I love how the ability level has the description “Throwing knives can be used to interact with elements” instead of saying “Can turn off generators/batteries/disable traps with a single knife with no cool down” How they thought this was a good idea is beyond me.
Upgrading grandpa fast means nothing when a wyatt can rush objectives. Combo that with a danny to tamper ana for distracting and leland to simply exist and its gg@@estrelaplatinada6506
@@estrelaplatinada6506Bones is one of the most mid fam we’ve gotten in the game and I hate to say it cos I love Moseley…His bombs are so easily countered it’s insulting, and his Window/Barricade/Well perks might as well be considered self stun perks…Wyatt however breaks the game due to the fact that traps places on Batt and gen are completely useless seeing as he can turn it off from 15ft away.
Wanna know something else crazy? His knives ignore stun immunity from grapples. We tested with grapples and sneak attacks and it's only grapples. You just Choose Fight grapple and right as the stun is about to end you can throw the knife.
very true! the maps still have some barricades that block upstairs and basement exit! objectives!!!! the family house is a good example there is a random spawn barricade that blocks the fuse box so if your hands with no barricade perk to destroy it or no leatherface on the team in a random solo Q, with an nancy and johnny you literally CANNOT turn off the fuse box LMAO!. YOU LITERALLY CANNOT TURN OFF AN OBJECTIVE cause no family member can get to it. TCM devs need to stop with the content and start fixing their game before people quit for good cause playing family atm 80% of the time doesn't feel fun and playing vs team victims it literally feels like they get cheats.
@@avrandlane2735 it’s so insane to me that they never once addressed, or even acknowledged that problem on Family house with fuse being capable of being literally impossible to defend, but god forbid two objectives are a little too close together, and easier to patrol for Family, Gun will move them two football fields away when Victims whine about it. They have a very clear favoritism towards Victims.
Get ready for 3 months of this ☠️. I’m gonna take a break from TCM, I’m actually regretting purchasing the DLC… This might be a reoccurring issue with the Devs and their statements involving not doing hot fixes and kill switches is concerning.
@ i can’t remember where it was since it was a while back but i think i was the last stream they had when they where bombing everybody with negative news.
I remember watching a stream and one of the devs was acting like an absolute 😺, when he was asked about all the games problems. And instead of acknowledging, he got all sassy and defensive and was like: "Hur dur if you dont like it then dont buy it". well the problem was people already bought it and was tryna help making the game better. But unfortunately he was too dumb do recognize that and felt offended. Thats when I knew there was no hope for this game longterm. Wich is sad because I really like it but the devs keep messing shit up is so funny😂
Notice how each time they made a dumb op character everybody was like "It can't get much worse" only for them to prove otherwise? Danny was busted, then came even more busted Hands, and now after Hands we get this absolute Wyatt who makes both Hands and Danny look like perfectly balanced characters. Shit's so ridiculous you can make a meme with "Amateurs" meme template lol.
Two solutions: 1. Change the ability entirely. Can't affect objectives, only non-objective interactables like traps, chickens, etc. 2. Remove the wait time before being able to reset an objective as a Family member. This would speed up gameplay overall, and enable more insane things like Wyatt's 3 to be released without much issue; but it comes at the cost of less leniency when you finally do get an exit open as a Victim.
I think he should not interact with objects, the character was designed to be a protector, not an expert in machines like Dany. It seems good to me that he is able to break traps infinitely as an upgrade to level 3 if he has the pick up his knife upgrade to level 2. The objectives are unnecessary because no one talks about how useful it is to not need a knife or a perk to disarm traps.
Or just make it so that holding the ability makes the crosshair wiggle around just a little, making it impossible to line up cross map shots but still effective at close range
4. Rearrange the skill tree. Put Retrival and Interaction on 1st and 3rd column, so that cannot get them both. 5. Make knife not be able to reuse/retrieve if it disables gen/battery/trap. 6. Can only use knife as bone scrap (Interaction).
If it retains its ability to disble traps then it should consume the knife. Infinite bomb squad is still crazy especially when you consider it's faster than old bomb squad.
The people defending this are the same people that complain about hands, hands can’t instantly turn back on multiple objectives , theres a counter to hands and the counter is doing more than 1 objective but 0 counter to Wyatt just like how it was with Danny last December how can you defend something so ridiculous and people wonder why the victim queues are so long and the people that complain about hands, play hands and counter Wyatt if it’s just so easy right? Majority of people that complain don’t even play both sides just wait until more people level Wyatt to 3 how much of lobby simulator this game will be until a fix, this game is cooked if the devs can’t learn from past mistakes
@@brachialtick6539 It's a user thing. I've got zero desire to be that cheap, but you'll always have folks that stoop that low online. Standard. I'd be willing to bet that the Devs never did this ONCE whilst playing themselves. They simply didn't foresee trolls walking to the edge of maps, throwing knives like goons trying to exploit the game. This game was designed to be played a very specific way, (Stealth, in their words) which 99% of the userbase doesn't follow. It's a sweat fest with typical online gaming mentalities = shortcut to win because my life is meaningless without my precious xp points.
I can't wait for Victims to start escaping before the opening Cutscenes even finish 😜 BTW, Guess The FAM can just put away all those Traps/Bombs/Poisons when playing against Wyatt then
That's not a human stare. That's the stare of Family Players who just realised getting Gen done across the map is Real and it will haunt them in their dreams.
Saw a Video the other day. Generator had a Hitch Trap and A Hands trap on it. One Knife circumventing all of it... I liked this game... Now I don't want to play anymore... I don't.. Danny was bad enough. They complained about Hands Ripstall and it got a Nerf... and then Gun drops this.... I'm done!
Not everyone will play this way. It's only the usual generic sweat lords that'll embody this exploit. Don't quit. For everyone that stops playing, you bury the game. If anyone's being a dick, block them and move on to the next game.
@xoChilledxo Content creators will showcase the flaw, that's to be expected. It's the folks who resort to using this as an active method every game that are the problem.
I like Wyatt’s ability it does need a nerf or rework to balance it but I like the options it has for example you can snipe and be careful with the family or be a huge distraction and gunsling knives like the magnificent seven or this … like I said it needs balancing but this one of the best thought out Abilities for victims right now
Oh boy. An ability with co cooldown, 3 charges, 50% chance to retain a charge on family hit, 100% on objective hit, which allows to stun like leland, turn things off instantly lile danny, disable traps instantly and stab grandpa without worrying about traps or patrolling family. Just. Wow.
This lvl 3 needs to be completely replaced but in his defense they need to buff the hotboxes of the knife it's frustrating seeing the cross hairs line up only to see the knife hit some weird map texture
Family DLC character: pretty much just a worse hitchhiker with 2/3 of their stats being completely bugged and any interesting mechanics locked behind perks, easily avoidable traps (just hold S when you hear one) Victim DLC character: Amazing base stats, goated skill tree routes, can instantly do objectives like a weird offspring of connie and danny (without having to study anything)
@@vismattress5760hands is nerfed into the ground already, because victim players have 0 idea how to do double fuse plays or adapt and resort to crying instead. Please develop an actual opinion instead of saying “Duhhhh Hands” when someone points out how busted this game is
@vismattress5760 let's see... Wyatt Wipes knife... gen Dies. Hands Ripstalls Gen and has a long cooldown. Wyatt wipes second knife... Gens gone again... How exactly does Hands counter this?
The devs don’t play their own game, plain and simple. Never seen a group so disconnected from their product before, they probably already 90% done their next game they gonna abandon after ppl buy it.
They absolutely do, but unlike most generic folk, they don't play like sweaty try hards who think xp points will enrich their real lives. The game has issues, but users don't have to entertain the exploits. I use Wyatt and never pull this shit. If folks can't game straight up, they shouldn't be gaming.
@brachialtick6539 Then add yourself to the list of people who just throw their toys out the pram, and leave, thus burying the game for good. You guys cut your noses off to spite your face. It's not ideal, but deal with it. There's tons of things in the game I dislike, but why would I shun the entire thing, which is in general, a ton of fun, just because of a few shit people using questionable tactics? Press on, else with the 'I'm leaving' mentality, you all kill the game for good.
@@Utoobzz You talk like players don't look for the most optimistic ways to win in other games. Literally every game has this happen, and it's the developers' job to keep the game fun, they are the ultimate judges of what is and isn't allowed because the game is theirs. If they are the ones allowing this to happen then they are responsible.
@BabyGrinch23 Been playing since DLC launched. Not seen a single Wyatt do this. If players are that shit they have to shortcut for a win, then that's their failing. The devs didn't make this ability with uber sweaty nerds in mind who scour every last corner of games for exploits. The game is supposed to be played in a certain manner, but users, as always, fuck it up. Just because it's there, doesn't mean you should use it. Community needs to be better than that.
Aj creating killer drama, no one would think a victim escaped that fast, I think everyone thinks - "god damn it, we have a noob killer that turned off the gen" or give up - "we have a cheater in the lobby, gg"
i dont know, i like being able to throw the knife across the map and hitting the generator. skill throw. id make it so if the generator is trapped by Hands that it doesnt turn off the generator (the trap takes the hit and is undone instead of the generator turning off) possibly make the generator harder than a trapped generator as survivor to turn off if hit with a trap on it, and make it easier for a killer to turn it back on if hit by knife in general. oh and id correlate the amount of progress done to turn off the generator to the distance at which you throw the knife making longer distance shots better and not rewarding close shots. and make the hitbox for knife very specific
Wanna know something even worse? You don't need Bomb Squad. The throwing knife will disable any trap it hits, and from what I've seen, it will disable Hands' trap AND the equipment it's on with the same hit. Edit: Also, hitchhiker trap? knife it, retrieve knife. Nancy trap? Knife it, retrieve knife. Hands trap on a gate? Knife it, retrieve knife.
Tbh I think they gone make us wait a little as they should cuz hands was op for WEEKS and family didn’t say shit now they get a lil taste of their own medicine 💀
Ok I’m a victim player and I love Wyatt but at the same time, Danny should be the only one who should be able to turn off Gen instantly or atleast make it so there’s only a 25% chance the knife actually turns it off
Lmao I hate Wyatt’s. I went up against one who popped a lock then he looped me by the generator which he then throws a knife at the generator then ran out the door 😊
AJames did you know you can break the windows with wyatt's knife's mabey this could be a good way too make them mad when they see that the gen turned off Infront of them
And how do victims escape brother, through objectives. Last time I checked there are no doors or significant objectives in the side garden😂 I'm fine with him chasing me inside the house, there's significance to that.
They need to nerf this. Like maybe give the knife has a certain range or it can't be collected after shutting off objectives. I don't really have any ideas how to fix this but, doesn't matter either way it's just a no win either way.
Release broken new content to drum up interest and or sales. Nerf broken content later to "balance" it with the rest of the game after sales and or interest recedes. It's rather formulaic stuff anymore. I wouldn't worry about it.
I like how once a victim come out everyone complains about their ability but nothing about family and the fact that hands is still broken. , god sometimes I hate seeing your stuff on my page
meanwhile family gets another useless character!!!! BONES IS COMPLETE TRASH! bombs take like a couple of seconds to explode giving anyone with an average brain plenty of time to escape!!!!! you just run by the bombs and nothing happens to the victim! if anything the bombs are more likely to hurt bones or another family member in chase LMAO!!!! due to the detonation issue, the family is more likly to get stun by the bomb or forced to stop due to the explosion about to occur!!!!, on top of that bones has an endurance and strength issue atm both are stuck at default and not working properly!, bones is pretty much useless. anyone know if the TCM DEVS have brain cells and the knife throw doesn't put the generator on cd! as well, cause family still has to run over there and take time to turn the generator back on which takes a decent amount of time as well, when the wyatt can just almost instant turn it off at a range even without being all the way across the map you can still turn it off at range, im just wonder if TCM devs used any common sense to realize the victim is ALREADY saving huge amount of time not having to kick the gen. so that would also be extremely broken if wyatt also puts the generator on cd as well that family can't even touch it for a certain amount of time. i mean a good example is slaughterhouse HTF! you going to defend that generator? its literally right next to the gate. this is why i don't even care to play family anymore the game is extremely busted and favors victims. family can't even chase unless you have chase perks!!!! so that alone is already a huge issue in balance since most barricades are already a free escape!, why not make it so barricades damage victims a little bit due to them having barbwired, you get a free escape but you take a little bit of damage each time you use a barricade. another issue is crawl SPACES wtf is the point of closing them????, family kicks the crawl space right in front of me and i have plenty of time to open the crawl space before they can even reach the other side LMAO!!!!, at least make it so crawl spaces can be jammed for like 2 seconds and victims can't open them, if a family member kicked it down recently???.
Play Test? Gun? That would take time and cost money. Far easier to just release untested content and get the paying public to test it. As for this, there's no way they'll make any changes whilst Wyatt is still new and making money (no doubt more money as people learn how OP he is). It'll be February before its "under investigation", then a few months down the line they'll nerf something of his that has no impact on him at all. His knives turn off objectives from a great distance, okay we'll remove bomb squad from his skill tree. Typical.
“This isn’t fair for family mains” I mean yeah but y’all do nothing to prevent stuff like this with chasing 1 player/ chasing 1 player in the basement in the first 60-90 secs. Lmao. Y’all crying about a broken ability yet y’all be so kill hungry in games that even without Wyatt y’all still let a person like me escape in 3 minutes because 2 of y’all are chasing 1 of my teammates in the basement. Make that make sense before we complain about anything..
yea not really smart by TCM devs anyways! clearly no brain cells i mean lets take like a solid good 60seconds to think about balance!, the escape time for victims can be easily 2mins? on top of connie and danny! with victims also getting an trap remove perk up to 5times for traps without needing bonescrap. that alone is alot to bypass objectives real fast!!. they need to put some of these TCM DEVS on janitor duty cause they're clearly not thinking very well.
It's not even the throwing from that distance that's a problem, turning off objectives AT A DISTANCE is already way too much and needs to be patched out asap
And they wonder why they lose players daily then content creators show more broken ways to use these abilities no offense btw AJ But it's just ignorant the people the can play this game everyday and not feel like jumping out of airplane I commend you
@ no ofc I mean if they let you do stuff like that do it by all means it’s just gun allowed stuff like that for too long and it’s become a problem in the long run
I feel like ballancing his 3rd would be tough. A fix I could see would be that instead of deactivating the object, it would instead make the object be disabled at max efficency. It would mesh well with Wyatt as he already has middling proficiency, so his knife throw could make up for it instead.
I don't think it's that difficult, people forgot to mention that in addition to objectives he can destroy traps/kill chickens, that in itself is already quite powerful, he doesn't need to interact with objects. For example he could throw his knife at a generator with a trap, deactivate the trap that moment and be able to kick it.
@BabyGrinch23 That could work. Though that may leave a bad taste in some players' mouths. Many players do know that the knives can also interact with traps, grandpa, chickens, and whathaveyou. Players will however always choose the option that is most beneficial. And that most beneficial is how it disables those objectives. I've never liked the nerfing strategy of cutting content or removing/downgrading features. If you take away the shiny from the playerbase, they will feel like they got punished for using it. If they added a twist or gave something else to distract or make good on the removal, then players are more accepting of change. That's just my opinion, I'm just a fool on the internet.
@@LocktheRed I will tell you what they are going to do, according to the responses they have given to the criticisms. It seems that they will move the level two upgrades that allow you to recover your knives, to me it seems stupid because if they do that, disarming traps with knives will be useless, no one is going to waste a knife to disarm the traps, they are only going to use them for the objectives and that's it. And if they put invisible barriers to not be able to hit the targets, it would also be a bad idea because it can be fun if someone is already outside but for example the generator is with a trap and someone can help by throwing a knife from the other side of the map to deactivate the trap.
@@BabyGrinch23 yeah, I can see how the devs would think that would help. But, like you pointed out. It would be awful and force the skill to only be used on objectives. I really hope they don't go down thay route.
As with any exploit, it's down to the users not to be 'that guy'. We know it's there, but we don't have to use it. The more folks entertain this, the more you'll drive the game into the ground, and we'll have nothing. Use your heads, folks.
@@D_89 Then if that's true, they'll be the ones responsible for driving the game into the ground. People are morons. They complain the game is dead, when they're the ones breaking it with their actions. The irony is huge. I've not come across it once, thankfully, and I've been playing everyday since the DLC dropped, but I can't talk for others. Anyone who exploits or abuses game flaws, I just block, and move on to the next game. Job done.
@@Utoobzz you live and blessed life. Because I keep getting them. Lol. I don't even know how they can get to level 3 so fast. I've only been able to get a turn with him once. Bones I've played like 3 or 4 times.
@@D_89 Sorry you're seeing so many players do this. I can understand the frustration. I've had the luxury of using Wyatt many times, but I'm not that invested in him overall. I want to escape the right way and feel like I earned it, else there's no point playing. Shame others don't feel the same and just want to shortcut their way to some xp.
I never saw anyone complain about hands being able to immediately turn back every objective every 60 sec but as soon as a victim a similar treatment now it’s a problem stop bitching about everything as a family main
That is the stupidest take on this entire situation hands had and still does have a cool down he also needs to be at the obj to rip stall. All victims want are free easy wins and to teabag and piss off family and laugh about it. but when family plays the game the way it's meant to be played it's an issue. It's such an issue victims got hands nerfed and removed scout just because they couldn't stop crying about something that wasn't that big of an issue and still isnt. Yet there are still infinite loops victims can run broken door slam hit boxes that favor victims and all around broken characters like this. But yeah family is the problem
@ and I’ve seen people complain about every single victim perk to point that the devs make them useless in order to satisfy family mains and still get bullied with trash perks
THHAANNKK YYOOUUUU!!!! It’s SUPER hard playing a family where EVERYONE has a freaking trap!!! It’s balanced, Hands, LF, etc have been OP forever, bout time the victims have a chance now!
It took me 20 minutes in a prviate match... The games I played were all public against real players... It's very likely to happen, it's a competitive game that people want to win at. That's like saying people don't want to learn cs go line-ups. If they have a higher chance of winning, it's the sensible thing to do
Change idea. What if instead of instantly turning off objectives how about instead he resets a familys ability cooldown instead when he hits them with a knife
this would be better considering the fact!!!! TCM NEEDS to stop with the objective stuff for victims this game is alreay EXTREMLY! easy to escape and this tcm already has connie who can open doors up instantly and danny!!!!, on top of that alot of victims get perks to deal with traps 5 times for free with no bone scrap sooo and those traps usually guard objectives. sooo... i have no reason WHAT dumb tcm dev or person is thinking its a great idea to have victims just complete shut off objectives as well. i think some victims can shut up fuse box as well for a certain duration as well! yea this is already a huge reason why i just quit playing family! half the game already just doesn't feel playable.
One doesnt cancel out the other, nor does it make it right. That's a terrible way to balance a game out. Hands needs a nerf on his ripstall, Wyatt needs a nerf on this ability.
This doesn't need rework. Family has this ability, you work on a gen or car battery and all of a sudden it was back to its state when Hands put something on it. Why can't a Victim? The game is already Family sided. You're all pro-Family noobs whining because some single level 3 ability Wyatt will make their game miserable.
Ill say this again and again. Making another broken character to counter a broken character is an AWFUL way to balance games. That's why they lost so much of their main playerbase... Two wrongs don't make a right. Hands needs a nerf to his ripstall, and Wyatt needs a nerf to this abiility.
Rework lvl 3 ability and he shouldn't have infinite knives either! Thats just distgusting, all traps are fkng joke and want hear another joke? No stun immunity after grapple for knives. For someone who plays both sides this wants you to play only victims, take a break or leave the game
Why must this community break and abuse everything in the game then blame devs Thanks for making this video and adding a new abuse mechanism to irritate console players Please remove pc players from crossplay😂
@rishyrish today I already had a Wyatt and connie on Nancy's house, standing by the electric grid trying to hit gen with a knife.....they failed and died...but still it shows how easily these videos influence ppl. 🙄
Danny's ability with a sniper range and without the need to gather knowledge that can also stun family......
and infinite bomb squad without perk needed
LOVE IT 😊!!!!
p2w
Time to counter hands
So it's another case of "just kill him" as the counter play. Thanks devs....
I love how the ability level has the description “Throwing knives can be used to interact with elements” instead of saying “Can turn off generators/batteries/disable traps with a single knife with no cool down” How they thought this was a good idea is beyond me.
To be fair to family, bones have something similiar to this aswell related to blood. Either damage or just upgrading grandpa way too high.
Upgrading grandpa fast means nothing when a wyatt can rush objectives. Combo that with a danny to tamper ana for distracting and leland to simply exist and its gg@@estrelaplatinada6506
@@estrelaplatinada6506Bones is one of the most mid fam we’ve gotten in the game and I hate to say it cos I love Moseley…His bombs are so easily countered it’s insulting, and his Window/Barricade/Well perks might as well be considered self stun perks…Wyatt however breaks the game due to the fact that traps places on Batt and gen are completely useless seeing as he can turn it off from 15ft away.
They just thinking about the payday
@@thehorrorcounselors4747agree
“This guys’ so thirsty for me”
Well jeez I WONDER why?!?! 😅
Wanna know something else crazy? His knives ignore stun immunity from grapples. We tested with grapples and sneak attacks and it's only grapples. You just Choose Fight grapple and right as the stun is about to end you can throw the knife.
At this point its pretty clear that Gun has absolutely zero idea how to balance or test their ideas
very true! the maps still have some barricades that block upstairs and basement exit! objectives!!!! the family house is a good example there is a random spawn barricade that blocks the fuse box so if your hands with no barricade perk to destroy it or no leatherface on the team in a random solo Q, with an nancy and johnny you literally CANNOT turn off the fuse box LMAO!. YOU LITERALLY CANNOT TURN OFF AN OBJECTIVE cause no family member can get to it. TCM devs need to stop with the content and start fixing their game before people quit for good cause playing family atm 80% of the time doesn't feel fun and playing vs team victims it literally feels like they get cheats.
Ima be honest I don't think they care at this point lol
They definitely now, they always make op characters only at the start to sell more.
@@avrandlane2735 it’s so insane to me that they never once addressed, or even acknowledged that problem on Family house with fuse being capable of being literally impossible to defend, but god forbid two objectives are a little too close together, and easier to patrol for Family, Gun will move them two football fields away when Victims whine about it. They have a very clear favoritism towards Victims.
How many times u going to comment loser
Get ready for 3 months of this ☠️. I’m gonna take a break from TCM, I’m actually regretting purchasing the DLC… This might be a reoccurring issue with the Devs and their statements involving not doing hot fixes and kill switches is concerning.
Do you have any sources on them saying that? I remember back when the game came out they were getting into random fights on twitter with players 😂
@ i can’t remember where it was since it was a while back but i think i was the last stream they had when they where bombing everybody with negative news.
I remember watching a stream and one of the devs was acting like an absolute 😺, when he was asked about all the games problems. And instead of acknowledging, he got all sassy and defensive and was like: "Hur dur if you dont like it then dont buy it". well the problem was people already bought it and was tryna help making the game better. But unfortunately he was too dumb do recognize that and felt offended. Thats when I knew there was no hope for this game longterm. Wich is sad because I really like it but the devs keep messing shit up is so funny😂
Notice how each time they made a dumb op character everybody was like "It can't get much worse" only for them to prove otherwise? Danny was busted, then came even more busted Hands, and now after Hands we get this absolute Wyatt who makes both Hands and Danny look like perfectly balanced characters. Shit's so ridiculous you can make a meme with "Amateurs" meme template lol.
Two solutions:
1. Change the ability entirely. Can't affect objectives, only non-objective interactables like traps, chickens, etc.
2. Remove the wait time before being able to reset an objective as a Family member. This would speed up gameplay overall, and enable more insane things like Wyatt's 3 to be released without much issue; but it comes at the cost of less leniency when you finally do get an exit open as a Victim.
I think he should not interact with objects, the character was designed to be a protector, not an expert in machines like Dany.
It seems good to me that he is able to break traps infinitely as an upgrade to level 3 if he has the pick up his knife upgrade to level 2.
The objectives are unnecessary because no one talks about how useful it is to not need a knife or a perk to disarm traps.
Or just make it so that holding the ability makes the crosshair wiggle around just a little, making it impossible to line up cross map shots but still effective at close range
4. Rearrange the skill tree. Put Retrival and Interaction on 1st and 3rd column, so that cannot get them both.
5. Make knife not be able to reuse/retrieve if it disables gen/battery/trap.
6. Can only use knife as bone scrap (Interaction).
If it retains its ability to disble traps then it should consume the knife. Infinite bomb squad is still crazy especially when you consider it's faster than old bomb squad.
Wyatt is basically a buffed Danny when Danny used to be broken 😂
The people defending this are the same people that complain about hands, hands can’t instantly turn back on multiple objectives , theres a counter to hands and the counter is doing more than 1 objective but 0 counter to Wyatt just like how it was with Danny last December how can you defend something so ridiculous and people wonder why the victim queues are so long and the people that complain about hands, play hands and counter Wyatt if it’s just so easy right? Majority of people that complain don’t even play both sides just wait until more people level Wyatt to 3 how much of lobby simulator this game will be until a fix, this game is cooked if the devs can’t learn from past mistakes
They forget the game don't work if no one wants to play family
Family forget that not every Wyatt player is going to be a walking exploit. Leaving the game just buries it for everyone.
@@Utoobzzit's not a exploit. The simple fact you can throw your knife at the gen IS INTENDED. That is ABSURD
@@brachialtick6539 It's a user thing. I've got zero desire to be that cheap, but you'll always have folks that stoop that low online. Standard.
I'd be willing to bet that the Devs never did this ONCE whilst playing themselves. They simply didn't foresee trolls walking to the edge of maps, throwing knives like goons trying to exploit the game.
This game was designed to be played a very specific way, (Stealth, in their words) which 99% of the userbase doesn't follow. It's a sweat fest with typical online gaming mentalities = shortcut to win because my life is meaningless without my precious xp points.
I can't wait for Victims to start escaping before the opening Cutscenes even finish 😜
BTW, Guess The FAM can just put away all those Traps/Bombs/Poisons when playing against Wyatt then
you can break glasses with your knife too.
Yessssss
what for?
@@rhayelgameplays distractions
@@rhayelgameplaysLess damage when jumping through window
His ability is wild af 😭
2:52 that stare into my soul 🤣🤣🤣
That's not a human stare.
That's the stare of Family Players who just realised getting Gen done across the map is Real and it will haunt them in their dreams.
Lmao I was about to say the same thing
Saw a Video the other day. Generator had a Hitch Trap and A Hands trap on it. One Knife circumventing all of it... I liked this game... Now I don't want to play anymore... I don't..
Danny was bad enough. They complained about Hands Ripstall and it got a Nerf... and then Gun drops this.... I'm done!
Not everyone will play this way. It's only the usual generic sweat lords that'll embody this exploit.
Don't quit. For everyone that stops playing, you bury the game.
If anyone's being a dick, block them and move on to the next game.
I'm assuming ur talking about middi?
@xoChilledxo Content creators will showcase the flaw, that's to be expected. It's the folks who resort to using this as an active method every game that are the problem.
Why...did...you...put...so...many...dots😂
I like Wyatt’s ability it does need a nerf or rework to balance it but I like the options it has for example you can snipe and be careful with the family or be a huge distraction and gunsling knives like the magnificent seven or this … like I said it needs balancing but this one of the best thought out Abilities for victims right now
As a family main who's been taking a break I was actually excited for this update. Now not so much...
Oh boy. An ability with co cooldown, 3 charges, 50% chance to retain a charge on family hit, 100% on objective hit, which allows to stun like leland, turn things off instantly lile danny, disable traps instantly and stab grandpa without worrying about traps or patrolling family. Just. Wow.
AJ TRACKSTAR JULES BUILD: Ran Track, Second Wind, and Slippery! 50 e always! Awesome vid btw :)
This lvl 3 needs to be completely replaced but in his defense they need to buff the hotboxes of the knife it's frustrating seeing the cross hairs line up only to see the knife hit some weird map texture
lobby simulator meta inc
Been a hot min since I've seen one of ur vids, perfect as always, good to be back.
You can throw your knife at the window and it will break
No need when you can cross map😂
me when someone does something so outlandish i pull out the 2:53 reactiom
haha. that was so obviously, that somebody would try this out 😂.. that's hillarious. great video Jaymes
Ayyy somebody has to test the spaghetti code every now and then 😂
this is why no one plays family
Family DLC character: pretty much just a worse hitchhiker with 2/3 of their stats being completely bugged and any interesting mechanics locked behind perks, easily avoidable traps (just hold S when you hear one)
Victim DLC character: Amazing base stats, goated skill tree routes, can instantly do objectives like a weird offspring of connie and danny (without having to study anything)
Playing family was so miserable that they had to change the matchmaker in order to trap family members in lobbies 😂
Uh huh because hands doesn’t exist right?
@@vismattress5760hands is nerfed into the ground already, because victim players have 0 idea how to do double fuse plays or adapt and resort to crying instead. Please develop an actual opinion instead of saying “Duhhhh Hands” when someone points out how busted this game is
@vismattress5760 let's see... Wyatt Wipes knife... gen Dies. Hands Ripstalls Gen and has a long cooldown. Wyatt wipes second knife... Gens gone again... How exactly does Hands counter this?
And yet, the devs say they play test their game 😂 what a joke
23:21 it’s so funny how he walks into the house😭😭😭
AJaymes, you my sir, are CRACKED 😂
I'm intentionally not using that level 3 ability just to keep the game fun.
Thats what I do
The devs don’t play their own game, plain and simple. Never seen a group so disconnected from their product before, they probably already 90% done their next game they gonna abandon after ppl buy it.
They absolutely do, but unlike most generic folk, they don't play like sweaty try hards who think xp points will enrich their real lives. The game has issues, but users don't have to entertain the exploits. I use Wyatt and never pull this shit.
If folks can't game straight up, they shouldn't be gaming.
@@UtoobzzLook stop defending them everywhere with the worst argument I've heard. "Yeah it's bad but I don't do it so other people won't it's ok"
@brachialtick6539 Then add yourself to the list of people who just throw their toys out the pram, and leave, thus burying the game for good. You guys cut your noses off to spite your face.
It's not ideal, but deal with it. There's tons of things in the game I dislike, but why would I shun the entire thing, which is in general, a ton of fun, just because of a few shit people using questionable tactics? Press on, else with the 'I'm leaving' mentality, you all kill the game for good.
@@Utoobzz
You talk like players don't look for the most optimistic ways to win in other games.
Literally every game has this happen, and it's the developers' job to keep the game fun, they are the ultimate judges of what is and isn't allowed because the game is theirs.
If they are the ones allowing this to happen then they are responsible.
@BabyGrinch23 Been playing since DLC launched. Not seen a single Wyatt do this.
If players are that shit they have to shortcut for a win, then that's their failing. The devs didn't make this ability with uber sweaty nerds in mind who scour every last corner of games for exploits. The game is supposed to be played in a certain manner, but users, as always, fuck it up.
Just because it's there, doesn't mean you should use it.
Community needs to be better than that.
Aj creating killer drama, no one would think a victim escaped that fast, I think everyone thinks - "god damn it, we have a noob killer that turned off the gen" or give up - "we have a cheater in the lobby, gg"
i dont know, i like being able to throw the knife across the map and hitting the generator. skill throw. id make it so if the generator is trapped by Hands that it doesnt turn off the generator (the trap takes the hit and is undone instead of the generator turning off) possibly make the generator harder than a trapped generator as survivor to turn off if hit with a trap on it, and make it easier for a killer to turn it back on if hit by knife in general. oh and id correlate the amount of progress done to turn off the generator to the distance at which you throw the knife making longer distance shots better and not rewarding close shots. and make the hitbox for knife very specific
Wanna know something even worse? You don't need Bomb Squad. The throwing knife will disable any trap it hits, and from what I've seen, it will disable Hands' trap AND the equipment it's on with the same hit.
Edit: Also, hitchhiker trap? knife it, retrieve knife. Nancy trap? Knife it, retrieve knife. Hands trap on a gate? Knife it, retrieve knife.
7:28
“I can’t believe they’re trying to do their job and stop me from turning everything off and winning the game 😂🤣🤣😆😆😆😆😆”
This is insane
Brooooooo✊ 15:53 truly goated tcm creator lmao
They should make it so you have to be within a certain range of the generator for the throwing knife to deactivate it.
Tbh I think they gone make us wait a little as they should cuz hands was op for WEEKS and family didn’t say shit now they get a lil taste of their own medicine 💀
Naaaa that’s actually game breaking I love your videos Ajaymes keep up the good work ❤
Ok I’m a victim player and I love Wyatt but at the same time, Danny should be the only one who should be able to turn off Gen instantly or atleast make it so there’s only a 25% chance the knife actually turns it off
Hands is gonna be a must if the family wants to stand a change againts this gye.
Is there not an AJaymes discord?
This is funny as heck… I would’ve thought it was a hacker 😂😂😂
Lmao I hate Wyatt’s. I went up against one who popped a lock then he looped me by the generator which he then throws a knife at the generator then ran out the door 😊
game developer thought 🤔 why walk to a generator when someone could throw 🔪….🎯”it out 💡….
I haven't played since hands released and now we have cod crossmaps
😂
If you have interactions, you don't need bomb squad
you do against hh traps because the registration is VERY scuffed.
Is it me or did the buff the dashing movement speed cuz it seems faster then before idk if I’m like tripping but yeah😹
I haven't got the chance to experience his lvl 3 yet 😢. All the lobbies are bugged at the moment. Hard to find one hard to load in.
It's on purpose. P2W absolutely on purpose, right before the holidays.
I have a blast playing this game! 😁
Ain't no way this game is sooo cooked 💀🙏
And on top of it all... bones is broken for family smh wow
The only consistency in this game , is the inconsistency
AJames did you know you can break the windows with wyatt's knife's mabey this could be a good way too make them mad when they see that the gen turned off Infront of them
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it was always hard to play against coordinated teams, they are out in 2 minutes even without Wyatt.
Same as Coordinated Family. Basement rush with a top squad = 2 minute 4k.
@Utoobzz exactly, i am not even mad when i lose against such teams. I am really impressed of how well they pull it off.
@tomidorel1776 Absolutely. Credit to them for being able to do so, so rapidly.
@tomidorel1776 Absolutely. Credit to them for being able to do so, so rapidly.
@tomidorel1776 Absolutely. Credit to them for being able to do so, so rapidly.
You can bypass bones boms if you crouch walk
Lol poor Sissy @ 11:43 😂
Nah Wyatt Finna Break The Whole Game 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
“They’re so thirsty for me” brother they are trying to play the objective which believe it or not is to unalive the victims.
And how do victims escape brother, through objectives. Last time I checked there are no doors or significant objectives in the side garden😂 I'm fine with him chasing me inside the house, there's significance to that.
They need to nerf this. Like maybe give the knife has a certain range or it can't be collected after shutting off objectives. I don't really have any ideas how to fix this but, doesn't matter either way it's just a no win either way.
Hands' ripstall is probably totally fine and doesn't have any problem, right?
Is it a bad idea for both sides to not know who there facing?So things cant be easily countered?RNG vs RNG
Release broken new content to drum up interest and or sales. Nerf broken content later to "balance" it with the rest of the game after sales and or interest recedes. It's rather formulaic stuff anymore. I wouldn't worry about it.
This is this I’m subscribed WITH notifications on lol.
It's exactly like Danny, pretty mid early on but once you get lvl 3 as with danny's instant study it brakes the game
I thought the knives also disabled traps, so no need for bomb squad?
I like how once a victim come out everyone complains about their ability but nothing about family and the fact that hands is still broken. , god sometimes I hate seeing your stuff on my page
meanwhile family gets another useless character!!!! BONES IS COMPLETE TRASH! bombs take like a couple of seconds to explode giving anyone with an average brain plenty of time to escape!!!!! you just run by the bombs and nothing happens to the victim! if anything the bombs are more likely to hurt bones or another family member in chase LMAO!!!! due to the detonation issue, the family is more likly to get stun by the bomb or forced to stop due to the explosion about to occur!!!!, on top of that bones has an endurance and strength issue atm both are stuck at default and not working properly!, bones is pretty much useless.
anyone know if the TCM DEVS have brain cells and the knife throw doesn't put the generator on cd! as well, cause family still has to run over there and take time to turn the generator back on which takes a decent amount of time as well, when the wyatt can just almost instant turn it off at a range even without being all the way across the map you can still turn it off at range, im just wonder if TCM devs used any common sense to realize the victim is ALREADY saving huge amount of time not having to kick the gen. so that would also be extremely broken if wyatt also puts the generator on cd as well that family can't even touch it for a certain amount of time. i mean a good example is slaughterhouse HTF! you going to defend that generator? its literally right next to the gate. this is why i don't even care to play family anymore the game is extremely busted and favors victims. family can't even chase unless you have chase perks!!!! so that alone is already a huge issue in balance since most barricades are already a free escape!, why not make it so barricades damage victims a little bit due to them having barbwired, you get a free escape but you take a little bit of damage each time you use a barricade.
another issue is crawl SPACES wtf is the point of closing them????, family kicks the crawl space right in front of me and i have plenty of time to open the crawl space before they can even reach the other side LMAO!!!!, at least make it so crawl spaces can be jammed for like 2 seconds and victims can't open them, if a family member kicked it down recently???.
Play Test? Gun? That would take time and cost money. Far easier to just release untested content and get the paying public to test it.
As for this, there's no way they'll make any changes whilst Wyatt is still new and making money (no doubt more money as people learn how OP he is). It'll be February before its "under investigation", then a few months down the line they'll nerf something of his that has no impact on him at all. His knives turn off objectives from a great distance, okay we'll remove bomb squad from his skill tree. Typical.
“This isn’t fair for family mains” I mean yeah but y’all do nothing to prevent stuff like this with chasing 1 player/ chasing 1 player in the basement in the first 60-90 secs. Lmao. Y’all crying about a broken ability yet y’all be so kill hungry in games that even without Wyatt y’all still let a person like me escape in 3 minutes because 2 of y’all are chasing 1 of my teammates in the basement. Make that make sense before we complain about anything..
If I was a TCM developer... I would Rework the level 3 to be more beneficial for your health, upon successful hit on a family.
yea not really smart by TCM devs anyways! clearly no brain cells i mean lets take like a solid good 60seconds to think about balance!, the escape time for victims can be easily 2mins? on top of connie and danny! with victims also getting an trap remove perk up to 5times for traps without needing bonescrap. that alone is alot to bypass objectives real fast!!. they need to put some of these TCM DEVS on janitor duty cause they're clearly not thinking very well.
They would cry about that too
It's not even the throwing from that distance that's a problem, turning off objectives AT A DISTANCE is already way too much and needs to be patched out asap
Why anybody plays this game is beyond me. I quit once they released Danny. And this looks even more silly
Make it just disappear after a certain range
The range isnt the issue tho, instantly doing objectives is...
ridiculous if he can throw knife from long range. this need to be fixed
All the hands mains crying in the comments 😂😂😂😂😂
Devs cooking up the most op or annoying dlc characters known to man 😅
And they wonder why they lose players daily then content creators show more broken ways to use these abilities no offense btw AJ But it's just ignorant the people the can play this game everyday and not feel like jumping out of airplane I commend you
Ay none taken. I just post this because it shouldn't be in the game, and posting creates controversy which the developers can't ignore.
@ no ofc I mean if they let you do stuff like that do it by all means it’s just gun allowed stuff like that for too long and it’s become a problem in the long run
Is it just me or are the servers so godamn laggy right now?
Crazy!
I feel like ballancing his 3rd would be tough.
A fix I could see would be that instead of deactivating the object, it would instead make the object be disabled at max efficency.
It would mesh well with Wyatt as he already has middling proficiency, so his knife throw could make up for it instead.
I don't think it's that difficult, people forgot to mention that in addition to objectives he can destroy traps/kill chickens, that in itself is already quite powerful, he doesn't need to interact with objects.
For example he could throw his knife at a generator with a trap, deactivate the trap that moment and be able to kick it.
@BabyGrinch23 That could work.
Though that may leave a bad taste in some players' mouths.
Many players do know that the knives can also interact with traps, grandpa, chickens, and whathaveyou.
Players will however always choose the option that is most beneficial. And that most beneficial is how it disables those objectives.
I've never liked the nerfing strategy of cutting content or removing/downgrading features. If you take away the shiny from the playerbase, they will feel like they got punished for using it.
If they added a twist or gave something else to distract or make good on the removal, then players are more accepting of change.
That's just my opinion, I'm just a fool on the internet.
@@LocktheRed
I will tell you what they are going to do, according to the responses they have given to the criticisms.
It seems that they will move the level two upgrades that allow you to recover your knives, to me it seems stupid because if they do that, disarming traps with knives will be useless, no one is going to waste a knife to disarm the traps, they are only going to use them for the objectives and that's it.
And if they put invisible barriers to not be able to hit the targets, it would also be a bad idea because it can be fun if someone is already outside but for example the generator is with a trap and someone can help by throwing a knife from the other side of the map to deactivate the trap.
@@BabyGrinch23 yeah, I can see how the devs would think that would help.
But, like you pointed out. It would be awful and force the skill to only be used on objectives.
I really hope they don't go down thay route.
As with any exploit, it's down to the users not to be 'that guy'. We know it's there, but we don't have to use it.
The more folks entertain this, the more you'll drive the game into the ground, and we'll have nothing.
Use your heads, folks.
99% of players are "that guy" 😂 I've already had multiple Wyatts do this. Some successfully.
@@D_89 Then if that's true, they'll be the ones responsible for driving the game into the ground. People are morons. They complain the game is dead, when they're the ones breaking it with their actions. The irony is huge.
I've not come across it once, thankfully, and I've been playing everyday since the DLC dropped, but I can't talk for others.
Anyone who exploits or abuses game flaws, I just block, and move on to the next game. Job done.
@@Utoobzz you live and blessed life. Because I keep getting them. Lol. I don't even know how they can get to level 3 so fast. I've only been able to get a turn with him once. Bones I've played like 3 or 4 times.
@@D_89 Sorry you're seeing so many players do this. I can understand the frustration.
I've had the luxury of using Wyatt many times, but I'm not that invested in him overall.
I want to escape the right way and feel like I earned it, else there's no point playing. Shame others don't feel the same and just want to shortcut their way to some xp.
Wyatt's lvl 3 ability needs nerf
I never saw anyone complain about hands being able to immediately turn back every objective every 60 sec but as soon as a victim a similar treatment now it’s a problem stop bitching about everything as a family main
Right. Wyatt is fine when Hands exists
He can cross map the fucking generator and battery that shit ain't okay atleast hands had to go there to turn it back on
That is the stupidest take on this entire situation hands had and still does have a cool down he also needs to be at the obj to rip stall. All victims want are free easy wins and to teabag and piss off family and laugh about it. but when family plays the game the way it's meant to be played it's an issue. It's such an issue victims got hands nerfed and removed scout just because they couldn't stop crying about something that wasn't that big of an issue and still isnt. Yet there are still infinite loops victims can run broken door slam hit boxes that favor victims and all around broken characters like this. But yeah family is the problem
I have exclusively seen people complain about Hands?? Just lying to seem like you have a point.
@ and I’ve seen people complain about every single victim perk to point that the devs make them useless in order to satisfy family mains and still get bullied with trash perks
THHAANNKK YYOOUUUU!!!! It’s SUPER hard playing a family where EVERYONE has a freaking trap!!!
It’s balanced, Hands, LF, etc have been OP forever, bout time the victims have a chance now!
All this you're doing in a private match with a lot of minutes to try. It's not likely to happen
It took me 20 minutes in a prviate match... The games I played were all public against real players... It's very likely to happen, it's a competitive game that people want to win at. That's like saying people don't want to learn cs go line-ups. If they have a higher chance of winning, it's the sensible thing to do
Change idea. What if instead of instantly turning off objectives how about instead he resets a familys ability cooldown instead when he hits them with a knife
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this would be better considering the fact!!!! TCM NEEDS to stop with the objective stuff for victims this game is alreay EXTREMLY! easy to escape and this tcm already has connie who can open doors up instantly and danny!!!!, on top of that alot of victims get perks to deal with traps 5 times for free with no bone scrap sooo and those traps usually guard objectives. sooo... i have no reason WHAT dumb tcm dev or person is thinking its a great idea to have victims just complete shut off objectives as well. i think some victims can shut up fuse box as well for a certain duration as well! yea this is already a huge reason why i just quit playing family! half the game already just doesn't feel playable.
no diff than hands ability its not fair either so its balanced
One doesnt cancel out the other, nor does it make it right. That's a terrible way to balance a game out. Hands needs a nerf on his ripstall, Wyatt needs a nerf on this ability.
This doesn't need rework. Family has this ability, you work on a gen or car battery and all of a sudden it was back to its state when Hands put something on it. Why can't a Victim? The game is already Family sided. You're all pro-Family noobs whining because some single level 3 ability Wyatt will make their game miserable.
Ill say this again and again. Making another broken character to counter a broken character is an AWFUL way to balance games. That's why they lost so much of their main playerbase... Two wrongs don't make a right. Hands needs a nerf to his ripstall, and Wyatt needs a nerf to this abiility.
Cod knife throwing
the devs cant stop making the game worse and worse
Bones' bombs are so ass. I'm sad.
Is this valorant
Reskinned
Rework lvl 3 ability and he shouldn't have infinite knives either! Thats just distgusting, all traps are fkng joke and want hear another joke? No stun immunity after grapple for knives. For someone who plays both sides this wants you to play only victims, take a break or leave the game
And if wyatt run choose fight with middle lvl 3 ability you have one unplayable family for 12 seconds, one must go too
Number 5
Why must this community break and abuse everything in the game then blame devs
Thanks for making this video and adding a new abuse mechanism to irritate console players
Please remove pc players from crossplay😂
Exactly 💯
@ everytime we get something good here comes these OP BUILD, NEW META or channels like this where he tells the community to try this like wtf
@rishyrish today I already had a Wyatt and connie on Nancy's house, standing by the electric grid trying to hit gen with a knife.....they failed and died...but still it shows how easily these videos influence ppl. 🙄