Man... Context was so ignored in this discussion. There is not a single person alive that watched the 2018 AFC Championship game (Mahomes 1st season and Brady's 20th) that believe if the Chiefs won the toss, they lose that game. The superbowl Mahomes had 3 TDs dropped. No offensive line help and Mahomes scrambled for almost 500 yards behind the line of scrimmage. Brady is Bill Russell. Pat is Jordan. Mahomes is the best, Brady is the most accomplished.
@thebteampod Lol. I don't know about 8-10, but if there was ANYONE that could do it, I would believe Pat could pull it off. But I don't think he needs 7. I think he needs 5. Tho if they 3 peat the argument is over. I say 5 because prior to Brady, Montana was the Goat. So you gotta get past him. But with the way Mahomes has done it as THE GUY and the driving force plus the mark he has left on the game in terms of how it is played. He is the Greatest we have ever seen. He's it. We got to have this blessing and I am all for it. I was not a fan of the team in the 90s and early 2000s. My wife was tho. 3rd Generation Chiefs fan. However I was a huge College fan and I saw Mahomes play LSU in the Texas bowl as an LSU fan. After that game I started following Mahomes. I lost my mind when they drafted him. Been watching every game ever since.
@@rashidcoletraincoleman3013 it really is crazy how he has changed the game! Agree that he doesn’t need more than 5, but do think he could run the table! Great break down and lucky that you are a chiefs fan! Wish we were haha
@thebteampod My love of Joe Burrow (for what he did for LSU) gets tested during the Bengals/Chiefs games and I love Josh Allen and CJ Stroud. I'm really excited for QB play in the league, just wish it wasn't quite so heavy on the AFC side. But hey, if you're the best... It won't matter who they put in front of you. I am STOKED for this season with everything coming out of training camp from the beat reporters. I legit think Mahomes is going scorched Earth this year. Someone that competitive KNOWING his side of the ball was the problem and he had his worse statistical season of his career. Yea... he wants to make a point. And they actually gave him an offense full of weapons and what will be easily a top 10 defense. So here for it!!! I appreciate the discussion yall. 🤗
We get it, teal-headphones guy is sick of seeing Mahomes win….he wants to throw ice on what is happening before everyone’s eyes. Mahomes has already outplayed Brady in first 6 years starting. Look at stats. Mahomes is doing this with mid defense most of those years, a year or two of bad Oline, and horrible receiving group this year. He’s taking that GOAT title very soon.
Just remember Brady woulda had a 3 int game and loss but dee ford lined up off side and Mahomes did beat him in regular season twice with bucs and at least once with pats
David we really gotta get all our thoughts out in one message next time but love the conversation you are starting. Looking back on it, probably right, and Muller has actually said he is out on Brady after seeing that roast he couldn't handle!
Brady beat Mahomes in the playoffs in overtime…before the rules changed. Brady beat the Falcons in overtime having to compete back…sooo what are you talking about?
Bro is just mad his 40 whiners pick lost 😂 If you’re going to care so much about Super Bowl wins then you need to also factor Super Bowl mvps. Did the voters believe in REAL time that you were the reason why your team won the Super Bowl…. Tom Brady (22 seasons) = 5 SB MVPs Mahomes (6 seasons) = 3 SB MVPs Mahomes is currently crushing Brady’s pace
Chiefs would have won in 2023-24 had Toney lined up onsides too though. don’t know that that is a fair argument in this case. Will give you that mahomes is a better qb than Brady 100%, completely changed the position!
@@thebteampod i think tb12 is still the goat. But if mahomes gets 1 or 2 more than it's over. Lbj will never enter my top 5 ever. No way. Not after 2011 dallas. Yo can lose. No problem. But go down fighting like pat15 vs bucs, like tb12 vs broncos. Lbj lose like.....a i dont want to say
Pat was about as close as you can get to beating Tom in the playoffs their first game. Had that happened, they would be tied and it wouldn’t be mentioned. Instead, he’s saying the 2-0 record means he literally has to have 1 more Super Bowl? The dude is gonna obliterate all of Brady’s records and Brady Stan’s will never give up.
Don’t forget rushing yards by mahomes, nobody will ever agree on it, Im a chiefs fan, every year he’s started he’s made it to the afc championship game, he probably would have made it his rookie year too if he was the starter day 1, the afc championship game against Brady they had them beat buy gave it away, but that’s football, the superbowl against the buccaneers he ran about 5 miles to avoid getting hit, Brady winning that game in my mind solidified him as the greatest player in football history, mahomes isn’t the best ever yet but I think the reason some people act like you’re a fool for even considering it is because he hasn’t played long enough yet, but if you think about it the argument their using is kinda goes against their point, what if next year they win again, don’t make it back to the superbowl the next year, and win 2 more in a row and he says hey I don’t have to prove anything to anyone anymore, and he retires because he seems like a guy that would have a lot interests outside of sports, that would put him at 32 with 6 superbowl wins in 8 years as a starter, Brady would have 7 superbowl championships in 22 years as a starter, that would mean Brady would have 14 more years to get it done, but mahomes might never win again so who knows, some people still say it’s Montana, I can’t say their wrong, different time period, it’s a team sport, I 100% know from 1996 to when he got caught making deposits where he wasn’t supposed to be making said deposits, Tiger Woods was the greatest player head and shoulders above everyone else, the chiefs stunk this year but got in the playoffs and a 4 game run and mahomes was cold as ice when he needed to be, the overtime drive where the ball was at like the 49ers 46 yard line and it was 3rd down and he scrambled up the middle for like 22 yards, if you ever watch a Tyson fight between 86-90 some opponents would get hit not good enough to knock them out but you could see the opponent preparing to get knocked the f out, thats what the 49ers looked after that scramble, im babbling at this, good podcast
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So is Eli the goat he whupped Brady twice,brady lost to Tannihil in playoffs
And a backup QB in Foles,the guy on the right is a moron,lol
Honestly probably if you put it in one of those "they beat them and they beat them and they beat them lists"
Man... Context was so ignored in this discussion.
There is not a single person alive that watched the 2018 AFC Championship game (Mahomes 1st season and Brady's 20th) that believe if the Chiefs won the toss, they lose that game.
The superbowl Mahomes had 3 TDs dropped. No offensive line help and Mahomes scrambled for almost 500 yards behind the line of scrimmage.
Brady is Bill Russell. Pat is Jordan.
Mahomes is the best, Brady is the most accomplished.
You need a podcast, not these dudes
Rude. But we do all agree that Mahomes will have 8-10 SB's and will be the undisputed GOAT correct?
@thebteampod Lol. I don't know about 8-10, but if there was ANYONE that could do it, I would believe Pat could pull it off. But I don't think he needs 7. I think he needs 5. Tho if they 3 peat the argument is over. I say 5 because prior to Brady, Montana was the Goat. So you gotta get past him. But with the way Mahomes has done it as THE GUY and the driving force plus the mark he has left on the game in terms of how it is played. He is the Greatest we have ever seen. He's it. We got to have this blessing and I am all for it. I was not a fan of the team in the 90s and early 2000s. My wife was tho. 3rd Generation Chiefs fan. However I was a huge College fan and I saw Mahomes play LSU in the Texas bowl as an LSU fan. After that game I started following Mahomes. I lost my mind when they drafted him. Been watching every game ever since.
@@rashidcoletraincoleman3013 it really is crazy how he has changed the game! Agree that he doesn’t need more than 5, but do think he could run the table! Great break down and lucky that you are a chiefs fan! Wish we were haha
@thebteampod My love of Joe Burrow (for what he did for LSU) gets tested during the Bengals/Chiefs games and I love Josh Allen and CJ Stroud. I'm really excited for QB play in the league, just wish it wasn't quite so heavy on the AFC side. But hey, if you're the best... It won't matter who they put in front of you. I am STOKED for this season with everything coming out of training camp from the beat reporters. I legit think Mahomes is going scorched Earth this year. Someone that competitive KNOWING his side of the ball was the problem and he had his worse statistical season of his career. Yea... he wants to make a point. And they actually gave him an offense full of weapons and what will be easily a top 10 defense. So here for it!!! I appreciate the discussion yall. 🤗
We get it, teal-headphones guy is sick of seeing Mahomes win….he wants to throw ice on what is happening before everyone’s eyes. Mahomes has already outplayed Brady in first 6 years starting. Look at stats. Mahomes is doing this with mid defense most of those years, a year or two of bad Oline, and horrible receiving group this year. He’s taking that GOAT title very soon.
Yeah he has come around- go watch our most recent episode!
Didn’t Brady lose to nick foles and Eli
twice to Eli
Brady lost to Eli TWICE & A backup QB and the cheating can't be over looked.Mahomes is already the goat!
True! Mahomes will end up with 8-10 SB's Minimum...also Brady clearly can't take a joke at his own roast so no shot he is our GOAT
LOL, some Eli Manning is better than Brady.
Just remember Brady woulda had a 3 int game and loss but dee ford lined up off side and Mahomes did beat him in regular season twice with bucs and at least once with pats
David we really gotta get all our thoughts out in one message next time but love the conversation you are starting. Looking back on it, probably right, and Muller has actually said he is out on Brady after seeing that roast he couldn't handle!
Brady beat Mahomes in the playoffs in overtime…before the rules changed. Brady beat the Falcons in overtime having to compete back…sooo what are you talking about?
yes, but brady also lost two Superbowls to Eli Manning and one to Nick Foles. Those two aren't as good as mahomes.
Bro is just mad his 40 whiners pick lost 😂
If you’re going to care so much about Super Bowl wins then you need to also factor Super Bowl mvps. Did the voters believe in REAL time that you were the reason why your team won the Super Bowl….
Tom Brady (22 seasons) = 5 SB MVPs
Mahomes (6 seasons) = 3 SB MVPs
Mahomes is currently crushing Brady’s pace
Makes a whole lot of sense to us- Mahomes is gonna end up with 8-10 watch
Brady can't come back to ANY team and them be a favorite. The majority of Brady Superbowl wins came with a Top 10 Defense helping him out.
And btw. NOBODY who is worth his salt says LBJ is the goat. Lbj is top 7-9 alltime. He os not worthy tp be in top 5 after 2011 dallas
From Muller- thank you!
In 2018 Brady would have lost to Mahomes if Dee Ford lined up on sides
Chiefs would have won in 2023-24 had Toney lined up onsides too though. don’t know that that is a fair argument in this case. Will give you that mahomes is a better qb than Brady 100%, completely changed the position!
Eli is goat. He beat tb12 twice. In the superbowl. ELI goat. (See how ridiculous i sound)
Honestly don’t hate the take. Love where the head is at. Now are you a Mahomes over Brady? MJ over LeBron?
@@thebteampod i think tb12 is still the goat. But if mahomes gets 1 or 2 more than it's over. Lbj will never enter my top 5 ever. No way. Not after 2011 dallas. Yo can lose. No problem. But go down fighting like pat15 vs bucs, like tb12 vs broncos. Lbj lose like.....a i dont want to say
@@chiecheung25mahomes with 5 is the goat..Jordan mahomes,,Brady Russel
Spags beat Brady twice in the SB to give Eli those rings
ELI MANNING is the Goat!
Dude with hat has ro figure in all the Pats cheating,Brady was shot last year,Baker played better with worse team then Brady had last year.
Pat was about as close as you can get to beating Tom in the playoffs their first game. Had that happened, they would be tied and it wouldn’t be mentioned. Instead, he’s saying the 2-0 record means he literally has to have 1 more Super Bowl? The dude is gonna obliterate all of Brady’s records and Brady Stan’s will never give up.
Absolutely- watch our QB Tiers episode from last week! Muller comes around and joins the Mahomes train finally
People need to stop discounting Joe Montana
@@damiactivates great shout!
Don’t forget rushing yards by mahomes, nobody will ever agree on it, Im a chiefs fan, every year he’s started he’s made it to the afc championship game, he probably would have made it his rookie year too if he was the starter day 1, the afc championship game against Brady they had them beat buy gave it away, but that’s football, the superbowl against the buccaneers he ran about 5 miles to avoid getting hit, Brady winning that game in my mind solidified him as the greatest player in football history, mahomes isn’t the best ever yet but I think the reason some people act like you’re a fool for even considering it is because he hasn’t played long enough yet, but if you think about it the argument their using is kinda goes against their point, what if next year they win again, don’t make it back to the superbowl the next year, and win 2 more in a row and he says hey I don’t have to prove anything to anyone anymore, and he retires because he seems like a guy that would have a lot interests outside of sports, that would put him at 32 with 6 superbowl wins in 8 years as a starter, Brady would have 7 superbowl championships in 22 years as a starter, that would mean Brady would have 14 more years to get it done, but mahomes might never win again so who knows, some people still say it’s Montana, I can’t say their wrong, different time period, it’s a team sport, I 100% know from 1996 to when he got caught making deposits where he wasn’t supposed to be making said deposits, Tiger Woods was the greatest player head and shoulders above everyone else, the chiefs stunk this year but got in the playoffs and a 4 game run and mahomes was cold as ice when he needed to be, the overtime drive where the ball was at like the 49ers 46 yard line and it was 3rd down and he scrambled up the middle for like 22 yards, if you ever watch a Tyson fight between 86-90 some opponents would get hit not good enough to knock them out but you could see the opponent preparing to get knocked the f out, thats what the 49ers looked after that scramble, im babbling at this, good podcast
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