The thought of her being able to take down multiple golems while they're being healed by a gramaphone is just beyond me ...I really should get around to building Aak...
i think the meta shifting from afk operators to more burst style operator makes the game much easier to balance. It also allows tanks and medic more use in a team to stall enemies between powerful burst of skill
... Or you just cycle burst skills? It's not even new... Cc doesn't favor afk over burst. Who still needs tanks and medics when you can start with Silverash then pozy, then eyjafjalla, then chalter. By that time, Silverash would be ready again... Rinse and repeat.
@@soulburner1860 CC8 shows how important tanks and medics are. Same with CC10 (especially that one challenge quest where enemies with constant arts damage). If Arknights shifts their enemies to more high dps long range enemies, those fast redeploy strats with OP 6 stars dps would probably slow down a little
@@ammarbaagu you know you can just kill everything from afar without having to worry about the arts damage in Cc10. The damage requires a lot of mitigation to handle and it's much easier to just burst the enemies down unless you'd rather afk and that only works because it's risk 6 in total. Stack more risks and it's impossible to hold them back... Which is why nobody took that for higher risks. Cc8 is designed just for aggro control, once again, only lower risk strats would stack up on defense and healing because you can tank it there. Higher risks would have either nightingale or mullbery on field at once and rarely both because the goal isn't to have a drop and forget afk defense.
These upcoming months are brutal. Skipping mlynar, stainless and the nian sibling. Grabbing Dorothy, Reed Alt. Tex. Alt. And Qui Bai, hopefully I can grab the ones I want . .
She looks super solid and pretty strong from everything I've seen so far. Solidly compelling operator in Ak in 2023 especially with that lovely design.
She isn't some crazy powercreep like Mlynar, Texas or Reed but she is definitely above average, way better than majority of casters and can sometimes compete with Surtr as a heli-drop arts nuke.
From the showcases I've seen she seems pretty average. I don't think she'll be used in max risk clears anytime soon, but also she shouldn't be too hard to slot in a team if you wanna use her. The main problem I see with her kit is her downtime. 55 sp cost is pretty large for what the skill offers, and I think I would have liked to see it cost about 40 sp to help her cycles sync up better with operators like mlynar, suzuran(who hits 44s downtime with her module effect), horn etc. The skill just looks like a 40sp skill to me. For reference, a commonly used op with 55s of downtime is chalter who usually has better uptime due to her attack interval and talent. (In fact, I think chalter's mix of CC and wide range aoe damage makes her a very apt comparison to qiubai despite being a ranged op) That's the performance I expect when I see a 55 sp cost skill, and qiubai looks like she falls short of it.
So you are expecting every 55sp cost skill to be meta defining? I don't think everything has to be Silverash/Surtr/ Chalter/Eyja/Mudrock/Mlynar broken as long as it is not on the lower end like Mostima/Dusk and such operators. I think Qiubai is more than viable, definitely a strong and worthwhile choice if you want a pseudo arts guard that doesn't get forced to retreat like Surtr.
@@Khroniclas I dont get it. Your reply _sounds_ like its disagreeing with me but the content of what you're actually saying basically agrees with my conclusion 100%? Erm... Thanks?
@@char1194 I don't disagree with your placement of Qiubai in the meta. It just sounded like you expect all 55 sp cost skills to be gamebreaking like chalter. For me I don't expect anything to be OP, but I just (sometimes) hope it is. I am basically just happy if something isn't laughably bad. That is all I really wanted to say + my personal surprise in regards to your sp cost remark
@@Khroniclas I guess the word "expect" is whats causing confusion here. By that point in the paragraph I was comparing her to meta operators to evaluate her place in the meta, so that was the context I used. Maybe it would have been more accurate to say "this is the performance level an operator needs to compete on the highest level" As someone who used launch skadi and mostima I'm fine even with way below average ops lmao, but I do find meta operators more interesting to discuss
@@char1194 I see, when you put it like that your intentions are more clear for sure. I was so baffled about the sp statement, with broken operators having both more and less sp cost, with meh or "bad" operators having close to double sp cost sometimes. Haha
@@Akane_007 yeah i have this one guy in my friend list who already had an e2 max level Ling before I could even pull for her with the free 10 pull ticket back at her release. Insane stuff
Seems not good, you actually need aoe debuffer to do some decent damage and kinda big sp cost for what it does. I mean she can deal with low res enemies but every other arts damage dealers can do it to. I think I'll stick with eyja and surtr unless some good module or gamemode for her come.
Now that I got Qiubai in global, I was so excited when I saw Dreamy's got showcase vids of her... Thanks for getting the numerical DPS values on her skills... Super miss you on Arknights... T.T
good thing for us cause we finally 6 star guard who can deal arts damage and holding lane properly (burst damage hold lane became popular in this year eh) she also like mlynar, good pairing with gavial alter for cycling combo skill. she's above average for sure but not really meta breaker
@@XiRiith only 1 block and can't hit drone so well... I'm still waiting for arts guard with infinite duration skill, maybe HG will make second 6 star arts guard for holding lane
@@abduhzuhdi8391 Yep, I forgot about drones -.-' One block only can be a problem but as I have M3 all her skills, not really: she kills really quickly.
damage is definitely decent. But that cycle though, i think i would've taken a shit before it's over. Note: i'm talking about the original, un-spbuffed, saria, liskarm, ptilopsis, etc..
Yea, TBH I feel like it should've had a lot less SP cost so that at least the average DPS would be around 2k+ which is fair considering she doesn't have a built-in RES ignore like Surtr does which is great considering that 99% of enemies in the game have a default 20 RES.
Wow! SilverAsh still relevant? Who would've thought! Other AK TH-camrs keeps doomposting SilverAsh due to Mlynar's introduction yet Mlynar won't even be able to replicate what SA did in this stage. Interesting!
Yea, she is basically stuck with Suzuran which also limits her placement despite being a melee operator since it has to be somewhere which Suzuran can be placed conveniently.
Well she really look balanced but looks like im leaning to use her as a helidrop more with that skill 🤣. Anyway we already a bunch of those helidrop ops so im more curious of the potential of her s2. Also unrelated but i heard thorns s3 struggle on ch11 enemies and he isn't reliable there? Just curious if this is true because that means arts is the dps for ch11(aside from the disgusting phy dps ops) .
iirc she charges her skill faster than she can be redeployed, and that is not taking into account that after deployment you still have to wait a few seconds. Personally would just leave her on the field and let Surtr/Silverash/Eyja do the dropping.
So.... Quibai best friend could be Manticore? I mean... her S1 counts as a slow isn't it? I don't remember if her S1 counts as a slow or as a speed reduction
Sluggish(the slow quibai and slow support use) are 80% mvspd reduction. So if the skill specify it's reduction like manticore skill and module trait,chances are it's actually not sluggish
You’d have to go with either Ethan or Mizuki for that. Ethan to offer more CC and support to Qiubai, Mizuki for more often binds and more damage from him in case you’re up against high res enemies.
Unfortunately, I don't think that will be a thing. Just "Surtr" it, is special for having her own RES ignore and braindead survivability. However! Qiubai does have other stuff going for her like big range and able to bind enemies. Her skill rotation is also technically faster compared to Surtr since Surtr needs to redeploy.
@@LisaraScarlet yeah i agree. I was joking But i do like her design a lot and her kit is very good I think she's worth M9 and she can be very powerful in IS and in the new survival mode
@@nyr1015 Module can still change some stuff here and there, depending on how strong they are on lords/arts guards That being said, still gonna raise her cause I like her a lot.
@@jillstingray8828 problem is lord already stacked af, i don't know if HG will even give them anytime soon or give out something meaning full. Probably will just reduce the dmg reduction from 80% to 90% or something
Honestly speaking this unit is disappointing. A character doesn't need to be meta for me to pull; I like non-OP characters like Dorothy because they have potential for fun strats, but this unit is so plain, boring, and underwhelming at the same time even if her design is good.
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Quibai is definitely going to be my next waifu.
OUR waifu
The thought of her being able to take down multiple golems while they're being healed by a gramaphone is just beyond me
...I really should get around to building Aak...
Haha someone actually noticed. Yea, the golems are being healed making it way harder than it should've been.
I forgot they did that, but noticed one of the golem's healthbar kept disappearing when Bai was normal attacking it, and then saw the 15k heals xD
Seems pretty strong. Quite nice to see a character that can have interesting synergies as well as not being broken.
i think the meta shifting from afk operators to more burst style operator makes the game much easier to balance. It also allows tanks and medic more use in a team to stall enemies between powerful burst of skill
... Or you just cycle burst skills?
It's not even new... Cc doesn't favor afk over burst.
Who still needs tanks and medics when you can start with Silverash then pozy, then eyjafjalla, then chalter.
By that time, Silverash would be ready again... Rinse and repeat.
@@soulburner1860 CC8 shows how important tanks and medics are. Same with CC10 (especially that one challenge quest where enemies with constant arts damage). If Arknights shifts their enemies to more high dps long range enemies, those fast redeploy strats with OP 6 stars dps would probably slow down a little
@@ammarbaagu you know you can just kill everything from afar without having to worry about the arts damage in Cc10.
The damage requires a lot of mitigation to handle and it's much easier to just burst the enemies down unless you'd rather afk and that only works because it's risk 6 in total.
Stack more risks and it's impossible to hold them back... Which is why nobody took that for higher risks.
Cc8 is designed just for aggro control, once again, only lower risk strats would stack up on defense and healing because you can tank it there.
Higher risks would have either nightingale or mullbery on field at once and rarely both because the goal isn't to have a drop and forget afk defense.
These upcoming months are brutal. Skipping mlynar, stainless and the nian sibling. Grabbing Dorothy, Reed Alt. Tex. Alt. And Qui Bai, hopefully I can grab the ones I want . .
Feel free to ignore what I say but I think missing out on Mlynar is just too much. Mlynar is just wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too strong.
GUYS GUYS SURTR CAN HIT DRONES NOW
Smh forgetting about the first anti drone Surtr Fiammetta, are we?
Wait, that's frotsleaf's attack range!
She IS 6* frostleaf!
She looks super solid and pretty strong from everything I've seen so far. Solidly compelling operator in Ak in 2023 especially with that lovely design.
She looks fun honestly, any opinions about her so far?
She isn't some crazy powercreep like Mlynar, Texas or Reed but she is definitely above average, way better than majority of casters and can sometimes compete with Surtr as a heli-drop arts nuke.
From the showcases I've seen she seems pretty average. I don't think she'll be used in max risk clears anytime soon, but also she shouldn't be too hard to slot in a team if you wanna use her.
The main problem I see with her kit is her downtime. 55 sp cost is pretty large for what the skill offers, and I think I would have liked to see it cost about 40 sp to help her cycles sync up better with operators like mlynar, suzuran(who hits 44s downtime with her module effect), horn etc. The skill just looks like a 40sp skill to me.
For reference, a commonly used op with 55s of downtime is chalter who usually has better uptime due to her attack interval and talent. (In fact, I think chalter's mix of CC and wide range aoe damage makes her a very apt comparison to qiubai despite being a ranged op) That's the performance I expect when I see a 55 sp cost skill, and qiubai looks like she falls short of it.
So you are expecting every 55sp cost skill to be meta defining? I don't think everything has to be Silverash/Surtr/ Chalter/Eyja/Mudrock/Mlynar broken as long as it is not on the lower end like Mostima/Dusk and such operators.
I think Qiubai is more than viable, definitely a strong and worthwhile choice if you want a pseudo arts guard that doesn't get forced to retreat like Surtr.
@@Khroniclas I dont get it. Your reply _sounds_ like its disagreeing with me but the content of what you're actually saying basically agrees with my conclusion 100%?
Erm... Thanks?
@@char1194 I don't disagree with your placement of Qiubai in the meta.
It just sounded like you expect all 55 sp cost skills to be gamebreaking like chalter.
For me I don't expect anything to be OP, but I just (sometimes) hope it is. I am basically just happy if something isn't laughably bad.
That is all I really wanted to say + my personal surprise in regards to your sp cost remark
@@Khroniclas I guess the word "expect" is whats causing confusion here. By that point in the paragraph I was comparing her to meta operators to evaluate her place in the meta, so that was the context I used. Maybe it would have been more accurate to say "this is the performance level an operator needs to compete on the highest level"
As someone who used launch skadi and mostima I'm fine even with way below average ops lmao, but I do find meta operators more interesting to discuss
@@char1194 I see, when you put it like that your intentions are more clear for sure.
I was so baffled about the sp statement, with broken operators having both more and less sp cost, with meh or "bad" operators having close to double sp cost sometimes. Haha
Yeah screw meta Im saving and going all out for this lady. I hope there will be people to lend me their Młynars and ChongYues later 💀
Don't worry. You will see them in support unit as soon as the banner dropped
@@Akane_007 yeah i have this one guy in my friend list who already had an e2 max level Ling before I could even pull for her with the free 10 pull ticket back at her release. Insane stuff
I can see her shine in SSS game mode with the sp and aspd stacking, similar to how leizi absolutely shine in SSS.
She shines.... as does Passenger. I love a fully stacked Passenger.
Seems not good, you actually need aoe debuffer to do some decent damage and kinda big sp cost for what it does.
I mean she can deal with low res enemies but every other arts damage dealers can do it to.
I think I'll stick with eyja and surtr unless some good module or gamemode for her come.
Now that I got Qiubai in global, I was so excited when I saw Dreamy's got showcase vids of her... Thanks for getting the numerical DPS values on her skills... Super miss you on Arknights... T.T
good thing for us cause we finally 6 star guard who can deal arts damage and holding lane properly (burst damage hold lane became popular in this year eh)
she also like mlynar, good pairing with gavial alter for cycling combo skill.
she's above average for sure but not really meta breaker
Sutr with S1 or S2:
- 6* guard? Checked
- arts damage? Checked
- holding lane properly? Checked
- Burst damage? Checked
@@XiRiith only 1 block and can't hit drone so well...
I'm still waiting for arts guard with infinite duration skill, maybe HG will make second 6 star arts guard for holding lane
@@abduhzuhdi8391 Yep, I forgot about drones -.-' One block only can be a problem but as I have M3 all her skills, not really: she kills really quickly.
damage is definitely decent. But that cycle though, i think i would've taken a shit before it's over.
Note: i'm talking about the original, un-spbuffed, saria, liskarm, ptilopsis, etc..
Yea, TBH I feel like it should've had a lot less SP cost so that at least the average DPS would be around 2k+ which is fair considering she doesn't have a built-in RES ignore like Surtr does which is great considering that 99% of enemies in the game have a default 20 RES.
H9-1 basically SilverAsh showcase
Wow! SilverAsh still relevant? Who would've thought! Other AK TH-camrs keeps doomposting SilverAsh due to Mlynar's introduction yet Mlynar won't even be able to replicate what SA did in this stage. Interesting!
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The golem part made my Wallet wet
Whenever S3s attack speed ramps up, it looks like she's spamming judgement cuts.
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I like her. Extremely excited for her. I like Crowd Control characters alot.
damn! she is awe-inspiring that she leave the enemy at a stand still :P
I would pull for her meta be damned
Yes that means skipping reed alter(much to my pain) and chongyue and lin(No regrets)
if lappland S2 is manually activated, she becomes qiubai (but a bit low class)?
she looks so cool
Would you say s2 or s3 gets mastery priority for IS4?
Unfortunately, I stopped playing a long time ago so I'm not a good source of advice.
@@LisaraScarlet ahh, my bad! thanks anyway ☺️
Her kit seems intresting but the constant need for slow limits her a ton
Yea, she is basically stuck with Suzuran which also limits her placement despite being a melee operator since it has to be somewhere which Suzuran can be placed conveniently.
Is she good enough to replace Thorns? I despise Thorns.
That... golem shred is not okay at all.
Gotta appreciate that taste in music too
Well she really look balanced but looks like im leaning to use her as a helidrop more with that skill 🤣. Anyway we already a bunch of those helidrop ops so im more curious of the potential of her s2.
Also unrelated but i heard thorns s3 struggle on ch11 enemies and he isn't reliable there? Just curious if this is true because that means arts is the dps for ch11(aside from the disgusting phy dps ops) .
iirc she charges her skill faster than she can be redeployed, and that is not taking into account that after deployment you still have to wait a few seconds.
Personally would just leave her on the field and let Surtr/Silverash/Eyja do the dropping.
Does she work with mostima?
03:10 lmao >50% with from ifrit.
She will be top tier in SSS with max Specialist buff
UwU
So.... Quibai best friend could be Manticore?
I mean... her S1 counts as a slow isn't it? I don't remember if her S1 counts as a slow or as a speed reduction
Manticore S1 is only reducing movement speed, not inflicting slow debuff.
Sluggish(the slow quibai and slow support use) are 80% mvspd reduction. So if the skill specify it's reduction like manticore skill and module trait,chances are it's actually not sluggish
Actually ethan seems like the better pick here, his bind should be able to proc her talent consistently.
So she would pair well with Ethan or Dorothy?
What about Manticore S1 with Module as her support? permaslow
That's movement speed reduction, not slow. Slow would be like decel binder trait I think. But she can have strong synergy with Ethan.
You’d have to go with either Ethan or Mizuki for that. Ethan to offer more CC and support to Qiubai, Mizuki for more often binds and more damage from him in case you’re up against high res enemies.
@@mandudebro1677 i see, thx
Just Bai it
Unfortunately, I don't think that will be a thing. Just "Surtr" it, is special for having her own RES ignore and braindead survivability. However! Qiubai does have other stuff going for her like big range and able to bind enemies. Her skill rotation is also technically faster compared to Surtr since Surtr needs to redeploy.
@@LisaraScarlet yeah i agree. I was joking
But i do like her design a lot and her kit is very good
I think she's worth M9 and she can be very powerful in IS and in the new survival mode
@@nyr1015 Module can still change some stuff here and there, depending on how strong they are on lords/arts guards
That being said, still gonna raise her cause I like her a lot.
@@jillstingray8828 problem is lord already stacked af, i don't know if HG will even give them anytime soon or give out something meaning full. Probably will just reduce the dmg reduction from 80% to 90% or something
@@JeremyZero Not really? 6* get 2 modules.
Honestly speaking this unit is disappointing. A character doesn't need to be meta for me to pull; I like non-OP characters like Dorothy because they have potential for fun strats, but this unit is so plain, boring, and underwhelming at the same time even if her design is good.
Yes, ez skip
Agree, her char design is so good but im a bit bummed with how bland her kit is.
Oh well at least I could be easily skip for MH collab next door
Dorothy and Stainless for me are peak fun 6* ops to mess around with