the wrong 100% if he cheats, but so is the other woman if she knew of the relationship.
To me it’s that simple tbh- I don’t get the “she’s not wrong at ALL bc she’s not in the relationship”. Getting w someone taken says nothing positive about your character lol
THIS! I have no idea why people can’t hold willing participants accountable for destroying a relationship. Yes the cheater is always at fault but if the other person knew and still went along with it, then they are just as guilty. I crush on guys in relationships all the time, but will I go out of my way to have a secret relationship with them? No, that’s not fair to their partner.
@@Pink_pr1ncessI think the big issue comes from when people put all the shade on the other person, while letting the cheater off lightly.
I know way too many people who are happy to attack the other person but then stay with the cheater.
@@Samzillah yeah I agree with you on that. Me personally, unless the side chick was my friend or someone I was semi close to, then I wouldn’t put all my anger on her. I would just leave the cheater and let the side chick deal with my leftovers.
Yeah, it's ridiculous when people say the other woman destroyed the relationship of a man, but she's not a good person for it either lol
i think “break up with your girlfriend, i’m bored” is about ariana intervening on relationships, not because she actually likes the guy, but because she craves validation (hence she almost kisses the lookalike at the end) from the taken guy. basically a struggle with self-love because of self-sabotage and superficiality. i think the lookalike symbolizes her and maybe her public persona, hinting that it’s superficial.
Here's my messed up but relevant story. I met this guy when I was 18 who was my first real anything and he was 6 years older with far more experience in everything. I fell hard before discovering he had a woman that he'd been with for 5 years and even lived with. Because I was young and due to make so many mistakes, I ended being his "other" for about 6 years. Yeah, I realize now MANY years later that I was a schmuck. The happy(ish) ending is that I FINALLY left and met my incredible and monogamous husband a year later. We spent 12 happy years together before he died suddenly of a GI bleed. He gave me our beautiful son and we're building our lives back - it's been 4 years now since we lost him. My point of adding that part is that having that relationship showed me what good really is. I'm 41 and I don't know what the future holds but I damn sure never want to share a man again!
I’m glad you had good years with your husband ♥️
Why is it that these older men always decide that a "young thing" is a good thing to rope along? When I was 18 I met a 30y old, and for the first 6 months I lived with him at his house (until covid happened and I moved to my family) and for another 1.5 years we had a thing here and there while I was sorting out life (because I was barely an adult, duh). After 2 years he admitted that somewhere along the way he had gotten a new girlfriend and I stopped seeing him because that was disgusting. A year later and I get an instragram DM from a woman asking if I knew this man. Turns out this was his fiancé of around 6 years and they had never split, even when I met him. She had gotten a whiff through his friends that I used to stay at his house (they lived separately in their own homes. AND HIS FRIENDS WERE IN ON IT THE WHOLE TIME??? I BECAME FRIENDS WITH THESE PEOPLE TOO) and wanted to know who I was to him. I spent the rest of the evening calling her explaining how this entire time he was cheating on her (HE EVEN DITCHED HER BIRTHDAY TO VISIT ME AT ONE POINT). Disgusting all around and I will never again allow an older man to disrespect me or anyone I know like that because of age
i comented in another video and im going to say this here too. As adult womans that we are, we need to be better the this. if you know he is married, if you know he have a kid, dont go after him. "but the man wanted to cheat" okay, but if you know he is married why would you continue? We need to have more respect for other womans and familys, but mostly for ourselves
ty for saying this, I find it so bizarre that being 'the other woman' is so normalized like its not terrible (specifically when the woman is fully aware of the relationship). Why do people act like 'love' should allow them to be a homewrecker whilst simultaneously getting sympathy? Very weird.
They still don’t care, those women in the media will still suporting Sidechicks
i’d love to hear your thoughts about “sex sells” in music. tierra whack is one of the most talented and unique rappers of this generation, getting collabs and shoutouts from beyoncé but nowhere near the money success and fame she deserves. i love ice spice and her come up but her thickness and recognisable red hair played a big role. bia has been in the game for a lot longer, she has the same flow and cadence of ice spice but no bbl. ppl sleeping on her last album
BIA is CRIMINALLY underrated. Not ONLY can she do EVERYTHING Ice Spice can do, she can actually rap to different beats and styles and isn't even constricted to the just the rap genre as she has collabed with Snakeships, an EDM artist.
That would be a great video concept. I’ve touched on it before but never fully broke down my thoughts
@@naomi.cannibal it’s a sad thought but most of the popular artists are popping because ppl wanna fuck them and or dress like them. don’t get me wrong i’m a sucker for a good marketing ploy and branding but i l always find myself rooting for the talented underdog
I agree I’m here for women being sexually liberated and I won’t give black female rappers the same heat as others do but I do agree that there needs to be a balance in gaining out different female rappers out I think that it is there I personally love both mainstream and underground rap girls from city girls to Tierra wack to noname to MIA to Doja cat to Megan thee stallion to junglepu$$y to Bree runway to ice spice I love the diversity that female rap have become but I do agree the lack of diversity is shown in its crossover recognition, I also think it’s bad on the mainstream female rappers when they do try to be diverse they don’t get praise for, Megan thee stallion is a great example folks still use the narrative that she’s too receptive and lack diversity/versatility but her last album traumatize proved that wrong tackling more personal topics and even political commentary while also experimenting with different sounds but no one paid attention to it. I love to see Naomi tackle this subject more there’s much nuances to it
@@Kevin-rg3yc it’s just kinda lucky for ppl like nicki and doja who are innately sexual ppl but also super talented
THANK YOU, Naomi, for your research and perspective! And NO, artists are NOT necessarily the content of their songs!
Thank you! And I agree they’re often just fiction
Unless it's Ariana Grande.....or Alicia Keys (ALLEGEDLY) LOL!!! Staying true to some lyrics. 😂
Not the “NO” lol you yelling at my girl Naomi 😂😭
Excluding Ariana Grande
@@theeangelkidd Ooops! Sorry, didn't mean to do that!
I love Jolene by Dolly Parton, 💯
I was a whole child begging her not to take my man 😭
@@naomi.canniballisten we swore we knew the pain😂😂😂😂😩💀
@@Guevara007I think Dolly and Miley are related in someway
@@Pink_pr1ncessdolly is Miley’s godmother
The guitar tracking that don't is so interesting, especially paired with her emotive voice.
Ariana actually has another song where she sings about being the other woman in a song called Just a Little Bit of Your Heart. It has a much different tone than breakup with ur girlfriend and it’s actually a bit sadder with some of the lyrics being “I know I’m not your only but at least I’m one”
I've always interpreted the song as the narrator wanting a committed monogamous relationship with someone who just wants to sleep around (the song was written by Harry Styles btw)
One last Time by Ariana Grande as well " promise, after that, I'll let you go
Baby I don't care if you got her in your heart
I really care is you wake up in my arms"
Just a little bit of your heart was actually written by Harry Styles and given to her
her yet unreleased song “fantasize” also mentions homewrecking behavior too with the lyrics “a few months later, you’re still together, and you just can’t tell me why, so boy stop pretending, cuz i won’t keep waiting”
@@AriannaGithat's more like a song from perspective of a woman who was cheated on imo
Like her partner fell in love with other woman and now she just want to "take home" and sleep with that one who once was hers
There is also a song by Kelsea Ballerini and Halsey that I recommend you listen to, literally called "The other girl", which depicts a conversation between the two women wondering who is better at being the other
I’m going to have to check it out! Thanks for the rec
That was my first thought too! Great song!
Wow! I was about to comment it too
@@RachelJayne92 yesss, I really love it too 😍👌🏻
How toxic, I can't believe these women have such a platform and influence for such shit.
Also hate when people be like “oh she don’t owe the wife anything” I mean technically no but you don’t have to know a person to not want to hurt them deeply and it don’t take much to be a good person and not want to be in that position. I feel like todays culture of full sexual liberation sometimes goes too far with what people should be comfortable doing and this is one of them. I also think there’s a little misogyny working with the whole Ariana thing, yes I don’t agree with her ways but male rappers and singers overall write songs about cheating and actually cheat on their partners all the time with little consequences. Ariana being thrown to the lions but would y’all be this mad if it was Drake saying he’s slept with married women? They brag about that sort of thing in songs all the time and no one bats an eye. To hear of a woman with “loose morals” makes people angrier and I find it weird.
Right and like… don’t you owe it to yourself to not engage in a relationship with a taken person, and potentially enter a relationship with a person you know has it in them to be dishonest? Like that argument never makes sense to me
@@naomi.cannibal yeah exactly. It’s usually something grown adults say to themselves as a cop out for self accountability and good judgment.
Aaliyah's song "I Can Be" shocked me when I first heard it. She legit says, "I can be the other woman in your life" "Or I could be on the side”
Yeah that would’ve been a good one for me to include for sure oop
"If only your girl knew"
Everybody's talking about Break up with your girlfriend, but what about One last time?????
«Baby, I don't care if you got her in your heart
All I really care is you wake up in my arms»
That shit was haunting me for years
This 2 songs basically have the same vibe, OLT just sounds more epic
I SWEAR I didn’t know what that song was about, bc I never looked up the lyrics and didn’t completely know what she was saying 😭 I thought she was saying “hurt in your heart”lmaoo
@@naomi.cannibal I'm not native speaker, i READ this shit to understand what they singing about)))))))))))
but yeah, girl doesn't give a damn about pronunciation
It definitely has the same vibe! Maybe people are more interested in Break up with your girlfriend because she was one of the writers on it so it's more personal, whereas she didn't write OLT
@@emmarose7044 or it's just more recent and hyped
@@naomi.cannibalI always found the song funny, because she cheated on the person, which is why they broke up, but she is now asking them to cheat on their current partner so that she can feel better.
It's hilarious, because tue mv made it seem like she was asking for one last time with her partner before the world ended.
Since you've mentioned Lana's cover of the other woman, you probably also know that on Ultraviolence she has Sad Girl, which forms an interesting dichotomy - Sad Girl is sung from the perspective of the other woman, while the other woman is from the perspective of the wife.
Watching this video I remembered "Homewrecker" by Marina and the Diamonds (now just "MARINA"), and all the songs of that archetype in Primadonna.
Yesss perfect example! The way there are so many
I scoured the comments looking for this specifically~
Saving all my love by Whitney Houston is a top tier sidechick anthem
She makes it sound like a pure love song.
YES 🙌🏽 my favorite
I was about to comment on this. It's such a great song
Even if you don't listen to Country, "Never Wanted to be That Girl" by Ashley McBride and Carly Pearce is a GORGEOUS example of this. It is a song about an affair from both the position of the wife and the other woman. Stunning song.
I’m going to listen to it! A lot of you guys have recommended some country today, I’m enjoying them so far!
On the country tip, Sunny Sweeney has amazing other woman songs!
yess!!
There’s also “Girl at Home” by Taylor Swift in which the speaker denies a man chasing her because she knows he has a girlfriend and the speaker has been in that same situation the “girl at home” is in now.
So glad when i was in jr high, mariah carey came out. I have never been disappointed stanning her .... she put out alot of wholesome music for her young fans back in the 90s.
My favourite part of the “Jolene” song by Dolly Parton, is “Diane” by Cam. It basically says “he didn’t tell me he was married, I’m sorry”
A song that comes to mind for me is Company by Tinashe, lyrics like
“I don’t need the loving.” And “Nothing like a girlfriend, I’m not like someone I’m supposed to be. I just want some company, company”
One of my fav Halsey songs "is there somewhere" she sings is there somewhere you can meet me? And said it was what she would text that men. Then there's a part she sings "you're writing lines about me, romantic poetry, your girl's got red in checks, cause we're something she can't see, and i try to refrain but your stuck in my brain, and all i do is cry and complain, because second is not the same"
I’m glad I watched this video - I generally feel an aversion to cheating songs because I had a cheating parent and I usually dip a little in my esteem for artists who come out with songs like that (the exception being Taylor Swift because August was clearly a storytelling choice to connect to Betty and Cardigan, but even so I usually skip August and Illicit Affairs). But your points about how songwriters are exploring things outside of their lives definitely got me thinking and I’ll probably be mulling over this video for a while.
Such a fun video idea. This is a whole genre. I like songs that speak to different specific situations not just the same love and heartbreak songs. Sza’a Weekend and SWVs “You’re the One” are two of my favorite songs ever and I have never been and never would be a willing knowing other woman. Artists will have an other woman and heartbreak songs about getting cheated on back to back. Music and other art doesn’t only have to be written from or speak to actual experiences. It can be a method to living out antisocial impulses and realities you’d never (hopefully) never do in real life. Another one is Destiny Child’s “With Me” which I think people have forgotten about. It’s when they still has the original members and Beyoncé was a mermaid in the video. And Beyoncé and Shakira “Beautiful Liar” sort of.
There's also Taylor Swift's High Fidelity, from the perspective of a woman who cheated on a man, adressed to that man. Getaway Car is also about cheating. She writes about cheating quite a few times but the songs are always good
Also Gorgeous where she has a huge crush on someone else while she has a boyfriend. I think all of her cheating songs were about finding Joe while with a bad boyfriend like the lines “do you really wanna know where I was April 29th, [something something] he brought me back to life”
@@ellabiddy4741 also she's a very good story teller. i think she has an ability to turn her own experience into songs but also to create something fictional like the folklore love triangle, no body no crime, timeless from the recent speak now re-recording etc
I think my favorite "other woman" song has always been the veronicas 'everything I'm not' because it hits the hypocrisy of the situation perfectly and, it's mostly about the partner wanting the woman to be their narrow point of view, on a pedestal vision of the woman. It's not quite about losing to another woman but losing out to a skewed version of themselves a partner decided was them. It isn't really about cheating or leaving someone for another woman but it's about not being able to BE the perfect vision of what their partner wants them to be; albeit a situation I've been in too many times. (But most of their album 'the secret life of...' has tons of great other woman songs)
But my second favorite is the somberness of the Marías 'loverboy' , the heart drop of knowing your partner is cheating and lying about it.
I can indirectly relate to this especially the fact that relationships and the other woman is not a black and white situation, its many layers of complexity.
My bestfriend and I had been friends for years, since childhood. It was always a running joke that we might end up falling for each other because it was boy and girl friendship. I confess I did have a crush on him for years but I never acted upon it because it was better to have him as a friend and I knew how he was. When he got into a relationship I was excited to have another person to be friends with, but she didn't see it that way. She saw that I was competition to her and that I was too close to him. After picking up on the vibe I distanced myself from them to give them space but after they broke up he told me that her friends kept telling her he was cheating on her with me, despite us barely talking.
It ironically led to him confessing that he had feelings for me. So an unintentional emotional affair.
During that whole debacle I myself didn't have feelings for him as I moved on to other focus and interest. Things may not always seem as how you see. I felt guilty despite not doing anything and I was villainized. And before anyone takes this as a an example of demonizing boy/girl friendships, we both are still friends platonically, he moved on and so have I.
I'm so sorry, it was so unfair for them to judge you and paint devil horns on your head just because you were his friend and happened to be female 😔
It wasn't platonic. Wtf. You said you each had feelings for each other 🤡 She was right to be suspicious and I'm glad she got away from you "besties" because he was absolutely emotionally cheating with you, and you with him. Gross.
Do you hear yourself? Delusional.
Oh hell nah man red flag
Call Your Girlfriend by Robyn is probably one of the best other woman songs ever and probably one of the saddest too (if you look at if from the perspective of the girlfriend)
Great example!! that song makes me sad lol
I always thought that Call Your Girlfriend was in the perspective of the other woman from Dancing On My Own
Just started this video and it has brought a number of songs to mind - Woman to Woman - Betty Wright, Booty - Erykah Badu, Gettin in the Way - Jill Scott, Sweet Thing - Chaka Khan, Saving All My Love for You - Whitney Houston, My Little Secret - Xscape…
Xscape’s My Little Secret is probably one of the most foul songs about being the other woman 😭 talking about “I like being in the same room with you and your girlfriend. The fact that she don’t know, it really turns me on” LIKE JUST NASTY
Lol
Yeah that's foul
And that’s exactly how women that like to be the other woman feel. They like feeling superior to the other girl cause they insecure.
“And she’ll never guess in a million years, that we got this thang going on”… yeah they’re sick. 😭😭😭
that is my SONG 😭 they were so out of pocket for that
A song about cheating from the man's perspective would be Run To You by Bryan Adams. The song revolves around a guy cheating on his girlfriend or wife who's described in the song as "She's got a heart of gold,she'd never let me down." The song is about how the man is so willing to cheat on his girl that he's willing to run to his mistress to be be with her.
My mom used to like this song until she really listened to the lyrics. This song was from the 1980s by the way.
If you wonder who Bryan Adams is, he's the guy who sang most of the songs from the movie Spirit.
I always thought “illicit affairs” is from the other woman’s perspective because of these lyrics:
Leave the perfume on the shelf
That you picked out just for him
So you leave no trace behind
Like you don't even exist
However I’m just realizing that it could very well be from the wife’s perspective, imagining the things the other woman tried in order to keep the affair secret.
I always thought of the narrator as a wife cheating on her partner. Someone who thought they had the life they wanted and found themselves in a situation where they don’t recognize themselves but can’t stop going back.
I always thought it was about an older, married man having an affair with a young woman, most likely someone he works with or who works under him. Hence the "Don't call me kid" line (which btw totally pops off live at tour)
Illicit Affairs is based on Conversations With Friends is it not? If it is, it's definitely a younger woman, married older man scenario. And the bridge is younger woman/older man coded.
SWV "You're the one"; English is not my first language so when i could speak it and understand fluently, my suprise that it was a side chick talking on such a fun song.
"My Little Secret" by Xscape's another one that was just....
As always, great video
That song automatically came to my mind when I watched this video. The lyrics "what your girl don't know won't hurt her, anything to make this love go further" is openly admitting it and not being subtle 😅😬
if you end up making a part two to this video , i really think you should consider adding Lana Del Rey to the mix , she has many songs like “ride” and others that talk about being the other woman and always being the second choice. she would fit in perfectly with this topic
Girl at Home is another Tayler Swift "other woman" song. It's one of my favorites by her and it's about a girl who knows the guy in the bar has a girl at home and he should go back to her. It even has a line that says the singer was once the girl at home.
Apparently that song is about Zac Efron! 🤯
I wonder if it's actually true, considering zac still talks very affectionately about taylor.
I would add Robyn's "Call your Girlfriend" to the list, such a good song!
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Yes I agree, this was Ace, especially with the Ariana scandal going on
The only time I'll ever have sympathy for a "cheater" is if one partner genuinely didn't know the other was in a committed relationship. I don't care what "complicated" feelings are involved, if someone pursues or plays around (flirting but not going all the way) with someone they know is in a relationship they deserve the hate they get along with the unfaithful partner.
Facts , no argument
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I agree. I mean, I don’t think either should be, like, demonized or anything, but they both definitely should be held accountable for what they did because they’re both at fault.
And I also agree that complicated feelings are no excuse or justification for cheating. Just because something is nuanced it doesn’t mean it isn’t wrong.
Idk why people think songs are just songs… everything has a meaning/message
Those messages can often be fake.
A lot of artists fake their image for money or recognition, and will exaggerate in their lyrics or persona as a result.
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What I do appreciate about Taylor’s “Other Woman” point of view within folklore is that it never says that cheating or being the side piece is morally good but rather that cheaters can hurt just about anyone because of their bad actions.
For me personally, I never thought what James and August did was okay but I do appreciate that Taylor does paint out James as the one who is mostly at fault instead of the other woman. Not that what August did was okay, but that James’ actions were much worse and should be held accountable.
James and August both are accountable imo, if august knew Betty was James's gf. If she knew that, then "August" is just romantification of cheating even tho it is musically the best song in the album along with cardigan.
they both should take the blame because august KNEW james had a gf and went along with it. it'll be another different story if august had no clue she was his sidepiece.
@avantikaroy5146 I always imagined August wasn't aware of James and Betty's relationship (I also imagined her as an older, troubled "cool girl" type, not that much older but like a year or two) when her and James first got together. And that she didn't really realize it until well into their little summer fling, but by then she was already in love with James. Still doesn't make it right for her to stay after finding out, but I thought it was supposed to make August more sympathetic because she was also tricked by James into thinking he was single. But there's also a million different interpretations of these songs, so who knows
@@avantikaroy5146I agree. I just believe that what James did was worse but I never said that what August did was good either. They both participated in a bad thing that hurt Betty.
@@thvf2381Yeah, if she didn’t know then I would actually feel bad for August. But because she did, I can’t really feel bad for someone like that.
It still grinds my gears that Monica named her album TBIM when it was clearly Brandy’s song!
my guilty pleasure motif in songs is "i'm convincing myself that i'll always be better than your current gf". songs in my playlist include "the best you had" by nina nesbitt, "lookalike" by conan gray, "deja vu" by olivia rodrigo, and "bitter" by FLETCHER
What a great video concept! I only realized that I've been listening to "the other woman" songs my entire life without really realizing it (English isn't my first language and while growing up I didn't know what the lyrics meant anyway). If I can bop to a song with this type of narrative while I would never want to find myself in that situation IRL, I think it's entirely possible for an artist to explore scenarios without necessarily having to experience them 100%. My best friend is an artist aswell and his lyrics are an exaggeration of his life and a lot of it never happened. I love that musicians can also invent stories and instead of having books, we have music.
It would be amazing to compare "the other man" to this video. Maybe I'm not aware of a lot of those songs (Cry Me a River comes to mind), but it would be interesting to see the differences in sense of how it is perceived or how intense the pain is. Or maybe we can just collect some of these songs, please if you know of more, I'd love to know!
I think Whitney’s saving all my love for you is a good example of this too. At the end of the song and video she doesn’t even get the man, she just goes off in the distance and moves on despite still wanting him and him making the choice to stay with his wife and I find that very interesting especially for a 80s song.
Whitney's cover of Save my love for you should also be on the list! Her vocals really distract you from the fact that it's a side chick song😅
i never noticed how many songs there are from this perspective since this video lol. now thinking about it, more have popped up in my head such as Va Va Voom by Nicki Minaj, deja vu by Olivia Rodrigo, Say my Name by Destiny’s Child and sooo many more come to mind
WAIT VAVA VOOM- idk why but that song always gave me the visual of a husband cheating w a nanny (it’s such a bop tho)
But say my name is from the perspective of the main chick not the side piece, and deja vu is about an ex dating someone that's just like you.
I thought of Va va voom too! "But I know you got a wife at home, But I need just one night alone"
and Doja Cat Need to to Know "I dont care what your wife is saying"
Avril Lavinge too: Hey hey you you , I dont like your grilfriend. I think you need a new one, I wanna be your girlfriend.
Would you include “Saving all my love for you” by Whitney Houston in this category?
Cause that’s a side chick anthem
I would!
Definitely. Ultimate side piece song ‼️
@@cinderella5208: Wowww..I gotta look at the lyrics. I never ever thought about that 🤔🤔..!!
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“A few stolen moments is all that we share..you’ve got your family and they need you there..”
“my friends try to tell me find a man of my own .. but each time I try I just break down and cry..”
All you need to know..
I've never been cheated on but something about cheaters and "the other woman" just irks me and pisses me off badly, man i dont evem think i can enjoy their music it sucks
:(
Actually, it is something to worry about.. I believe about 50% of people never get caught cheating.
@@OoOMonkeyCoFreakOoO its just disgusting how normalized it is, one of my male classmates talks about how he texts three girls while dating two and my female friends dont really find it weird or unusual, no one does...
And i bet those girls he dates already know he does all that, man why is this world this way...
It’s bc betrayal and trauma is something universal that we can all understand. No matter how you spin it, cheating is abusive and hurtful and I think we tend to resonate with the hurt, even if we haven’t experienced it. Even before I got cheated on for the first time, I hated cheating because loyalty’s always been a value of mine
@@NicoleReign i read once somewhere that cheating should be considered a sort mental abuse. Because it traumatizes the victim and leaves them paranoid for years on end. And I believe its true, because my male best friend got cheated on by the person he considered the love of his life, cheated with his own friend even, he forgave his partner and tried to make things go back to normal but the damage and trauma had already been done, he became paranoid, controlling and almost went crazy. Trying to save that relationship was useless
Another great song about being the other woman is Back to Black by Amy Winehouse.
I've never seen that song as that. More like a man that goes back to an ex after being with someone else for a while.
@@maddylee444 yeah, that's how i saw it. i didn't know it was a cheating situation.
Honorable Mentions:
Destiny's Child - She Can't Love You (I looove this song, I feel like it's "Wonder What She Thinks Of Me" big sister lol)
Changing Faces - The Other Woman
Kelly Price / Shirley Murdock - As We Lay
Xscape - My Little Secret
Taylor could write fictional books cause she has stories to tell and we need deets lol
But a lot of Taylor writing is based on personal experiences. She even said her song writings was like a diary to help her figure out her feelings.
@@CrimsonEclipse I still want ther write a book that weaves in her experiences. Not a tell all or biography. I think her imagination and storytelling could work so well. A lot of celebrities are writing fictional novels based on things they know. I would love to see it with Taylor
I've heard some people say that the song Unthinkable by Alicia Keys(released in 2009) could also allude to her wanting to be the other woman. They say that her lyrics means she is willing to have an affair with the man who is taken as long as he's ready to be with her. People have also compared the lyrics to the allegations that she got with Swizz Beatz while he was with his ex( in 2011). What do you think about it ?
Love Is Blind (off Unthinkable) alludes to it as well.
I think there’s some parallels for sure
@havilahdriver8007 oh definitely, I think the song is trying to get her friends to see the " beauty" of her relationship even if it is an affair
Oh wow, never thought of it that way. I’m so naive lol. It came out when i was a teenager, and i honestly thought it was about losing your virginity 😹
@PynkVelVet That kind of makes sense too. I could see how you came up with the whole virginity theory 😂 "if you ask me I'm ready". Now that I think about the lyrics, I totally get it
to be honest it's sad that cheating now has became a fetish to some people
it always has been
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Not the Lana stan in me immediately reading this title in Lana voice
My God. Same!!
Great thoughtful video! I think you chose great examples to illustrate the nuance of your points!
Awesome video! Very interesting subject, what I like about these songs as they paint very vivid pictures through their lyrics and enables the music videos to be very cinematic. I have a couple of relevant songs I love 'Same Script, Different Cast' by Whitney Houston (Duet With Deborah Cox), and by Perfume by Britney Spears. xo
Side note I love your content and your voice is so relaxing
i literally can't listen to songs about cheating, i don't know why given that i've never been in a relationship yet, i remember listening to Cardigan, August and Betty and not paying attention to the lyrics, but when i did... i had to delete them all from my playlist, i get such a physical reaction when it comes to infidelity that i have to avoid it
Right? Artists need to acknowledge that even if you made a cheating song just for fun it’s still disgusting and not a good feeling
somebody’s already mentioned it but stay by sugar land is about the perspective of the other woman (I had a history teacher obsessed with this song and would play it all the timeand I was like are okay?)it’s a response to Reba Mcentires song “whoever’s in New England” which talks about infidelity from the cheated on perspective
As We Lay by Shirley Murdock (or the Kelly Price version) is one of my favorite “other woman” songs!
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I've just started this video so idk if this so gets mentioned but I really love and appreciate 'The Other Girl' by Halsey and Kelsea Ballerini. There's no pitting women against each other, just two sad girls trying to figure out who was cheated on with who and being sad about it together
I really enjoy songs about cheating (my favorites being Don't Think I'm not by Kandi and Creep by TLC) because I grew up hearing my parents argue about cheating.
I just realized that even I have a song about being "the other woman" lol! It's called "Me Llamas" and its a reggaeton song where a girl is being suspicious of her boyfriend cheating and Im just like "Que tu crees que pasa cuando el me llama" which is spanish for "what do you think happens when he calls me?" There's a lot of nuances that come from being "the other woman" or "the other person" that you can pull inspiration from it from different persectives.
I think when it comes to BUWYGIB its alarming given her dating history. Since naya people arent surprised.
Right that’s my thing- like her actual life is better evidence than some lyrics
@@naomi.cannibali completely agree, some of her songs depict that like 'one last time' 'boyfriend' 'into you' just to name a few
I have to admit I didn’t realize that’s what “one last time” was about until all this unfolded 😭
@@naomi.cannibal dont worry neither did i until i REALLY listen to the lyrics, she really had me singing about sleeping with someone's man as a kid😂
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I wonder what she thinks of me is the seal of the deal that Halle has a siren voice, hence a mermaid.
I always loved Aaliyah’s “I can be” and even though I remember myself singing along it was years later that I did understand the lyrics 🤣
On the rap side of things there's a a few songs you probably haven't heard of because they are old and from underground artist Gangsta Boo & Khia! Gangsta Boo has 2 songs one of which is called "I'll Be The Other Woman" from her debut album Enquiring Minds circa 1998 and the other is "Your Girls Man" where she raps about what to do in the situation your friends number in your mans pants from I think 2001 off her album "Both Worlds" and as for Khia she has a long called "We Were Meant To Be" off her debut album from 2002 "Thug Misses" where she talks about craving a man who is already with another woman and how hard it is for the man and Khia to be in love despite him belonging to someone else! I know Khia doesn't have a good reputation these days but she makes some bops tbh! Also may Gangsta Boo RIP she passed away earlier this year but she will forever be a legend for female rap
My favorite song about being the other woman is probably Does He Love You? by Rilo Kiley, the "twist" at the end just kills me every time lol. Adia by Sarah McLachlan is another one in a similar vein. I think the topic just hits harder in these bc there's multiple levels of betrayal going on; like it's not just trust between partners being broken but trust between friends as well.
For cheating songs in general I really love TLC's Creep, it's simultaneously sexy and heartbreaking. The phrase "hurt people, hurt people" comes to mind
I haven’t seen anyone mention it but Jordin Sparks has a song called “Tell Him That I Love Him” where the wife is calling the side chick and says basically I know what he’s doing. Tell him I love him and I’ll see him in the morning. She tells the mistress to tell the husband that she’s pregnant and for the husband not to be late for church in the morning. I love it because she makes it clear that she’s not blaming the other woman but that she’s not letting her man go.
When I think of the “other woman” in music, I would say Who is she 2 U by Brandy can belong here.
This video just helped add songs to my side chick music playlist 🥲. “As We Lay” is still my favorite anthem in this genre.
When a song about a happy cheater I change it
Cheating is not okay at all in any way shape or form
As soon as I saw the title, my mind went straight to "My Little Secret" by Xscape!
Liked the video!
i know its funnn and its "just music" but tbh i dont think i will b saying these lyrics out loud i dont want to subconsciously manifest this energy into my life, idkkkk just made me think about it for some reason
Yeah, I'm just.. as somebody who was betrayed, I'm just like, why are people celebrating this? Like, congrats on traumatizing someone? Girl 😭
My first time being early. Yay!
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I enjoyed this deep dive! Awesome video analysis.
Thank you!
Now why they used that dramatic horror movie music in that Ariana tik tok😂
Why would anyone care about how the other woman feels? You don't deserve empathy if you cheat. PERIOD.
Another “other woman” song that I adore but hurts me deeply is Talking Behind Your Back by Lee Ann Womack. It’s from the perspective of-presumably-the girlfriend or wife who’s telling her man’s ex that he’s not over her. Crushes me to the core but so beautifully sung
“But he can’t get over
What he had with you
He tears me up
That’s where he’s at
You got him good
I hate you bad”
Kills me
can’t wait to watch this! i’m so intrigued already!
Ariana’s situation is a reminder that your past will always catch up with you 😭😭😭
So many popular songs about being the other woman. Can’t think of any about being the other man lol. I don’t count men rapping about “f-ing your girl” - where the tone is more retaliatory
This is an interesting point- can’t think of any of the top of my head either! Maybe “you should let me love you” but the girl Mario is singing about in that song could be single
This is such a great analysis/breakdown! ❤
I try to remember that just because a singer writes something and/or sings it doesn’t mean they stand by it, but oh em gee I seriously get the ick when I see people make and happily sing songs about cheating. And they seem proud of it too. Example being My Little Secret by Xscape. Just gross.
Edit: I guess me absolutely despising cheaters and homewreckers made me like this lol.
Ate as always 💅
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I'm Brazilian and it was really nice to see a brazilian artist in your video! ❤
If your a women that believes in the sanctity of marriage you may make songs like Jolene or perfect (by Selena Gomez) but not songs like breakup with your girlfriend or weekend.